Idle No More, and the reliable Old Fart

Emma Teitel takes on the FAIPOFS. Kelly McParland, Barbara Kay and Margaret Wente, she’s talking to you

by Emma Teitel

CP/Fred Chartrand

In the National Post yesterday, Kelly McParland coined a new term for the progressive social movements of our time: the Arab Spring, Occupy and Idle No More.

“The great International anti-The Man movement,” is what he likes to call them — a catch-all phrase for bacchanals of smelly young people clutching placards, weighed down by the billion Che Guevara pins on their canvas bags, the Libyans, Egyptians, Tunisians and Syrians who died brutally for democracy—and now—the aboriginal Canadians who block roadways to protest treaty violations. Who knew they had so much in common?

I would like to coin my own term for people like McParland, and Barbara Kay, and Margaret Wente, pundits who defecate rhetorically on every liberal protest movement that makes the nightly news. My term is easier to remember.

I like to call these people FAIPOFS—For all Intents and Purposes, Old Farts. Not necessarily physically old, that is (I’m not ageist), just unfathomable to fathom as young: like Ms. Trunchbull in Roald Dahl’s Matilda, who admits she doesn’t care for children because she never was one. You try to picture the FAIPOFS young at heart, at a party, maybe even sitting friendless in a high school cafeteria, but you can’t. Because unless their long-form birth certificates verify otherwise, it’s almost certain they exited the womb fully grown, hurling insults at shiftless grad students. Or in Wente’s case, imaginary shiftless grad students.

Yesterday’s star FAIPOF, Kelly McParland, actually doesn’t mind the original sentiment behind Idle No More, likely because it would have remained idle without the radicalism, road blockades and hunger strikes clogging news feeds every hour. Below, he writes approvingly of the original movement’s website.

“The photo section is like a suburban family’s Facebook page, with shots [of] kids and nature, and what looks like someone’s vacation snapshot from Beijing. It’s pretty harmless and well-meaning. But it’s been largely co-opted by the great international anti-The Man movement.”

That McParland wouldn’t be aware of the website’s existence without the great anti-The Man movement seems lost on him entirely. And that is—to everyone who looks at Theresa Spence’s tent with annoyed bewilderment—precisely the point.

Like clockwork, every time people take to the streets or roads or parks with a cause, they are celebrated and disdained. The Toronto Star says good for them, the National Post says get a life, and the Globe and Mail says something I can’t remember.

What matters though, is that right or wrong these people are seen and heard. If they stayed home, or as every FAIPOF suggested—went through the appropriate channels to voice their concerns—we wouldn’t know their names or their grievances. Now we do.

Now we can’t avoid them. Now, some of my friends, most of whom have never paid attention to aboriginal affairs, are talking about Idle No More. My extended family, at our weekly Friday night Shabbat dinner, is talking about Idle No More. Most of them (one FAIPOF in particular, you know who you are) don’t particularly like the movement, but the fact remains that without it, we would not have replaced our Israel-Palestine debates with discussions on First Nations policy—and thank God we did, because the Israel thing was getting really old.

Chances are, my friends and family will not heed the call of Chief Spence (they are still, as far as I tell, very much idle), but at least they’ve heard it loud and clear. At least they can pronounce Attawapiskat.

As for the old farts, they’ll fart on until the end of time, content, I’d imagine, with the recent discovery that two thirds of Canadians think “Canada’s Aboriginal peoples receive too much support from Canadian taxpayers,” and the Aboriginal peoples themselves will be content that we’re thinking of them at all.

 




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  1. Great work, Teitel. We disagree on one small point: I don’t think Aboriginal people will content themselves merely to be thought of. Still, the thrust of this is dead right. I’m glad to have a term for the FAIPOFS. I always wonder, as they dismiss every protest and roll their eyes at every effort to seek justice… where, exactly, do they think they would have stood on women’s emancipation, civil rights, the five-day work week? The answer of course is that they would not have stood, but sat—idle.

    • The idle protesting punks were indeed active in the civil rights movement, although a lot of grey heads got bashed with billy clubs. As far as women’s rights and the five-day work week go, those were strictly old fart efforts and could never have happened without their relationships – old farts to old farts – with governments.

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    • Another person who has no understanding of what has spawned the protests. FRom DRU:

      Among non-native Canadians, ignorance of treaty obligations is almost as widespread as the exercise of treaty rights. But attitudes go beyond ignorance. Through hard-hitting propaganda, imperceptible cues and everything in between, Canadians have been carefully taught to devalue Indigenous nationhood and culture.

      • OK, enlighten me.

        Don`t bother with the name-calling like the blogger, but tell me what the goal is of the protests, and be specific—-I`m tired of the generic complaints about the stolen land from centuries ago—if i want to hear that I will listen to my Irish neighbours complain about Oliver Cromwell.

        If it`s about money, tell me how much—if the 6 billion budget at Indian Affairs Ministry is not enough—tell me what should be the proper figure–10 billion —40 billion ? And tell us how these increased funds would be used by the bureaucrats, and consultants, and Chiefs to better the life of those on the Reserves.

        And if you want the whole country back in the hands of Natives, then explain to us how you will then support the 32 million non-Natives.

        • It is about land . It is as teh blogger says about 2 very different understandings of treaties: I will quote from DRU again:

          A recent example was the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples, a sort of $50 million blue-ribbon panel which produced a five volume report and hundreds of recommendations in 1996. In their summary of findings, the commission wrote:

          Canadians need to understand that Aboriginal peoples are nations. That is, they are political and cultural groups with values and lifeways distinct from those of other Canadians. They lived as nations – highly centralized, loosely federated, or small and clan-based – for thousands of years before the arrival of Europeans. As nations, they forged trade and military alliances among themselves and with the new arrivals. To this day, Aboriginal people’s sense of confidence and well-being as individuals remains tied to the strength of their nations. Only as members of restored nations can they reach their potential in the twenty-first century.

          http://www.mediacoop.ca/blog/dru/15600
          Money is a big issue but only in teh context of over 600 unresolved land claims.If resource sharing were to be part of those settlements tahne less moneyw ould be needed because the reserves would receive compensation form resources on those lands. Where cities nd other structures have been developed tehn a monetary settlement would be expected.

          • I think you would get most Canadians to agree with the prospects of a self-sufficient Native community. If the billions of dollars that is poured into the INA Ministry were to be replaced by royalties or other income then that would not only be good for government expenditures but also for the overall well-being of the morale of Natives.
            But keep in mind this will only work if Aboriginal Peoples agree to be treated the same as any other group as far as land ownership taxes, income taxes, capital gain taxes, education costs, social services, etc.

            Personally, I think it will be easier to get Canadians onside then to introduce a modern, productive, and healthy lifestyle to many Native communities—-it will be difficult but not impossible—take a look at the achievements of many southern B.C. bands in the past 30 years.

          • Yes and those southern B.C. bands are exactly where land claims were achieved. As taht happens the expectationis that teh Inidan Act woudl be revised and eventually disappear and taxation would happen as teh bands achieved financial stability.

          • Then if writers like Teitel are serious about helping the Native community, and not just using this story as an excuse to bang her own drum, then she should be promoting these positive aspects rather then engaging in a peeing match with those who are questioning the doubtful antics of those who engage in counter-productive protests.

          • INM has at the very least raised awareness that there are unresolved issues. The Royal Commission was 1996 and zip happened between then and now except for the derailed Kelowna Accord.

          • INM has raised no issues. They’ve blockaded roads and rail and mumbled abstracts from the Omnibus bill to building a transformative society.

          • Most Canadains couldn’t pronounce Attawapiskat last year.

          • Yeah, and we all learned to pronounced Attawapiskat after their chief raised a big stink concerning the state of her reserve, not through INM. Then when the audit of said chief’s reserve was published, it looks like she could have done a fair bit to help her band but chooses to sit on an island starving herself, and that has nothing to do with INM either.

          • The Attawapiskat First Nation’s externally audited financial statements are online, go back to 2005, and have been up there long before Chief Spence began her strike or Idle No More was started. http://www.attawapiskat.org. What I didn’t see in them was any royalties paid directly by De Beers, which leads me to believe that our government is taking the rent I still presume De Beers is paying and then passing it over to the owners of the land while simultaneously convincing Canadians such as yourself that it is all taxpayer’s money. Of course, De Beers still pays taxes, but that isn’t mentioned, either. Further, the consultants and bureaucrats high-paying salaries are paid out of the monies allocated to the specific First Nation, so where they supposedly received 90 million, some of it was STILL skimmed off the top (still, as in we have been doing that for centuries now). Finally, the fact that you are tired of it does not negate the existence of the Royal Proclamation of 1763 or something, which is still in force and in fact was enshrined in our Constitution. Post finally, the only way to create a new deal between First Nations and Canada, is for the First Nations and Canada to have a series of negotiating meetings. Idle No More is demanding exactly that. It is the Government of Canada, sorry. It is the Harper Government who appears to want things to remain exactly as they are.

          • You can’t attach receipts to a web page. I heard the royalties from DeBeers go into a separate bank account not through the Feds. What about that huge stock portfolio Attawapiskat holds? How about the “consultant” who earns $850/day and is the boyfriend of Chief Spence? If Rob Ford had hired his wife as a special consultant, there would be howls of outrage from the Left. As for all your other excuses for forming Idle No More, why don’t you be honest and tell everyone it’s just another “get Harper” movement with the Council of Canadians?

          • Maybe so, it just struck me that the royalties from Rama are a line item, but De Beers is not. My understanding of Spence’s boyfriend is that he is the “co” in the “co-management”. You do understand that nearly everyone in a band is related to everyone else, right? It would be pretty hard to find employees if you can only employ people at arm’s length from the band council. Why don’t you be honest and realize, at least to yourself, that a remote northern Ontario First Nation cannot be compared to Canada’s largest city? And, while Kennedy makes $850/day, the other “co” makes $1,400/day. And apparently, doesn’t do anything since this expensive consultant hired by the government allowed Deloitte to find documentation missing. I actually don’t believe that myself (management letter is not an audit, an audit was independently done on these same years by a reputable firm who was satisfied with the documentation enough to render an opinion), but if it is true of the band, it is true of the government’s “co-manager” as well.

          • Kennedy is not a member of the band. As for your understanding of audits, Deloitte is a reputable auditor and audits most government offices. What they try to do is highlight process problems, and lack of receipts and lack of job descriptions were two that they picked up on. That covers the two “co’s” as you call them. They are suppose to be business managers but can’t keep a handle on the bookkeeping? That does not mean that anyone was cooking the books. They can’t even prove that without receipts or unidentified money transfers.

          • Wow 2Jenn, you are woefully uninformed, but from your last comment I assume you are a paid activist who is there strictly to defame the government.

          • 1. Land claims – 600 outstanding.
            2. Fasle Apology by PM…TRC in court to trya nd obtain documents.
            3. Education funding- frozen for many years and well below provincial oer student funding

          • Well you are the first person to itemize some things. Firstly, I don’t think the PM made a false apology, secondly the chiefs walked away from the education conference – after the government thought it had a deal. As for the 600 outstanding land claims, how many are genuine?

          • Can’t comment on 3 except the funding has actually dropped per capita since mid 90′s according to the Audtor General. 1 Most are still winding their way through the cumbersome process usd by teh govt. If they end up in the court eventually teh odds are pretty good as teh last 150+ have been in Native favour.
            If the apology was genuine, then wht is the govt refusing to release necessary recortds tro teh commission. They are currently in court and it appears the govt is just waiting things out until the commissions mandate ends.

          • Because there is a big difference between the governing party and the bureaucracy. You know the old saying “It doesn’t matter who you elect, you still get the government”? The bureaucracy has a mind of its own and very often when a politician attempts to interfere with the levers of government, they pay for it down the road. Watch a few episodes of “Yes, Minister” – an old BBC series. You’ll get the picture.

          • the derailed Kelowna Accord would have done nothing but piss away another $5 billion dollars. That’s why it was derailed. The present government is taking baby steps, but at least it’s doing something and hopefully now, the pace will pick up.

          • It will need to proced to the full walking stage quickly to help those of us in our 8th decade.

          • The fact that they live close to bigger centres and have access to more services makes a huge difference in their standard of living. Living in the far North where there is nothing and it costs a fortunes to provide any services is one of the problems. The Chiefs uncertain accountability is another problem. Land claims are not everything. Education is a big plus and it is the bands who are the most educated who are the most successful.

          • “Aboriginal peoples are nations.”

            This is bogus bilgewater taken out of the racist ideology of ‘indigenism’.

            Even the racist term ‘first nation’ was invented as a means to try to promote the absurdity that a reserve of some few hundred to a few thousand indians could somehow be the equivalent and equal in status to an actual country of over thirty million people.

            So I’ve stopped using the term even to refer to reserves, the only application to which ‘fn’ could rationally have been applied.

            Enhancing the pride, privilege, status, and power of the chiefs of these reserves by calling them ‘nations’ is not going to do anything to free the actual indians from the dependency relationship they have with the reserves or with the band council and chiefs under whose tutelage the unfortunates suffer.

          • Read the Supreme court’s rulings. Read the RCAP

          • You’re aguing with people who in some instances think the residential schools were just badly mismanaged, not actually abhorrent.

          • Jeez, you`re wrong again.

            Listen you are part of the problem. Instead of imagining the thoughts that others may have concerning this issue, try to come up with some actual solutions, and I don`t mean liberal solutions like throwing more money at it, or continuing to sit around the ” Table ” with the same empty words tossed around.

          • Contrary to your assertion i’ve made it perfectly clear where i think some of the solutions should flow from – implement and or negotiate from a position that the charter and SCoC has already stated exists for 30 years now, that FNs treaty and land claims put them in a special category. They don’t want handouts, the indian act or fee simple or anything else stuffed down their throats anymore. It’s not my place to say, or yours or your parties…at least not soley. Deal with them as co equals who are willing to share the wealth of this land. As for the specifics, that’s a matter of negotiation and entirely for them to decide.
            You criticize people like me for being paternalistic and part of the old problem,yet you and your tory minded buddies in govt see no irony in you forcing your agenda on them. It is you who are wrong right now. It isn’t me who’s saying this, it is a considerable part of the FN community itself. No matter Daddy govt knows best – it just happens to be your brand of paternalism right now.

          • “They don’t want handouts…”

            Handouts is exactly what is being demanded. All this talk of ‘sharing’ conveniently ignores the fact that any indian is able to obtain their fair share of resource by simply finding employment in a resource industry.

            The demand is for what Clarence Louie calls ‘rocking chair money’, unearned income flowing from other people’s work.

          • Wow! You actually believe what you wrote. That FNs have no claim to ownership of resources on their lands, claimed or otherwise? They have the right to work for wages, same as everyone else!
            I like chief Louie, individual members do need a friendly boot up the butt to earn their way. But you misrepresent his accomplishments. Nowhere has he stated that FNs are not entitled to fight for and develop their own resources.

          • Indian bands have full claim to all royalty revenues from resources on their own lands, and always have.

            What’s being claimed is revenues from resource wealth created by the investment and effort of others and on lands not belonging to the reserves.

          • Nice try. You completely ignore the reality of land claims. Come on, it is the 21 century you know. They have won every SCoC decision that has come down the pike on this stuff, and will continue to do so – unless Harper stacks the court.

          • Land claims have nothing to do with the royalties being paid on indian lands. And the vast majority of development is on land that has no land claim attached to it.

          • Now i know you simply don’t have a clue. Leave it out will you?

          • Anything they “won” is the result of a stacked court and goofy judges and everyone knows it.
            So don’t bother trying to pull that.

          • Sure…and you’re in a position to know i suppose!

          • On lands taht are subject to land claims because the original treaty area was taken by the province or the feds. For example teh Ojibway of Cape Croker were promise in writing by treaty taht if tehy moved to teh Bruce Pen. they would hav ethat land forever. Within 20 years they had been forced onto a small reserve.

          • so you truly believe that a million people can live off another group of people for the rest of times and that it is sustainable? What does that do for the pride of the people being supported? We see the damage now, why perpetuate it.

          • Your argument reeks of straw man. i’ve never said that, nether have FNs.

          • It’s worse than that! They will live as parasites off a society that is presently allowing millions of people from all over the world to co-exist under a system they have refused to participate in (unless payed) and is capable of paying the billions of dollars of tax payers money for their actual lack of evolvement!

            Their system (and they don’t have one) is so utterly self involved (entitlement of a race-based Don’t Touch Me) and provides for not a single other none (I’m so special) nationality. So lets see? Allow bloated self-involved tribe based pointlessness or free society (though not ideal) which allows us to move forward!

            What sickens me about the treaties is that it enables them to keep swindling us! For decencies sake, the cleaning lady in our building is straight out of the slums of Bangladesh and has to pay her hard earned money to those bums! Some in this world today would crawl on their hands and knees to be Canadian!

            In this one thought, I admit I’m a radical, BUT NOBODY OWNS THIS PLANET! I’m proud to be Canadian for the people from all around the world gathered here. Time to END THIS GREED AND EXTORTION!

          • Glynn keps showing up on Nat Post to speak Libertarianism and ignore reality. He never lets facts stand in his way.

          • Or racist cheap shots. I have noticed he starts to actually make an argument when he gets called on it. So maybe he’s just intellectually lazy – like a lot of people.

          • What are you going to do, sit back there forever like a fool ?

          • Both of those back up exactly what I’ve just posted, above. They are racist decisions and racist documents that seek to privilege indians, their reserves, and/or the chiefs that lead them.

            The Supreme Court even admits to extraordinary bias in its recommendations (commands, essentially) to lower courts to ensure that decisions be biased in favour of indians or of reserves.

          • If you disagree with theSupreme Court, y9ouare most welcome to mount a legal challenge.

          • That which is evil and wrong remains evil and wrong whether I have the money to oppose the evil or not.

          • Parliament enacts laws and teh courts uphold them,

          • Unfortunately, the Natives get their legal challenges paid by taxpayers. Us taxpayers, have to pay our own way. Therefore, most taxpayers cannot afford to mount challenges.

          • My father left the reserve when I was 5 and he paid income taxes and he paid for our dental, optometrists and other medical treatments. There are many native people who believe in self- reliance.

          • I do realize that. I was talking about Natives on reserves. I admire Natives in many ways. Their gentleness and optimism. I have known and have many part-Natives in my extended family and they are all upstanding citizens and I do realize the great degree of discrimination, specially in hiring practices. But I abhor the reserve system and I think the Indian Act is totally obsolete. A new deal needs to be negotiated, but in a peaceful way. Rights of ownership is a high priority, so is accountability.

          • So were the clans of Scotland. They realized they had to progress into the eighteenth century and that was three centuries ago.

          • Too bad the clans did not have treaties with the Sassenach.

          • I believe if resource sharing were done, Feds/Provinces would not suffer losses because they take such a small share of the profits from Big Oil as it is. Big Oil, or diamonds or gold, whichever, should be paying more for the use of Canadian land.

            De Beers pays a pittance to the reserves around their mine. One-fifth of their employees are Aboriginal, they have 500 employees. People think De Beers is generous. When has De Beers ever been generous? And Idle No More is about more than Treaties, it’s about Bill c-45 and elements in it that affect everyone. Our water protection is gone. 99.9% of it is gone. Isn’t that something to stand against? Even if you don’t belong to a Treaty.

          • No argument here. My focus is on treaties and land claims because that is not understood by most Canadians and is a key element in making things right

          • These damn Treaties have been “right” since day one. Every other nation on earth except the US would have butchered these fools.

            And it wouldn’t have taken any longer than about 35 seconds.

        • excellent!

    • How much time have you spent on reserve Andrew? At a guess i’d say if you have been on one you never actually got out of your car.

      • Actually I lived and worked with Natives for 2 years on a Reserve—-but that`s none of your concern or even ” guess “.

        You must be a slow learner—many times you have been told not to judge the circumstances of others that you know nothing about, yet you continue, and once again you`re wrong.

        • Then say so and gives us the benefit of your first hand experience
          rather than Conservative TPs ie., Aborignal people should just join
          mainstream Canada and are not entitled to any special consideration.I’ve lived on reserve also and drawn different conclusions than yourself.
          And can the royal …we have all told you bs. You’re as much inclined to prejudge as anyone else here. Fact… it isn’t your blog, so can it!

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    • this comment is do delightfully unaware of itself.

    • That’s your take-away from this article? Can you read?

  4. You left our the FAIPOFS CFO: Andrew Coyne.

  5. There might be some point to this bigoted diatribe if it weren’t for the fact that McParland is absolutely right. Occupy Wallstreet, Idle No More, every protest event that happens whenever, coincidentally I’m sure, parliament is out and the press needs something to write about, are the same core group of people. They’re the Professional Protesters who’ll show up to “protest” for any left-wing (you say “progressive, I say “bull$hit”) cause, no matter how vague or ridiculous.

    And I don’t think anybody is telling these people to stay home, the problem is that they’re breaking laws to get their point across. If you can’t get noticed without breaking the law, you probably don’t deserve to be noticed (though in this case, INM was getting plenty of attention before they started breaking the law).

    • Right, you held that opinion when western grain farmers were breaking the law, paying fines,protesting or even occasionally going to jail for their belief that the WB was unfair.
      The amount of smug self righteousness and hypocrisy on display by the right side[ and the establishment] opinion over what is clearly an issue of historical injustice for FNs people is pathetic. Emma is bang on. Take some geritol, viagra or whatever it takes to wake up and at least listen to the segments of society you don’t like. And the rent a protester theme is tired and sagging in this instance. Whenever i tune in to APTN i have litte difficulty spotting lots of genuine indians out there.

      • *sigh* Do you even think before you start typing?

        My opinion was the same. The difference being that, as you pointed out, the farmers were paying fines and going to jail.

        Unlike yourself, I don’t expect anybody to be able to break the law and get away with it. Unlike you, I expect our laws to be enforced as written. Unlike you, I believe we should have one set of laws that governs everybody the same.

        As for the rest of your oh-so insightful comment… the reason so many feel (rightfully so) self righteous, is because people are breaking the law, and getting away with it.

        Now go smoke another bong hoot.

        • Wrong. The farmers only faced the possibility of jail if they didn’t pay their fines. It may or may not have been a just law but as you like to point out it was the law then.

          “If you can’t get noticed without breaking the law, you probably don’t
          deserve to be noticed (though in this case, INM was getting plenty of
          attention before they started breaking the law).”

          Here’s your customary non sequitur Rick. I believe this was one of the main points in Emma’s article – one that sailed way over your head.

          • Thus far none of the ‘idle’ oafs has even been fined, despite the illegality of their blockades.

      • Grain farmers never blocked the roads in Regina or Saskatoon, chained themselves to statues, assaulted passersby, nor anything else common in wastrel protests.

        • Who has assaulted anyone? I haven’t seen anything in the news, and it is clearly not the intent of #idlenomore to promote violence, they don’t even sanction blockades.
          Farmers may have only symbolically broken the law, but nevertheless they put authorities in the position of enforcing the law. I don’t say they didn’t have a case, I simply point out the double standard with FNs. I don’t blame police chiefs for taking this cautiously at all. Being delayed for an hour or two is not worth more than a trip to the hospital or much worse.

          • If there is a double standard, it’s the usual one of offering far more leeway to indian protesters, or people protesting on behalf of indians, than of any other protesters, such as the various G20 or G8 groups, for example.

          • No link to the assault assertions then?
            As for double standards – maybe. But do you want to see this blow up larger than what it now is…a public inconvenience and largely peaceful and good humoured?

          • G8, occupy, and G20 protesters were all involved in assaults… but i assumed you knew that. Plus of course the blockaders south of Edmonton attacked that poor woman’s pickup truck, and could well have done her bodily harm had she not kept the doors locked.

          • Yeah and to be sure i took a quick look for you on you tube, since you still haven’t provided evidence of your claimed assault. Funny thing happened, pretty much all the stories popped up turned out to be assaults on the protesters. That women you spoke of tried to drive right through the blockade. Post both sides of the story or simply shut up please.

          • You need links? Great Scot, where were you during Caledonia? There was cause there for dozens of arrests, innocent bystanders were asaulted – a couple of them grievously, and both public and private property was destroyed while Julie (No Gonads) Fantino and his lads stood by.

          • Don’t conflate Caledonia with #idlenomore. They aren’t even remotely related. And they wont be if the govt gets on top the native file.

        • I live in Regina, and yes indeed, there have been several noon hour blitzes of farm equipment slowly rolling down Albert St to the Legislature over the years I’ve been here. Yes they do block the roads in the capital city of Regina to protest and get attention. Planned protests, promoted by local media. Intended to block the roads at busy times, so that all the city folks understand their issues. But I do enjoy your term, “wastrel protests,” and will try to use it over the next few days.

  6. Bang on Emma, about time someone said as much! Here’s another one for your scrap book.

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/Column+Idle+More+Demon+Harper+There+another+choice/7797913/story.html

    Glavin has been my poster boy for a while now for this kind of Styenesque kind of commentary. Just look at his lede, thrusting the giant strawman in the window for all to ou and aw over…let the chips fall where they may. I realize he has a serious intent – to hi- light his view that there is an internal coup of sorts directed at Atleo and the moderates in the AFN. But in attempting that he routinely disparages “traditional” practises and uses words like cudgels to beat opponents over the head. There’s a lot of this kind of journalism out there these days. I guess it garners more attention and appreciative reviews for being brave or cutting edge journalism – but is really sensationalistic and conceited/vain – than the plodders like Geddes[ sorry guys] and Wells, Delacourt, Hebert and company.[ Coyne and Potter while over the top or dogmatic at times have at least the good grace to be so about various subjects,and from occasionally different directions.IOWs genuine contrarians]

  7. Never mind the content of this opinion piece it reads like the ramblings of a Young Offender. There is no depth. Nothing new.He could be writing on any topic but still reads tasteless and vulgar. He tries too hard but falls flat. Send him back to journalism school or better yet send him back to grade nine at the institution.

    • Him ?……..hmmmm.

      • Well john never bothered to read the article ( blog) so he assumes it was written by a ” him”

  8. xxx

  9. Ms Teitel should realize the very people that are criticizing these “faux” movements are the people that coined the term “question authority before they question you.”

  10. Major bad mindset those at Idle No More; protestors think nothing of going cross country to protest but wont drive five minutes into town to drop a resume

    • Ummmm… did you know there are no roads in or out of #Attawapiskat? The closest employment is De Beers Mine, 90km away and no road to get there from “town”? De Beers has generously offered employment to 100 of 500 positions to people from local reserves, but that means the people have to leave their homes because it is so far away. What other employment do you think people on Attawapiskat have? How are the poor people there supposed to drop off a resume?

      Do you really believe reserves are a mere 5 minutes from “town”? Have you heard about the group of youth who are making an 1,100 km treck in -35 weather from their remote reserve to Ottawa to support Idle No More? How do you think they are getting here?

      And many, many Aboriginal people protesting have jobs, but they had to leave their homes, families, traditions to get them in big cities full of intolerant bigots such as yourself. Way, way too many of you.

      • Live in Saskatchewan ghost towns scattered all over the place. Work dried up people moved what makes these people special

      • The solution is to move to where there is opportunity, employment, and prosperity.

        I left my small town of some 2700 souls because the employment prospects were slim, and it has done me no harm.

      • But Pam E that would of required Brian Mouland to actually do some research and then he would not have ” gone off half cocked ” and then what fun would we have missed !

        • .Did some research No jobs where you live move shocked an Einstein like you could not solve that equation

  11. You have heart, Teitel. But if you’re not conservative when you’re old you have no brain. For the record, my mother was a socialist in her youth. As a person of colour it’s quite entertaining to watch her swoon to this day when she talks about Pierre Trudeau. Still, some people never grow up (like my aging hippy neighbours. Damn these elitist liberals in the Beaches!). Kay, McParland and my beloved Margaret Wente grew up. Hence the wisdom–mistaken by you to be conservatism. I can’t speak for the others but Margaret Wente is no conservative. I don’t know her personally but I know a conservative when I see one. She’s no conservative. She just practices a middle-of-the-road common sense that liberals have either forgotten or aren’t able to comprehend. She does not march in lockstep with all things liberal so she’s not liberal enough for you, which makes her conservative in your eyes.

  12. Old fart–New fart–whatever.
    the fact is $$billions of Canadian Taxpayers money is being farted away by too many bands and chiefs in this country.
    No accountability!! This is why 2/3 of Canadians are and should be concerned!!

  13. I am appalled at this article. My grandfather was the late Senator James Gladstone. The first aboriginal senator in Canada; he fought for the rights of our people. His great grandfather was the late Prime Minister William Ewart Gladstone of England.

    Did the aboriginals ask to sign treaties? Mist of them did not even know what they were signing but the interpreter made it sound good. They did not even know how to write a signature. They had them print an “X” They were independent and they lived off the land for all their basic needs- food, clothing and shelter.

    The government corralled them off on small pieces of land. For what, to take away their independence and make them sub servient and dependent on the federal government.. They put us in residential school and took away our culture and language. They wanted us to learn the English language and become assimilated and disappear into Canadian society. Because they made us sub-servient our people live in a vicious circle of poverty and death ! This genocide because of the dismal lives they lead
    daily! Some are worse of than 4th world countries not 3rd world poverty. This was caused by the government and now Harper without consultation with us just assumes we will take thus lying down!

    What about the immigrants who come to Canada they get monies to go to school
    Etc they are treated and funded more than the average Canadian and Aboriginal peoples.

  14. Emma, welcome to the YOFS (Young Farts) club. As a YOFS member you exhibit the humorous and sometimes annoying habit of criticizing “reality”. As an OF myself, being at the ripe old age of 64, I see this reality of spirited debate and differences in POV as a healthy part of our democratic ideals. You would better serve this publication by actually doing some research of the subject at hand and present an opinion based on the reality that you find. Too many of you pundits are producing articles, like this one, that simply do not inform your readers of anything and are published as filler between the real content. That would make you a member of the PUPROFILL (Pundits Producing Filler) club.

    • A lot of pundits don’t know the difference between a well-researched column and a letter to the editor

  15. A bit of drivel to fill white space. So what have you really dug into with this piece of journalistic garbage? Excuse me…apart from suggesting that anyone who voices disagreement with the “movement” must be a lame ‘old fart’! I’m blowin’ wind.

    • True.

      This is supposed to be journalism? Know all, tell all, can’t do @&%k-all.

  16. I say first let’s put out the fires. Let’s give our Native communities clean water, decent housing, proper health care, good schools and access to higher education, and the other problems will take care of themselves in due course.

  17. please.. stop this nonsense of showing those terrorist day after day blackmailing us. they are not even intelligent enough to realize, if the impossible happens, and they could bring the economy on its knees, their WELFARE CHEQUES will stop. these people (too many of them) are nothing, but a heavy stone on the nation’s neck, while trying to swim in very rough waters. be a man harper and put them in their place!

    • You stop this nonsense! I am appalled at this article. My grandfather was the late Senator James Gladstone. The first aboriginal senator in Canada; he fought for the rights of our people. His great grandfather was the late Prime Minister William Ewart Gladstone of England.

      Did the aboriginals ask to sign treaties? Mist of them did not even know what they were signing but the interpreter made it sound good. They did not even know how to write a signature. They had them print an “X” They were independent and they lived off the land for all their basic needs- food, clothing and shelter.

      The government corralled them off on small pieces of land. For what, to take away their independence and make them sub servient and dependent on the federal government.. They put us in residential school and took away our culture and language. They wanted us to learn the English language and become assimilated and disappear into Canadian society. Because they made us sub-servient our people live in a vicious circle of poverty and death ! This genocide because of the dismal lives they lead
      daily! We are worse of than 3rd world countries we r 4th world poverty. This was caused by the government and now Harper without consultation with us just assumes we will take thus lying down!

      What about the immigrants who come to Canada they get monies to go to school
      Etc they are treated and funded more than the average Canadian and Aboriginal peoples. As stated before!!
      Do your homework get educated I have my Master’s do you Ignorance…

      • The late Senator Gladstone was a progressive leader and a great man. He’d be disgusted by your backward-looking ignorance. I believe that you are trolling under false colours.

        • Excuse me! This obviously was not directed at you! My apologies but yes I was upset but trolling on false colours! I do agree with you: I’m proud that my grandfather was progressive & CONSERVATIVE, too and called “The Gentle Persuader”!

          Thx for your comments and put downs but they were not directed at you. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, that’s why you live in this great and beautiful country called “Canada”. This is my message to my native students, “Let’s take responsibility instead of making excuses!” I’ve seen many of them go on to become teachers, leaders, nurses, councillors and counsellors, actors, etcetera.

      • Ok, you’re proud of your lineage. Howerver, this gives your opinions no greater credence. While boasting of your “Master”s” you do no more than copy and paste a former comment, except to end with the incoherent statement “Do your homework get educated I have my Master’s do you Ignorance…”. This leads me to point out that your posting is rife with errors in spelling, grammar, and syntax. Your “Master’s” isn’t in English Lit., is it?

        • As is your grammar and ignorance! Do your homework and I put that comment in for the last ignorant comment! Walk a mile in our moccasins before you say anything! Your comments tomregit show your ignorance of our plight. But , yes, I am an Eng. Lit. Major ha ha! My spelling has nothing to do with this! And I am proud of my lineage because my point to the other person was an still is! Don’t stereotype everyone as not being able to walk across the street to hand in a resume! We are not all ignorant and
          Illiterate. Assumptions grr, I have a friend who passed with great distinction but we had to proof read her typing , grammar and spelling! And she is also and Eng Major but get your facts straight . Here in
          Canada we get the major above! Lit is
          About reading literature!! Anyways, what’s the point Yada Yada Yada :)

          • I said nothing of “your plight” or “walking across the street to hand in a resume”. You read but apparently your comprehension is somewhat lacking.

            “We are not all ignorant and Illiterate.”
            I don’t believe anyone said that, certainly not me. It is you who resorts to ad hominem. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

            “Walk a mile in our moccasins before you say anything!”
            Walk a mile in my work boots before you tell me when I can speak.

            “Eng Major but get your facts straight . Here in Canada we get the major above!”
            OK What does that mean??? Master’s in Eng. Lit??….Your writing is convoluted and confusing. Is it your anger issue that prevents you from constructing sentence that can be understood?

            I am Metis, so Grrr and get p.o.’ed all you want at me. I’m not your problem. You are a braggart and victim at the same time.

            Edit; I agree with Zog. “You are trolling under false colours”.

          • I said nothing of “your plight” or “walking across the street to hand in a resume”. You read but apparently your comprehension is somewhat lacking.

            “We are not all ignorant and Illiterate.”
            I don’t believe anyone said that, certainly not me. It is you who resorts to ad hominem. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

            “Walk a mile in our moccasins before you say anything!”
            Walk a mile in my work boots before you tell me when I can speak.

            “Eng Major but get your facts straight . Here in Canada we get the major above!”
            OK What does that mean??? Master’s in Eng. Lit??….Your writing is convoluted and confusing. Is it your anger issue that prevents you from constructing sentence that can be understood?

            I am Metis, so Grrr and get p.o.’ed all you want at me. I’m not your problem. You are a braggart and victim at the same time.

            Edit; I agree with Zog. “You are trolling under false colours”.
            **Re posted because it was removed while your answer to me remains.

        • Yes, it is? What makes you an expert, anyways! Okay! I answered the WRONG BLOG don’t get your —– tied in a knot and who are you to cast stones…..I hope Idle No More does not stop; through diplomacy and humbleness they will accomplish their fight in defeating Prime Minister Harper! This is the point we are trying to get across to all Canadians! So STOP ALREADY!!

  18. It is becoming more evident why the National Chiefs do not wish the media to pay too much attention to them, or at least other than that attention which they can self-manage: we might discover that they have all become millionaires on the backs not only of the Canadian taxpayers, but more shamefully, on the backs of their own people.

    It continues to amaze me that the media in Canada persists in pretending that the aboriginals are victims of white governments when in fact they are even more so victims of their own corrupt leadership.

    • Obviuously you have not read anything about Canadian history. It reminds me of our PM Harper. He is such a great humorist. Just after apologizing for residential schools , he said with a straight face that Canada had no colonial history! Put him up for teh Leacock prize

  19. So anyone who expresses an opinion other than yours is an “old fart”? How childish can you get?

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