Will Canada Post survive?

As Charlie Gillis explains, its five-point plan buys time, but it’s no cure for the post office’s ills

So Canada Post has taken a plunge—of sorts. The phase-out of door-to-door delivery is the headline-grabber in a five-point plan released today that aims to drag a once-profitable Crown corporation into the digital age. The post office figures it can cut as much as $900 million annually in costs within five years, mainly by reducing its exposure to its fast-declining lettermail business.

It sounds like wrenching change. The door-to-door postman is an archetype I suspect many Canadians would be happy to pay a bit more to preserve (to say nothing of territorially minded dogs). But as we pointed out last spring, the threat to Canada Post is not temporary; it’s existential. It’s entirely possible that even these decisive steps won’t be enough. A few thoughts:

A rural vs. urban battle over mail still looms.

In political terms, the end of door-to-door letter delivery was the easiest of many options on the table, because the Harper government’s electoral strength lies in rural and suburban communities where the vast majority of customers already travel to gather up the mail (if you believe purportedly “arms-length” Crown corporations are above such considerations, you should probably stop reading now). Single-family homeowners in cities, then, will have a tough time arguing that a trip down to the street corner is an unfair imposition.

Yet the economics of universal mail delivery can’t be avoided forever: it costs more to bring mail to remote places than populous ones, and now that everyone’s getting roughly the same service, further price hikes might cause urban dwellers to wonder why they must pay the same rate to send mail across town as they do to sent it to far-flung corners of the country. You could let them pay less, but woe to the rural MP who must explain this so-called “nonlinear pricing” to his or her angry constituents.

Surviving means competing.

Parcel and commercial delivery represent growth areas for Canada Post, and the company has done a good job setting itself up as the go-to deliverer of online orders for retailers like Wal-Mart. But the post office does not have the monopoly on parcel delivery that it does on lettermail. In cities, especially, it faces serious competition from big courier services and nimble freelancers. The company points to its one great advantage: an unequalled distribution network of sorting facilities, vehicles and people. But every reduction in service eats into that edge.

The pension issue must be resolved.

The company’s plan is carrying a $6.5-billion deficit, and it’s planning to shrink its workforce by more than a quarter, to less than 40,000 workers, which means there’ll be less money coming into the company in the form of employee contributions. On Wednesday, Canada Post confirmed that Ottawa has agreed to provide “temporary relief”—i.e. payments—to ensure the plan remains solvent. The post office, meanwhile, says it plans to reform the plan to make it sustainable (new non-unionized employees, for instance, aren’t allowed to join the old plan). This is a similar reprieve to the one the feds gave Air Canada and, as in the airline’s case, a massive federal bailout would be required if it fails.

Will the feds at some point be forced to subsidize service?

If it doesn’t stop losing money, Ottawa will be forced to rewrite Canada Post’s charter, changing it from a Crown corporation expected to turn a profit to—what? The options are intriguing. One is to hive off the least profitable parts of the business—remote delivery, for example—and put it out to tender to private companies. Ottawa would simply pick up the tab. Another is to partially privatize the company as the U.K. has done with the Royal Mail, hoping pressure from shareholders would drive profitability. It could try New Zealand’s model of simply revising the postal charter to ensure it covers its own losses and debts.

All this might have been inconceivable a decade or so ago, when the postal service was the circulatory system of the national economy. That’s what drove the system to expand to the point 40 years ago when it began delivering daily, five days a week, to every business and residential address in the country (even then, Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau wondered whether it was a luxury).

But things have changed, and nowhere is that more evident than in the consultations the post office conducted earlier this year among Canadians whose bills, personal notes, gifts and even greeting cards increasingly arrive in email inboxes. Residential customers, the post office said, “often stated that reducing home mail delivery to less than five days a week or relaxing the performance standards (i.e. speed of delivery) would be acceptable.”

In other words, it’s not that we no longer want a universal, full-service post office; we just have to admit we no longer need one.




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Will Canada Post survive?

  1. Most Canadians will be indifferent, not just because they don’t need letter mail, but because Canada Post stopped treating us like customers a long time ago. We have become the product they sell to their real customers, the marketing companies that want to sell us stuff.

    • Yes, but who do you thing is going to bailout those unions and management fat pension shortfalls? This CEO needs to be fired and get someone to jam management and the unions into reality or it will cost you big time.

      Maybe if media did some real journalism they would also talk about the Postie pension shortfalls and bailouts they want. But like GM in the USA, they should eat it as they created it, as productive Canadians often without pensions shouldn’t have to be forced to pay for this corrupt CEO and greed of unions.

    • We have become the product they sell to their real customers, the marketing companies that want to sell us stuff.

      Yet somehow, people insist that email is “progress”.

      • You are free to do without email if you actually do not think it is progress.

        Though really, email is looking a bit obsolete itself these days.

  2. I’m a rural dweller who has lived in both Nova Scotia and Saskatchewan. I was stunned that door to door rural mail delivery was actually something done there. We pick up our own mail from town in Saskatchewan, along with our groceries and other basic amenities. In Nova Scotia though, the merest hint that they might not get door to door service had everyone up in arms. It just goes to show how petty people are about guarding their entitlements.

    Now that urban mail delivery is on the chopping block, I’m sure you will see people up in arms about not receiving their entitlement too, even though they could simply go to pick up their mail once a week themselves, and spare themselves a whole lot of junk mail.

    The easiest way forward may be to simply privatize Canada Post. Then most people will choose the cheapest option, and cut out services like home delivery themselves.

    • Entitlements? How about paid service?

      • If Canadians were willing to pay for what Canada Post now offers, and the true cost of what that home delivery entails, then there wouldn’t be a problem would there?

        If Canadians want a free service without paying their share for it, that is an entitlement isn’t it?

        • Canada Post is not free….it’s never been free….it’s paid for in taxes.

          And if the govt could manage money properly instead of playing politics, we wouldn’t have a problem.

          An entitlement is a paid for service, or something you’re being paid….don’t use Repub definitions. They don’t speak English.

          • Sure, but how do you want to spend your money? To deliver mail to people who can pick it up themselves, or on social services for the people that need it?

            Plus, it is free if you are getting a disproportionate service for what you are paying in. You and all the other urban dwellers were paying for rural mail delivery service in Nova Scotia, not the rural Nova Scotians. Heck, you pay for my mail service to my town post office, even though we could certainly afford to pay for the increased cost of shipping things way out here.

          • I’d like NOT to spend it on F-35′s and war ships. Get back to me with your minor complaints when we end the major waste of money that the CAF is

          • Well, I’ll agree that our military procurement needs to be improved.

            But why not save money there and at Canada Post? They aren’t mutually exclusive goals.

          • This isn’t Somalia. We are a very wealthy country.

            What is this big kick on ‘saving money’? How about spending the money necessary to get a job done?

            You know….proper money management.

          • Well, I’m not convinced that home mail delivery is a job that needs to be done. Certainly not a universal delivery of mail everyday. Cutting home delivery of mail would be proper money management.

            If a job doesn’t need to be done, why pay for it? We live in the digital age now, and not subsidizing the old and inefficient ways to do it will provide an incentive for people to move on into the present.

          • Your original argument was that mail delivery was some kind of freebie we shouldn’t have. My response was that it’s a service we pay for in taxes.

            Now you’re arguing we don’t need it. YOU can nip to the corner group box in the snow….so everybody should have to….forgetting entirely that the generation most likely to still use the mail system now have canes, and walkers. There are also of course disabled people in wheelchairs, moms with a passle of kids etc

            However….. if YOU can do it….to heck with anyone else.

            But all of that aside…..where will the money go? The money that provided the postal service, and now doesn’t?

            Into health and education instead? Or F-35s?

            Or are we talking cheese-paring Con ideology again?

            Lower taxes….? Forgetting that countries with low or no taxes should theoretically be booming…..but are instead – starving…..?

            There is a movement going on in Italy right now….far nastier than the mild-mannered ‘Occupy’ of previous years. It’s called the Pitchfork Protest. They are angry that the govt gets taxes….yet is cancelling services because of ‘austerity’.

            That is the usual reaction to this sort of thing you know….not that anyone will take up a pitchfork for the post office….but because it’s just one more in a long line of things being cut.

            Which one will be the ‘tipping point’?

          • We can provide home delivery to people who actually need it for a fraction of the cost of universal mail delivery. Heck, with the money we save, we can provide more services for those people. It isn’t impossible to deliver mail to those people the same way we deliver their food.

            Plus, we can let people’s protests and violence from determining what should and shouldn’t be cut. People never want their own ox gored, but that doesn’t mean that oxes don’t need goring sometimes. People will complain and protest when F-35′s aren’t bought too, it doesn’t mean that we should necessarily buy F-35′s.

            We should instead be logical about it. If a public service isn’t required anymore, it should be cut. If people benefit disproportionately from a service (like rural door to door mail delivery) they should pay a proportionate measure of the cost.

            Union jobs aren’t sacred, and neither are public service jobs. Public servants exist to serve the public, and if they are not serving the public anymore, they should be cut.

          • We could do a lot of things if we managed our money properly instead of relying on ideology.

            However, running a country this way……pulling solutions out of a hat at random….and without any thought or foresight….is a damn good way to get the pitchfork solution….or at the very least a massive loss of votes.

          • What foresight is needed for this decision? We know exactly what we are gaining and losing by cutting home delivery. We know exactly what we will gain and lose by privatizing the mail service because even countries that have larger welfare states than we do have already done so.

            The only people who have cause to complain are the people who only care about union and public service jobs to the exclusion of other considerations.

            These are simply both the most environmentally and fiscally responsible decisions going forward. Less junk mail, more consumers paying for their own mail delivery.

          • Well if you’re discussing the post office by itself….they needed to prepare the public. 3 day a week phase-out, and some dates for changeovers. Not just an abrupt shutdown right before Xmas. Harper will wear this one….and on a daily basis. I thought Harp wanted to be reelected….if so, this is no way to go about it.

            http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/12/12/conservatives_missing_in_action_in_canada_post_cuts_hbert.html

            Don’t assume that because you like something….other people will.

            At what point does it stop….the census…the scientists….the mail……and the pitchforks come out?

          • Hur? Abrupt shutdown just before Christmas? Where are you getting that? I read “The Crown corporation announced its plans Wednesday, saying urban home delivery will be phased out over the next five years.” – CBC.

            As I said before, I don’t care if people want to protect their pet projects or services long after they have served the public interest. I will not be dictated to by thugs when rational decisions should shape public policy. So you can stow your pitchfork.

          • The announcement was just made Yanni….right before Xmas. Which means a lot of people now know they’ll shortly be out of a job. It could have waited till Jan. Don’t play dumb.

            Oh now you’re being dictated to by thugs? Are they after your throat by any chance? To shove something down it? LOL

            If you want rational decisions….you shouldn’t have voted for Harper.

            You Cons are soooooo obvious.

          • If anything, it is more charitable to tell them before Christmas, because then they won’t overspend on the holiday season.

            Plus, the severance and early retirement packages are going to quite nice, and the axe must take at least 16 months to drop, just like it is the case for all federal employees.

            So I’m not feeling particularly sorry for the Canada Post employees. Any other courier wouldn’t get such an easy exit.

          • Yeah, their kids will remember your kindness all their lives.

            ‘There are 2 types of Conservatives – those that want to hurt someone and those who want the government to do it for them.’

          • So am I supposed to pay postal workers to deliver junk mail to me? Or maybe twiddle their thumbs perhaps? All the while when money could go to people who actually destitute or could stay in taxpayer’s pockets?

            Where does this attitude come from that people are entitled to a job for the rest of their lives no matter what? People are employed in a job to be useful. When they are no longer useful in that job then that job should end.

            Yeah, it sucks to get laid off. But compared to everyone in the private sector they will have a much easier time of it. To say that people are entitled to a job for life, even if that job is not needed, is just monstrous greed.

          • You pay taxes….just like everyone else.

            And we don’t know where the ‘saved money’ will go

            Likely an F-35.

            You and tim robson are just jealous of postal workers….THAT comes through loud and clear. Class envy….NDP stuff.

          • You never answered the question. Should taxpayers pay Canada Post employees that are no longer needed, even though they are no longer needed?

          • The govt has decided they’re no longer needed….not the voters.

          • So do you think they are still needed? That is the debate everyone else is having, and I’d certainly rather debate that, because it is an easy debate to win. You are the one talking about civil unrest and pitchforks and what not.

            But are agreed in principle that jobs that no longer serve a purpose are jobs that shouldn’t exist right? It would be good to get a resolution to this thread.

          • It’s up to the customers to decide, Yanni.

            And Harper may not like their judgement.

          • It’s funny that the more reasonable Yanni is, the more EmilyOne resorts to rants and personal insults.

          • LOL

          • Do you really think that saved money on mail service will go to other needed social services??
            Like minimal monthly payouts to mothers instead of established daycares, so a parent can afford to go and work?
            It’s ‘monstrous greed’ to want to work for a living throughout your life??
            Are you aware of the number of temporary foreign workers flooding into Canada now? The long established Heinz tomatoe plant in Leamington Ontario is closing, even with its long list of Mexican and Caribbean immigrant workers over the years.
            Dofasco Steel, an industrial icon in Hamilton Ontario,is now shut down – a product of U. S, takeover.
            You certainly must have heard of the Royal Bank recently farming in east Indian employees in order to lay off established Canadian employees.
            This is not a government that wants to recognize social service needs, while preoccupied with meeting corporate requests.

          • Yes, because trying to protect girls who merely wanted to go to school in the Kandahar area was such a BAD thing.

          • So we’ll force our beliefs on people in another country?

            When has THAT ever worked out well?

          • Well,it sounds like those girls were happy to accept our beliefs that girls should be educated. Or maybe they don’t count because the patriarchy in their country has decided girls shouldn’t be educated. It’s funny how privileged “progressive” Western women like EmilyOne are all for patriarchies as long as they’re in nonWestern countries.

          • So…..phone your recruiting center and sign up.

          • Well, at least you’re being honest here. Unfortunately, very few people are willing to accept the Canada Post should be funded by general tax revenues, rather than its own operating revenues. Not even the CUPW is publicly advocating that.

          • I’m always honest….and the Post Office has been paid for by taxes since 1867 with Canadians quite happy about it all this time.

          • Canada Post does not get tax payer dollars. The government does not fund them at all. In fact, Canada Post has given the Fed. government over one billion dollars in transfer payments over the last five years.

          • Sorry Emily… Canada post has not used taxpayer money in many years..they have given the Gov. hundreds of millions of $ in profit in the last 20 years that the Gov. put into there “General Coffers”. Or spend it on what you want. Check it out!

          • You know that Wikipedia can be changed at any time by anyone? Its not a reliable source for information.

          • Yes, everyone is aware of that. However it is as reliable as britannica on error rate.

        • Hey, most of us no longer need the post office but are forced to pay bailouts like tax slaves.

          Only hope is to privatize and go to twice a month delivery. And charge junk mail more so junk mail pays fair rates and is not subsidized by the taxpayer.

  3. This announcement comes after their big Christmas campaign on television touting door to door Christmas delivery. More waste in this time time of adversity. Typical Government BS.

  4. CEO should be fired for say 2019 he will balance up. I could have it done in 30 days but then I would do something productive other than talk of promises that will NEVER be kept. THe CEO lies to us, he has no intention of fixing Canada Post and neither does the union. Need a PM with guts to fix this mess and fire the CEO and get someone in who can read a balance sheet.

    Why not only deliver mail once per week? Fact is snail mail is near obsolete and downsizing is inevitable. If unions and bad management can’t see it, well, fire them as we already have big corporate welfare cows like Air Canada planes and CBC waste to pick our pockets like thieves. Add in postie pension shortfalls, and Canda post is bankrupt.

    But it is all about screwing the productive people that make this country work, and fewer will work for this Ottawa waste and corruption.

    But hey, we are just tax-debt-slaves of corrupt state, they steal from us and we be complacent.

    • CEO should be fired for say 2019 he will balance up. I could have it done in 30 days but then I would do something productive other than talk of promises that will NEVER be kept.

      A heroic offer, but you should probably have someone proofread your resume first.

    • “CEO should be fired for say 2019 he will balance up. I could have it done in 30 days”

      So fire Flaherty.

  5. Will the post office survive? Short answe is no as they are quickly becoming obsolete and far to expensive to keep. In 3 to 8 years they will be bankrupt and privatized. Delivery will come once a week tops and be phased to once a month or less.

  6. Before thrown out off power, the Harper Neo-Con gang destroys everything Canadian.

    • Why exactly is universal delivery of home mail, Canadian? Why does Canada Post necessarily need to be emblematic of Canada for that matter?

  7. Article misses the big fact of a huge rate increase on mail….20 cents. This is what will kill the mail system. Delivery to a box for everyone was bound to come someday and it is now…this makes sense.

    • I’m going to dispute that an increase of the cost of letters will really kill mail delivery, because people already are choosing cheaper and easier options. It might accelerate the change businesses sending out bills will switch to an electronic form of payment, but that day is here already anyway.

      But yeah, low demand is not improved by higher prices. But what choice do they have really? They are under a strict mandate to deliver mail, and only deliver mail so they can’t diversify, they can’t get rid of their overly compensated employees, and there is no desire from the government or the public to pour more tax dollars into a largely obsolete service.

      • Canada Post is not funded by tax payer dollars. I don’t know where you get your info from but they do not get one cent from the Fed government. Actually Canada Post can diversify but they choose not too. Why you ask? That is a good question. Ask the labour minister why the government (who the is majority share holder of Canada Post) won’t do it. They hired a guy named Deepak Chopra to be the CEO and he wasn’t hired to turn the company around he was hired to destroy it. The previous CEO Moya Green was hired to do the same thing but she went to the Royal Mail Service in Britain before she could finish the job here.

  8. The door-to-door postman is an archetype I suspect many Canadians would be happy to pay a bit more to preserve.

    Given that two-thirds of Canadians don’t get home delivery TODAY, I highly doubt that would be the case. I haven’t lived in a place that had Canada Post delivering right to my door in about 30 years. Why would I be “happy to pay more” so that a bunch of other Canadians can continue to receive a subsidized service that I haven’t received in decades?
    I’m all for Canada pulling together, but I highly doubt that the 23 million Canadians who don’t currently get home delivery are going to volunteer to pay more in order to ensure that the 11 million Canadians who do get home delivery, get to keep it.

    • It’s a strangely emotional reaction, isn’t it? I can’t recall the last time I received a personal letter in the mail. E-mail fully absorbed that function over a decade ago. Similarly, bills and similar communications are mainly electronic. Most of what I receive in the mail (delivered to my door) is a stream of junk mail and catalogs. I suspect that most people would realize that they’re in the same position – this is a service that doesn’t really provide anything we need. Those who can’t or won’t use an electronic option are steadily dwindling in number.

  9. It’s understandable, but nonetheless funny, imho, that all of the stories on this file seem to focus on all of the people saying “Oh no! Canada Post is going to get rid of home delivery to your door?!?!?” while paying comparatively little attention to the fact that twice as many Canadians reacted to this new by saying “What? Canada Post is still delivery right to people’s front doors?!?! I haven’t seen that in decades!!!”

    • It depends where you are. They still deliver to people’s doors on farms and acreages in Nova Scotia, simply because people always moan and froth at the mouth whenever you suggest that perhaps you should pick up your mail in the same town you get your groceries. People are strange.

      I commend you though for not closing ranks to defend redundant public service jobs at the cost of all other considerations merely because you are a public servant yourself.

    • Totally agree. And then there’s also the fact that even the people who do currently receive home delivery still have to walk down the block to SEND a letter. Is it really going to change people’s that when they go to drop off their letters, that they can grab their mail at the same time?

  10. you Canadians think you have problems with your post office? Come on down here to Cagayan de Oro City, Northern Mindanao, Philippines, where you’ll see the burnt out shell of a post office (the fire occurred 6 Jan 2011), but there’s a new sign above proclaiming PhilPost (“You send, we deliver”) and the employees still sort out the mail, huddled in a small corner of one part of the building that wasn’t too badly burnt. My son ordered a DVD from London via air mail: it took 6 months!! It took only a day or so to get flown to Manila, then it had to wait until a barge was loaded and ready to go to the southern Philippines after which time it had to be unloaded, stamped and sorted, and a notice sent to the client, who upon picking it up was slapped with a further P30 delivery fee. You guys ain’t seen nothing yet!! Count your blessings and stop your whinging!

  11. Let’s focus on the real problem – wages. I have been using Canada Post as a supplier to my business for 30 years and I can tell you this is an organization that is ruled by the unions with respect to mail processing and letter carriers and is paying ridiculous amounts of money for very simplistic work

    The high cost (wages) of the letter carrier alone puts Canada Post into a deficit position, so why not let them go, seems to be the conventional wisdom.

    Let’s look a little closer. You have a job which requires very little skill. Let’s be honest people, you only have to be able to put one foot in front of the other and read an address.

    Here’s a proposal. Don’t abolish home delivery. Phase out all the current letter carriers and in their place hire people who have recently entered into our country who are dying to have a job.

    Many of these individuals require skills training or ESL. And many are currently in our welfare system getting paid not to work! So, for a 1/2 day, they deliver the mail and for the other 1/2 day they get skills training and ESL in order to move on to other jobs. They are paid a maximum amount of (for example) $25,000 a year for five 1/2 days weekly and skill training is free.

    After two years, it would be mandatory to move on to a job placement program, making room for more incoming people to work and learn skills at the same time.

    Not only would this save Canada Post hundreds of millions of dollars, but it would also save our welfare system tens of millions as well. This would give those willing to work the feeling of being a contributing member of your society. It also sends a message to the world that we are a just society rewarding people who work and want to contribute that Canada is no longer a place where you get money for free.

    How do we get the government to use common sense and consider proposals like this…????

    Pass it on!

    • I challenge you do go and do a letter carrier’s job for one day. You would not last a day at their job. It may seem very simplistic but there are a lot processes that you have to know. You have to be able to walk least 10k a day with 30 pounds of mail on your shoulders. I don’t think that you would pass the physical fitness test that you must complete in order to be a letter carrier not to mention the timed sortation test that you have to pass to be given employment there. They weed out a lot of people with those two tests and that’s after you pass a general comprehension test (which most fail). A lot of people quit after the first day because they cannot handle walking that distance under load. Also, you have to deliver mail no matter what the weather conditions are like outside. If its -30, too bad you still have to go out and deliver the mail.

      Your so-called solution would only send more people to the unemployment office to collect EI. Then your plan would bring in people from other countries that have trouble with English and they wouldn’t get a job there because they failed the entrance exam and then they too would go on EI or well fare at the taxpayers expense. So if you are willing to support that through your tax dollars then it’s a great plan.

      How much do you think letter carriers get paid for their “simplistic work”?

      What proof do you have that they are “paying ridiculous amounts of money for very simplistic work” and “The high cost (wages) of the letter carrier alone puts Canada Post into a deficit position”. You have none because if you did you would have posted the evidence.

  12. Frankly mail has become irrelevant to most Canadians beyond bills the billers are trying to move online. The competitive parcel business should be just that and not subsidized by the monopoly lettermail infrastructure that the Government has to bailout. And I think you need to look behind the CEO who is not a postie. What article doesn’t even mention is whether or not the postie executive lifers who grew up running a monopoly are the right people to help execute on a relevancy and digital mandate. More fundamentally I’d say the right question is whether or not Canada Post can fairly compete for parcels and digital service and remain financially viable not on the taxpayers dollar?

  13. The company has mismanaged the pension using it for the postal transformation that has been in effect for years now. They have been losing money for 3 years now, but no one has told the public how many new vehicles and new buildings it has purchased to create the massive losses the last few years. An accountant now runs the company, all about crunching numbers to get the results he wants. Tell me how can you go from making 400 million a few years ago, to losing 400 million??? This is a government service for the people, and sure it needs to be more efficient, and it can be.
    MISMANAGEMENT
    p.s
    Everyone must realize that it’s more than money, it’s more middle class jobs gone, we all can’t work multiple minimum wage jobs like the conservative government is driving for. It effects us all.
    The post office has had a few rough years, what about the 20 years in a row it posted profits?, we are suppose to save our excess money, where is the profit monies?

  14. Eliminating the post office will lead to all of us going online to communicate and pay our bills. Guess what, you can all be tracked and your information can be used against you in any way that they want.
    I say it’s the easiest way to get big brother watching us faster.

  15. Instead of having one vehicle delivering our mail to our homes & businesses, we will be all driving to the nearest post office to pick it up – contributing to the climate change. How is this efficiency and stewardship of our environment? Why is the Conservative government so short sited?

  16. Yes, daily delivery is a luxury. I grew up on a farm in Manitoba and we picked up our mail at a small store 2 miles from our farm. Now these same farmers get motorized delivery service. There is no longer a need. I rarely get a letter more than once per week. Lots of junk mail but that can be refused easily by putting a note in your box.

    I regret that so many will lose their jobs but they have been sticking it to the taxpayers for years with their pensions and yearly increases that the rest of us funded. Of course the CP management allowed a lot of this to happen. Did they really care? And the unions who got the raises also were only doing their jobs.

    It all boils down to really poor, over paid management at the Federal level. And unfortunately that exists in every department.

  17. My family all lives in Germany with all communities so close to one another that you can only tell were you are by the road signs. With population is much larger then Canada’s in about half the size of B.C. to mail a letter in country cost several dollars compared to our few cents from Vancouver Island to Newfoundland mmmmmmm so let’s say across per province will cost $2.00 so around $12.00 does that sound fair? Just think say in province is $2.00 and you mail 50 Christmas cards mmmmmmm are you sure you want delivery still? Sure we can go paper less on bills and have aromatic deposits. But wait we will need to supply free Internet then and spend billions setting up remote area’s plus maintain them or maybe if you live remote we should bill them say from between $150.00 to $300.00 a month extra if you want more MG then bare bones. Parcels well there’s lots of options that can now raise there rates based on speed wanted and remoteness and trust me they will. First they will give great deals but the strong will survive as the competition drops you will be paying more. Even now some of your bills are going paperless like Rodgers if you want a paper bill there is a $2.00 charge on your statement every month. I have friends that deliver for Canada Post and yes there is dead weight that’s a union thing but with today’s cost of living unions do protect there members even though may should be let go. It comes down to what are you willing to except as a cost what is a need and what is a want. Let’s face it we are Canadian and we tend to have our heads in the sand when it comes to the world there is a financial crisis if you haven’t heard. In the United States city and some states have filled for chapter 11 there employees have pensions too but many have had to take 10 cents on the dollar instead. We and the postal works need to think what is a pension worth when the Country goes deeper in the hole. I’m sure the CEO’s want more then they deserve and that should be investigated always question what you told and if it sounds wrong speak up! We are Canadian and are know for our complacency we are layer back let’s face it. If we were all told we would get a large double bouble and a old fashioned glazed donut from Timmeys if we went to vote for our Leaders of our Provinces and Country more then likely there would be record turn outs at the poles! Really we need to think too are we watching the left hand of Harper while the right hand signs away our medical system! Distraction works so watch both hands. Let’s be Canadians and stand up together and except less so our children will have more or learn that acting like a red head step child won’t get you what you want with out a cost down the road. Just saying if you love Canada and being a Canadian we need to stand up if it means for less that betters our financial standing and keeps our standard of living we must do it. I can remember when we didn’t have cable but 3 channels and 2 were the same but we were happy we had hockey and the neighbors would visit and all we had was coffee and fresh baked bread let’s not for get were we come from.

  18. So where are people supposed to get their mail in crime prone areas areas of large urban centres once home delivery is done? I can see the crooks lining up to steal bank statements, pension cheques and the likes from the “super boxes”. How will the postal service guard against this happening.

  19. It will survive if the business model change to suit with the demand of the time.

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