Canada's job market is leaving younger workers behind -

Canada’s job market is leaving younger workers behind

The recovery has benefitted older workers over young


In this week’s issue of Maclean’s, on stands now, senior writer Chris Sorensen looks at the grim state of Canada’s job market. Nearly half a decade after the recession officially ended, companies across all sectors have been handing out pink slips at a troubling rate, while the jobs that have been created over the past year have tended to be part time positions.

This, of course, flies directly in the face of the Harper government’s claims about Canada’s strong economy and robust job market. Yes, as the prime minister is fond of saying, Canada has created more than one million jobs since the worst of the recession, but as Unifor economist Jim Stanford pointed out recently, Canada’s working population grows in excess of 350,000 each year. Simply put, there are a lot more potential workers now than there was during the recession. As such, a better gauge of the job market is the employment rate, which captures how many working age people are actually employed. By that measure Canada’s job market has yet to even claw its way back to where it was in 2003, as shown in this chart from our cover story.

But even then, that doesn’t tell the full story of how ugly the employment picture is for some. Here’s the employment rate, broken down by the age groups available through Statistics Canada’s CANSIM database. We’ve experienced a wildly uneven recovery.

While the job market for those in the large 25 to 54 age group (accounting for 66 per cent of workers) is close to finally returning to its pre-recession level, the bookend generations have been flying off in opposite directions—employers are tapping older workers, while those 24 and under have seen their prospects worsen.

This reflects a few things. The recession crashed the retirement dreams for many boomers, meaning more of them are having to postpone their golden years. On the younger end, CIBC put out a report recently that found teens have been displaced from their traditional jobs in retail sales and restaurants by workers aged 19 and up. That still doesn’t explain the drop in employment for workers in the next age group, 20 to 24, though—those coming out of college and university trying to find work. This group accounts for one in ten people in the workforce, and their employment rate has fallen from close to 72 per cent in 2007 to hover around 68 per cent today.

Our cover this week asks How Safe is Your Job? For younger workers, it’s getting harder to find one in the first place.


Canada’s job market is leaving younger workers behind

  1. The way young people are treated and paid in Canada is disgraceful. How are they supposed to ever get ahead or equate work with having a future? And “young” in Canada increasingly means under 40. I certainly wouldn’t work for 15 an hour, much less 10.50. Would barely cover rent and food.

    • Reduce your rent and food bill.

      • Thats why raised on dependency and liberalism people tend to live at home with mommy and daddy into their thirties.

        You know, I love your for money types.

        • Dave stop with the rubbish.

          • Its true. A lot of people are not prepared for the REAL world. When I graduated college and with $220 I moved west and got a job… thing I ever did as I retired early with money. But I did wait on government like a chicken. People I left behind in small town Ontario are still waiting for government and all they get is more taxes.

            If I had waited for government, I would be homeless. I was disabled and coped, made and saved money in good times. What is your excuse?

          • Stop using my posts as a bounce-off for your crackpot theories.

        • Do you want to try that again in English?

      • How?

        • Find a cheaper place to live, or room with other people. Don’t buy processed ready-made food…cook.

          • …so lower your quality of life to absolute developing world conditions for several years, maybe decades? Sounds pretty bad for the economy, let alone your own mental well-being EmilyOne. There is MORE THAN ENOUGH TO GO AROUND here. Why should we condemn our youth and increasingly, middle aged people to a lifestyle far below what the previous generation lived, in the prime of our country’s greatest prosperity?

          • What? It’s a temporary measure for individuals making 10 bucks an hour….not a way of life.

          • Exactly, not a way of life. So you offer no real words of wisdom, just more tripe to blame victims of poverty. Live it or shut up, EmilyOne.

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          • EmilyOne, your bullcrap comments are everywhere on the Macleans site, and with the same anti-worker flame wars you attempt here (see below with Diogenes van Sinope). You need the job more than any of us. You give yourself away.

          • I run a business on the web, sweetpea

            Now get a better job.

          • I won’t ask what sort of sex business that is then. You seriously *live* online and everyone who can google can see that. If you had a business, it’s long since gone bankrupt.

          • Gawd yer bitter and twisted….take a pill

            Then get a better job.

          • I’ll take the red pill, chicita. Truth hurts so good and I can see I stung you with it. So seriously. What sort of unregistered business do you have? Why do you shy away from this question? Is it because you are jobless?

          • You’re new here Regulars know I’m a global development analyst.

            Now do us all a favor, and get a better job.

          • Nice story. No one buys it.

    • Get an education and/or a skill and you’ll make more than 10.50. Pretty simple really.

      • It is. I even put myself through college by doing two jobs. The best was cab driving as I could use idle time to study while waiting for a fare.

        But todays kids often are too liberal-idealistic and don’t understand even the basics of economics. If the power goes out they can’t make change for $1.

        The real problem is our public school system raises kids as passive wait for government compliant types with “blind faith” in government. If I had waited for government I would be homeless and not a 2%er.

        And those taking basket weaving, BA, M(ore)BA, sexology think consumption jobs should come with the big house by default. There is a shortage of consumption jobs but no shortage of productive jobs.

        They need to get an education that is in a productive skill. If a HD mechanic came to Calgary at noon, they could be employed by 3pm. If a sexologist came to Calgary, they would be unemployable.

      • No, it’s not that simple. There’s far too many highly-qualified applicants per job opening. I know so many people with more education than the baby boomers who have held the positions (and won’t let go) for years, and they can’t get hired for the life of them.

        • Highly qualified in what? Consumption skills? Consuption skills are a dime a dozen, anyone can consume for a job. Lots of unemployed want to be teachers as it is a consumption job that for every position there are 10 people waiting.

          I know of no one with productive skills that are unemployed unless they want to be unemployed.

          Send me 5 millwrights, 5 plumbers, 5 electricians, 5 carpenters, 5 welders and 10 HD mechanics at 9am and I will have jobs for all of them the next day. But these are PRODUCTIVE jobs not consumption jobs.

      • There are probably close to a million Canadians with higher educations working for minimum wage. How old are you, 70?

      • Except that isn’t how it works anymore. This is the new deal, keller23: “We will pay you as little as we possibly can. Period. An we will take all of the massive profits, because : capitalism.” It isn’t right and it isn’t fair and it won’t work.

    • “I certainly wouldn’t work for 15 an hour…”

      In preference to not working at all and getting zero?

      Your priorities are misguided.

      • And what is your priority in life, to simply work for the sake of working? The priority is to first survive, and 15/hour is not surviving, it’s gasping. If you are underwater 6 inches, you might as well be at the bottom of the sea, you drown either way. So yeah, not working at all and getting zero is no different than working for 15/hour. It’s just less effort.

        • You start somewhere. If you are not willing to start, then there is no reward in the game for you.

          My first wage was $1.62/hr part time. But now, as I learned and developed skills, got college in needed skills, had a good career and many ever increasing amounts of money and moved for good jobs…investing in myself and investing my savings and early debt retirement, I retired early.

          Old friends from the 70s who waited for government are still waiting.

          • To have been paid $1.62/hr, that must have been many decades ago. The world has changed.

          • “You start somewhere.”… Omg, the 80s called. They want their corporatist jingle back.

        • Bang-on!

      • Could you explain to us what the point of working 40 hours a week is if it does not get you ahead, and slowly increases your debt, even if you spend absolutely nothing on personal enjoyment, please?

    • You can’t force people to pay more for something then it is worth to them. You can’t expect people to hire teenagers with no job experience if you over price minimum wage any more than McDonald’s could charge $40 dollars for a Big Mac and still expect to sell millions of them. You want more poor and inexperienced workers to get jobs and foothold to climb out of poverty lower the minimum wage.

      • Obviously. After all, aren’t Americans clambering to Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Tennessee with there lowest-in-the-country minimum wages, in order to climb out of poverty?
        Let’s all live the Alabama dream!

        • Nice homes in Alabama are $120k, and would be worth $700k if in Toronto or Vancouver, I can get a roof repair for 1/3rd the cost in Alabama. Beef, pork, cheese and other foods are 1/3rd the price of Canada. Car and home insurances are a lot less, as is the cost of a auto in fuel, purchase and repair.

          You bet they can work for less and live better than we do. Isn’t how much you make, its also about how much does it cost you to live. And Canada is a tax inflated economy of debt, and why people need unreasonable wages to live here.

          But unreasonable wages also mean less jobs.

          I would be better off living in Alabama if I could get a green card. But that is hard to do as a domestic born law abiding Canadian. But you know Celine Dion isn’t coming back for the taxes of it.

      • Higher prices mean less people can afford them. That also means less people employed to make fewer goods.

        It takes almost no skill to work at McDonalds. They take otherwise useless people and give them a starting wage. I worked there once a long time ago, taught me about production of food, service skills and how money and business work, I then moved onto bigger and better things.

        I was born in a family of a single working mother and 4 kids, no extras, you could even say we were poor. No money for hockey gear or estras, if we wanted a bicylce we delivered newspapers, cut laws, shoveled snow…and became independent and money savvy at 10, not 30.

        I climbed from the bottom to a 2%er in one generation. To top it off, I have fought a disability for my entire life and you able people with brains turned off fail by your own choices. Never got a handout nor a hand up and I didn’t wait for government to manage me like chicken.

        I made it happen for ME.

        • You just said that people who work at McDonalds are useless. You are old and do not understand the present day economy.

      • This is a common sentiment repeated by people who don’t take the time to think about the issue.

        The $40 hamburger is a red herring.

        It would cost McDonalds only a few cents per burger to raise their wages considerably.

        Most people who work for McDonalds are not teenagers, they are adults.

    • Like every one else, you have to start at the bottom of the ladder, and work you way up,

      • Someone else is digging a hole for your ladder.

        • People are their own worst enemy.

          Wait for government at your own peril. I know lots of people in the 70s still waiting for government.

        • God that’s funny.

      • Thanks for the sage advice, grandfather!

    • Two faults exist. Too much governemtn takes too much money out of productive people leaving them with less money to drive the economy. The biggest cause. Even a home can be attributed to 50% tax driving up its costs as for the income/employment/property/utility/tariffs and hidden taxes you never heard of. This leaves people with less money to spend. A tax inflated economy of debt.

      Second problem is students are not picking the right skill sets. Society doesn’t need more useless politicians, lawyers, academics and consumption for nothing jobs like sexology. Society needs miners, engineers, doctors, dentists, electricians, plumbers, roofers, carpentry and people who add value and not consume it.

      We all share the blame as we accept that statism big governemtn is the only option our ballots no mater which party you vote for. As big governemtn is about perception, deceit and lies to get our money for their buddies and not for society.

      We vote for it in the ruse of democracy. Well conditioned to accept “bind faith” in the most expensive item in everyones life, government. And too dumb to realize, the more government gets the less the productive people get.

      • Thanks for your input, Mr Romney. Good luck in the election!

    • So get an education in a NEEDED skill, get a few years as a tax slave under your belt and then work offshore.

      I spent almost 12 years working outside of Canada. I got higher wages and less taxes with the added bonus of having worked in 4 countries.

      Don’t let governemtn screw up economics hold you back. Most Canadians are paid too much. The problem is we are a tax inflated economy of debt and need too high a wage to pay for taxes and our tax inflated costs.

      Its how I started in a poor family and ended up retiring early as I was working for taxes.

  2. Unifor economist………..Ha Ha Ha! What a joke!
    Try Uselessfor!!

  3. Anyone with an education and a work ethic can get a job.

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      • If it’s such a platitude why do we have so many people claiming they can’t find work?

        Look, has it occurred to you that attacking me doesn’t accomplish anything?

        • Some people complain about the difficulty of finding work because it is difficult to find work. Are you suggesting the 100-150 new orthopedic surgeons looking for work all have attitude problems? Maybe they did should have studied welding. Maybe they should suck it up and be a happy barrista until their ship comes in?

          • Ahh another commercial for private health care.


          • Missing the point and deflection is best left to the Rick Omens of the world. Are you studying to be a troll?

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          • Yes’m, I’ll just shuffle on back to the wood pile now.


          • Playing a victim one moment and slinging insults the next, who exactly is “your crowd”, underemployed youth displaced by cheap “temporary” foreign workers.

          • Try that again in English, please.

          • @emilyone:disqus “youre an idiot who argues with fallacies”

            is that english enough for you?

          • You’re still not making sense. Perhaps if you stopped interrupting, and lost the ‘tude?

          • I bet until this surgeon decided to strike out on his own and made news in the paper, no one imagined that this issue existed in Canada….immense waiting lists for surgeries and surgeons who can’t get hired to do the job. It is evidence that we have too much money devoted to administering a bloated system and not enough spent on actual healthcare work. We apparently haven’t got enough operating rooms or support staff to get the surgeries done in a timely manner.

          • But we have 100s of thousands of over $100k/year politicians, administrators and non-value added bureaucracy. No shortage for Libya replacement bombs, rusty subs, defective F35s…..or billion dollar union/politicians bailouts and wage increases.

            Its really about management an priorities.

          • I really doubt that. I really do. Or maybe there are 100-150 that want to intern as a orthopedic surgeons perhaps.

            In any case, it could happen as our society is bankrupt. Health care will be history in Canda in 10 years if politicians don’t do something constructive with the excessive costs.

      • In this case I have to agree with Emily.

        There’s an awful lot of entitlement type thinking going on among young people who have yet to learn that getting a job is about what you can offer the employer, and not the other way round.

        • And there is an awful lot of entitlement type thinking in the 55+ demographic too. Look at the second graph for a moment.

          I’ll bet your favorite song is “Hey You, Get Offa my Lawn!”. Mick Jagger might be flattered.

          Go shake your cane at someone else

          • And why I planned my pension in may name/account/control. This way government can’t screw me over like so many with blind faith in governemtn had. Me, I retired shortly after my 54th birthday as I am not going to let a Ottawa chair mushroom define, and redefine my pension after they get our money …. I always viewed CPP as a tax with poor returns on investment.

            Remember, how Ottawa screws seniors today is going to come around to you. Reality is and it was 30+ years ago, CPP is a bad investment and government will change their minds when it comes time to deliver on the false promises of statism.

            Since I planed my own retirement, I am not bound by generational or government greed any more.

            I am too busy laughing at those with too much blind faith in government to “shake my cane” and I do have a cane.

        • thats what the employer will say……..

    • Provided the education is in a productive value added field.

      Scoiety is bloated with BS, M(ore)BA, sexology, teachers, academics, lawyers, politicians and consumptive careers… but jobs abound for mechanics, electricians, millwrights, miners, dentists, doctors, roofers, plumbers, carpentry and jobs that create value and not just consumption.

      But everyone wants a consumptive “government” job. Isn’t going to happen as if government employed everyone we couldn’t afford to eat.

      • Enough with the partisan crap Dave.

        • Not crap, its reality. You get me any of the productive careers I mentioned, with just a year or two of experience and good work ethics record of employment, get them to Alberta and they will have jobs inside of 24 hours. And the jobs will pay more and tax less than Ontario/Quebec and other governemtn bloated socialism-debt provinces. Even Saskatchewan is the same.

          Send us consumptive non-value added career types, well, some jobs maybe but not many. Not everyone can be a over paid teacher, judge, politician or some consumptive low value job for the money.

          • Dave you are talking partisan crap like you always do, and nobody believes a word of it.

            In fact you just proved it by plumping for employees for Alberta.

            How much does Harper pay you to recruit? Because you’re doing a lousy job of it.

    • You are correct. However, the job pays ten dollars an hour. The average price of a home in Canada is close to half a million dollars. Now do some math.

      • Forget buying the home. That needs a better education and a better job.

  4. Funny. Unifor is partially responsible for youth unemployment because it is one of the driving forces for pushing business OUT of Canada. Between the unions, high costs of electricity due to McGuinty’s Green Energy, environmental fees and taxes, it makes no sense to manufacture in Ontario. Compare percentage of Government spending to GDP in Canada. We are barely better than Greece. Outside of mining, are there any bright lights in the Canadian job market? So the next time a politician says, we don’t need manufacturing jobs because we are a service economy, tell them it’s working because the only jobs available are part-time jobs that pay minimum wage with no benefits in retail.

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      • I guess you don’t live in Windsor, St Thomas, London, Guelph, Oshawa etc. and have an office or service job. I’m not making this up. I spent years working for Magna and the auto sector. You?

        • Yeah, I grew up in London and currently live in Sowesto near Windsor. My dad and brother worked in the auto industry.

          All of NA has been hit by de-industrialization….it’s not just Ontario. China has become the world’s factory floor. So it has nothing to do with what party is in power here. Nor will another party make any difference.

          We are nothing remotely like Greece.

          We also have thousands of jobs we can’t fill because we don’t have the trained people.

          Service jobs are 75% of the Canadian economy….it means doctors and lawyers and insurance agents and electricians….and anything or anyone that can provide a service.

          • Yes and no about Greece. Because BoC can electronically print money our economy will see less jobs and more inflation. But the net results of less for the people will occur. Here is Japan’s value of money and ours:




            Debt and currency based fraud economies of spiral debt see devalued wages, devalued incomes, devalued pensions and devalued standard of living.

            Media will not disclose it as it is politically incorrect to discuss reality, but Asia is now the worlds most prosperous and largest trading block. USA no longer holds this record as they have too much ponzi fraud debt and currency print going on.

            Also why I invest less in Canada and more aboard. Canada’s economic future is NOT bright.

          • The only thing you invest in is blatherskyte.

    • The problem goes Far beyond and is way deeper than all the pet issues here. People enjoy blaming their political devil of choice.
      Firstly, the truth is that in Ontario, three parties in a row made a terrible mess of governance. Bob Rae followed a tax and spend approach that focused too much on entitlements as opposed to investment. Harris’ tories SQUANDERED the boom years of the 90s by cutting taxes while keeping spending up. They should have instead re-directed the tax revenue toward Infrastructure investment and upgrades and payed down the debt. McGuinty’s government put some effort to making the education system more tailored to contemporary needs but he caved in to the Teachers’ union too much and frittered most of that money away on wage increases to already overly generous-paid teachers. He then started the completely frivolous program of all day kindergarten which may be an acceptable gimmick in booming alberta but IS NOT an acceptable course in a bankrupt province which cannot afford even its core social services. In summary, all the parties screwed up by frittering scarce money away on ideological whims instead of crucial infrastructure investments.
      Secondly there is an cultural attitude-of-entitlement problem where parents said “My special diamond farting perfect indigo child will never have to do menial physical work and should immediately be worshipped by the entire work force”. The result was every person and their dog flocked to university. Guess what we cant all be lawyers, judges and bank presidents.
      Thirdly, I have personally looked into a career in the trades and the problem is not that young people won’t work at them, its that tradesfolk will not hire apprentices because they’re reluctant to risk putting up the money. One step in that direction would be more public investment in streaming students into the trades. And before you accuse me of sounding like a socialist, that would amount to a hell of a lot less government money than is spent on the dead-end university system. And it would actually get people into a job where they could pay taxes.

      • LOL Three political devils of choice, and several ‘pet issues’

  5. The deplorable state of education in Canada is finally coming home to roost. Grade 12 grads who can’t read or write properly, who can’t handle rudimentary math without a calculator. Our so-called ‘educators’ have failed us. Their experimenting (practicing social engineering without a license) from new math to open classroom to no exams to no-competition have resulted in a generation of semi-literates without marketable skills.

    • Today, a BA is entry level. Grade 12 means manual labour if you can even find any.

      It has nothing to do with teachers or ‘new math’ or anything else. High school doesn’t, and never did, give you any marketable skills.

      • If you are conflating skilled trades with manual labour, emily, you are barking up the wrong tree. You need to stop making value judements between plumbers and professors although I know which one is more important when my pipes freese. It was the skilled trades that got Toronto back on it’s feet after the ice storm – not the red suspender set. Not much manual labour around anymore, it is done by machines operated by skilled trades people. As for entry level jobs – someone has to do them so stop denigrating the honest labour of such people

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          • there are plenty of jobs in the skilled labour trade that certianly cannot be replaced by machines, and to compare that rate of conversion to that of actual manual labour jobs is another ignorant fallacy of an argument

          • Perhaps you could look up ‘fallacy’. Oh and ‘manual labour’.

            Mmmm and knowing something about robotics would help.

            Now try the word ‘civility’.

          • Hardly, my skills were with my brains, hands and was skilled labour. And after collage, a few years to learn the real world ropes I made good money there after. While I took university, it was college that gave me the good life. University was too much bout please the prof brainwashing….and I graduated both.

            And for part of my career, I engineered and programmed those robots. Good money at being good at engineering, installing and programming robots. Is a good career choice.

    • Seriously. The propaganda is vomit-worthy; everyone is entitled to have their dream job and live in a solid gold castle. Well no actually, at any given place in time and history there is a certain labour market which must be respected. So yes for each of us there are job fields we would prefer over others but we need to drop this idea that there is a dream life for all of us where we can fart rainbows. As MoreCents points out the current education system is ruining young people by filling their heads full of expectations which can never be acheived and churning out a whole generation who will be tormented by longing for a life which does not exist. And yes the “educators” on the government gravy train are a bunch of ideologues whose poisonous ideology is not being investigated and held to democratic scrutiny. So yes: “the world does not owe us a living, we must do a job the labour market will pay for, the job is not our dream but we can make that job better by improving how we do it and how we interact with our co-workers” all sound unpleasant but it would give our young REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS and allow them to BUILD CONSTRUCTIVE LIVES. The reason you call a spoiled child SPOILED is because it SPOILS their character and does no favour in the long run.

    • But they raises a good crop of “blind faith” in government types. They actually want government to take their liberty and treat them like chickens. Big government false promises is all they know.

  6. Solution: More taxes of course.

    • Yep, more taxes so people have less to spend on other peoples value added jobs.

      Keeps people working poor and working hard to pay more taxes. Like economic slaves of state as the largest cost in any productive persons life is taxes.

      You earn $100, $40 to income/employment taxes, $10 to property/utility taxes, $23 for carbon and fuel taxes to get $27 of tax out fuel to go to work to pay more taxes. Government benefits more than you do.

      Or beef or cheeze. You earn $30, pay $15 to income/emplyment/proprty/utility taxes then in the $15 of cheese there is up to 283% tariff so the tax out price for cheese is about $6. So for $30 of effort, you get $6 of product. And if it isn’t tariffed cheese, Saputo and family enjoy the high prices as that is high profit. Similar happens with beef and other foods, and why shopping USA is lower prices, less tax greed.

      Most expensive item in any productive Candians life is government, as governments benefits more than you do. Its why Harper and other ssay it “costs government” as you are economic property of government. It really costs consumers and taxpayers, but government views it as it costs them. Think about that. As we are economic slaves of deceptive statism state.

  7. Wow, according to this chart there’s a drop in the employment rate from 63% to…62%, what an awful record. Just kidding, it’s very marginal.

    I suspect the drop in 15-19 year old employment is due in part to the Temp Foreign Workers Program, in which we recruit adults from thousands of miles away so we can pay baristas and grocery clerks $10.50/hr instead of the $12/hr we would pay teens and not have to pay an extra nickel for our coffee. It really is an awful program and it hurts the lowest income cohort the most.

    The $7.25/hr I made at Loblaws as a teen 26 years ago = $12.83/hr today.

    Additionally, relatively few under 25 have recession proof public sector jobs, which helps explain why they’ve fared so badly compared to adults. It’s perhaps more indicative of how private sector workers have taken it hard while Team Gravy Train made out like bandits.

    While Professor Gordon is entitled to his opinion, which I am totally convinced is genuine and not at all partisan, Statistics Canada paints a very different picture of youth unemployment in this report: (pdf) Unemployment Dynamics Among Canada’s Youth.

    tl, dr: unemployed youths find work much faster than adults.

    -28.1% of unemployed youths have never had a job,

    -‘young people are more likely than unemployed adults to find work’

    -‘79.4% of youth who became unemployed were no longer unemployed less than three months later. In comparison, that proportion was 67.6% for workers aged 25 to 54 and 70.6% for workers aged 55 or older’

    • Change Gordon to Kirby, I saw a sketchy economic analysis and assumed it was Gordon, my bad.

    • Exactly, the temporary foreign worker program is a game in which certain employers keep youth at part time employment and game the system for permanent cheap labor. Why is an unneeded fast food industry given any precedence on this program.

  8. Move where the jobs are. That’s what I did.

    • Yep, best places in Canada are Alberta and Saskatchewan.

      Years ago now SK ditched the NDP and their BS economics, got a more conservative government and is now the only province in Canda with a surplus!!!

      That means lower taxes going forward as SK joins Alberta in the lower tax arena. Lower taxes means more and better jobs. Where unemployment is low, employers have to treat employees better too.

      But the liberal-socialist parts of Canada still believe in false promises and pigs fly. Like my friends I left in Ontario in 1980, they are still waiting for government.

      • Oops on “the only province in Canada with a surplus!!!” Seems that the Cons in Sask were just conning us–the “surplus” was actually a deficit hidden in the “other” financial report.

  9. No one should take any job for less than $20/hour FT. Part time, ask for more. Nobody, never. That is my personal minimum wage. Otherwise I get just as much sitting at home on disability.

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      • Yes, but it gives you a chance to take college evening courses, develop skills and learn more to become more valuable.

        But far too many rack up credit card debt for iPads, TVs, booze, pot and party themselves into debt slavery.

        Freedom includes the personal responsibility to use it wisely. For those failures that want to be government chickens, it comes at a price, loss of freedom and liberty.

    • So much for you motivation…..

    • Depends on the skills. You are paid on what it takes to replace you. No shortage of unskilled people with poor job holding skills.

      Its why manufacturing has gone offshore as $20/hr in the world market is stupid high priced and non-competitive.

      But to defend the low end worker, we have a tax inflated economy of debt, and really can’t work for much less than $20 an hour.

      But they vote for the problem. they vote for more tax inflated government. Yet do not realize its governemtn making this economic mess in the first place, and why it would be naive to think more government can fix anything.

  10. As a business owner, I am tempted to Avoid hiring someone that spends MY time on his or her smartphone texting and twitting and etc. I have mostly 55 years old plus working for me, and I DO not need to hold their hands.

    • Statements like that are why young people blame the “selfish entitled boomers” for a lot of their problems. So anyone under 55 is going to be a poor worker? You do realize that is a ridiculous generalization right?

      • Exactly, blame the others for your problems, in the meantime not much gets accomplished!

    • Then it is you, the business owner, who should be mandating a “no-phone during working hours” policy.

      • You have to be joking, when it comes to texting ot twitting, some people don’t respect the LAW of the road when it says to not text and drive, let alone an employer,

    • Those young people will be paying for your cpp and your medicare. You should be nicer to the people you are using as bank accounts. You’re lucky those young people are too stupid to catch on to the way your generation has been using them. You wouldn’t want them to catch on at the wrong time.

      • I can take care of my own, thank you. I just don ‘t sit there and blame everybody else for my problems, as I don’t rely on cpp or healthcare, for my future,

        • You don’t rely on health care? Fascinating. I guess you intend to live forever. Good luck with that.

  11. Taxation, tax inflation and devalued money have left productive people too little value to drive the economy any more. There isn’t going to be jobs for us all as we are too busy supporting governemtn children and governemtn dependents consumption and not our own.

    Who spends more? Retired with a million getting fair rates of interest on money that is at or above inflation for a $50k/year retirement or the retiree with a million of depreciating money and a $10k/year income as interest rates are negative value?

    Spend so much on dental visits where government taxation is 1/2 the cost as people who work need twice the income to offset the tax loads….high prices to us soaking up all the cash.

    Then costs. Inflated costs for meat, cheese, many foods, housing with lots of taxes in them to build and maintain, excessive debt loads….leaves people with less value money to drive jobs. Even get tariffs and duties on food and clothing or the poor, disabled, retired and vets….just a tax greed screwfest.

    And people wonder why there are no jobs for younger people. Its because other people don’t have the left over money to get goods and services that could employ them.

    But hey, we have big government funding their buddies.

  12. Man, some of these comments are so stupid.

    I pulled myself up by the bootstraps. Put myself through school while working full-time, got grades good enough to earn me a bursary from the government. I got a contract position, and put in so much hard work for _4 YEARS_, waiting to get hired permanently. Instead of hiring me, they laid me off.

    Now I am 29 and I’m starting over at the bottom again, and am nowhere near being able to start planning for a future. I am onto another corporate contract job, and who knows what my future will look like.

    There is no stability or long-term future for so many people in my age group. Our parents had homes by this age; we are unable to maintain jobs even if we work harder than our parents were ever expected to. Longer days, taking our work home on our iDevices, etc.

    And while this is my reality, so many baby boomers have had these long, cushy careers with benefits I could only dream of. And they think they have a right to tell me to try harder.

  13. People have no money to help drive other peoples jobs. Governemtn gets it all in income/employment/property/utility/HST and hidden taxes most people don’t even know exist.

    When I spend $15 on a KG of cheese with 283% tariffs and protectionism, when Americans spend $6 for the same item, the $9 difference isn’t spent on other peoples jobs. Its aborbed by billionaire and government, the corrupt Canadian socilalist-statism way.

    With our total (all taxes) non-value added tax loads being amongst the highest in the world, not much left for the people.

  14. What the article is not addressing is the never seen before large scale attack on unions and worker’s rights. This year, Canada passed bill C4 which takes away the right of workers to refuse dangerous work and gives the employer the discretion to decide what is hazardous or not. It also gives the federal government the liberty to decide what is an essential service and what is not. In other words, what workers have a right to strike or not.
    The weakening of unions means bad news for everyone. Let’s not forget that Kellog closed in London where workers were unionized and kept another plant open in Ontario were workers are non unionized. This sort of disgusting tactic sends a very clear message to their workers: don’t form a union if you want to keep your job. And all that happened with the approval of our conservative government.
    It seems to me that Canada is on its way to win the race to the bottom!
    In Ontario Tim Hudak wants to implement a “Right to Work” legislation in order to kill unions. Once unions die, you will see employers pushing back on wages and working conditions. Obama said it right when he said that “Right to Work” means “right to work for less money”.
    I think that this was a huge part of the problem that was not even touched by the article.

  15. Some metro regions are worse than others, but general bad across Canada. Read the comments on, (Victoria BC section), Yahoo Answers, and other web sites. The jobs economy is not good in Canada. People are over educated, in debt, and unemployed or underemployed below their skills. This caused wages to be even lower while living costs are every higher. This will crash the society eventually. Everyone and their dog has college and university pieces of paper that is expensive and worthless. Eventually you will need post secondary education just to pump gas, work retail, fast food, or be a cleaner and security guard. Post secondary education is just a money debt milking ponzie scheme. You have debts and still no job.

  16. Few realize the automation aspect that is changing the employment landscape.