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Conservative MP says government could make short-form census optional

PMO spokesman quickly shoots down idea


 

This year’s mandatory short-form census could be the last of its kind, Conservative MP Rick Dykstra told a local newspaper in his riding. In an interview with the St. Catharines Standard, Dykstra said the provision requiring Canadians to fill it out could be eliminated. “We’ve already changed the long-form census so that it is not mandatory and that is, frankly, the road we are going with the short-form census as well,” Dykstra said Wednesday. “I frankly don’t think this is the sort of thing a person should be penalized to do.” PMO spokesperson Dimitri Soudas was quick to distance the government from Dykstra’s statements Thursday morning, telling Reuters reporter David Ljunggren, “The short form census will remain as is.”


 
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Conservative MP says government could make short-form census optional

  1. Eliminating any component of the census is foolish. The information that StatsCan collects is valuable to government if they care to do any long term planning. Furthurmore, census data is valuable to anybody interested in demographic information for any purpose. Making the long form optional was a mistake, doing the same to the short form would be ineptitude.

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  3. Why not have another long form census that is manditory for 20% of all people in media/reporting every time, with threat of jail or huge fines if they don’t honestly answer it?

    Then we could finally know how much media bias there is compared to average canadian? If CBC is much more biased to a political party then average, then makes sense to cut subsidies as money to them would be an unfair subsidy to a political party.

    As well we should have census on sexual activity so we can track the dangerous of sex diseases.

    Perhaps one on different activities related to little boys so we can track pedophiles.

    Census long questions are fun and in public interest!

    • so David2 make a short census for everyone, and we decide whatever we want so that what does not fit the conservative agenda gets cut and what does gets included, that is the best recipe for social tension and public uprise, I think the reform party (conservative) does not understand democracy and that they are there to serve the Canadians not to serve themselves. I am still amazed that the western Canadians do not get it as well by still voting en mass for them. Religious extremist of any kind have been proven to be a bad idea at all time and everywhere in the world and by electing Harper that is exactly what we are getting.

  4. You can thank the Liberals and NDP for this. This is what you get when you have politicians who care more about themselves and their political brands than you do about uniting behind a progoressive political philosophy.

    The egos of the Liberal and NDP party resulted in vote splitting, which led to the election of a Conservative government that a large majority of the county voted specifically against.

    The result is that we are now governed by a party who thinks that the best way to avoid information that could be interpreted in ways they consider disadvantageous to their political ideology – is to reduce the amount of information collected.

    Same-sex couples living together and successfully raising children, for example, don’t exist from a public policy perspective if the data is never collected.

    • Even if the vote split happened , 60% of Canadians are still saying that we do not want it, so if Harper does it, I certainly hope that Canadians will get organized with social medias helping and get the message clear that it is not acceptable, and if they still go ahead with it despite protest, they should be thrown out of power by the governor general.It is his job to do so if the Prime minister is not complying with the wishes of the Canadian people.

  5. I always find it amusing how conservatives like David2 act all manly and tough, then cry like little girls about how the mean old biased liberal media is mean to them.

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  7. Will the media cover similarly new ideas come from the new teenager MPs in quebec? If you give such coverage to ideas of a single person, why are you surprised if the leaders clamp down on their MPs?

    From story: PMO spokesperson Dimitri Soudas was quick to distance the government from Dykstra’s statements Thursday morning, telling Reuters reporter David Ljunggren, “The short form census will remain as is.”

  8. “I always find it amusing how conservatives like David2 act all manly and tough, then cry like little girls about how the mean old biased liberal media is mean to them.”

    Ad hominem attack, see Carl Sagan’s baloney detector kit. I personally do not like extreme bias for *either* political side in media.

    I think both sides have good ideas and bad idea.

    IMO if a news source is publicly funded, it should have obligation to try to stay reasonably unbiased, otherwise is a government subsidy to a single political side. Election coverage from CBC was often pretty bad, eg they had a survey after election which was greatest event of election: had NDP gaining seats, Green getting a seat, but did *not* have option for conservatives gaining majority.

  9. On issue of bias: I watched SUN newsworld coverage for first time last night as only one I found location of streamed over internet. Found it surprisingly balanced overall… pundits for every political side got equal airtime, editorial comment had some that felt pro-conservative but to balance that the coverage of speeches was much better for NDP than Conservatives… NDP TV camera gave clear picture of video presentation and lots of airtime without any distraction while Conservative TV camera was very poor picture, unable to see any of the slideshow presentation)

    They had conservative guy at conservative headquarters, and a girl that seemed to be happy NDP favouring reporter in NDP headquarters.

    I very rarely watch TV, I have not seen attack ads for any side as result, my impression from Ig’s speech is he was still missing why he lost… Telling people not to cry, liberal party has deep roots and will for sure be there 20+ years in future, etc sounded like mushy political talk that wasn’t that honest, rather than anything solid. IMO would have been better to admit, yes it hurt, ok to cry a bit if you need to but sunshine comes after rain, and need to work to fight to survive for whatever they thought was important would have worked better, seemed more honest.

    Parties that dominated similar to liberals *have* died in past, a professor who studies history should know that

  10. (On census, my first comments were ironic to show how all sorts of forced “long form” census can be “useful”, but still be objectionable to some. Most of people would not want 20% of media forced every census to go into extreme details about their political bias for example, even though we spend 1 billion tax dollars a year on CBC, and much other money on other media)

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  12. @David2:
    The CBC is as unbiased as is possible. It’s head is assigned by, and reports to, Parliament and must swear and oath of impartiality. It has a set of Journalistic Standards & Practices it must abide by that include accuracy, fairness, balance, impartiality, and integrity. It has an independent ombudsman who’s job is to ensure it sticks to those standards, and it has periodic independent reviews by external journalism experts to evaluate bias, which continually show none.

    All of the evidence is against you. CBC is not biased. Your personal perception is not data. To right-leaning people, anything that is centrist will be to the left of them by definition so very likely seems biased. That’s why independent auditing is necessary.

    Note that unbiased does not mean that a position is never presented one way or the other. It means an equal opportunity is made for all sides to present their case. Unbiased also doesn’t necessarily mean neutral. For instance if one party always lies and another party always tells the truth, reporting the truth accurately will tend to attack one side more. I’m not saying this is the case, but even this can’t measure bias. (Audit reviews actually do show CBC neutrality.)

    I keep hearing about this CBC bias from the right. All assertion, no data. All data says otherwise. So what does the right do? Suggest that the data is biased of course. Classic “cult” behaviour. If reality disagrees with your perceptions, reality must be wrong.

    To turn it around, what data would convince you that CBC is not biased?

  13. The “Tea party” is to the south eh, you missed the election you wanted by one country.

  14. Last night I filled out the Canada Census on line. When asked to make a comment, I regestered my objection to the elimination of the old long form. My comment was SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! Years of gathered data on which important future beneficial decisions could be made are now rendered useless due to the lack of continuity in the established form of gathering and interpreting data. Mr. Dykstra’s comments represent a glimpse of what is to come.

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