Quebec and students: worse than you think

Patriquin: there’s a normalcy to all this Gong Show-iness

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As we approach the three-month mark of the student strike/boycott/study-stoppage/what-have-you, relations between both sides could hardly be worse. An agreement in principle between the Charest government and the FEUQFECQ and CLASSE was roundly rejected by the students themselves, and we’ve already seen the fallout: the daily marches have for the most part resumed, much like the caustic rhetoric from both side as each accuses the other of bad faith. Yesterday, the entire Metro system was shut down after a coordinated smoke bomb attack.

Perversely, there’s a normalcy to all this Gong Show-iness, as though demonstrations, riots, street closures and metro shutdowns are part and parcel of  the coming very long, very hot summer in la bête noire province. Just like periodic language tiffs. Just like rampant corruption in the construction industry. Just like eye-bleedingly horrendous Éric Lapointe videos. (I warned you.) Ayoye.

And as bad as it is, the situation is actually worse than it appears. That’s because the government has, in the last round of negotiations, allowed the student associations a say over how the universities spend their money—a power the student associations themselves won’t likely relinquish in the future.

Though it was scuttled by the students, the deal hashed out last week will likely serve as a blueprint for  any settlement between the students and the government—which will come some time in the next year, Inshallah. It includes a clause by which an ”interim council” is set up to examine university expenditures, and apply the savings (if any) to a corresponding reduction in student fees, up to $125.

Notably, the counsel was to be made up six university rectors/presidents, four student representatives, four union people, two people from the business sector, one CEGEP rep, one ministry rep, one president and, while we’re at it, René Angelil, Sol the Clown and the ghost of René Lévesque.

This needlessly complicated clause—a good Quebecer would dismiss it as a patente, or ‘thing’was put into last week’s negotiated settlement as a way for both sides to save face. In so doing, the government has created a fearsome precedent that threatens to undermine not only this round of student/government negotiations,  but future ones as well. First off, it’s difficult to see how, once they’ve sat at the table with the rectors, unions, business leaders and government, the students would ever relinquish the perk. Essentially, there is nothing to prevent the student associations from insisting on such a council every time government raises the spectre of tuition fee increases. And rightfully so, if you ask me: no one likes to give up power once it’s been in one’s hands. Of course, Students are now fully aware of the cudgel they can wield if things don’t go their way. It’s a matter of calling a strike and waiting for the tear gas to rain down.

Secondly, the premise of the council is itself antagonistic and counter-productive. The rectors and principals of Quebec’s universities unanimously claim that the system is underfunded; conversely, the student associations say university administrations are money-wasting spendthrifts. According to the FEUQ, universities could save upwards of $300 million by cutting wasteful spending. (There’s a lovely irony here, which Fagstein pointed out in a Tweet somewhere, how lefty groups like FEUQ and CLASSE trumpet cutting government waste as a solution.) Yet in most cases, what is crucial and what is waste depends entirely on what side of the table you happen to be seated.

For instance, is spending $80 million over five years on things like board banners at the Bell Centre a great way to attract new clientele? Or is it a “colossal waste of public money”, as CLASSE pithily put it? Is spending $8.6 million on satellite campuses, as Université Laval has done, a business-savy way of responding to a recognized demand amongst Quebec students? Or it is it a frivolous expense, right up there with McGill University president Heather Munroe Blum’s $16,000 vehicle allowance?

I haven’t a clue, but clearly CLASSE does: the group wants to cut ban universities from advertising, institute a moratorium on new campus construction, and tax the banks. Take a wild guess what the “or else” part of the equation is.

Clearly, university priorities and administrations are subjects worthy of debate, but by creating this “interim counsel”, which will likely be anything but, the Quebec government has essentially ensured they will be hashed out under the threat of more protests. It has mandated that a gun be put to its head every time negotiations roll around. We’re in for many long, hot summers, I’d say.

Quebec and students: worse than you think

  1. Is that an article or a bad joke.

    Doesn’t matter, I guess americans are laughting at your poorly written piece of dirt right now.

    You are only looking at what you want, and totaly resizing and exagerating elements to fit your narative.

    When was the last time you attended university. Did you at least complete a master degreee, or coveted a PhD.

    Do you know the inside work, how many professors do you know. Do you know how the funds are allocated. Do you know the %composition of student in the different grades.

    Do you know for instance that higher grade on serious speciality have an abnormaly high concentration of foreigners, who usually return to their country – often China – and they they are charged a ridiculous bargain of 3x the quebecer cost, which basically means our society pay to hand over high level diploma to rich kids from other countries. (you don’t think Hu Jintao is sending abroad peasants, do you, of course he only send abroad sons and daughters of the party)

    The real cost to form an engineer, doctor or scientist is much higher than that, which make the whole student fee problem ridiculous and pointless. You can NEVER ask student to cover that gigantic fee, and neither should you, because it’s the corporations that end up with the patents and royalties while the students do ever longer studies for ever lowr salaries – competition demands it.

    Always the excuse of global competitions.

    If instead we get creative, corporations always upgrade their equipment which could allow them to lower the university costs by giving away their used equipment. with the current profit margin high tech corporations make , this is no big deal

    Why don’t you stop spitting non sense and ask Bill Gates his opinion on the matter.

    By the way, Quebec tuition may seem cheap until you compare the cost of living between Montreal and Toronto and their assorted salary disparity

    Bet in all your ignorance you didn’t even figure that one out.

    That’s what happen when an illiterate try writting an article

    • Dude, your reply isn’t much better. I know you have French as a first language, but it’s somewhat hypocritical to say he’s illiterate when your own post is full of grammar and spelling mistakes, and sometimes is difficult to understand as a result. Et avant de me dire que je ne serais pas capable d’ecrire une telle chose en francais, laisse-moi te repondre que oui, j’en serais tout-a-fait capable…

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