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Baird: If Keystone is rejected, we will try again

Canada’s foreign affairs minister insists Canada will pursue the pipeline project


 

Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said a rejection from the U.S. government on TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline will not deter Canada from trying again, iPolitics reports. Rumours that the U.S. State Department would announce its decision to shoot down the proposed pipeline surfaced just as Baird was stressing the importance of moving forward on the Keystone while addressing the audience at a Canadian Club event in Toronto. “If at first we don’t succeed, we’ll try again,” he said when questioned about the emerging reports. The Washington Post reported earlier today that TransCanada would be able to reapply if it presents a new proposal that contains an alternate route that avoids Nebraska’s delicate sandhills.

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Baird: If Keystone is rejected, we will try again

  1. I guess the Koch brothers don’t like failure.

  2. Environmental  activists are totally deluded if they think their actions will shut down the Canadian oil sands. Oil is already being extracted there and used. That will continue, as the oil sands are vast and their valuable oil is needed and wanted around the world,as well as in Canada.

    The question is rather whether or not Americans will lose secure access to an enormous long term source of oil from their safe and friendly neighbor, Canada,  The other half of this is whether or not Americans will have the lucrative job of refining this Canadian oil.

    It might be more cost effective for Canada to keep its own oil for itself, and refine it in Canada. Let it happen slowly. Then Canada can keep the heat on longer, when the rest of the world’s supply is depleted. Let the Americans and Chinese freeze in the dark. While they are at it, the Canadians should also protect their huge fresh water supply from falling into American and other foreign hands, as that resource will also become more scare.

    Our primary global problem  is the unsustainable, dramatically and exponentially increasing,  rise in human population. Pollution, and depletion of resources, are only spinoff subsets of that overpopulation problem.

    Extinction is the normal historical outcome for such out of control population growth, as demonstrated by other species on this planet.
     

  3. I didn’t realize Baird worked for Enbridge.

    • Exactly Dan Calda!

      I guess he is just ‘firming up’ his post-political employment situation. It’s not like Canada has anything else going on that would merit a foreign ministers attention, at least not a conservative foreign minister.

  4. Oil sands oil is indeed dirty, but it is less dirty than coal – which is the substance Americans will burn more of as a result of the Keystone XL decision. This is a perfect example of optics trumping sound policy. Why not approve Keystone XL, and use the added revenues to fund alternative energy? 

  5. A carbon price is useful.  A key concern is whether low footprint substitutes exist, can scalably exist.
    I see three big points of inflection.  Utility scale power banking.  Vehicle batteries/cells.  Peat moss land use.
    1) There are many potential batteries.  Isn’t clear to me how scalable Li-ion is, if is 100M or 2B cars.  Also Nickel air, and hydrogen to a common (forgotten) acid.  Most mature and probable of above inflections.  Is 25% of emissions.  Probably be dropped to higher single digits if scalable battery.
    2) USA had a Nov. power banking Bill claiming not to pick favs.  This actually did pick favourites as picked most mature tech: pumping water up to later run down.  Only feasible where water and often hydro here.  Compressed air is presently inefficient.  Batteries and fuel cells seem like the only *scalable* solution capable of banking TWs or whatever.  Is a Vanadium demo.  Shear size of project demos must make R+D tough.  Might not get these batteries any time soon.
    3) It may be possible to sequester cut trees in dug out bogs, then cover them and hope methane and CO2 don’t leak fast.  Hope water table is maintained.  Might be easy to afforest sphagnum fuscum.  Latter is small, tens of MT/yr median.  Former project might not work or might only work well with distant GMO wood.  But potential is out of this world.

    The more of these that work, the higher the carbon tax should be.  Why aren’t oil players positioning for these future industries.  Oil will go down with crop failures.

    • sry for multipost.  Perhaps TCP should submit the next application in pieces (but all at once) so the State Dept USA will at least partly take a look at the proposal next window of time?

      Wow.  There already is GMO of lignin content in wood.  But to reduce it for pulp industry.
      Other big levers too.  Fake meat like from mushroom proteins will curb Chindia GHGs and pandemics if no dual use.  Mosquitoes.  Bears.  Trench collapses.  Great.  I heart Canada.

      • thank you pulp and paper industry.  But I like magazines better.  They are resold cheap; I’d buy a biz section like that, esp one with stock quotes like old.  Macleans mag is small dimensions and fits nicely on urine puddle in my washroom.

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