Canada to Palestine: forget UN statehood bid

Baird urges Palestinian leaders to restart direct talks with Israel

by Alex Ballingall

As one Palestinian official noted Monday, Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird can be a frank, straight talking man. “There’s no mistaking where he stands,” he told the Globe and Mail.

No kidding. Baird and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty are currently touring Israel and the West Bank. On Monday, the duo met with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, Prime Minister Salam Fayyad and other senior Palestinian officials, where they expressed Canada’s opposition to their bid for recognition as a sovereign state by the UN. Baird reportedly called it “profoundly wrong.”

The foreign minister also lined up in support of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, telling the Palestinian leadership he believes they should return to peace negotiations with Israel without any preconditions. For months, Palestinian leaders have refused to hold direct talks, pointing to the construction of Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory. According to the organization Peace Now Israel, the rate of settlement construction in the West Bank jumped 20 per cent in 2011.

Baird added Monday that, “whether it is rockets raining down on Israeli schools, or the constant barrage of rhetorical demonization, double standards and delegitimization, Israel is under attack.” He went on to frame Canada’s unequivocal support for Israel as a brave move that flies in the face of dominant anti-Israeli sentiment amongst the international community. Clearly, Baird is working to entrench Canada as one of the world’s most unbending supporters of the Israeli government.

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Canada to Palestine: forget UN statehood bid

  1. Typical!

  2. That man does not speak for all Canadians, Israel is under attack are you kidding me?
    And Palestine is just in-correctly receiving all those aid packages right?  Perhaps if Israel stopped sending them on precision airstrike’s the Palestinians could have some form of life.  Oppressed people fire the occasional rocket into the state of their oppressor and they are the monster.  The real question is why are they shooting in the first place? The answer is because Israel is systematically trying to eliminate Palestinians off the map, irony is horrific.  

    • You obviously know nothing about the situation because if you did you would not be making such silly statements.

      • You know nothing about the situation, each time Israel has a chance they answer to a slap with 32 hits with a baseball bat wrapped in rasor sharp barb wire

        • Israel faces existential threats from Muslims. Do you face such threats?

          • Yes, from idiots like you – useful idiots. Unfortunately, Israel is a terrorist state.

    • You sound like you only read comments and not history. Maybe you should stick to hockey.

      • listen, Jews during WW2 faced the holocaust. move on already, they are living in the modern time where they have won their freedom and the Nazis are gone, their oppression is gone and they have a country to call their own, which happens to be in a strictly Muslim country (Palestine) for reasons i don’t know. and now that their living space is too congested they are slowly taking Palestinian by force,  even an american died trying to stop Israeli soldiers from knocking down a house of key individual in Palestinian territory, not a Palestinian soldier but a doctor who was treating the injured people in his neighbor hood. 

        • look up Rachael Corrie

        • PREACH!! Makes no damn sense how these Israelis are trying kick out those millions of Palestinians from their own land. When Israelis made a home in the land of Palestine.. It makes no sense.

    • Well said Edward

    • Occasional rockets? you must be kidding…Isreal gave them Gaza with  homes greenhouses..a great opportunity to start business and make something of themselves. what did they do? destroyed everything. Take a trip to Isreal Flannery and you’ll have an awakening. What that little country has accomplished in it’s few years of existance is unbelievable, Of course Jews never win do they?

      • Considering they get over 2 billion a year in direct aid from the US, its not surprising.

    • Well said Edward!!!!

  3. Bravo to Mr. Baird for taking a clear stand in supporting Israel!

    • Yes, I am sure it will make the Jewish lobby groups happy and keep the money coming to the CPC

  4. Couldn’t be prouder of Canada with its staunch support for Israel.

    • People like you make me ashamed of being a Canadian

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        • Ah, and there’s the issue: you can be against the unproductive behaviour of the Israeli government and not be an anti-Semite. I fully support Israel’s right to exist in peace, but they’ve got to come to their senses, stop the settlements and allow freer movement and goods into the Palestinian territories. This intransigent stance Bibi takes is going nowhere fast. 

        • It’s disrespectful to Judaism to think that criticism of a political entity is criticism of an entire religion.

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  5. Here we go again…Israel is always the victim!! Mr. Baird, you are grossly incorrect…ALL CANADIANS DO NOT support Israel! We watched the twin towers go down and still no REAL investigation into those “Dancing Israelis” who were taped jumping with joy over the fall the twin towers! So guess who the real terrorists are?

    • What news reels were YOU watching, Feinstein?? I saw Palestinians dancing in the street, burning the U.S. and Israeli flags. They were also chanting “Death to America”.
      Who blows themselves up in order to kill innocents? Who considers murderers martyrs?
      Now you answer . . . whose the real terrorists?

      • Maybe you should walk a mile in their shoes to see why they’re doing that. These things don’t happen in a vacuum.

        • They’re doing it because they’re Muslim.  They live in Gaza where instead of money going to infrastructure, they spend it on killing their neighbors. 

        • No matter how far I would walk in their shoes, I would never cheer for the death of anyone. Killing and death is their mindframe. 

      • the Israeli Irgun poisoned wells in order to expunge the people who understandably did not want to leave their homes..

        Ironically some of those same jewish terrorists sit in the Knesset – the Israeli parliament.

        Google
        Irgun, its a real eye-opener. They bombed the King David Hotel and
        killed many British servicemen. Real nice people. Jewish religious
        extremists and nationalists – also known as Zionists. 

  6. Check Baird’s passport, it might have a few stripes and a few stars on it. Might as well be on their payroll as well!!

    • Thats funny. Oh he is getting money alright, from Canuck zionists.

      • That’s not funny and not true.

  7. Canada & the U.S. should press the Palestinians to show Israel in their school textbooks. Right now, Palestinian children are learning that there is only one country called Palestine where Israel is. These kids are taught to hate. Israeli children, on the other hand, are not taught to hate Arabs because they hope for peace in the near future and don’t want a population that hates their neighbors. 

    • Thats because before ’48, there was no such thing as israel.  There was palestine.  VivaPalestine

      • Read a history book . . . Before ’48 there was no Palestine either. It was Trans-Jordan. Britain, who was in charge, offered land to both Israel and the “palestinians”.
        Israel accepted, the palestinians did not. Viva the only true democracy in the area!! Israel!

        • yeah, and then the Israeli Irgun poisoned wells in order to expunge the people who understandably did not want to leave their homes..

          Ironically some of those same jewish terrorists sit in the Knesset – the Israeli parliament.

          Google Irgun, its a real eye-opener. They bombed the King David Hotel and killed many British servicemen. Real nice people. Jewish religious extremists and nationalists – also known as Zionists.

      • You don’t have a clue.

      • In 1169 king richard the lionheart left on a crusade to a place called palestine. He reported his arrival in palestine. King richard’s intention was to slaughter lots of people living in palestine. I expect those living in palestine were called palestinians.

        • Nice historic reference. Never mind the idiotic trolls with their typical insults.

      • Back in ’48, there were no countries in the Middle East. So they drew lines in the sand. There were always more Jews in what was then British mandated Palestine, so they got that part. The Arabs got the part on the other side- Jordan. First day, the Jews got up and offered their hand in peace to their neighbors and the Arabs got up and started the war. 

        Then they lost. Then they tried again in ’67 with all the neighboring countries and again they lost but this time, Israel occupied their part. According to international law, if you lose your land when you start a war with the neighbors, it’s not yours anymore. Therefore it’s not considered occupied but we call it disputed.

        However if the Muslims have 22 countries, let them take their Palestinians and settle them there. But no, they must stay on to fight the Jews/Israelis. Just as Israel has absorbed 500,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands, let the Arabs take and settle theirs.

        PM Jean Cretien offered to absorb all the Palestinians here in Canada. But they refused because that would defeat their purpose.

        I’ll bet if the Arabs weren’t always threatening the survival of the Israelis they could have put more money and manpower trying to solve mankind’s problems like Cancer, MS etc. So far we have lots of great scientific breakthroughs from Israel but who knows how much we could have achieved.

  8. When was the last time a palestinian rocket hit an israeli school??  All these politicians keep mentioning rocket fire hitting israeli civilians and homes when there has not been an article written saying such things since the Gaza war.  Yet, every day almost there is a plestinian home that is bulldozed to make way for an israeli settlement.  its funny how a such a weak, feable country (not even a country yet) is demonized for pretty much trying to defend themselves.  Its quite funny actually as that is the new socialogical, economic war tactics that are mentioned in the protocols of Zion.  You must make your enemy weak, mentally unstable and force him to fight back.  and when they do, make them out to be the aggressor. Some people are too blind to see, some people just dont want to see, and some people just plain stupid to see the truth.  Not rocket science folks.  It should be obvious who the aggressor is in this case.

    • Like your moniker you have the intellect of a rock. The protocols of zion? Next you will be quoting mein kempf. 

      • David, you and the Israeli right – the settlers and religious fundamentalists – will be on the wrong side of history.

    • What kind of psycological goobl-dee-guck is this!? What is the “protocol of Zion”??
      Is that a book? Or something from your imagination. Perhaps upholding western idealogy (i.e. democracy) is what is causing all the confusion to the palestinians. You are spewing nonsense. Israel has built one of the top countries in the world. What have the palestinians built since they got Gaza. Nothing. Even with millions of worldwide donations, all they have is their blood lust for Israelis. No businesses, no hospitals, no schools, no infrastructure. They wouldn’t know what to do with their own country. They only know how to cry “foul!” and cry about  The jealousy is obvious!

    • Well said. Never mind the braindead sociopathic trolls.

  9. Stop kissing Israel `s ass for pete sake
    enough is enough

    • There will never be enough support for the state of Israel, the only democracy in the middle east where arabs are more free than in any arab country.

      • WOW, talk about delusional. Are you a JDL troll, for all you do is spew lies and falsehoods.

  10. Dear All,

    It is unfortunate that the Mr Baird should be presenting this perspective. He does not reflect the will of the international community.

    There are over 150 UN Resolutions, the ruling of the International Court of Justice pertaining to the illegal ‘separation barrier’ (supported by the EU), the Road Map (2003) which demanded Israel end all natural growth settlements, plus the recognition of Palestine by 130 nations in the world which include India, China, Brazil, Russian Federation, Malaysia, Indonesia and South Africa, not forgetting Thailand and Iceland recently. One should not forget that Palestine’s UNESCO bid was successful supported by France, Spain, Eire and Norway. Moreover the Vatican does not accept Israel’s claim to the Arab East Jerusalem or any of the Palestinian Territories.

    Palestine like Israel has a right to dignity but that does not mean UN Resolutions are ignored. Settlements including those in East Jerusalem are illegal and a violation of the 4th Geneva Convention. Ensuring a two-state solution is paramount but Mr Netanyahu’s rejection of US President’s 1967 lines was disappointing and reflected someone who has now commitment to resolving the conflict between the two peoples based on international legitimacy resolutions.

    God bless

  11. For all you Jew haters, read it and weep.

    Way back on March 31, 1977 the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with the Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said.

    The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about about the existence of a Palestinian people, since arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

    For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claim to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even one minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

    • So what? The fact is, in the last 35 years, a Palestinian polity and government has evolved. Yes Palestinians can be fanatically hateful, but that doesn’t mean the Israeli government is right. And again,  criticism of the government of Israel ≠ “Jew hater.” You do a disservice to Israeli citizens by making that false equation. 

    • All you Jew haters? Grow up, child. You can only play the anti-Semite card for so long before it becomes meaningless. This is legitimate criticism of Israel, not some deranged racist ranting.

      You are a fascist that supports killing Palestinian children. There – how’s that for constructive discussion?

  12. Dear All,

    It
    is unfortunate that the Mr Baird should be presenting this perspective.
    He does not reflect the will of the international community.

    There
    are over 150 UN Resolutions, the ruling of the International Court of
    Justice (supported by the
    EU) pertaining to the illegal ‘separation barrier ‘ (which is 3 times the length of the Berlin Wall), the Road Map (2003) which demanded Israel end all natural growth
    settlements, plus the recognition of Palestine by 130 nations in the
    world which include India, China, Brazil, Russian Federation, Malaysia,
    Indonesia and South Africa, not forgetting Thailand and Iceland
    recently. One should not forget that Palestine’s UNESCO bid was
    successful supported by France, Spain, Eire and Norway. Moreover the
    Vatican does not accept Israel’s claim to the Arab East Jerusalem or any
    of the Palestinian Territories.

    Palestine like Israel has a
    right to dignity but that does not mean UN Resolutions are ignored.
    Settlements including those in East Jerusalem are illegal and a
    violation of the 4th Geneva Convention. Ensuring a two-state solution is
    paramount but Mr Netanyahu’s rejection of US President’s 1967 lines was
    disappointing and reflected someone who has now commitment to resolving
    the conflict between the two peoples based on international legitimacy
    resolutions.

    God bless
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    • Submit it as many times as you want, it’s still unpalatable. 

  13. The peace process broke down because the Israelis would not recognize the 1967 borders as a starting point for discussion.  the 1967 borders were of course recognized by the highest court in the world (ICJ).  I blame the media for the fact that canadians are so poorly informed on this issue.  The Conservatives would not be able to employ an immoral policy if reporters provided the facts to the canadian public.  

    • The  blathering of the Jew haters knows no bounds. Reality is beyond their ability to recognize it. All they want is the death of all Jews. It blinds them to truth. 

      • Hey TROLL, get an education and a like.

      • David, project much?

        So you support killing children in Gaza? Just curious.

  14. Baird, you only speak for yourself…not us Canadians! We do not support any kind of criminal activities and those Zionist Israelis conitnually committ crimes without punishment!
    I also don’t know if your capacity allows you to learn about history, but you may recall a prominent Rabbi in Israel that publicly stated that as a religion, they do not view any non-jews as humans. They believe that any non-jew is only this earth for the purpose of being a slave to them!
    Sounds like the kind of people you wanna support!!!!????

    • Your silly lies sway no one. No “real canadian” would spout the lies that you spout. I suspect that the last thing you are is a “real canadian’.

    • I AM A REAL CANADIAN, and what you post RealCanadian is basicly the truth, the israeli troll know as David, seems to be out of touch with reality. If anyone is spreading lies its the likes of him. No surprise there. Typical braindead blather from the likes of the terrorist group JDL

  15. Palestinians are the
    newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a
    single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole
    history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist
    that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting
    against:

    “Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a
    Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of
    the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we
    considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of
    the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag
    and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.

    • Unfortunately the Jew haters don’t want the truth. Their hatred of Jews colors everything. 

      • Perhaps if Jews would act like all other humans and stop their brutality on others, they may be viewed positively. But they only do what ever they want and run around the world murdering people and assassinating them and causing many many problems! Maybe you should go with all the jews and colonize Mars!

        • I did not hear that Canadians signed up to be members of the master race. Perhaps Realcanadian [sic[ can enlighten me as to how this happened.

      • @ REAL CANADIAN Funny how the Jews were mocked throughout their tenure in Europe as being a weak, meek, people of the book averse to hard labor and an easy target for bullying, pogroms and ultimately the Holocaust beset them. Perhaps you should read up on your history before you draw such baseless conclusions that reveal you to be arabasque rather than “real Canadian.” And BTW “jew” is spelled with a capital “J”

        • Nice racist comment. Typical.
          REALCanadian…now that is s good comment.

          • Racist my ass

            Judaism is a RELIGION not a RACE

  16. Baird is lining Canada on the wrong side of history. This decades-long conflict is a shameful reminder of what a failure the “international community” has been. Israel accelerated their settlement activity in retaliation of Palestinian bid for statehood at the UN…abducting and killing elected officials in Palestinian territories, invading Lebanon and targeting UN schools and hospitals, how can anyone not see this horrific crime carried out in the name of Israeli security? Sickens me.

    • God in Heaven.  May Nuna not be a school teacher!

  17. Oh Canada, a true zionist bootlicking country. Just look at our media, including Macleans, braindead and idiotic when it comes to the ILLEGAL enclave know as israel.  It wasn’t enough to get snubbed by the world community at the UN because of our insane position on Palestine, now we have this stupidity.   One would think the whole sale slaughter of Palestinians by israel isn’t happening. Taking into account recent events, the insane massacre known as ‘Cast Lead’, the assassination of Turkish nationals in international waters, bombing civilians, assassinations, terrorizing,these are just a few acts of ‘crimes against humanity’, so one has to wonder what planet the idiot Baird is on.
    I am embarrassed to be called a Canadian with this current group of corporate fascists occupying Ottawa, and I am sure it only get worse from here.
    Anyone studing history knows these so-called isarelis are just eastern european savages, brought into the Middle East by a group of sociopathic Bankers. 
    Canunkistan’s position on Iran is also idiotic, bordering on absurd.
    Now the corporate stooge PM is coming back to Canada, after getting his orders in Davos, to wipe out the middle class in Canada. First our ‘rights’ were sold to the US, now we are going to be headed to the poor house. A great number of people in BC are already there thanks to the corporate LIEberals, now we are going to get it from both ends.

    • I know in my heart that you do not believe one word of what you wrote.  Unless, of course, you are a bearded, fat idiot.

  18. The anti-Palestinian Conservative policy is an embarassment to canadians.   The Likud Charter (Netanyahu’s Party)  states that Israel will not give up any land west of the Jordan River.  This is just as bad as the Hamas claim to create a state from the mediterranean to the Jordan River.  (Hamas is softening its stance by the way.) Netanyahu and his partry deny the right for a Palestinian state to exist.  The media never shines a light on the Likud Charter though.The Israeli Foriegn Minister, Avigdor lieberman, was arrested for assaulting a child, champions denying citizenship to Arabs from other countries that marry Israeli Arabs, and has called for the execution of Arab Knessett members who TALK to Hamas.  Lieberman is anti-democratic.  Lieberman also promotes a peace plan that ethnically cleanses Israeli Arabs from Israel.  I think people who forward the argument that we Canadians should support Israel on account that we have shared values are quite simply delusional.

    • It looks to me that you have transposed Arabs with Israelis. Kind of like saying the rooster laid the egg. Most Canadians would not fall for your line of disinformation.

    • the Israeli Irgun poisoned wells in order to expunge the people who understandably did not want to leave their homes..

      Ironically some of those same jewish terrorists sit in the Knesset – the Israeli parliament.

      Google
      Irgun, its a real eye-opener. They bombed the King David Hotel and
      killed many British servicemen. Real nice people. Jewish religious
      extremists and nationalists – also known as Zionists. 

  19. John Baird should learn to redirect his lies back to his ass.

  20. GAZA AUSCHWITZ: THE ISRAELI AND AMERICAN THIRST OF PALESTINIANS CHILDREN´S BLOOD. ISRAEL and UNITED STATES HAVE GIVEN BIRTH TO THE WORLDWIDE TERRORISM, ETHNIC CLEANSINGS AND WAR CRIMES.

    YOU PALESTINIANS, ARABS and MUSLIMS, It is TIME to KNOW the ENEMIES of a PALESTINIAN STATEHOOD, The ENEMIES of PALESYINIANS, the ENEMIES of ARABS, THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM, THE ENEMIES OF HUMAN RIGHTS, The ENEMIES of JUSTICE, the BAPTIZED in SPIRITUAL PROSTITUTION, The CHRISTENED in IMMORALITY, The GODFATHERS of LEGAL TERRORISM, The CRISADERS of BLOODSHEDDING, The HOLY EARTHLY TRINITY of the TERRORIST IDEOLOGY, THE CREED of the THEOLOGY of VIOLENCE and the CATECHISM of the BLOODTHIRSTY ORGIES, The HOLY SPIRIT of GAZA AUSCHWITZISM and the FOOTSTEPS of GENOCIDAL ZIONISM. DEATH to the UNITED STATES and to those ARABS, MUSLIMS or CHRISTIANS WHO SUPPORT the TERRORIST POLICIES of the UNITED STATES OF ISRAHELL. BIN LADEN has gone away to a PEACHEFUL WORLD in the PARADISE, while OB “S” AMA is still on LIFE, leading the WORLDWIDE ZIONIST TERRORISM and WAR CRIMES against the THIRD WORLD. ISRAEL is a TERRORIST, NAZI and GENOCIDAL STATE. What does that CANNIBALISM make the UNITED STATES of ZIONISM? It makes the INCOHERENT EMPIRE a MACRO TERRORIST, A MACRO NAZI and a MACRO GENOCIDAL STATE. IN TERRORISM; NAZISM and GENOCIDES WE THE AMERICANS BELIEVE, and WE ARABS and MUSLIMS BELIEVE in GOD, LOVE, JUSTICE and PEACE.

  21. ZIONISM = ISRAELISM = AMERICANISM = WESTERNISM = RACISM = FASCISM = HITERISM = BUSHITERISM = CHRISTIANISM = EXPANSIONISM = COLONIALISM = IMPERIALISM = HOLOCAUSTISM = AUSCHWITZISM = CHRISTIAN ZIONISM = CULTURE OF DEATH, IDEOLOGY OF LEGAL TERRORISM AND THEOLOGY OF VIOLENCE.

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