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Colonel accused of double murder tries to kill himself

Russell Williams used mustard to write his suicide note


 

The former commander of CFB Trenton—now an accused serial predator and double murderer—tried to take his own life over the Easter weekend. According to sources at the Quinte Detention Centre in Napanee, Ont., the alleged killer used mustard to write a suicide note on the wall of his jail cell, and then tried to suffocate himself by stuffing tin foil and cardboard down his throat. Williams also used foil and cardboard to jam the lock in his cell, but guards managed to bust into the room and “rescue” him while he was still breathing. The 46-year-old is now on 24-hour, one-on-one suicide watch. His next court appearance is scheduled for April 29.

Kingston Whig-Standard


 
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Colonel accused of double murder tries to kill himself

  1. I hope he doesn't get another chance for a suicide attempt. I prefer to let justice run its course and questions surrounding this case be answered in court so others can have closure in their lives.

  2. Good work by the guards. Not only were they on the ball, they avoided the awful "well he deserves it, let's leave him to die" mistake that is sometimes made.

  3. Has he confessed yet? It would be a pity not to get the details of what he did to his victims. Other than that, no great loss.

    • He's innocent until proven guilty. Do you really want to live in a police state where assumed criminals are simply executed? Are you really that comfortable with writing off people as unworthy of living?

      • so long as it is someone else, someone he doesn't care about it, sadly I pressume he prob is Sean.

      • "Do you really want to live in a police state where assumed criminals are simply executed?"

        How does "executed" have anything to do with it? He was trying to commit suicide.

        • Allowing a prisoner to kill themselves is more or less a passive form of execution. At any rate, I speaking to the more general sentiment that accused killers should probably just be killed.

          • Fair enough. I assume you'd also be opposed to letting innocent people kill themselves then, since passive execution of an innocent person is worse than passive execution of a confessed murderer, yes?

          • Nice try. :)

            I'm going to stick to prisoners for the time being, and state that they should all be prevented from hurting themselves.

          • So, allowing a prisoner to kill himself is a passive form of execution and should never be allowed, but allowing anyone else to kill himself is completely different. Got it.

          • How about: people who are in state custody should not be allowed to kill themselves, for a wide variety of reasons I really hope I don't have to list, while people who are out walking free deserve a wider latitude for their personal actions, including perhaps suicide?

          • I see. So it's not that passively executing him would have trampled on his rights, it's that passively executing him would have allowed him a right that criminals don't deserve. Forfeit your freedom, and you forfeit the right to be passively executed.

            Of course, he hasn't been convicted yet. Should we really be taking away his personal rights like that? Never mind, I'm sure this also is completely different than taking away any of this other fundamental rights while he awaits trial.

          • Okay, I guess I do have to list them.
            – faith in the ability of the correctional system to keep people alive while in custody would be eroded
            – faith in the guards — who would be theoretically capable of "arranging" suicides — would be eroded
            – any benefits of the legal process — closure for victims and/or families, further information about the crimes (or other crimes), the perpetrator being directly confronted with their actions by a group assembled to represent society's conscience and principles — would be lost with each successful attempt
            – potential opening of a new and different set of legal issues for the corrections officers and/or institution
            – the increased likelihood that, although in regular society those who attempt suicide unsuccessfully would be receiving medical attention regardless of the legality of their attempt, those in custody (especially for serious crimes) would not receive this same treatment — "who cares, it's not illegal to kill yourself, and they probably were guilty"

            And I really don't care how much money Corrections Canada can save taxpayers by letting guilty, judged-guilty, or probably-guilty inmates die.

          • Ok, let's apply those same objections to "passive executions" outside a prison:

            – faith in the ability of the medical system to keep people alive while in care would be eroded
            – faith in the doctors – who would be theoretically capable of "arranging" suicides – would be eroded
            – the benefit of the organ donor process – willingness of people to sign up knowing that their organs won't be "donated" unless they're actually dead – would be lost with each successful attempt
            – potential opening of a new and different set of legal issues for the medical officers and/or institution
            – the increased likelihood that, although fit members of society who attempt suicide unsuccessfully would be receiving medial attention regardless of the legality of their attempt, those who are disabled (especially ones with valuable healthy organs) would not receive the same treatment – "who cares, it's not illegal to kill yourself, and their organs probably saved a healthier life"

            And I really don't care either how much money can be saved by letting people die. It just makes me chuckle when I see people here who are so gung-ho to save murderers from their own hand, and at the same time so willing to let innocent people off themselves. Either it's a "passive execution" as Sean calls it, in which case it's wrong for inmates and invalids alike, or it isn't….in which case no one on this thread seems to have a coherent reason for not allowing it.

          • Coherence is in the mind of the perceiver. I think it's demonstrably a very different issue, I will let you continue in your belief that it's essentially the same issue in different settings, and we can both probably agree that our laws and national political dialog aren't up to the task of dealing with either situation. Deal?

          • Sean was mistaken. It's not a passive execution, it's a failure of an obligation to society.

          • You're (somewhat, at least) correct, insofar as suicide attempts *in hospital* are concerned. Each successful suicide in hospital does erode faith in doctors, the hospital psych ward professionals, etc. The problem with this argument is that most inital suicide attempts outside a prison *don't occur under anyone's care.* So a 'free person' attempting suicide erodes faith in…what? Himself? His own mental stability?

            Also, suicide doesn't particularly punish a criminal; if it punishes anyone, it punishes his (innocent) family.

          • Turn it around.. allowing anyone to walk around free is completely different from allowing a prisoner to walk around free. Obviously it is.

            The reason is that the prisoner, or accused, has a pressing responsibility to society in helping to determine if the breaking of society's order has been properly addressed. Until that is fulfilled, then no, a prisoner does not have the same rights as someone not accused of a crime, and yes, those rights may include the ability to commit suicide.

          • This marks the second perfectly rational response I've seen from Thwim without any gratuitous insults thrown in. My universe is beginning to warp.

            Right, so back to the point. As I understand it your argument is that there's a pressing societal good to be gained from preventing inmates awaiting trial from killing themselves, namely a nice tie-off to the case. That's fine as far as it goes, but (1) does that mean that convicted inmates can be allowed to kill themselves? and (2) this guy confessed – there's not much doubt that the "breaking of society's order has been properly addressed."

          • Hm. That's actually an interesting question. My gut says, "yeah, once convicted, who cares what they decide to do", however there's a point of view that would suggest that the serving of the sentence itself, is also part of the duty the person owes to society, and thus allowing them to kill themselves does not fulfill that.

            As for the 2nd point, that should make the trial fairly quick, but until that happens, it remains open. False confessions are not unheard of.

          • Yep, I'll buy that on both counts.

            I don't agree with Sean that allowing someone to kill themselves is a "passive form or execution", but I do think that assisted suicide is an active form of execution which we should not be engaging in. That, however, is a discussion for a different thread and a different day.

          • I'm in favour of some type of assisted suicide law or guidelines or whatever so that those who want to end their lives have that ability; the main condition would be that there "is no hope". And I wouldn't prevent prisoners who have been sentenced to life (where life means you will leave the penitentiary in a pine box) from making use of the assisted suicide provisions. To be clear, though, Colonel Williams would still have some hoops to jump through before he could "qualify" for those provisions.

            While I recognize that you might not want to get into a "dance" with G at just this (or that) moment, I would have guessed that you have somewhat similar ideas…feel free to clarify.

  4. I know I'm a broken record on this, but I'm astounded by the lynch mob mentality held by so many. It's such a childish response.

    • agreed both the lynch mob part and the complete lack of compassion or empathy. i just don't get it.

      • Burn the witch! Heh. Kidding.

  5. While it is only right that families should obtain the proper closure that might come with the information revealed at a trial it is hard to condemn the so called lynch mob comments. We have seen time and time again the workings of Canada's justice system. Court trials that take years to complete, cost millions of dollars and end up with frustrating results because defense lawyers manufacture technicalities that end up with criminals either walking or getting minimal sentences. Certainly this last development sets the stage perfectly for the insanity defence. I have to join the lynch mob on this one, too bad he wasn't successful in his attempt, he certainly was successful in ensuring he will be judged not responsible for his actions in relation to the murders.

    • What do you mean by "manufacture technicalities"?

    • I don't find it difficult at all to condemn the lynch mob comments, because lynch mobs are pretty nearly always wrong, and even on the occasion they're maybe sorta right, they're driven not by a recognition of the need for justice but by emotional thirst for vengeance.

      Revenge jollies don't improve a justice system, whether it's a good or bad system to begin with.

  6. To Sean,

    You're an idiot. Colonel Mustard made the decision to unlawfully take the lives of two innocent people. He does deserve to have his own life taken.

    • He hasn't had a trial yet. And what benefit comes to us from killing killers?

      • do u think he should walk the streets again?

    • "He does deserve to have his own life taken."

      Whether he does or not, that decision is neither his nor the prison guard's to make. I'm not surprised that he doesn't realize this but I'm very glad the prison guards do.

  7. It's unfortunate the colonel failed. From the time of his arrest onward, our government will spend millions of dollars on the accused's legal fees, care and protection. It would be quite courteous of the Colonel to put an end to himself and save our system the millions of dollars that are currently being spent on him and will continue to be spent for as long as he is alive.

  8. I am disgusted from this lowrise. Personaly for me there is no need of justice! He better to disappear from this world so taxpayers like me should not waste their money for this one in jail.

    • "Personaly for me there is no need of justice"

      Remember that, should you ever find yourself wrongfully accused of something…

  9. There are two words that are an appropriate response to the Colonel's suicide attempt. LET HIM!!

    No one tried to kill him. That, of course, would be a crime and no better than what he did to others. Someone who is innocent would not try to kill himself. Nuff said! Lets save our legal process resources – goodness knows the Canadian Taxpayer doesn't need to pay for a long drawn out trial.

    • Yes, suicide is such a supremely rational act in all cases. Nobody who didn't commit a crime would ever admit to having done so either.

      And "Let 'em die" is not an ideal solution for helping balance Canada's excel spreadsheet, for reasons I really, sincerely hope I don't have to list, even though the last time I said that I had to go back and list them.

  10. To bad he didn't get the job done and saved the cost of a tril and this pice of dispicable scumm would be dead and burried like any useless trash.

  11. support our troops

    • screw you jim, what a comment to make on a story like this.

  12. he should be put in general pop. and let them do to him what he did to marie and jessica and those other victims

    • Well.. there you have it folks. Judgement by linda. I was unaware we had an omniscient among us who is able to know, before a trial or presentation of evidence, exactly who is guilty of these crimes.

      I suggest that Canada could eliminate it's deficit by firing all of its judges and lawyers and simply hiring linda. Obviously she knows best.

    • Justice would be served.

  13. i dont think he could be classified as a serial killer. i think that some people just pissed him off and he was very capable of killing people.

  14. He obviously didn't try hard enough!!!!! Try harder next time, come on, we know you can do it. He knows we, the public know he is being charged with two murders and two sexual assults; I think he is trying to take the cowards way out, so it won't be revealed exactly how many he has killed or raped; come on, does anyone really think those are the only murders and rapes he did? What are the chances that he got caught on the ONLY 4 crimes he committed?

  15. This is just another policeman ,fireman,politicion .In a position of power and abusing it …thier jobs have become boring to them so they're addictions take over .Its a shame people in power positions are not monitored ?This deviant was allowed to do these terrible things and nobody knew about his msterious backgroung ??? That I cant believe !Someone knew of these things !You know who you are !

  16. I would love to see you suffer, you no good bastard!! When you die you will BURN IN THE FIRES OF HELL!!!!

    • Strange how many people here revel in the idea of another human being suffering! How ironic!

  17. Choking on tin foil and cardboard is too easy a way out for this sicko…..have fun in jail colonel…..don't drop your bar of soap in the shower……I hope they have a good time with you in jail!

    • My only thoughts on this story are 1. How terribly sad I feel for the victims families and 2. Does anyone on here CARE about them enough to not discuss this and to be respectful and shut your mouths?

  18. This American democrat believes a partial fitting sentence for this inhuman non mammalian monster would be life in prison in a solitary condition with slightly less heat than a comfortable condition with guards directed to not speak with him and he should be fed tasteless bland barely adequete food, not of his liking. No reading material would be allowed nor clocks, radios or Television. He would not be provided any information regarding time as the lights would be on 24/7. No visitors. From a distance, photos of his parents and wife would be provided but only at such distance that he could not quite identiy them.
    The key, no pleasurable sensory input allowed. A very long useless life in solitary. He deserves far worse. If this can not be accomplished, execute him with no fanfare. If you Canadians don't have the stomach for this, I would help you.

    • Contrary to USA, torture is not institutionalized in Canada, yet…..

    • Unfortunately, your wish to see another human
      being suffer, and even offering to do the job yourself, is part of the same
      strand of inhumanity that drives serial killers. The only difference is that you haven’t acted on your sadism.

  19. He did’nt manage to succeed because he didn’t want. This is suicide attempt is part of his plan to get attention and be separated from other inmates. He is smart enough to succeed if he realy wants.

  20. I am amazed as a usa citizen that the government of Canada paid to have his floors refinished. I think his wife should have been charged with something. I believe she is narcistic herself. I think this whitewash of her as a victim is a horrible insult to the murdered victims and their families. She must know somebody at Mccleans. I think all serial killers wives are aware at some level things aren’t right and willfully ignore it to preserve their status quo.

  21. PLEASE — somebody — explain to me why that police woman who saw Williams’ Pathfider that night in the field behind Jess’s home hasn’t been held to account — Jess Loyd may very well still be alive if that inept so-called cop had done her job. Why in the world didn’t she follow up — knock on Jess Loyd’s door — see whose vehicle that was — Williams was probably in there at that very minute, killing Jess Lord. Why no follow up on this inexcusable lack of action on the part the police??????

    • Police are not accountable for much of anything.
      Over paid with not the best workers for the job.

  22. should have let the pervert choke.
    Not worth saving.

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