Conservatives push to limit findings of Afghan torture report - Macleans.ca
 

Conservatives push to limit findings of Afghan torture report

Report due on whether army cops ignored suspected abuse of prisoners


 

The Conservative government is ramping up efforts to circumscribe into allegations of torture involving detainees in Afghanistan. The Military Police Complaints Commission investigation has been looking into whether military police ignored suspected abuse while transferring prisoners to Afghan authorities, and the Tories argued in Federal Court last week that its final report should leave out evidence from witnesses like Richard Colvin, a former diplomat based in Afghanistan who testified in 2009 that his superiors ignored repeated warnings that detainees faced serious risk of torture after Canadian soldiers placed them in Afghan custody. The federal government already argued in 2009 that the military watchdog’s findings should be limited to what military police knew or could be reasonably expected to know, with success. Now they are pushing to narrow the definition of what the military police should have known to include only information military police would have physically possessed, instead of what they could have found out by asking questions. They want to exclude testimony of diplomats like Colvin, and civilians who didn’t work at the defence department, and any files they have documenting or warning of torture and abuse.


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Conservatives push to limit findings of Afghan torture report

  1. The same people who send the brave men and women to fight and die in wars and who are only too anxious to see them tried for misdeeds are unwilling to expose their own complicity in what may be War Crimes. Oh yes, Mr Harper you wrap yourself in the flag and use the military as a prop for your political and personal aggrandizement but as usual, you are determined to cover your own backside by suppressing the truth. You shame Canada, the Canadian people and especially the men and women of our military.

  2. The same people who send the brave men and women to fight and die in wars and who are only too anxious to see them tried for misdeeds are unwilling to expose their own complicity in what may be War Crimes. Oh yes, Mr Harper you wrap yourself in the flag and use the military as a prop for your political and personal aggrandizement but as usual, you are determined to cover your own backside by suppressing the truth. You shame Canada, the Canadian people and especially the men and women of our military.

    • What brave men and women? What dying in wars? You mean the commanders who think you can walk on water and landmines? The whining from the military tells you its not Harper that shames canada, but its own make believe forced bilingual military. More Americans killed in a MONTH, in real fighting, then in 10 years, by the make believe canada! The canadian military is only there to take the heat of off that great American protector, not to do any actual fighting of which they are incapable of! We now send our best to Fort Bragg to train and fight With the Americans!

      • What commanders have been killed in Afghanistan? Apparently you unlike most Canadians value the lives of the soldiers and are grieved by the loss of over 150 of them. They also want those who have been wounded properly cared for when they return to Canada. As to what happened to the detainees, that was a political decision, So let those who made it take responsibility for it. Harper has been skulking around since this became an issue and this is just his latest attempt to escape his involvement.. If Canada had no say in what happened to the detainees, iy has no business being there,

  3. The Chicken Party of Canada, proudly standinghiding behind our armed forces.

  4. The Chicken Party of Canada, proudly standinghiding behind our armed forces.

    • Same as standing behind a mosquito net! Unless your talking about the NFLD or western forces!!!!! We all know that!

      • Too cold under your bridge tonight, was it?

  5. What the article doesn't mention is the excuse the govt law dogs are using, get this: It's a violation of the detainees privacy rights!
    This from the same lawyer [?] who previously argued that the commission couldn't see docs cuz they were national secrets, and in the very same breath further added he had seen them and they were of no importance anyway. I believe the commissioner hurt his jaw at that moment when it inadvertently collided with his desk.

  6. What the article doesn't mention is the excuse the govt law dogs are using, get this: It's a violation of the detainees privacy rights!
    This from the same lawyer [?] who previously argued that the commission couldn't see docs cuz they were national secrets, and in the very same breath further added he had seen them and they were of no importance anyway. I believe the commissioner hurt his jaw at that moment when it inadvertently collided with his desk.

  7. The Harper government excuses get more bizarre every day.

  8. What brave men and women? What dying in wars? You mean the commanders who think you can walk on water and landmines? The whining from the military tells you its not Harper that shames canada, but its own make believe forced bilingual military. More Americans killed in a MONTH, in real fighting, then in 10 years, by the make believe canada! The canadian military is only there to take the heat of off that great American protector, not to do any actual fighting of which they are incapable of! We now send our best to Fort Bragg to train and fight With the Americans!

  9. Same as standing behind a mosquito net! Unless your talking about the NFLD or western forces!!!!! We all know that!

  10. If one had any brains at all, one would never be in favor of the present Muslim, over our Prime Minister! The stupid excuse of liberals, preferring the cruelest regime you have ever seen, over our Prime Minister. May the majority of us never get that pathetic. And may you idiots start reading, without liberal blinders.

  11. If one had any brains at all, one would never be in favor of the present Muslim, over our Prime Minister! The stupid excuse of liberals, preferring the cruelest regime you have ever seen, over our Prime Minister. May the majority of us never get that pathetic. And may you idiots start reading, without liberal blinders.

    • Since when did conducting yourself under International Law and the Geneva Conventions become a Liberal or Conservative thing? Not only do Harper's excuses get more bizarre every day but so do the posts of his "Harper right or wrong" supporters.

  12. More evidence of the arrogant, control freak dictator wanting to hide from the light of truth. The sooner the Tories get rid of Harper the sooner the public will consider giving them a majority.

  13. More evidence of the arrogant, control freak dictator wanting to hide from the light of truth. The sooner the Tories get rid of Harper the sooner the public will consider giving them a majority.

  14. What commanders have been killed in Afghanistan? Apparently you unlike most Canadians value the lives of the soldiers and are grieved by the loss of over 150 of them. They also want those who have been wounded properly cared for when they return to Canada. As to what happened to the detainees, that was a political decision, So let those who made it take responsibility for it. Harper has been skulking around since this became an issue and this is just his latest attempt to escape his involvement.. If Canada had no say in what happened to the detainees, iy has no business being there,

  15. Since when did conducting yourself under International Law and the Geneva Conventions become a Liberal or Conservative thing? Not only do Harper's excuses get more bizarre every day but so do the posts of his "Harper right or wrong" supporters.

  16. To think this is the same government that is pushing to implement tougher sentences for those that commit violent crimes. Yet they themselves are the one’s bending the legal system in such a manner that it would give mafia defense lawyers a good name.

    Great demonstration of leadership and accountability Prime Minister Harper.

  17. To think this is the same government that is pushing to implement tougher sentences for those that commit violent crimes. Yet they themselves are the one’s bending the legal system in such a manner that it would give mafia defense lawyers a good name.

    Great demonstration of leadership and accountability Prime Minister Harper.

  18. Too cold under your bridge tonight, was it?

  19. He is inept, incompetent and basically dishonest. He figures if he can hide things long enough we will lose interest. Do not count on it Stevie.

  20. He is inept, incompetent and basically dishonest. He figures if he can hide things long enough we will lose interest. Do not count on it Stevie.

    • Even the medical system and the Pharma system try and hide information from the statistics Canada stated illiterate Canadians! How lucky I was to have went to school in the age of " not everybody is equal", period of reality. Now if your marks are higher then the brain damaged student beside you and learned in some one else's language, you are a real success. At serving coffee in both official languages using a automatic money calculator till. Praying it doesn't break down! lol

  21. Even the medical system and the Pharma system try and hide information from the statistics Canada stated illiterate Canadians! How lucky I was to have went to school in the age of " not everybody is equal", period of reality. Now if your marks are higher then the brain damaged student beside you and learned in some one else's language, you are a real success. At serving coffee in both official languages using a automatic money calculator till. Praying it doesn't break down! lol

  22. You would have thought, with all of that wonderful education, you might have learned how to costruct a sentance.

  23. "You would have thought, with all of that wonderful education, you might have learned how to costruct a sentance" lol
    Or how to spell two eh? lolol Um not very costructive

  24. "You would have thought, with all of that wonderful education, you might have learned how to costruct a sentance" lol
    Or how to spell two eh? lolol Um not very costructive