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Deep oceans may mask global warming

Water absorbs enough heat to flatten global warming rate, study says


 

According to a new analysis from the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research, Earth’s deep oceans might absorb enough heat to flatten the rate of global warming for up to a decade, even during a longer-term warming period. The new study says ocean layers deeper than 300 meters are the main location of “missing heat” during periods like the past decade, in which global air temperatures didn’t show a major trend. The 2000s were our planet’s warmest decade in more than a century. But the year with the warmest global temperature, 1998, wasn’t matched until 2010, even though greenhouse gas emissions climbed during that decade. The new study suggests the heat may have been building up in the ocean.

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Deep oceans may mask global warming

  1. there are obviously no depths that won’t be plumbed by these desperate snake oil salesmen.

  2. In the 1930s and 40s there was very warm global temperatures that turned
    the American midwest into a dust bowl, then the temperatures started to
    drop. They dropped so far that the media announced the scary monster of
    Global Cooling in the 70s after 30 years of cooling temperatures car
    emissions and smoke stacks and man made pollution were to blame
    In the 1990s they said we should be afraid of Global warming after just 20 years of warming.
    Then they changed the name again to ‘Global climate change’ around 2002 because it wasn’t so warm anymore.

    How
    about this for a more likely explanation, there is a global cycle of
    heating and cooling, it’s not even that long about 25-30 years.
    We’ve
    peaked for heat and we are heading back down to cooler temperatures now
    and we have been for a few years already. And studies like this are
    just trying to collect money directed to global warming research, even
    when the results no longer show warming. 

    • All sounds great, with one minor problem.

      We’re not actually cooling. And we weren’t cooling for the past 30 years or so, even as the sun was in a cool period.

  3. I am at a loss for words to describe how utterly pathetic these folks are getting.

    “But the year with the warmest global temperature, 1998, wasn’t matched
    until 2010, even though greenhouse gas emissions climbed during that
    decade.” 

    That couldn’t possibly be because CO2 doesn’t cause warming now could it?

    • So you’ve got some sort of proof that goes against the physical properties of CO2?

    • Don’t they make reporters take statistics classes?  Aren’t you supposed to disregard the outliers when calculating a mean, unless there is a very good reason for not doing so?

      Besides, it’s not the change in mean that’s the danger in GW models, it’s the change in standard deviation.  Wild weather and precipitation fluctuations, increased storms, unusually short or long growing seasons.

      There are three big problems in the debate on this subject.  The political nature of the research, wilful ignorance and denial on a large part of the population, and terminal stupidity on the part of the media.

  4. This is based on models, hence the “may mask….” Desperate to explain the failure of their other models the warmists make new ones. Its over guys, the AGW scam is dead.

  5. Looks like they’ve figured out a way to keep their jobs for awhile longer.

    Honestly, the sky is falling, it’s just that the Ocean is getting in the way.

  6. The powers of climate change can kill
    planets with catastrophic climate crisis and unstoppable warming , yet it has
    it’s a$$ kicked by oceans and La Nina and this vast power of climate change is
    so shy that it hides in far off places like the polar caps, deep in oceans and
    jungles and mountain tops. And why are there more climatologists than climate
    blame demonstrators anyways. Let’s see some commitment so we don’t suspect
    exaggeration. Remember, it’s not WHAT is being said, it’s WHO is saying it?

     

    How many climatologists does it take
    to change a light bulb?

    None. BUT they DO have consensus that
    it WILL change.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  7. Lots of knee jerky in here.

  8. If the oceans hid global warming in the 2000s why didn’t they hide it in the 1990s?

    • Now that’s actually a good question. Looking at the linked article, the best answer it seems to give is that certain cyclic weather patterns (La Nina, etc) can redirect where the heat energy tends to go so at times it goes into the ocean, and at other times, not.

  9.  

     

    We must trust the science, the scientists, climatologists,
    the experts and those who know more than us. It’s not WHAT is being said, it’s
    WHO is saying it! We have seen the signs all around us and change is everywhere
    and our planet is weak and needs our help to bring it back to life otherwise
    our children will die a CO2 death. Those who do not see the changes are blind
    to the truth and the planet will deal with them in its own way. The good
    politicians who promise to lower the seas and make the planet colder if we pay
    a tax on the air’s CO2 will help the carbon trading markets (run by
    corporations and the good politicians), do what’s in our best interests and we
    must trust them and do as they say or life as we know it will cease. We owe it
    to our children. Let’s do it for our children’s sake.

    Do less, have less, want less, use less, be less and all
    will be well again. The evil oil companies have been giving bribe checks to all
    the deniers and in the name of love they must be eliminated for the betterment
    of all. Catastrophic climate change crisis and unstoppable warming is our fault
    and now we must pay the price of robbing the planet of its resources and as the
    oceans acidify and the ozone hole grows wider and the acid rain and Y2K
    continue to ravage us, the planet will look at us in shame and punish us for
    the rest of our days.

    The two faced bible thumping republicans stand in our way
    the planet willing, we will prevail and defeat those who would harm our
    creator, the plant Earth.

    ALGORE is my shepherd; I shall not think.

    He maketh me lie down in Greenzi pastures:

    He leadeth me beside the still-freezing waters.

    He selleth my soul for CO2:

    He leadeth me in the paths of self-righteousness for his own
    sake.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of
    reason,

    I will fear no logic: for thou art with me and thinking for
    me;

    Thy Gore’s family oil fortune and thy 10,000 square Gorey
    foot mansion, they comfort me.

    Thou preparest a movie in the presence of contradictory
    evidence:

    Thou anointest mine head with nonsense; my fear runneth
    over.

    Surely blind faith and hysteria shall follow me all the days
    of my life:

    and I will dwell in the house of ALGORE forever.

    • I wonder if you really think your rant is something that makes deniers look good?

      Honestly, even if I thought you were right, which I certainly don’t, I’d still be tempted to distance myself from that kind of insane rant.

      I mean wow… just wow.

  10. Oh hai dere.  Geologists have known about the effects of a warm ocean bottom water earth versus a cold ocean (what we have now) for about 35 years.  Climatologists have incorporated the cold ocean into their models since at least 1993 (the textbook I have was published then and includes many models with negative feedbacks from the oceans).  This is neither news nor “desperate”, as our anti-science nutbars above allege.

  11. Until there is an alternative theory to the CO2 rock-weathering thermostat model that can pass even the most basic of experimental tests, then we will have to continue with the premise that dumping excessive GHGs into the atmosphere is a really bad idea.

    The fact remains that decades of study by paleo-geologists and paleo-climatologists have overwhelmingly confirmed this model time and time again. Even the anomalies we could once cite against the theory have, with the introduction of newer and more precise data, fallen to the wayside, as demonstrated in this speech by Richard Alleny from Penn State U.

    http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm09/lectures/lecture_videos/A23A.shtml

    Given the degree of resistance to the mere idea that excessive CO2 is dangerous to the balance of global climate, one would think there were models and data to support the claims.

    Oddly, there isn’t any I can find, and I’ve been looking for quite a long time.

    If even there was a consistent narrative from those resisting the theory, that would be something, but even here they’re all over the map. It’s all ad hoc cherry picking.

    To me, the ultimate indicator of the weakness of their beliefs is the use of conspiracy theory. To me, the second anyone has to rely on conspiracy to defend their claim, then in my opinion they’ve essentially conceded the point.

    It’s like a naturally occuring BS litmus test of crazy. LOL

    • I’m with you on the most part. However, what has got me worried are people involved in these kind of groups:

      http://www.climateontario.ca/

      Apparently, boat loads of government money has been dedicated not to determine what causes global warming but rather to prove that it is in fact warming, and they do that by making no correlation or comparison what’so ever. Furthermore, they even have the gall of spending that money running around the province, forcing municipalities to host them so they can make municipal officials feel bad about not doing anything about adapting to climate change, when no one knows how climate change is going affect anything.

  12. Your all a bunch of complete idiots. Let’s all just continue to rape the planet….
    Who’ll be laughing when she all goes to pot?

    • Mother Nature herself. She always gets the last laugh, and good for her for doing so.

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     Several previous comments on this thread miss the point
    entirely. The fact that the oceans are absorbing excess heat is not a “free
    pass” for Earth’s climate. If ocean temperatures rise by just two degrees,
    scientists predict that many species of coral will face extinction. This has
    major implications for marine ecosystems and will undoubtedly have an adverse
    impact on fisheries, a vital food source for our growing population. This
    aquatic warming also has the potential to drastically alter ocean currents,
    with unpredictable and potentially catastrophic results.

     

    Don’t think warmer oceans are a big deal? Consider this:
    phytoplankton, the basis of the ocean food web, photosynthesize to produce
    oxygen for humans to breathe. NASA satellites have tracked global changes in
    phytoplankton, and found that warmer ocean temperatures are linked to decreasing
    photosynthesis and thus a lower output of oxygen.

     

    But hey, it’s not like we need oxygen to sustain life as we
    know it or anything…

     

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