Does Obama really want to win?

It was not a KO, but nor was it a game changer. But in the post-debate furor, it is safe to say Mitt Romney is back in the race and has Barack Obama to thank for it.

How can a man who has been President for four years with acknowledged achievements leave his game at the door?

Was the Romney gaffe of the 47 per cent an imaginative development as to not merit any mention? Did the Republican party become the moderate, centrist replica of the party of Lincoln and Eisenhower during the space of a 90-minute debate? Obama supporters and mainstream media across the U.S. want to know.

It is not that Mitt Romney was that good. Sure, he seemed focused and presidential, but he didn’t get beyond talking points and was actually fabricating policies on the fly.

But Obama didn’t really challenge him on his job-creation record as Massachusetts governor (47th in the nation), or raise the mixed Bain record on jobs that Romney likes to tout. At times Romney appeared the undisputed champion of a growth economy, the sole promoter of small business, and the architect of a streamlined government. (No reference by Obama that Romney was advocating the same Bush-type policies to spur the economic recovery.)

To be fair, Obama was not a complete disaster as he spoke of healthcare reform, financial reform, job creation and 31 months of continued growth after the worst recession since the Great Depression. And he did make a respectable case for medicare over the Republicans’ voucher program. The problem was his content, rather than its form. No clear message surfaced about his opponent’s policies nor about his own successes as President.

Historically speaking, debates have not determined an election, but they have influenced conversation. Granted, there are few undecided left, and there are two more debates between the two aspirants. With today’s positive job numbers of 7.8 per cent, it is likely Obama’s advantage may return to pre-debate status. The risk, however, is that the President’s lackluster performance may begin to play to the Republican narrative of an “out of touch” chief executive, whose “lack of leadership” was on display in the debate for all to see.

A slow recovery, the uncertainty of world events and the perception of a disconnected President are the last things the Obama campaign needs. The next debate will be crucial. And the pressure will be on Barack Obama to prove he wants four more years.




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Does Obama really want to win?

  1. “Obama supporters and mainstream media across the U.S. want to know.”

    One of those groups is wholly included within the other. Somebody please alert the Department of Redundancy Department.

    “Sure, he seemed focused and presidential, but he didn’t get beyond talking points and was actually fabricating policies on the fly.”

    Given that he spent a large chunk of the debate quoting specific numbers concerning the economy and the impact of Obama’s policies on it, I think it’s fair to say that only a devoted mainstream media man would try to claim that Romney didn’t get beyond talking points. It was the opposite of a bumper-sticker debate; it was a debate on policy…which is why Obama lost.

    To be fair, Obama’s four years have not been a complete disaster despite screwing up healthcare reform, financial reform, job creation, and 31 months of continued record unemployment numbers after the worst US debt splurge since WW2. And he did make a respectable corpse of Bin Laden over the objections of Pakistan. The problem has been their content, rather than their form. No clear strategy surfaced about how to address the nation’s economic woes and the irresponsible spending which has worsened them, nor about Clinton’s ability to reverse-course after losing Congress, leading to his successes as President.

    • That thrill that went up Chrissy Matthews’ leg is now trickling down…

    • Gaunilon! oh, the mainstream media again! can you mention at
      most two facts that showed consistency of the ‘truth’ by Romney. if anything, the mainstream media
      is stupidly focusing on the ‘acting’ part of the debate and not the substance.
      hope that the American public is smart enough not to vote for the republican
      presidential candidate. if Romney wins,we are back to the ‘good old’ Bush
      days. (the Bush Jr. years.) Now, that worked out really well for everyone.

      • Jeb Bush had no business letting that hurricane get past Florida either.

        You can clearly see how the chemtrails from Katrina generated by that secret weather machine in Cheney’s basement pushed those airplanes into the WTC with the innocent terrorists kidnapped by Richard Nixon’s alien clone from the Roswell crash while Ronald Reagan planted the thermite explosives in black helicopters during area 51 time travel experiments filming Bed Time for Bonzo with the help of Romney’s father…

        “The Twoof is out there on the X-Files”

      • Oh yeah, the NY Times is much less partisan than the Star.

        • It’s not the partisanship that counts it’s the quality. Your news sources are no doubt completely free of partisanship…fond of the post are you? Or is the Toronto Sun or its sister papers more your thing?

    • Given that he spent a large chunk of the debate quoting specific numbers concerning the economy and the impact of Obama’s policies on it, I think it’s fair to say that only a devoted mainstream media man would try to claim that Romney didn’t get beyond talking points.

      Except, it’s been pretty well established that most of the “specific numbers” Romney trotted out fall somewhere between inaccurate and untrue. Throwing a few specifics in with your talking points shouldn’t count if they’re INACCURATE specifics!

      • Using Kitchener for an avatar is pretty stupid, he got a lot of Tommys killed unnecessarily in the trench war…

      • Perhaps you could put forward some specifics with your talking point… if they’re accurate.

      • This: “Some 15 percent of hospitals and nursing homes say they won’t take any more Medicare patients under that scenario”,

        …in which Romney describes the effect of Obama’s budget on Medicare spending over the next ten years, is a specific number concerning the economy and the impact of Obama’s policies on it. It’s also a perfectly truthful recounting of the Congressional testimony from Medicare’s Chief Actuary last year.

        This: “…it’s been pretty well established that most of the “specific numbers” Romney trotted out fall somewhere between inaccurate and untrue”

        …is a talking point. Yes, it’s a mainstream media talking point as well as an Obama campaign talking point, but I fail to see the distinction between those two.

        • It’s also a stupid talking point, since “fall somewhere between inaccurate and untrue” is just a long-winded, blow-hard, preening and smug way of saying “are false”.

        • It seems to me that this example amounts to “Under Obama’s plan you may only end up being able to go to 85% of the hospitals that you can go to now, but you can go to them as long as you need to” whereas under the Romney/Paul plan you can still go to 100% of the hospitals you can go to now, but only until your vouchers run out.

          I’m not sure that’s a distinction that the Republicans would want to run openly on.

    • Rush Limbaugh is an Obama supporter? Ann Coulter? Laura Ingraham? Michael Savage? Charles Krauthammer? Tut tut, Gaunilon, if you’re not careful, you’re going to get the same reputation for being a dirty liar as Mitt Romney.

  2. Spin it any way you want to Parisella, you are still a 25 watt light bulb. This is Chicago style politics at it’s best. Back in February, I said that Obama would get the unemployment number below 8% just in time for the election and it looks like he is right on track. There is absolutley nothing this administration will not do to keep power. They have not only taken over the government but they have infiltrated most if not all of the civil service as well. Check some of the reports from this side of the border and you will see that most of the economists at the BLS are active Obama supporters. This is not a President, this is a Dictator wannabe.

    • 1uscanuck!what are you smoking? another conspiracy?!

    • Read Jack Welsh’s tweet did ya? The old boy is losing it.

    • lol! You really do watch too many made for TV movies Canad uck.

    • I said that Obama would get the unemployment number below 8% just in time for the election and it looks like he is right on track. There is absolutley nothing this administration will not do to keep power.

      That SCOUNDREL!!!! Making unemployment go down just to win the election. Scandalous! First, he kills bin Laden, now this. Is there nothing that man won’t do to win!?!?!?

  3. Pretty simple what happened here Mr. Parisella.

    You saw Romney without the filter the Obama media puts on him.
    You saw Obama, with a defenseless record on the economy, without his teleprompter, and without the protection of his adoring media gatekeepers.

    You think Obama has the advantage on foreign policy because you media lapdogs can feign outrage about a Romney statement? LOL. Wait till the next debate, when Romney starts to share the truth, that you and your colleagues have been for the most part withholding, of the Obama administration’s coverup of the Benghazi security clusterf**k. How Obama knew within a few hours that the attack was a terrorist attack, then went to bed without knowing if his ambassador was still alive, then upon finding out the next morning that he was dead, skipped his daily intel briefing and jumped on a plane to Vegas for a campaign fundraiser. How days later he was still blaming the attack on a movie, even knowing that it was an Al Qaeda attack.

    Then in the second half of the debate we’ll get to the Fast and Furious coverup. The bump in the road comment. How Israel is just “noise”.

    That’s going to be a very very long debate for Obama. It may be your job to overlook these things, but Romney won’t. He knows that he has a chance to finally catch millions of viewers who are just starting to tune in up on the stuff you guys haven’t told them, without your filters getting in the way. It won’t be pretty.

    And as to “not a KO”…at one point Obama begged the moderator to move on to the next topic. That’s pretty much a TKO at least. But I can’t blame you for not seeing it. Knockout punches are typically delivered to the head. Which you can’t see from your current vantage point.

    • john g! romney and the truth in the same sentence? you have great imagination.

      • Apparently JG has a source inside the WH too, judging by the dirt he’s dishing on Obama, Care to reveal your source John?

        • Oh he revealed it a while ago. It’s none other than the Drudge report. You know, that paragon of truth that was asserting that Obama was born in Kenya.

        • I’m sure “John Boy” is really Ann Romney. :-O

      • Well.. you’ll note he doesn’t say that Romney said anything that was truthful this time around.

        In fact, he specifically points out that it’ll only be the next debate that Romney begins to share truth.

    • Bravo john g! There is no end to the lies, deceit and cover up that this sorry excuse of a crowd will not do to retain power.

  4. Obama is just an empty chair like Clint Eastwood said he was…

    • and Romney is a stool.

      • lol! Brilliant fibonacci2 ! Still LMAO!

        • And you, it would appear, are a pinhead.

          • Your life means less to me than that of a spring lamb, you aren’t even quality grade dog food as far as I am concerned…

          • That’s interesting. Stuff that I don’t actually care about, I don’t engage with on message boards.
            I know what this is really about. I’m sorry I hurt your feelings, Winston. If I had known you were so sensitive, I would have been more gentle with you.

          • This comment was deleted.

          • You say you don’t care about me, but really you do.

          • Do you need a hug?

          • You need a slug… .45… or, maybe 5.7 x 28 mm ?

          • Why do you push people away?

          • William Blake! oops, Winston Blake! you’re
            a great debater!

            ‘To see a world in a grain of sand,

            And a heaven in a wild flower,

            Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,

            And eternity in an hour.’

            don’t try, you may get hernia of the brain.

    • And it won’t be very long until Eastwood’s chair is EMPTY! So who cares what that douche bag says! He was laughed right out of hollywood for that performance!

      • Only by Obama bootlickers like yourself

  5. Wow, you’re still throwing around the Democrat’s talking point about job growth in Massachusetts? You do realise that the state unemployment rate dropped from 5.6% to 4.6% during Romney’s term, right? Obama can only dream of stats like that, even with the BLS cooking the books for him.

    • It’s one of those lines that exposes Parisella for the dishonest partisan cheerleader that he is. Journalists are supposed to be better than that.

      • In the USA, state governments alone have a 5.17 trillion dollar public employee pension liability and no way to pay for it.

        This inevitable economic catastrophe is mirrored by the looming national debt of 16 trillion dollars.

        Making all of your economic predictions based on a model of an exponential growth curve is doomed to failure because the failure is a mathematical certainty.

        Journalists are clueless about mathematics… So is Paul Krugman, he would have you believe he is some expert on economics while his own newspaper, the Jew York Times is nearly bankrupt.

        • Krugman is responsible for the finances of the NYT?

          • He is their economist… errr.. ecommunist…

          • They just publish his column – you are confused.

          • Looks like another reason they are nearly bankrupt…

          • He gets read by all sides – that’s why you know about him. And what large newspaper isn’t in trouble?

          • Looks like another reason they are nearly bankrupt.

          • -

            Looks like another reason they are nearly bankrupt…
            Nobody buys the nonsense and they follow the advice anyway.

          • The Jew York Times… LOL!

    • Which was apparently worse than all but 3 states during the same period after the last recession.
      But thanks for coming out.

      • Yet still better than Obama’s record.

        • Who’s record is, of course, still better than Harper’s.

          • Obama can’t even protect a little embassy from a bunch of third world goat herders…

      • I just love the fact that you’re capable of writing both the comment above and the one below within minutes of each other without betraying a hint of irony. That’s some truly awe-inspiring stupid.

        • Margaret, is that you?

    • Fun fact – over the same period in which Obama returned unemployment to the same rate at which it started the period, Harper increased unemployment by 0.1!

      More fun – while we’re comparing 03-07 Romney to 09-12 Obama, let’s compare 03-07 Liberals to 09-12 Conservatives :
      03-07 Liberals – unemployment reduced 1.3%
      09-12 Cons – unemployment up 0.1%

      Fun!

      Double plus fun:

      Previous Liberal government to current Conservative:
      Liberals – unemployment reduced 3.9%
      Conservatives – unemployment increased 1.0%

      • *sigh* that would have NOTHING to do with the fact that there was a world wide global recession while the Conservatives were in office, would it?

        • I just love the fact that you’re capable of writing both the comment above and the one below within minutes of each other without betraying a hint of irony. That’s some truly awe-inspiring stupid.

  6. Obama admin has made average income drop 5%, health care costs have increased, unemployment is at record highs. Of course Obama wants to win. If Obama loses this election, he’s in the mix for discussion of worst president in modern era. Who was worse Carter or Obama or Nixon?

    Obama is a joke, he can’t ably defend his first term results and he is not proposing anything positive for his second term, all he can do is spread poison and innuendo about Romney. Obama is empty suit.

    And it’s Arsenal,
    Arsenal FC,
    We’re by far the greatest team,
    The world has ever seen….

  7. OK Libs – Here’s Obama’s Grand Plan
    Tax the 1% at the 100% rate.
    Tax and over regulate all business so it is impossible to make a profit.
    Provide stimulis (ownership by gov’t) to failed business.
    Force business to hire employees by quota.
    Hire workers at 30 hr/wk and $9.00/hr.
    Provide food stamps/health care etc. (free) for all underpaid employees.
    All truly unemployed and disability receipients become Federal employees.
    PRESTO – 0% unemployment.
    Let me know how this works for you.

  8. I dunno. Obama sounded pretty well how he always sound. Petulant vague shallow and annoyed.

    • “Reporters love this story because it reminds everyone that the medium they work in has the power to overcome substance and decide elections all by itself. What’s amazing is that they don’t have the good sense to be ashamed of this.”

      NICE.

  9. I disagree with the Obama supporter consensus that their guy needed to attack Romney on all the personal themes the campaign has been hammering on for months. Remember when Newt Gingrich had his brief turn as the non-Romney in the primary? His big thing was debate performance, that he’d be the guy who could whack Obama around on behalf of all those who’ve spent 3 years wishing they could. We would have seen a much different performance out of Newt on Wednesday, kind of the Tea Party equivalent of the strategy Obama’s backers are advocating. People are looking for a president. There is nothing wrong with a serious conversation about government. He just has to have a grip on his files and look like he wants to be there.

  10. Just some Rope-A-Dope from Obama, look for a TKO of the Mittbot in Round Three.

  11. Romney is the Kama Sutra candidate. 10,000 positions and you’re screwed in every one.

  12. “It was not a KO, but nor was it a game changer” – Okay, then what WAS it? Because after reading this pitiful defense of Obama’s clearly disastrous debate performance, I’m thinking it was actually a game changing KO, TKO, or at the absolute very least…. a unanimous judges decision.

    The fact that the Obama Campaign Team John Parisella is actually trying to defend his performance by attacking Romney rather than pointing to a single success from Obama’s first term exemplifies just how lackluster Obama hash been as President.

    Oh, and Snoop Dogg and Jay-Z aren’t going to vote for Romney because he’s white. Does that indicate that electing Obama has lessened race tensions in the US, or raised them?

  13. I suspect this was on purpose. There’s a term, which I have forgotten, used when politicians don’t do well and then pull a great move. Remember, Obama would have known that the unemployement rate went under 8% (he gets the information before it’s released) and chose not to hint at it. In addition, he got a ton of money donated….people paniced with thoughts of losing the election. This is all strategy. We’ll see how the next two debates go.

  14. Hey Parisella…

    Still think this debate wasn’t a game changer? If you don’t, then I don’t think you even know what game is being played.

    And if you really do want to know what a game changer looks like…head on over to CBS right now. Or ABC. You can drop the Benghazi charade anytime now. It’s a real story.

    Jesus Christ, 300+ million people in the USA, and only 2 real journalists on the networks…Jake Tapper and Sharyl Attkisson. No wonder the country is screwed.

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