Military burns Russell Williams’s former uniform

Clothes belonging to disgraced former colonel seized from his home


 

Although it isn’t standard practice in the military, members of the Canadian Forces have torched the uniform of convicted serial killer Russell Williams. Military officials searched Williams’s Tweed cottage on Tuesday, with his permission, and collected all of his military equipment, clothing, books and manuals. A spokesperson for the Canadian Forces told the Toronto Star that all of Williams’ clothes, including boots, headdress, and shirts, were burned on the same day. The retrieving of equipment is standard procedure, but the burning is not. When asked why they treated Williams’s belongings differently, spokesperson Cmdr. Hubert Genest said, “I could speculate about what could happen to the clothing, but by disposing of it like this, we’re sure it’s not going to be used again.”

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Military burns Russell Williams’s former uniform

  1. I don't know about this. It's seems like cheap tokenism, to use the term "burn". To personalize it. Williams disgraced his uniform. The uniform is not a disgrace because Williams wore it. To use the word "burn" seems petty and an attempt for the military to vindicate itself of something, that no one is holding the military responsible for. Do we "burn" our flag because Williams served under it? Do we abolish the position of command at Trenton because Williams held it. Do we destroy the office space he sat in. Great soldiers have worn that uniform in war and peace. Lock it up. Put it away. But to say you will "burn" a Canadian uniform, in some empty gesture…to whom? Two Canadians soldiers have been convicted of crimes in recent months in a military court and neither has had his uniform "burned" by the military. This was a civil court case. The military should be careful of how it wishes to stay clear of Williams.

  2. I don't know about this. It's seems like cheap tokenism, to use the term "burn". To personalize it. Williams disgraced his uniform. The uniform is not a disgrace because Williams wore it. To use the word "burn" seems petty and an attempt for the military to vindicate itself of something, that no one is holding the military responsible for. Do we "burn" our flag because Williams served under it? Do we abolish the position of command at Trenton because Williams held it. Do we destroy the office space he sat in. Great soldiers have worn that uniform in war and peace. Lock it up. Put it away. But to say you will "burn" a Canadian uniform, in some empty gesture…to whom? Two Canadians soldiers have been convicted of crimes in recent months in a military court and neither has had his uniform "burned" by the military. This was a civil court case. The military should be careful of how it wishes to stay clear of Williams.

    • An Excellent evaluation … period

    • Isn't this going a little overboard CF? Tokenism for sure but, to whom is this gesture directed to? For what purpose? And another thing, I get an uneasy feeling that the CF is blurring the rationale for its distancing of former Col. Williams. Is it because he disgraced the CF by killing two people or is it because he killed two women and wore their underwear and performed other sexual acts? Maybe it is just me but I get this feeling that the CF is directly associating crossdressing with OCD and serial killing. Maybe it is time for the CF to issue a simple statement that they are shocked/saddened by the murders taken place by one of their own and clarify the CF's position on their shock and saddened state for one of their own being a closet crossdresser.

    • The fact that the uniforms are no longer available to anyone for any use is the sole reason for them being disposed of in this way. The simple statement of this action is to Williams himself " You are not now, nor were you ever one of us"
      The information was made public so that Williams would know, everyone who had any involvement with him would know and that would be the end of his connection to the Forces. The only wish that goes along with this report is that Williams wasn't wearing the uniform when it was burned!!

      • Your statement would be valid if this was done with all uniforms. But obviously, that is not the case. Even in a court martial is the uniform of the convicted burned? Furthermore if you have read article, the CF stated this is a "one off" circumstance. It maybe symbolic. It may satisfy many. And it would seem anybody that raises questions about it would be deemed unsympathetic to the heinous events that led to this action. But it is still a Canadian Military Uniform. When WIlliams was stripped of his rank? That was a solid and responsible statement by the CF. This seems like cheap retribution to somehow cleanse the soul, of which the CF does not need to even consider. That is unless there is something more to it all, unknown to Canadians.

        • To add in to these observations, it seems that "with his permission, and collected all of his military equipment, clothing, books and manuals." Wasn't this ever collected as evidence? How can this be possible, a killer with 23 years in the military, that has been stationed all over the country and parts of the world, such personal belongings remained in his position and were not invested for evidence of further wrong doing? All did the civilian trial neat end any true investigation on the part of the CF?

    • The burning of William's uniform ensures that items don't end up on kijiji or e-bay as collectors items for some wealthy sicko. This way, he will never be glorified and he can fade into obscurity where he belongs. I hope they got it all!

  3. An Excellent evaluation … period

  4. Isn't this going a little overboard CF? Tokenism for sure but, to whom is this gesture directed to? For what purpose? And another thing, I get an uneasy feeling that the CF is blurring the rationale for its distancing of former Col. Williams. Is it because he disgraced the CF by killing two people or is it because he killed two women and wore their underwear and performed other sexual acts? Maybe it is just me but I get this feeling that the CF is directly associating crossdressing with OCD and serial killing. Maybe it is time for the CF to issue a simple statement that they are shocked/saddened by the murders taken place by one of their own and clarify the CF's position on their shock and saddened state for one of their own being a closet crossdresser.

  5. The fact that the uniforms are no longer available to anyone for any use is the sole reason for them being disposed of in this way. The simple statement of this action is to Williams himself " You are not now, nor were you ever one of us"
    The information was made public so that Williams would know, everyone who had any involvement with him would know and that would be the end of his connection to the Forces. The only wish that goes along with this report is that Williams wasn't wearing the uniform when it was burned!!

  6. Your statement would be valid if this was done with all uniforms. But obviously, that is not the case. Even in a court martial is the uniform of the convicted burned? Furthermore if you have read article, the CF stated this is a "one off" circumstance. It maybe symbolic. It may satisfy many. And it would seem anybody that raises questions about it would be deemed unsympathetic to the heinous events that led to this action. But it is still a Canadian Military Uniform. When WIlliams was stripped of his rank? That was a solid and responsible statement by the CF. This seems like cheap retribution to somehow cleanse the soul, of which the CF does not need to even consider. That is unless there is something more to it all, unknown to Canadians.

  7. To add in to these observations, it seems that "with his permission, and collected all of his military equipment, clothing, books and manuals." Wasn't this ever collected as evidence? How can this be possible, a killer with 23 years in the military, that has been stationed all over the country and parts of the world, such personal belongings remained in his position and were not invested for evidence of further wrong doing? All did the civilian trial neat end any true investigation on the part of the CF?

  8. Garnishee his pension. His victims can't be paying taxes to support someone who is strong enough to start again where he left off 25 years ago.
     
    Don't say it can't be done. Private creditors, no. But there are workarounds to get at his pension. The gov can do it. And can pass legislation to take care of future cases more easily.

  9. Garnishee his pension. His victims can't be paying taxes to support someone who is strong enough to start again where he left off 25 years ago.
     
    Don't say it can't be done. Private creditors, no. But there are workarounds to get at his pension. The gov can do it. And can pass legislation to take care of future cases more easily.

    • Hopefully his pension is going to his wife and she deserves to receive it having had her world collapse around her.

  10. As a young man in the RCN some 60 plus years go I remember that the Kings Rules and regulations said if you were dishonorably discharged you lost all rights to your pension .Two questions I would like Macleans to pursue.Does this rule still stand,Can we assume he was dishonourably discharged from the military for actions carried out while serving which is 24/7 If not why Not??

  11. As a young man in the RCN some 60 plus years go I remember that the Kings Rules and regulations said if you were dishonorably discharged you lost all rights to your pension .Two questions I would like Macleans to pursue.Does this rule still stand,Can we assume he was dishonourably discharged from the military for actions carried out while serving which is 24/7 If not why Not??

  12. Who gives a damn. Too bad he couldn't have joined the uniform.

  13. Who gives a damn. Too bad he couldn't have joined the uniform.

  14. Larry Jones suddenly remembered that ahhhh,he was invited to strike the match to burn the uniforms but ahhhh he had some thing else to do.
    Larry Jones was a close neighbor of Williams they had talked 20times 2 minutes at a time 40 min.total ……A lot.According to the press [its just sad]

  15. Larry Jones suddenly remembered that ahhhh,he was invited to strike the match to burn the uniforms but ahhhh he had some thing else to do.
    Larry Jones was a close neighbor of Williams they had talked 20times 2 minutes at a time 40 min.total ……A lot.According to the press [its just sad]

  16. Good for the Military – but the "burning" truly was just PR as-was the retrieving of all uniforms. Largely due to the gravity of that freak's selfish actions, because most released members KEEP their dress uniforms and other next-to-skin clothing, upon release. Which brings me to the fact his Pension is non-retractable??????? I beg to differ because they just revoked his CD medal, which is as-good-as stating there's 11 yrs Williams did NOT serve….makes hikm un-pensionable. Also why would anyone who LIED, FALSIFIED DOCUMENTS (especially throughout any psych evaluations), used his position and commission to HIDE-and-ABUSE be entitled to a pension. Why is it even questionable…..

  17. Good for the Military – but the "burning" truly was just PR as-was the retrieving of all uniforms. Largely due to the gravity of that freak's selfish actions, because most released members KEEP their dress uniforms and other next-to-skin clothing, upon release. Which brings me to the fact his Pension is non-retractable??????? I beg to differ because they just revoked his CD medal, which is as-good-as stating there's 11 yrs Williams did NOT serve….makes hikm un-pensionable. Also why would anyone who LIED, FALSIFIED DOCUMENTS (especially throughout any psych evaluations), used his position and commission to HIDE-and-ABUSE be entitled to a pension. Why is it even questionable…..

  18. The canadian military is a joke!!!….just another example of how pathetic it really is. Here's another , when troops return from afghanistan ans show signes of a occupational stress injury , thier units turn thier back on them. Then they find ways to cause more stress by shunning them. Trust me…I was there..and it happened to me. RCR SUCKS!!!

  19. The canadian military is a joke!!!….just another example of how pathetic it really is. Here's another , when troops return from afghanistan ans show signes of a occupational stress injury , thier units turn thier back on them. Then they find ways to cause more stress by shunning them. Trust me…I was there..and it happened to me. RCR SUCKS!!!

    • How right you are. You are just a number to the military and no wonder so many men and women are too scared to admit and get help for osi or ptsd.
      What to get the boot and be treated like you have the plague?
      I commend you for your role in Afghanistan,and thank you for serving our country! You are brave men and women and should be recognized and treated as such!
      Shame on the military!!!!!
      But yet they let pedophiles and men accused of sexual assault stay in and dont abandon them!!

    • CRW, you must one of the less fortunate then. My husband is a 30yr member of the Canadian Military and has done his tours in Afghanistan, the Gulf war etc and has NEVER been shunned. He was offered any and all assistance he needed to his 'head' back together and more. His unit, and his superiors could not have been more helpful. ((btw, he was RCR in the beginning years of his enlisting)

  20. I am some what confused about how the military could just deny him his pension when from what I understand he was never court marshaled, if this be the case and he was never dis honorable discharged then would he still not be a member of the armed forces,, welcome to Canada

  21. I am some what confused about how the military could just deny him his pension when from what I understand he was never court marshaled, if this be the case and he was never dis honorable discharged then would he still not be a member of the armed forces,, welcome to Canada

    • But that's just the thing, he was never dis honourably discharged. Do you think that the Canadian Forces would allow somebody to have a proper march off or get properly discharged from the Military if they found out that this person disgraced both the Military and Canada??

      Furthermore do you think it is the Military's fault for doing what they did?? In my mind I think that they did right by burning all his stuff. I believe that is what he gets after what he did.

      • ….Three Cheers Guest…you are the only one here making REAL sense. It is my opinion that……
        by burning everything Militarilly touched by this maniac..he will know first hand that he no longer exists
        and never will . God Bless Canada and her Military. Amen

  22. CRW, I take great offence to you stating "the Canadian Military is a joke", I don't always agree with the decisions made, but I am a proud Canadian soldier. I don't know what exactly happened in your short military career, but I personally wake up every morning and put my uniform on with pride. I also spent time with the RCR's in Gagetown and spent the best part of my career with them. I don't have an issue with people not liking or thinking the military is a joke, if all parties have the proper information to make an informative decision. Being an RMS Clk I have a lot of mbrs come and go, for all different type of reasons however the whole story is always known…..I also have extensive experience with OSI and policy and proceedures regarding this issue, so if you are going to state the military is a joke plse provide all information and facts, there's always more than one side…

  23. CRW, I take great offence to you stating "the Canadian Military is a joke", I don't always agree with the decisions made, but I am a proud Canadian soldier. I don't know what exactly happened in your short military career, but I personally wake up every morning and put my uniform on with pride. I also spent time with the RCR's in Gagetown and spent the best part of my career with them. I don't have an issue with people not liking or thinking the military is a joke, if all parties have the proper information to make an informative decision. Being an RMS Clk I have a lot of mbrs come and go, for all different type of reasons however the whole story is always known…..I also have extensive experience with OSI and policy and proceedures regarding this issue, so if you are going to state the military is a joke plse provide all information and facts, there's always more than one side…

  24. it is a shame and a disgrace to amplify his actions on those victims by having his uniform burned insted of still allowing him to be spoken of they should have just burned him no matter what the general public thinks or does it is not going to brig back those lives OUR PRIORITY AS A NATION IS TO THANK THOSE WHO SERVE WITH DIGNITY AND HONOUR AND TO REMEMBER THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS

  25. it is a shame and a disgrace to amplify his actions on those victims by having his uniform burned insted of still allowing him to be spoken of they should have just burned him no matter what the general public thinks or does it is not going to brig back those lives OUR PRIORITY AS A NATION IS TO THANK THOSE WHO SERVE WITH DIGNITY AND HONOUR AND TO REMEMBER THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS

    • Nicely said…

      • I absoulty agree with RMS as a person myself in the Canadian Forces I take great offence to saying that it sucks. AFS that was well said and I agree. I guess all I have to say is we can not judge the rest of us who serve because of one mans actions. What about the police officer who sells drugs or the one that get cought doing other crimes there men in uniforms as well but since ONE Person in the Canadian Forces did a complete horrible thing we are all bad now. I do not support nor agree with what he did but I do support my contry and will continue to wear my uniform with pride.

  26. Nicely said…

  27. How right you are. You are just a number to the military and no wonder so many men and women are too scared to admit and get help for osi or ptsd.
    What to get the boot and be treated like you have the plague?
    I commend you for your role in Afghanistan,and thank you for serving our country! You are brave men and women and should be recognized and treated as such!
    Shame on the military!!!!!
    But yet they let pedophiles and men accused of sexual assault stay in and dont abandon them!!

  28. I am a former air cadet which went to AFB Trenton cadet camp, I had a big ambition to be in the air force and my last name is also Williams.
    I on the opposite side of the scale was proud of my uniform and everything about the air force but EX Col. Williams is a total disgrace to the uniform and the air force , I feel sorry for his wife.
    He is lucky he lives in a modern , leanient society in the old days he would have been hung as he should have .
    signed a former cadet

  29. I am a former air cadet which went to AFB Trenton cadet camp, I had a big ambition to be in the air force and my last name is also Williams.
    I on the opposite side of the scale was proud of my uniform and everything about the air force but EX Col. Williams is a total disgrace to the uniform and the air force , I feel sorry for his wife.
    He is lucky he lives in a modern , leanient society in the old days he would have been hung as he should have .
    signed a former cadet

  30. I absoulty agree with RMS as a person myself in the Canadian Forces I take great offence to saying that it sucks. AFS that was well said and I agree. I guess all I have to say is we can not judge the rest of us who serve because of one mans actions. What about the police officer who sells drugs or the one that get cought doing other crimes there men in uniforms as well but since ONE Person in the Canadian Forces did a complete horrible thing we are all bad now. I do not support nor agree with what he did but I do support my contry and will continue to wear my uniform with pride.

  31. To those of you who say he should have been burned with his uniform: you unfortunately don't seem to understand what democracy & living in a democratic/free country is/means… no matter how we feel about his actions, our simple thoughts/feelings do not give us the right to single handedly decide of his faith. I do NOT agree with anything he did & I think he is very sick, but for me to say I would like to see him burned would mean me sinking to the level of the barbaric actions he alegedly took. That's not the world we live in.
    To those of you saying "the military is a joke"; please inquire as to all that the military does for our country & in for the purpose of freedom. I, just like RMS Clk, take great offense to that comment. I am a proud canadian & proud to have ties to the military.

  32. And last, to those of you who don't understand the burning of the uniform… he did disgrace the uniform & I personally wouldn't want to wear his uniform. It's NOT like burning the flag (God forbid you even said that), it's simply getting rid of something that no longer belongs. Furthermore, we need to ensure, in my opinion, that his uniform does not become the center of attention on sites such as ebay, etc. Unfortunately, many people find "opportunities" in unfortunate events. I feel sorry for these people, but they unfortunately exist.
    AFS, you are correct when you say that nothing will bring back those lives & we need to be thankful to those who serve for our country.
    Unfortunately Williams is a very bad seed within a great organization that does good worldwide. For those who haven't seen this bumper sticker yet, I leave you with this thought: If you don't stand behind our troops, please feel free to stand in front of them.
    Don't blame the system for a bad seed.
    Don't see an exception as being the norm.
    The forces, nor the uniform are the cause of these tragedies… a single person is.

  33. To those of you who say he should have been burned with his uniform: you unfortunately don't seem to understand what democracy & living in a democratic/free country is/means… no matter how we feel about his actions, our simple thoughts/feelings do not give us the right to single handedly decide of his faith. I do NOT agree with anything he did & I think he is very sick, but for me to say I would like to see him burned would mean me sinking to the level of the barbaric actions he alegedly took. That's not the world we live in.
    To those of you saying "the military is a joke"; please inquire as to all that the military does for our country & in for the purpose of freedom. I, just like RMS Clk, take great offense to that comment. I am a proud canadian & proud to have ties to the military.

    • And last, to those of you who don't understand the burning of the uniform… he did disgrace the uniform & I personally wouldn't want to wear his uniform. It's NOT like burning the flag (God forbid you even said that), it's simply getting rid of something that no longer belongs. Furthermore, we need to ensure, in my opinion, that his uniform does not become the center of attention on sites such as ebay, etc. Unfortunately, many people find "opportunities" in unfortunate events. I feel sorry for these people, but they unfortunately exist.
      AFS, you are correct when you say that nothing will bring back those lives & we need to be thankful to those who serve for our country.
      Unfortunately Williams is a very bad seed within a great organization that does good worldwide. For those who haven't seen this bumper sticker yet, I leave you with this thought: If you don't stand behind our troops, please feel free to stand in front of them.
      Don't blame the system for a bad seed.
      Don't see an exception as being the norm.
      The forces, nor the uniform are the cause of these tragedies… a single person is.

  34. But that's just the thing, he was never dis honourably discharged. Do you think that the Canadian Forces would allow somebody to have a proper march off or get properly discharged from the Military if they found out that this person disgraced both the Military and Canada??

    Furthermore do you think it is the Military's fault for doing what they did?? In my mind I think that they did right by burning all his stuff. I believe that is what he gets after what he did.

  35. ….Three Cheers Guest…you are the only one here making REAL sense. It is my opinion that……
    by burning everything Militarilly touched by this maniac..he will know first hand that he no longer exists
    and never will . God Bless Canada and her Military. Amen

  36. I find that the diversity we see alone in these comments, concerning one very sick individual, shows us what a great country we live in. Personally, I am grateful to know, that if ever comes a time we need to secure our country and its citizens, we have the best trained military men and women in the world, blanketing us with their love of the job, and love of their country, and always willing to put their lives on the line, so we may enjoy the freedoms, such as speach, without being condemed to prisons as in other countries. Remember my countrymen, Williams was one sick monster, out of tens of thousands of proud service members who suffer daily through what he did, this is a family unit and they NEED and DESERVE our support, anything less makes us ungrateful and undeserving of the lives already lost, so we may be free, I thank GOD every day for our military members. I am many generations Canadian, and I would'nt have it any other way. So, if burning a monsters uniforms, brings a certain amount of closure to its service members, then so be it.

  37. I find that the diversity we see alone in these comments, concerning one very sick individual, shows us what a great country we live in. Personally, I am grateful to know, that if ever comes a time we need to secure our country and its citizens, we have the best trained military men and women in the world, blanketing us with their love of the job, and love of their country, and always willing to put their lives on the line, so we may enjoy the freedoms, such as speach, without being condemed to prisons as in other countries. Remember my countrymen, Williams was one sick monster, out of tens of thousands of proud service members who suffer daily through what he did, this is a family unit and they NEED and DESERVE our support, anything less makes us ungrateful and undeserving of the lives already lost, so we may be free, I thank GOD every day for our military members. I am many generations Canadian, and I would'nt have it any other way. So, if burning a monsters uniforms, brings a certain amount of closure to its service members, then so be it.

  38. It seems that the Act of "burning" his gear is seen in many different views..if it was a simple token to some, OK..if it was disgust in a monster, OK,,if it might bring some closure to others, then good. All those reasons might help some recognize his acts were "his". If nothing else, the simple act of burning his gear means that we won't see his gear being sold for profit to other sick individuals.

    PS: if you can't "Stand Behind Our Troops" feel free to stand in front….

  39. It seems that the Act of "burning" his gear is seen in many different views..if it was a simple token to some, OK..if it was disgust in a monster, OK,,if it might bring some closure to others, then good. All those reasons might help some recognize his acts were "his". If nothing else, the simple act of burning his gear means that we won't see his gear being sold for profit to other sick individuals.

    PS: if you can't "Stand Behind Our Troops" feel free to stand in front….

  40. The first thought that came to mind when I read this was: Evidence… they're burning evidence! No matter how miniscule it may be, a hair, a note, a clue anything. Tell me this guy is this messed up and only did this twice. Thats BS!! I'm worried about who and what else he's done. If he thought he could get away from it here, just imagine what he likely did in some of the less secure countries he's been to. This isn't the end of his story, his confession will continue to leak out as he spends more time in prison, as soon as people start to forget he'll tell another story. Just like his friend Bernardo.. only with trained and skilled discipline. This guy didn't screw up this easily… he's been trained to do what? Exactly.

  41. The first thought that came to mind when I read this was: Evidence… they're burning evidence! No matter how miniscule it may be, a hair, a note, a clue anything. Tell me this guy is this messed up and only did this twice. Thats BS!! I'm worried about who and what else he's done. If he thought he could get away from it here, just imagine what he likely did in some of the less secure countries he's been to. This isn't the end of his story, his confession will continue to leak out as he spends more time in prison, as soon as people start to forget he'll tell another story. Just like his friend Bernardo.. only with trained and skilled discipline. This guy didn't screw up this easily… he's been trained to do what? Exactly.

  42. I totally agree with Guest2. Who knows what clue was in those uniforms. He was highly trained that he got away with a number of murders before getting caught. Someone from the military appoved the burning to be done specially if it is not a standard practice. What's goin on???

  43. I totally agree with Guest2. Who knows what clue was in those uniforms. He was highly trained that he got away with a number of murders before getting caught. Someone from the military appoved the burning to be done specially if it is not a standard practice. What's goin on???

  44. I think you are all missing the boat….they burned it so it couldn't be sold some day or put in a museum like they did with Manson. He said “I could speculate about what could happen to the clothing, but by disposing of it like this, we're sure it's not going to be used again.” I think it was a smart move. If the police had wanted it they would not have left it there. I am not a fan of the military but I see no wrong in this.

  45. I think you are all missing the boat….they burned it so it couldn't be sold some day or put in a museum like they did with Manson. He said “I could speculate about what could happen to the clothing, but by disposing of it like this, we're sure it's not going to be used again.” I think it was a smart move. If the police had wanted it they would not have left it there. I am not a fan of the military but I see no wrong in this.

  46. Hopefully his pension is going to his wife and she deserves to receive it having had her world collapse around her.

  47. from what i know of the military…and i live at CFB Edmonton as a proud military wife…when a soldier turns their kit in they sign it in and give it to the next soldier to use…would you want to use the kit of a sadistic murderer? glad they burned them and glad the world knows it ! hes a disgrace!!!

  48. at least one thing we can agree on as a whole is that this man was a sick human being!……i wouldnt want to go near his uniform, so i can see y it was burned, but what about the rest of his things? what if all his clothes were sent to goodwill?ppl would be buying his stuff without knowing….? and there would be no problem ….just a thought…… p.s the military should think about rebuilding its relationship with canadians here in canada so that we can once again trust and kno that they are not all monsters…… some are actually heroes!!! …..

  49. at least one thing we can agree on as a whole is that this man was a sick human being!……i wouldnt want to go near his uniform, so i can see y it was burned, but what about the rest of his things? what if all his clothes were sent to goodwill?ppl would be buying his stuff without knowing….? and there would be no problem ….just a thought…… p.s the military should think about rebuilding its relationship with canadians here in canada so that we can once again trust and kno that they are not all monsters…… some are actually heroes!!! …..

  50. Military personal for the most part seem to have a sick obsession with sex. Had many neighbors from military background that have made me sick with their perversion with sex and it's scary to see what their children and spouses are subjested too. I think miltary families are in deep domestic trouble and my heart goes out to young inocent children. This needs to be addressed.

  51. Military personal for the most part seem to have a sick obsession with sex. Had many neighbors from military background that have made me sick with their perversion with sex and it's scary to see what their children and spouses are subjested too. I think miltary families are in deep domestic trouble and my heart goes out to young inocent children. This needs to be addressed.

    • Worried Citizen….I'm not sure where you get your information but I have been a military spouse for over 26 years and have live all over this wonderful country of ours both on military bases and off them and I assure you that military members as well as their families are no more obsessed with sex as non-military families. Myself as well as my children are well adjusted professionals who do not have domestic troubles. My suggestion to you is to go out and meet some soldiers and their families and see what "normal" folk we actually are. Do not lump all military members as well as their families in the same group with this sick individual. Individuals like Mr. Williams do not define the military and the type of people who wear the uniforms….

    • My goodness 'worried citizen', what an uneducated, slanderous comment to make in an open form! That's like saying all RCMP officers kick people in the face upon arrest – this is simply not the case.
      I am a proud, well adjusted spouse (of 21 years) of a proud, upstanding military member who I can assure you is not a pervert, nor are our children in jeopardy. I really wish people would think before they make these comments as words have power and those who choose to slander anyone person or group without just cause can hurt a lot of people.
      What that monster did is a true crime but he did not commit the crimes because he was a member of our fine military, he was, unfortunately, a member who committed the most heinous of crimes!
      Think before you make another statement like this.

  52. Although I agree with most comments here, I believe that the main reason for burning the uniform(s) was so that the military could, in fact, protect the uniform.
    By burning this one uniform, they have prevented any piece of military clothing, worn by this monster, from going "missing" and ending up for auction on e-bay. Although there are quite a number of sick individuals in prison, there are still plenty of them out on the street…many who would pay a hefty price for the clothes of a murderer.
    If a piece of Charles Manson's clothing came up for sale, the price would skyrocket…the same holds true for Williams.

    As well as the reason that I just stated, I believe that this was a very painful time for many members of our military. The action of truly removing Williams from the military and destroying any personal attachment that he had with his position (clothing, boots, etc.), can been seen as a healing and cathartic action that will give some a greater piece of mind.

  53. Although I agree with most comments here, I believe that the main reason for burning the uniform(s) was so that the military could, in fact, protect the uniform.
    By burning this one uniform, they have prevented any piece of military clothing, worn by this monster, from going "missing" and ending up for auction on e-bay. Although there are quite a number of sick individuals in prison, there are still plenty of them out on the street…many who would pay a hefty price for the clothes of a murderer.
    If a piece of Charles Manson's clothing came up for sale, the price would skyrocket…the same holds true for Williams.

    As well as the reason that I just stated, I believe that this was a very painful time for many members of our military. The action of truly removing Williams from the military and destroying any personal attachment that he had with his position (clothing, boots, etc.), can been seen as a healing and cathartic action that will give some a greater piece of mind.

  54. CRW, you must one of the less fortunate then. My husband is a 30yr member of the Canadian Military and has done his tours in Afghanistan, the Gulf war etc and has NEVER been shunned. He was offered any and all assistance he needed to his 'head' back together and more. His unit, and his superiors could not have been more helpful. ((btw, he was RCR in the beginning years of his enlisting)

  55. What bothers me about this whole thing is the fact this man travelled the world and simply had to be doing this in other countries. I bet the list goes on and on….what a sickening feeling it gives me.

  56. What bothers me about this whole thing is the fact this man travelled the world and simply had to be doing this in other countries. I bet the list goes on and on….what a sickening feeling it gives me.

  57. The burning of William's uniform ensures that items don't end up on kijiji or e-bay as collectors items for some wealthy sicko. This way, he will never be glorified and he can fade into obscurity where he belongs. I hope they got it all!

  58. Worried Citizen….I'm not sure where you get your information but I have been a military spouse for over 26 years and have live all over this wonderful country of ours both on military bases and off them and I assure you that military members as well as their families are no more obsessed with sex as non-military families. Myself as well as my children are well adjusted professionals who do not have domestic troubles. My suggestion to you is to go out and meet some soldiers and their families and see what "normal" folk we actually are. Do not lump all military members as well as their families in the same group with this sick individual. Individuals like Mr. Williams do not define the military and the type of people who wear the uniforms….

  59. His pension must go to his wife. She did not have any role on his brutal murders.
    Grow up people. Canada is democracy and she sacrificed her time, her beauty with him while she was absolutely clueless about his crimes. She should not be punished for his crimes- Period.

  60. His pension must go to his wife. She did not have any role on his brutal murders.
    Grow up people. Canada is democracy and she sacrificed her time, her beauty with him while she was absolutely clueless about his crimes. She should not be punished for his crimes- Period.

  61. My goodness 'worried citizen', what an uneducated, slanderous comment to make in an open form! That's like saying all RCMP officers kick people in the face upon arrest – this is simply not the case.
    I am a proud, well adjusted spouse (of 21 years) of a proud, upstanding military member who I can assure you is not a pervert, nor are our children in jeopardy. I really wish people would think before they make these comments as words have power and those who choose to slander anyone person or group without just cause can hurt a lot of people.
    What that monster did is a true crime but he did not commit the crimes because he was a member of our fine military, he was, unfortunately, a member who committed the most heinous of crimes!
    Think before you make another statement like this.

  62. I am many generation Canadian and some family were in the military. If it wasn't for our military, where would we be be now? I agree that they burned William's uniform. How could he speak at a military meeting as if he didn't have a care in the world, after murdering the woman just a few hours ago with a smile on his face. He used his high military station and got away with things. Thank god he got caught before he murdered more.One bad apple, there are many good ones. We have a lot of respect for the rest of the armed forces.
    William's is a sicko.

  63. I am many generation Canadian and some family were in the military. If it wasn't for our military, where would we be be now? I agree that they burned William's uniform. How could he speak at a military meeting as if he didn't have a care in the world, after murdering the woman just a few hours ago with a smile on his face. He used his high military station and got away with things. Thank god he got caught before he murdered more.One bad apple, there are many good ones. We have a lot of respect for the rest of the armed forces.
    William's is a sicko.

  64. I would put any amount of money on the fact that he murdered more than 2 people.

  65. I would put any amount of money on the fact that he murdered more than 2 people.

  66. from what i know of the military…and i live at CFB Edmonton as a proud military wife…when a soldier turns their kit in they sign it in and give it to the next soldier to use…would you want to use the kit of a sadistic murderer? glad they burned them and glad the world knows it ! hes a disgrace!!!