Muskoka handed $50 million for 'inconvenience' of hosting G8 - Macleans.ca
 

Muskoka handed $50 million for ‘inconvenience’ of hosting G8

Toronto shut out of ‘legacy’ spending spree


 

The federal government compensated the Muskoka region to the tune of $50 million for “inconveniences” related to hosting world leaders during the G8 summit. Toronto, on the other hand, had no such luck—despite the security issues, closed streets and businesses, and damages to property that occurred during the G20 in the city. Federal officials said much of the generous funding for G8 “legacy” projects was never meant for the summit, but rather as payback to people in the Parry Sound-Muskoka region, a riding held by Industry Minister Tony Clement. Residents across Muskoka saw new sidewalks, public washrooms, bridges and a resurfaced airport runway paid for by the summit “slush” fund, opposition MPs charged Thursday. Many have questioned why Toronto, which hosted the larger G20 meeting and was ground zero for the protesters, was denied similar financial help. So far, officials have been unable to explain why Toronto wasn’t compensated as well.

Toronto Star


 
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Muskoka handed $50 million for ‘inconvenience’ of hosting G8

  1. This is BS. Tony sure knows how to bring home the bacon all right.

  2. This is BS. Tony sure knows how to bring home the bacon all right.

  3. Not-so-subtle message to Toronto: You wanna ride on the gravy train? Stop sending Libs and Dippers to Ottawa. Choo! Choo!

  4. Not-so-subtle message to Toronto: You wanna ride on the gravy train? Stop sending Libs and Dippers to Ottawa. Choo! Choo!

    • Perhaps you have another report to refute the AG's?

      This report is evidence that when senior officials give priority to large initiatives like the Economic Action Plan, public servants rise to the challenge. It shows not only that government is able to pull together and react quickly to urgent and unforeseen situations such as the global economic downturn, but also that it does a good job of managing the delivery of ongoing large and complex programs such as Employment Insurance and child and family benefits. Our positive findings speak to the effort that public servants put into ensuring that they serve Canadians well and look for ways to continuously improve. -Auditor General Sheila Fraser http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/docs/parl_oag_2

      • Thanks for the information, but there were a couple of sentences in the original story that speak to my concern — which is why Tony's riding got money, and Toronto did not (the information you have provided doesn't clear that up… at all).

        To wit: "Bureaucrats said the legacy fund was no different than other funds put in place in Canadian cities that hosted world events — $60 million for Vancouver in 1997 for hosting APEC and some $13 million for Halifax for the 1995 G7 summit… Yet officials were unable to explain why Toronto — which saw its downtown core virtually shut down for the G20 summit — wasn't compensated as well."

        Until they can explain that, I won't be backing down from my little jab.

        As far as the summit costs are concerned, my concerns are not related to the glow sticks and fake lakes, it's related to the fact that the two summits were held in two locations, greatly increasing the expense of the affair needlessly. I've yet to hear a good reason why it was held in two places.

        • I can't possibly explain why Toronto did not get any of the legacy funding. We can share our opinion or project our motivation as to what took place. Balance is short supply here.

          It is easy for partisans from each camp to be blind or unfair regarding this decision. I pointed to the AG report because it demonstrated the rules in place were NOT broken with a much bigger program. The Report was glowing praise for the massive spending. She also had good words for the mission a few months ago regarding aid in Afghanistan.

          My point is we are caught up in playing gotcha we don't wait for the actual facts. I accept many posters don't like the Conservative government but they are also smearing the good work of the military, civil servants are not partisan.

          We can be critical for wasted money on parades, festival, Clinton CNE or CFL game etc (Marquis Funding year one vs years two smaller events)

          Kevin Page report on summit transparency was ignored because it did not help the opposition. Selective or cherry picking seems to be a sign of no pattern of bad behaviour or agenda by this government.

          It is possible the controversy is being over blown?

          • I'd agree that glow stick/fake lake part of the controversy is overblown… but if there was any part of the summit that was questionable, it was why it was held in two places, which requires many of the costs to be doubled (more or less). I appreciate that the government has been transparent with what has been spent… but why two sites? And why did Muskoka get money, and TO not get money (although the up-side is that at least money was only spent on one site instead of two!)

          • I don't work for the government. I also don't feel compelled to defend boneheaded decisions.

            I don't see any level government as all seeing or all knowing. Mistakes are made and bad decisions cost lives and money.

            Is the advice given to them faulty, did they not listen to the advice? Don't know. The international media did not share the same views of the Canadian media or opposition parties.

            Reminds me of the controversy created in our Canadian media and opposition parties of our PM arriving 120 seconds behind Obama for a group photo of the G20. (It is funny stuff, but not important)

            Who is talking about Canada's G8-G20?
            1) Anti-globalists
            2) Opposition MPs
            3) Canadians News outlets
            4) Political junkies on blogs

            This is just smoke and mirrors (noise to me).

            Ballots, financial health of the political organization count. How is each party doing vs last year?

            If the Liberal tours are doing so well why have the donors and dollars dropped off so much? Global recession? The gap started in 2004, it have been over six years. Where are those supporters?

    • comeuppance…looks good on them.

  5. It would be cheaper, and just as effective, to go door to door in Muskoka and hand each resident a bag full of cash.

    Each bag could bear the Conservative logo and pictures of Harper and Clement. And the bag could include a flyer that outlines the dangers of the Evil Separatist/Socialist Coalition. Hey, why not?

    This government is disgusting.

  6. It would be cheaper, and just as effective, to go door to door in Muskoka and hand each resident a bag full of cash.

    Each bag could bear the Conservative logo and pictures of Harper and Clement. And the bag could include a flyer that outlines the dangers of the Evil Separatist/Socialist Coalition. Hey, why not?

    This government is disgusting.

  7. A quote from CTV back in May 2010 showing just how excited Muskoka region was about getting the G8 Summit. Note that there is no mention of "inconveniences" that might be experienced:

    "…But White acknowledges the G8 summit is "a historic milestone" for the resort and the region, which will give both an international exposure they have never had before.

    "Right now, we're all about getting ready for the event and making sure we're properly prepared to host the world," White told CTV.ca in a recent telephone interview from Toronto.

    At the Huntsville Public Library, Roberta Green concurs the G8 is likely the biggest event in recent memory.

    "I don't remember anything else of this magnitude," said Green, who has worked with local history matters at the library for the past 15 years…""

    Ms. White is the director of public relations at the Deerhurst Resort where the summit was held.

    With the revelation of an additional $50 million in compensation to be paid for "inconveniences" experienced by Muskoka residents who really wanted the G8 Summit, I hereby volunteer to hold a future Summit in my backyard provided that I am accorded a similar compensation package post-Summit by the government of the day.

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/

  8. A quote from CTV back in May 2010 showing just how excited Muskoka region was about getting the G8 Summit. Note that there is no mention of "inconveniences" that might be experienced:

    "…But White acknowledges the G8 summit is "a historic milestone" for the resort and the region, which will give both an international exposure they have never had before.

    "Right now, we're all about getting ready for the event and making sure we're properly prepared to host the world," White told CTV.ca in a recent telephone interview from Toronto.

    At the Huntsville Public Library, Roberta Green concurs the G8 is likely the biggest event in recent memory.

    "I don't remember anything else of this magnitude," said Green, who has worked with local history matters at the library for the past 15 years…""

    Ms. White is the director of public relations at the Deerhurst Resort where the summit was held.

    With the revelation of an additional $50 million in compensation to be paid for "inconveniences" experienced by Muskoka residents who really wanted the G8 Summit, I hereby volunteer to hold a future Summit in my backyard provided that I am accorded a similar compensation package post-Summit by the government of the day.

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/

  9. I'm sure the hardworking, salt-of-the-earth denizens of Muskoka cottages (Spielberg, Hanks, Crawford, Hawn, captains of Canadian Industry, millionaire sports stars, etc.) really appreciate the gazebos and upgraded access roads to their marinas and country clubs. Unlike those spoiled champagne-sipping elites in downtown Toronto.

    What's $50 million here and ANOTHER $50 million there, anyway?:

    "A Toronto Star investigation found that, besides the G8 summit funds, Ottawa funneled another $50 million into the riding of 90,000 people in the past few years. Under a range of federal programs, money has been found for almost every conceivable project in the riding, including fire halls, train stations, curling clubs, parks, bike paths, community centres, car pool systems, college dorms, museums and health programs."

  10. I'm sure the hardworking, salt-of-the-earth denizens of Muskoka cottages (Spielberg, Hanks, Crawford, Hawn, captains of Canadian Industry, millionaire sports stars, etc.) really appreciate the gazebos and upgraded access roads to their marinas and country clubs. Unlike those spoiled champagne-sipping elites in downtown Toronto.

    What's $50 million here and ANOTHER $50 million there, anyway?:

    "A Toronto Star investigation found that, besides the G8 summit funds, Ottawa funneled another $50 million into the riding of 90,000 people in the past few years. Under a range of federal programs, money has been found for almost every conceivable project in the riding, including fire halls, train stations, curling clubs, parks, bike paths, community centres, car pool systems, college dorms, museums and health programs."

  11. I wonder.. has anybody seen Gagliano and Clement in the same room?

  12. I wonder.. has anybody seen Gagliano and Clement in the same room?

  13. Maybe they are going to compensate the people in the 906 area who couldn't get to their plush offices in downtown T.O.. If what Muskoka received is any indication, that could happen, anytime now.

  14. Maybe they are going to compensate the people in the 906 area who couldn't get to their plush offices in downtown T.O.. If what Muskoka received is any indication, that could happen, anytime now.

  15. Guess that's why Clement is known as "Landslide Tony"…besides being a reference to the size of his electoral margin, it's a comment on the avalanche of slush money pouring into his riding.

  16. Guess that's why Clement is known as "Landslide Tony"…besides being a reference to the size of his electoral margin, it's a comment on the avalanche of slush money pouring into his riding.

  17. Further proof Liberals MP's in Toronto obsession on "glow sticks" did not go over well. Next time Liberals should be more cooperative by regularly showing up for work and votes in parliament and the senate.

    For the reflective pool Liberals (@ $57k each that is 877 pools)

  18. Further proof Liberals MP's in Toronto obsession on "glow sticks" did not go over well. Next time Liberals should be more cooperative by regularly showing up for work and votes in parliament and the senate.

    For the reflective pool Liberals (@ $57k each that is 877 pools)

  19. Seriously – so sad that government is so petty and narrow.

  20. Seriously – so sad that government is so petty and narrow.

  21. Once again the Conservatives demonstrate an utter contempt for Toronto.

  22. Once again the Conservatives demonstrate an utter contempt for Toronto.

    • Interesting scapegoating Toronto voters for sending ineffective MPs to Ottawa.

      Don't worry the Rob Ford victory won't be the last rebuke to end the Liberal fantasy land.

      • So in other words, voting Tory=cash in hand?

        • Feel free to contact the police if you have any proof of illegal activities.

          The AG Report praised the Government and the employees. The failure of Liberal MPs and lack of accountability are over. Cheer up.

          Canada was the last to enter the recession and first to exit in the G7.

          Let's hope the taxpayers in Ontario, BC and Quebec get the accountability in their provincial governments through a change in government that is sorely lacking today.

          Feel free to ask Liberal George Smitherman or Liberal Carolyn Parrish how balanced or decision making was done.

          • Canada was the last to enter the recession and first to exit in the G7.

            Oh we’re out already?

            GET REAL!

      • Not-so-subtle message to Toronto: You wanna ride on the gravy train? Stop sending Libs and Dippers to Ottawa. Choo! Choo! (Bears repeating.)

        • That is the message the Liberal and NDP want to project? This is counter productive.

          A) the projects are not worthwhile
          B) All three levels of government were involved
          C) Cooperation with the Federal government across party lines is not in the best interests of residents

          Jason Kenney has Vaughan MP on board and his party pulled the rug from under him. The NDP and Bloc both came forward and help pass the bill.

          This minority government has been given confidence since 2006 by at least one party to keep its mandate. I understand the opposition can't appear to be too friendly or cooperative but the votes in parliament tell a very different story.

      • Once again the Conservative attitude is one of refusing to govern for anyone but their supporters. Hey, we send our taxes to Ottawa, and that should be enough.

        • Dan you apparently don't believe voters are smart.

          They rejected the MSM talking points and rose up in large numbers to elect Ford. They have dumped Liberals in Vaughan and Winnipeg North.

          Voters choose who they think is the best person to represent their interest. Kevin has a long history in the community in Winnipeg and in spite of the Liberals brand carried the riding away from Jack and Judy.

          Fantino in spite of the attacks from CBC-Toronto Star won the Liberal Party held riding for 22 years.

          You feel incumbency is an entitlement. Voters dumped the Liberals and NDP leaders in long held ridings.

          Chief and Genco did not have as deep roots, success in the community vs their opponents.

  23. Interesting scapegoating Toronto voters for sending ineffective MPs to Ottawa.

    Don't worry the Rob Ford victory won't be the last rebuke to end the Liberal fantasy land.

  24. Perhaps you have another report to refute the AG's?

    This report is evidence that when senior officials give priority to large initiatives like the Economic Action Plan, public servants rise to the challenge. It shows not only that government is able to pull together and react quickly to urgent and unforeseen situations such as the global economic downturn, but also that it does a good job of managing the delivery of ongoing large and complex programs such as Employment Insurance and child and family benefits. Our positive findings speak to the effort that public servants put into ensuring that they serve Canadians well and look for ways to continuously improve. -Auditor General Sheila Fraser http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/docs/parl_oag_2

  25. So in other words, voting Tory=cash in hand?

  26. Feel free to contact the police if you have any proof of illegal activities.

    The AG Report praised the Government and the employees. The failure of Liberal MPs and lack of accountability are over. Cheer up.

    Canada was the last to enter the recession and first to exit in the G7.

    Let's hope the taxpayers in Ontario, BC and Quebec get the accountability in their provincial governments through a change in government that is sorely lacking today.

    Feel free to ask Liberal George Smitherman or Liberal Carolyn Parrish how balanced or decision making was done.

  27. Canada was the last to enter the recession and first to exit in the G7.

    Oh we’re out already?

    GET REAL!

  28. Thanks for the information, but there were a couple of sentences in the original story that speak to my concern — which is why Tony's riding got money, and Toronto did not (the information you have provided doesn't clear that up… at all).

    To wit: "Bureaucrats said the legacy fund was no different than other funds put in place in Canadian cities that hosted world events — $60 million for Vancouver in 1997 for hosting APEC and some $13 million for Halifax for the 1995 G7 summit… Yet officials were unable to explain why Toronto — which saw its downtown core virtually shut down for the G20 summit — wasn't compensated as well."

    Until they can explain that, I won't be backing down from my little jab.

    As far as the summit costs are concerned, my concerns are not related to the glow sticks and fake lakes, it's related to the fact that the two summits were held in two locations, greatly increasing the expense of the affair needlessly. I've yet to hear a good reason why it was held in two places.

  29. Not-so-subtle message to Toronto: You wanna ride on the gravy train? Stop sending Libs and Dippers to Ottawa. Choo! Choo! (Bears repeating.)

  30. I can't possibly explain why Toronto did not get any of the legacy funding. We can share our opinion or project our motivation as to what took place. Balance is short supply here.

    It is easy for partisans from each camp to be blind or unfair regarding this decision. I pointed to the AG report because it demonstrated the rules in place were NOT broken with a much bigger program. The Report was glowing praise for the massive spending. She also had good words for the mission a few months ago regarding aid in Afghanistan.

    My point is we are caught up in playing gotcha we don't wait for the actual facts. I accept many posters don't like the Conservative government but they are also smearing the good work of the military, civil servants are not partisan.

    We can be critical for wasted money on parades, festival, Clinton CNE or CFL game etc (Marquis Funding year one vs years two smaller events)

    Kevin Page report on summit transparency was ignored because it did not help the opposition. Selective or cherry picking seems to be a sign of no pattern of bad behaviour or agenda by this government.

    It is possible the controversy is being over blown?

  31. That is the message the Liberal and NDP want to project? This is counter productive.

    A) the projects are not worthwhile
    B) All three levels of government were involved
    C) Cooperation with the Federal government across party lines is not in the best interests of residents

    Jason Kenney has Vaughan MP on board and his party pulled the rug from under him. The NDP and Bloc both came forward and help pass the bill.

    This minority government has been given confidence since 2006 by at least one party to keep its mandate. I understand the opposition can't appear to be too friendly or cooperative but the votes in parliament tell a very different story.

  32. I'd agree that glow stick/fake lake part of the controversy is overblown… but if there was any part of the summit that was questionable, it was why it was held in two places, which requires many of the costs to be doubled (more or less). I appreciate that the government has been transparent with what has been spent… but why two sites? And why did Muskoka get money, and TO not get money (although the up-side is that at least money was only spent on one site instead of two!)

  33. Wasn't the total costs of the summits 2 billion$? Where did the last $1,950 million go? (Toronto)

  34. Wasn't the total costs of the summits 2 billion$? Where did the last $1,950 million go? (Toronto)

  35. I don't work for the government. I also don't feel compelled to defend boneheaded decisions.

    I don't see any level government as all seeing or all knowing. Mistakes are made and bad decisions cost lives and money.

    Is the advice given to them faulty, did they not listen to the advice? Don't know. The international media did not share the same views of the Canadian media or opposition parties.

    Reminds me of the controversy created in our Canadian media and opposition parties of our PM arriving 120 seconds behind Obama for a group photo of the G20. (It is funny stuff, but not important)

    Who is talking about Canada's G8-G20?
    1) Anti-globalists
    2) Opposition MPs
    3) Canadians News outlets
    4) Political junkies on blogs

    This is just smoke and mirrors (noise to me).

    Ballots, financial health of the political organization count. How is each party doing vs last year?

    If the Liberal tours are doing so well why have the donors and dollars dropped off so much? Global recession? The gap started in 2004, it have been over six years. Where are those supporters?

  36. comeuppance…looks good on them.

  37. This would have come out sooner, but there were a few streets which voted mainly Liberal and they had to figure out how to divide the money "equitably".

  38. This would have come out sooner, but there were a few streets which voted mainly Liberal and they had to figure out how to divide the money "equitably".

  39. It's because no one cares about Toronto.

  40. It's because no one cares about Toronto.

  41. Once again the Conservative attitude is one of refusing to govern for anyone but their supporters. Hey, we send our taxes to Ottawa, and that should be enough.

  42. Dan you apparently don't believe voters are smart.

    They rejected the MSM talking points and rose up in large numbers to elect Ford. They have dumped Liberals in Vaughan and Winnipeg North.

    Voters choose who they think is the best person to represent their interest. Kevin has a long history in the community in Winnipeg and in spite of the Liberals brand carried the riding away from Jack and Judy.

    Fantino in spite of the attacks from CBC-Toronto Star won the Liberal Party held riding for 22 years.

    You feel incumbency is an entitlement. Voters dumped the Liberals and NDP leaders in long held ridings.

    Chief and Genco did not have as deep roots, success in the community vs their opponents.

  43. What are you talking about? I have not said anything about incumbency, you presume far too much about why Toronto has not elected a Con MP. It has to do with the simple reality that there many people in Toronto who do not find that the Cons have something to offer them. If you think that we in Toronto are just electing Liberals/NDP because of incumbency then you are truly the one who believes voters are stupid.

  44. "Once again the Conservatives demonstrate an utter contempt for Toronto. "-Dan

    Feel free to deny the spin from Toronto Star article.

    You remind me of those left wing pinkos on Toronto Council that wanted to delay, keep the 48 million tax grab on car owners for more "study" and fairness.

    I had no idea Rob Ford was a socialist. How is that left wing pinko City council working out for you?

  45. "Once again the Conservatives demonstrate an utter contempt for Toronto. "-Dan

    Feel free to deny the spin from Toronto Star article.

    You remind me of those left wing pinkos on Toronto Council that wanted to delay, keep the 48 million tax grab on car owners for more "study" and fairness.

    I had no idea Rob Ford was a socialist. How is that left wing pinko City council working out for you?