No Gays in US Hospitals?

RCP has the text of the speech up already.

Overall, it didn’t do much for me. A lot of blah blah blah… Hillary gave the best speech of the convention.

I did like this passage:

The times are too serious, the stakes are too high for this same partisan playbook. So let us agree that patriotism has no party. I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain. The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a Red America or a Blue America – they have served the United States of America.

But I’m still scratching my head over this:

I know there are differences on same-sex marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital and to live lives free of discrimination.

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No Gays in US Hospitals?

  1. Family visiting hours? Just a guess.

  2. Maybe that’s it… didn’t think of that.

  3. Yep. In some states the legislation banning same sex marriage also bans any kind of legal status for same sex partners preventing some from being at their loved one’s side when in hospital.

  4. Man. That’s harsh.

  5. It can also affect important medical decisions when the doctors will only consult “family members.”

    As protecting rights go its pretty weak. How would he feel if somebody said ‘we can disagree about blacks being allowed into white schools, but surely we can agree everyone must be entitled to a quality education, without discrimination”

  6. Sadly Mike, given what various states referendums have said, that’s probably about as far as Obama can go without getting pilloried. There really are some significant differences between Americans and Canadians, the general recognizance that homosexuals are normal people in pretty much every way but who they like to sleep with seems to be one of them.

  7. Yeah, the main “compromise” is that Civil Unions would allow gay couples to consider partners as family members when it comes to hospitals, insurance, taxes, etc.

  8. Actually visitation rights have been issue for a long time. Especially if the family disagrees.

    For some gay couples, the family of someone who is in hospital dying ban their homosexual partner from visiting. Under civil unions or other arrangements, the partner would have some standing and be allowed to visit, and be present during a hospital visit.

  9. Hillary gave the best speech of the convention???

    Now I can’t take anything that you write seriously.

  10. Andrew, in the US, only family members are allowed to see patients in the ICU or the ER. Gay and lesbian partners aren’t considered family members.

    This happened to my friend. Her girlfriend of 10 years had a terrible accident but she was not allowed to see her before and after the surgery. She wasn’t even allowed to receive information about her condition.

  11. Does anyone know offhand what the corresponding regulations are in Canadian hospitals, for same-sex non-spouses?

  12. if it’s any different from opposite-sex non-spouses, they’d have a human rights complaint on their hands, and a much stronger one than the complaint against Steyn. And a common-law spouse would have to be treated the same as an offical spouse. (Although making that determination on the spot is probably difficult for a medical professional, so I have no idea how it happens in practice.)

  13. Yeah,Andrew the US is a harsh place for gays and lesbians and if McCain and his new anti gay VP Sarah Palin are elected it won’t get any better and will probably get a whole lot worse,especially vis a vis the Supreme Court.Care to imagine more judges like Scalia and Thomas?

  14. David Gergen, an advisor to four presidents (Democrat and Republican) called the Obama speech “brilliant”, as an analyst on CNN.

    Who to listen to? Potter or Gergen? Methinks I’ll pick the latter.

  15. I can believe this happens, even in Canada. Not everyone goes around making a federal case out of the petty discrimination that comes their way. Officiousness relies on it.

  16. You are confused that Sen. Obama believes everyone deserves equal rights?… Or did you want to know if that was true or not. Because it does happen, sadly. I guess “I’m still scratching my head” concerning your confusion.

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