Obama’s health care bill passes

Historic health care reforms narrowly voted in by US House of Representatives

With 219 votes for and 212 against, President Barack Obama’s controversial health care bill—receiving no Republican backing—has been voted into law. The event is being touted as Obama’s most significant victory since his election 16 months ago, extending health coverage to 32 million more Americans. The legislation will also contain measures to prohibit restrictive insurance practices—such as refusing to cover individuals with pre-existing medical conditions—and imposes new taxes on the wealthy. The bill was strongly opposed by Republicans, who felt that the reforms represented a government takeover of the health care industry, in addition to being too costly. The win is in part thanks to Obama’s last-minute lobbying of a bloc of anti-abortion lawmakers, who came over to his side late Sunday after Obama announced that the reform will not change existing restrictions barring federal money from being used for abortion.

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Obama’s health care bill passes

  1. yay?

  2. Well, there was a bipartisan effort associated with this bill. Opposition was bipartisan. Support was partisan.

    Good luck with that, USA. Shame about that Constitution, eh?

    • "Shame about that Constitution, eh? "

      Hey, leave Bush/Cheney out of this… they had nothing to do with this wonderful thing, Obamacare.

      • I'm just looking forward to not having to hear about health-care at every turn. Maybe we can just get back to watching the Americans lose their minds on a bunch of other topics.

    • Just curious, how do you think this violates the constitution?

      • Several states' attorneys general believe so. The best, most reasoned discussion I have seen lately is the following:

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti

        … in which Barnett lays out the violations, but also does not predict a successful challenge. Elsewher, Barnett offers:

        http://volokh.com/2010/03/21/is-health-care-refor

        <quote>Ultimately, there are three ways to think about whether a law is constitutional: Does it conflict with what the Constitution says? Does it conflict with what the Supreme Court has said? Will five justices accept a particular argument?</quote>

        There's the rub. Will the US Supreme Court tolerate the federal government as it coerces The People into entering into a contractual fiduciary relationship with an insurance company, under threat of legal sanction? How is the "general welfare" served by the Cornhusker Kickback? Etc.

        • Hm. The pages you link to are gone now, but the logic you lay out seems reasonable because I know the states have much stronger lines drawn against the federal government there than they do here.

          However, forcing people to have insurance isn't new. Countries with the best health care systems in the world (France, Germany) do the same thing, albeit they have a public option as well as the privates.

  3. " The win is in part thanks to Obama's last-minute lobbying of a bloc of anti-abortion lawmakers, who came over to his side late Sunday after Obama announced that the reform will not change existing restrictions barring federal money from being used for abortion."

    Yeah, that's going to last. What the hell were they thinking.

    • "We got an executive order banning abortion funding put in, it's won't be our fault when the (Supreme Court/Future President) takes it out"

  4. Stupak's opponent gained several thousand members on his facebook in an hour or so.

    Conservative and independent comment boards and call ins are lighting up with rage like never before seen.

    The Dems ignored the polls and their contstuents' town halls at their peril. Drunk with power, thier November hangover will be a nasty one.

    The irony is the Dems faith in the European style welfare state, at the precise time Europeans are recognizing it doesn't work.

  5. It is good to see the US moving towards a policy that is consistent with Christianity rather than Christianism.

  6. Obamacare is not the end of the world, nor is it the Second Coming of Christ.

    [Oh wait a minute. That's the same day!]

  7. What is most telling about this "reform" is the deafening silence from the Health Insurance and Pharma lobbies, which can only mean that they expect to make out like bandits from this! Obama managed the trick of acceding to all of their demands and to maintain their monopolies, all the while calling them out as the great satan to be defeated!

    Yay indeed!

    • Try paying attention.

      In fact, there's a more recent story here on this very site that points out how wrong you are.

  8. Would be helpful to see what exactly is in the bill that has been passed.
    A listing of key points even.
    Perhaps Bill S. ^ is right because I thought there would be even more of a kerfuffle. Still, maybe it's a start..

    • Here are ten benefits which come online within six months of the President's signature on the health care bill:

      1. Adult children may remain as dependents on their parents' policy until their 27th birthday
      2. Children under age 19 may not be excluded for pre-existing conditions
      3. No more lifetime or annual caps on coverage
      4. Free preventative care for all
      5. Adults with pre-existing conditions may buy into a national high-risk pool until the exchanges come online. While these will not be cheap, they're still better than total exclusion and get some benefit from a wider pool of insureds.
      6. Small businesses will be entitled to a tax credit for 2009 and 2010, which could be as much as 50% of what they pay for employees' health insurance.
      7. The “donut hole” closes for Medicare patients, making prescription medications more affordable for seniors.
      8. Requirement that all insurers must post their balance sheets on the Internet and fully disclose administrative costs, executive compensation packages, and benefit payments.
      9. Authorizes early funding of community health centers in all 50 states (Bernie Sanders' amendment). Community health centers provide primary, dental and vision services to people in the community, based on a sliding scale for payment according to ability to pay.
      10. AND no more rescissions. Effective immediately, you can't lose your insurance because you get sick.

      http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/what-you-get-whe

  9. I was curious to see if anyone could get any form of public health care through the machine know as US politics. I cannot imagine how hard it must be to try to reason with people that say they "don't want no damn socialist health care" affecting their "health care industry". Yikes… though I notice their 'socialist' fire and police services seem to be accepted.

  10. I think that Obama has done a great job in bringing the US population public health insurance. I think that it is an integral part of the UK and other nations' public life. In many ways, access to healthcare is a basic human right. I have been following developments at the insurance index that lists health insurance sites at http://www.dozeninsurance.com recently. I feel that Obama is doing a good job for the USA overall, it has only been a year. So let's stop giving him a hard time and let him get on with his job. After all, he is a doing a lot better than the previous President ever did.

  11. I think that Obama has done a great job in bringing the US population public health insurance. I think that it is an integral part of the UK and other nations' public life. In many ways, access to healthcare is a basic human right. I have been following developments at the insurance index that lists health insurance sites at http://www.dozeninsurance.com recently. I feel that Obama is doing a good job for the USA overall, it has only been a year. So let's stop giving him a hard time and let him get on with his job. After all, he is a doing a lot better than the previous President ever did.

  12. I very much admired with Barack Obama.He seems to be a great leader for me and I think for the entire world who loves peace.And there are great members in the Obama Administration and all are doing great job not only in health care also improving small scale business and all other.

  13. That's a good point for the country. Of course nothing is perfect, but it can make it better.

  14. I think health care is facing more number of problem than the other.

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