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One of these things is just like the other

Andrew Potter on Harper’s loyalty to Canada


 
One of these things is just like the other

Sean Kilpatrick/CP

After a week of strutting and taunting and double-dog-daring, it doesn’t look like Stephen Harper and Michael Ignatieff will be going head to head in a televised debate. Which is good news, since it means Canadians will be spared the spectacle of watching two men fight to lead a country that neither has ever shown much interest in, or loyalty toward. For months leading up to the election, Conservative attack ads pressed home the point that Michael Ignatieff didn’t go to Ottawa for you. The problem is, neither did Stephen Harper.

The questions surrounding Ignatieff’s commitment to Canada are well known. When he wandered up from Harvard and presented himself as a candidate for leader of the Liberal party almost six years ago, he arrived with a great deal of baggage, most of it covered in travel stickers from places that were a long way from Canada. Some of that baggage was ideological, such as his support for such decidedly non-Liberal adventures as the 2003 invasion of Iraq. But the biggest problem was what became known as his “pronoun problem.” After a quarter of a century spent anywhere but here, he had taken to using the first-person plural (we, our) when talking to people who weren’t Canadians.

Ignatieff has never completely shaken that stigma. And while his political supporters and allies in the press like to accuse anyone who brings it up of xenophobia, it’s a real problem. While two generations of Liberals were engaged in the most wrenching fights in this country’s history, Ignatieff was travelling the world, making documentaries and writing novels and popular philosophy. That isn’t to belittle the work he was doing; he just didn’t betray any great concern for the land of his birth.

And beyond the sheer length of his absence, Ignatieff proudly adopted the pose of the upper-crust cosmopolitan in much of his writing. Even when he said nice things about Canada, as at the end of the preface to his 2000 Massey Lectures, it was with a dash of condescension: “The exercise of writing these lectures has deepened my attachment to the place on Earth that, if I needed one, I would call home.” It would seem that countries, like taxes, are for little people.

But if anything, Stephen Harper’s commitment to Canada is even more suspect. If Ignatieff spent most of his life ignoring Canada while promenading in the grander salons of the world, Harper has come at it from the opposite direction. Even though he grew up in Toronto’s placid Leaside neighbourhood, he quickly adopted the colonial mindset of the insecure migrant, becoming culturally more Albertan than Albertans. Harper even has his own version of Ignatieff’s pronoun problem—the infamous Alberta Agenda letter he co-signed after the 2000 election and sent to Ralph Klein, encouraging him to “build firewalls” around the province to protect it from “an aggressive and hostile federal government.”

Setting aside the firewall letter, Harper has never really hidden his disdain for parts of Canada that aren’t as successful at digging oil out of the ground. He accused the Maritimes of having a “culture of defeat” and once said that Canada “appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status.” Never mind his own recent boasts about the economy and his education plan: these aren’t the instincts of a man blessed with an expansive and generous view of his countrymen.

And so it is that Michael Ignatieff and Stephen Harper, for all their differences in world view and intellectual temperament, have both spent their careers riffing off the same underlying theme, that Canada itself is irrelevant. Given all of this, it isn’t clear why either man wants to be prime minister. Harper—who most days could win handily an angriest-man-in-Canada competition—clearly loathes his job, the press, and the daily imperatives of life down on Supreme-Soviet-Upon-Rideau. As for Ignatieff, he has certainly worked hard to dispel suspicions that he’s off to Harvard at the first opportunity, but his job application True Patriot Love is such a cloying Via Rail portrait of Canada that it is hard to take seriously the idea that he actually believes it.

So when Canadians head to the polls on May 2, it is with the rather unpleasant knowledge that whoever ends up prime minister, we will be led by someone for whom the federal government is little more than a convenient vehicle for his own snobbery, condescension and resentment. It’s a depressing choice: Stephen Harper, the alienated and embittered Albertan, who has perhaps come to appreciate the rest of the country for which he has shown such contempt. Or Michael Ignatieff, the gallivanting, sugar-spun cosmopolitan, who has finally decided he needs a country after all.


 

One of these things is just like the other

  1. Yikes.

  2. Yikes.

  3. Andrew has fallen for the Harper schtick.

    He doesn't loathe his job. He loves it.

    He doesn't befriend the press, and intentionally provokes it, because he know that the press is fickle. If you let it build you up, if you cater to it, you give it the power to tear you down. Never let the press in, then you never have to worry about the press abandoning you, or turning on you. (See Joe Clark, Kim Campbell, Stockwell Day) The press feels neutered by Harper's refusal to be seduced by them, so they hate him, which is fine by Harper.

  4. I can see how Potter would question Ignatieff`s devotion to his home country since he spent almost all of his adult life elsewhere.
    But Harper ? That`s a stretch. C`mon—he was involved with the Young Liberals in high school—he worked for a PC candidate when he was 26—he became a Reform MP when he was 34—he led the National Citizens Coalition when he was 38—he became leader of the Canadian Alliance when he was 43 and 2 years later became the leader of the unified Conservative Party and 2 years after that became out 22nd Prime Minister. Sure, he had opinions about the regions of Canada and their place in the country, but that`s a good thing—-he thought things could be better and he lived and worked here to improve things.

    There is a part of Potter`s piece in the 5th paragraph where he accuses Harper of " becoming culturally more Albertan ". That is the key to why Potter thinks he can question Harper`s loyalty to Canada. Potter thinks that Harper`s move from Ontario to Alberta was an abandonment of his Central Canadian Citizenship. Potter may have moved from Manitoba to Ontario and he may consider that a move up the ladder but he is acting like a Ontario snob when he infers that Harper has the " colonial mindset of the insecure migrant " because he chose to spend part of his life in another part of Canada.

  5. I can see how Potter would question Ignatieff`s devotion to his home country since he spent almost all of his adult life elsewhere.
    But Harper ? That`s a stretch. C`mon—he was involved with the Young Liberals in high school—he worked for a PC candidate when he was 26—he became a Reform MP when he was 34—he led the National Citizens Coalition when he was 38—he became leader of the Canadian Alliance when he was 43 and 2 years later became the leader of the unified Conservative Party and 2 years after that became out 22nd Prime Minister. Sure, he had opinions about the regions of Canada and their place in the country, but that`s a good thing—-he thought things could be better and he lived and worked here to improve things.

    There is a part of Potter`s piece in the 5th paragraph where he accuses Harper of " becoming culturally more Albertan ". That is the key to why Potter thinks he can question Harper`s loyalty to Canada. Potter thinks that Harper`s move from Ontario to Alberta was an abandonment of his Central Canadian Citizenship. Potter may have moved from Manitoba to Ontario and he may consider that a move up the ladder but he is acting like a Ontario snob when he infers that Harper has the " colonial mindset of the insecure migrant " because he chose to spend part of his life in another part of Canada.

    • I thought Coyne was from Manitoba, is Potter as well?

    • I couldn't agree more!. I have lived in many provinces in this country, and if there is one thing I know, its that all provinces are not created equal, and that listening to the people where you live and knowing what the issues are, will make you a much more rounded Canadian. And is it a problem to know what our shortcomings are? I think it better equips you to do something about it!

      • I agree! 100%. I've been to 9 of 10 provinces. I've lived in two provinces, in the capital city, in the two largest cities and in a smaller town as well. I've spent a lot of time in the maritimes, and many trips to western Canada. Some of these places do some things well, others do other things well.

        For one thing, the differences are never as big as some people make them out to be. Geographically the differences are huge. Culturally, the difference are not so big. A lot of the same types of institutions are in place across Canada, whether it's the banks, health care, hockey, or other shared institutions.

        Secondly, I always notice the differences as well, and it's not hard to see that some places do some things better than others, some places have different concerns than others, and it make you a better person to notice these things, it doesn't make you a worse person, as Potter suggests.

        • I agree! 100%.

          ***

          Of course you do. And if it wsa reversed you'd be vehemently against it.

    • Potter thinks that Harper`s move from Ontario to Alberta was an abandonment of his Central Canadian Citizenship. Potter may have moved from Manitoba to Ontario and he may consider that a move up the ladder but he is acting like a Ontario snob

      That would be true if Potter was actually judging Harper based solely on where he moved. The fact that you dismiss the rest of his points in order to paint Potter using tired regionalistic and populist memes such as exhibiting qualities of an "Ontario snob" ironically illustrates what Potter was saying actually.

      • If you reread the last sentence of my second paragraph you will see I also addressed the accusation from Potter concerning Harper/s lack of commitment to Canada because he dared say that there could be some improvements in how different regions act and are treated.

        Ironically there would have been no need to refer to Potter as an Ontario snob if he had not chose to use the fact that Harper moved to Alberta as a reason to insinuate that he was like an insecure migrant.

    • 100% well said. This is the worst opinion piece I've ever seen in six years of reading the "new" Maclean's. The McGill Daily has done better urban-snob lefty screeds than this.

    • If this was about having a Bloc PM, we’d all be in agreement that he/she would not be for the country. The question is whether Harper is a federalist. Granted it isn’t well argued here, but he’s certain not Pursued Policy to unite the country.

  6. Hmm, I gotta say this a bit of a stretch. Having an opinion on direction of your country or some of its parts, albeit a negative one, is different than completely ignoring it.

    The issue with Mr. Ignatieff isn't the little bit of disdain that he showed toward Canada at the end of the lectures, it's the fact that he did nothing about it. He completely ignored Canada and its problems for 35 years, whereas Mr. Harper, (arguably) exhibiting the same level of disdain, tried to do something about it. I'm sorry, but I cannot see how you could possibly equate the two.

  7. How dense are people on the right wing? So what if Iggy has travelled for long periods of time? Who would you rather have leading the country. Someone who has travelled and expanded their global political views and connections; or someone who has essentially done no traveling, is narrow minded, and clearly has an inferiority complex with America? Stevie is a narrow minded control freak, who is a puppet to the oil lobbyists and the the right wing think tank for the Republicans. It baffles the mind that so many on the right refuse to look at the facts, but instead follow with blind faith as useful idiots, when they fight for policies that are so far from their own interests.

  8. How dense are people on the right wing? So what if Iggy has travelled for long periods of time? Who would you rather have leading the country. Someone who has travelled and expanded their global political views and connections; or someone who has essentially done no traveling, is narrow minded, and clearly has an inferiority complex with America? Stevie is a narrow minded control freak, who is a puppet to the oil lobbyists and the the right wing think tank for the Republicans. It baffles the mind that so many on the right refuse to look at the facts, but instead follow with blind faith as useful idiots, when they fight for policies that are so far from their own interests.

    • The point isn't that he was travelling. That's not the issue at all.

      It's that he missed these all important events in Canadian history:
      The implementation of the Charter, NAFTA, Meech Lake, Charlottetown Accords, Quebec Sovereignty (x2), the after effects NEP, etc.
      They guy left before Joe Clark was in office, and came back post-Chretien. The man missed the entire tenures of Joe Clark, Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney, Kim Campbell, Trudeau 2.0, Turner, and half of Paul Martin's tenure.

      The point is, it's not what he WAS doing that gets called into question, it's what he wasn't doing: taking part in these watershed moments in Canada.

    • Thirty-five years is not just traveling, it's abandonment and no amount of the cultural and worldly enrichment argument will change it.

      • Very well said!

    • Aaron, do you have any 'facts' to back up your claims, or our you just blindly echoing the liberal party mantra?

    • How ignorant are you to make a broad comment like that "how dense are people on the right" you realize a right minded person is thinking the same thing about a leftist, as for Steven Harper being a puppet for the Republicans, how do you figure? Canada's only right wing party the conservatives are comparable to a band of hippies when stacked next to the Republicans. Which shows just what a socialist country we live in

  9. I thought Coyne was from Manitoba, is Potter as well?

  10. So lets sum up Mr Potter's article – Even though Iggy spent 30 odd years away from Canada it is actually Mr Harper who doesn't like Canada = Weak

  11. So lets sum up Mr Potter's article – Even though Iggy spent 30 odd years away from Canada it is actually Mr Harper who doesn't like Canada = Weak

    • I believe you mean "Weak Sauce"

    • Tony, weak and typical.

  12. PotteyMouth has been smoking some terrific junk. He compares Harper's telling the truth about Canukistan, as viewed by many around the world when the lefties were in charge, (I believe Trudeau got this started with his love of Mao and Castro), and the development of the entitlement regimes he created and other Liberals or Red Tories sustained.

    To the average Canadian observer Harper is a known quantity and shows his love of country whereas Iggenstein has spent 34 years away and has berated us in his books and statements, also from foreign soil. There is a difference between a person speaking metaphorically about the truth and a Liberal elitist using his perch to ridicule the country of his birth or pretend he is an American.

  13. The point isn't that he was travelling. That's not the issue at all.

    It's that he missed these all important events in Canadian history:
    The implementation of the Charter, NAFTA, Meech Lake, Charlottetown Accords, Quebec Sovereignty (x2), the after effects NEP, etc.
    They guy left before Joe Clark was in office, and came back post-Chretien. The man missed the entire tenures of Joe Clark, Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney, Kim Campbell, Trudeau 2.0, Turner, and half of Paul Martin's tenure.

    The point is, it's not what he WAS doing that gets called into question, it's what he wasn't doing: taking part in these watershed moments in Canada.

  14. PotteyMouth has been smoking some terrific junk. He compares Harper's telling the truth about Canukistan, as viewed by many around the world when the lefties were in charge, (I believe Trudeau got this started with his love of Mao and Castro), and the development of the entitlement regimes he created and other Liberals or Red Tories sustained.

    To the average Canadian observer Harper is a known quantity and shows his love of country whereas Iggenstein has spent 34 years away and has berated us in his books and statements, also from foreign soil. There is a difference between a person speaking metaphorically about the truth and a Liberal elitist using his perch to ridicule the country of his birth or pretend he is an American.

    • PotteyMouth? I see a Levant-worshipper has graced us with his presence.

      You do realize that both Levant and Lilley made absolute fools of themselves with their rebuttals to Potter, right?

      • Actually Levant was quite good. I thought, while he was childish, his facts were better than Potter's.

    • If Harper loves the country so much, why is he trying to turn it into the USA?? Small government, powerful 'states', punishment over prevention, a disproportionate tax burden on the low- and middle-classes, filching on Kyoto…

  15. Canada had a existential free trade debate. Canada had a national referendum on constitutional reform on the Charlottetown Accord. Canada had a sovereign debt crisis. Quebec had a 2nd referendum on sovereignty.

    None of these things seemed to interest Ignatieff enough to come home from hobnobbing in the imperial courts in the UK and the US.

    And Harper was the only major Canadian political figure who stood with Pierre Trudeau and the Canadian people against Charlottetown. Harper gave birth to the idea that a Clarity Act was necessary. Harper authored the Reform debt and deficit strategy to deal with the sovereign debt crisis, and Chretien and Martin first ridiculed and then mostly adopted to solve the crisis, Harper-lite, if you like.

    Unlike Ignatieff who was disinterested in the significant events shaping Canada for the last 25 years, Harper was front and centre and on the correct side on all of them.

  16. the biggest problem was what became known as his “pronoun problem.” – Potter has that right.

    Ignatieff begins with I

    "Something else changed when Ignatieff transitioned from reviewer to reporter. More and more he began to write himself into his own work. As the '90s progressed, the main character in more and more of http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/11/27/ReadIgnatieff/… Ignatieff's work became Michael Ignatieff."

    Harper not loyal or disrespectful to Canada/parts of Canada???? Wow – are you out to lunch on that. It is about his belief in a small federal government, provinces keeping their wealth, not redistributing it like the NEP did. It is about having a social safety net without creating dependency creep, the nanny state. Take a look at the the EU – the countries that became welfare states are on life support. It is about balance, when you have swung too far left you need to swing back to centre again.

  17. the biggest problem was what became known as his “pronoun problem.” – Potter has that right.

    Ignatieff begins with I

    "Something else changed when Ignatieff transitioned from reviewer to reporter. More and more he began to write himself into his own work. As the '90s progressed, the main character in more and more of http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/11/27/ReadIgnatieff/… Ignatieff's work became Michael Ignatieff."

    Harper not loyal or disrespectful to Canada/parts of Canada???? Wow – are you out to lunch on that. It is about his belief in a small federal government, provinces keeping their wealth, not redistributing it like the NEP did. It is about having a social safety net without creating dependency creep, the nanny state. Take a look at the the EU – the countries that became welfare states are on life support. It is about balance, when you have swung too far left you need to swing back to centre again.

    • bad link

    • This reminds of me of an old Feschuk column: Micheal Ignatieff is Michael Ignatieff in the hit one man show "Michael Ignatieff"

    • You know, if I actually thought that Harper believed any of those things you wrote, I'd be back voting CPC in a heartbeat.

      But, after a few years of watching him in power, I've come to realize that what he says is not really correlated to what he does. And he's saying all of what you wrote.

      • Can you explain to me how he could make the merger between the PC and CA and govern with a minority by not being assertive?

      • Amazing that with a minority gov't he hasn't been able to implement his policies…..
        Actually, he has been doing a good job of passing power to the provinces.

  18. I couldn't agree more!. I have lived in many provinces in this country, and if there is one thing I know, its that all provinces are not created equal, and that listening to the people where you live and knowing what the issues are, will make you a much more rounded Canadian. And is it a problem to know what our shortcomings are? I think it better equips you to do something about it!

  19. Thirty-five years is not just traveling, it's abandonment and no amount of the cultural and worldly enrichment argument will change it.

  20. While the usual suspects are gathering to protect the reputation of King Stephen and continue hammering away at enshrining the Royal Narrative, I'll just drop in to say that I find this to be a well-formulated and somewhat convincing critique of Ignatieff's arc and motives.

  21. While the usual suspects are gathering to protect the reputation of King Stephen and continue hammering away at enshrining the Royal Narrative, I'll just drop in to say that I find this to be a well-formulated and somewhat convincing critique of Ignatieff's arc and motives.

    • Andrew had to sling some obvious mud at Ignateiff, in order to make his slam on Harper look balanced. Read my post below to see what I mean.

      • Your meaning isn't mysterious enough to require supplementary reading, but I'll go ahead and look at it anyway.

        • Oh, now I get it !
          That condescending tone is meant to imitate Iggy when he deals with the " little people ".
          Hmmm…..I wonder if that is what Potter is doing ?

          • It's true, I'm an elitist. I usually stop paying serious attention to someone's comment once they've misspelled the name of the person they're talking about.

            I know I occasionally miss some good content that way, but there's only so much time in life. Think of it along the lines of campaign pre-screening.

          • Olaf?

          • I'm not quite so contrarian, I don't mind admitting that I have a side. That said, it's sad he's not back for the election fun.

  22. "he just didn't betray any great concern for the land of his birth."

    Is that entirely fair? Ignatieff had an entire section on Quebec seperatism in "Blood and Belonging", I believe. He compared it and contrasted it with other ascendant nationalisms of the 90's, including those of the Balkan wars. It's not as if he completely ignored Canada.

    With Harper, you have a man who believes that Canada as it was was headed in the wrong direction. It's a bit of a stretch to say he doesn't love his country though. As other have pointed out, it is the ascendancy of Harper's united Conservatives that has dampened that toxic Western regionalism; he deserves credit for that.

    Both men wrote much of their work when Canada was deeply in trouble. Can Ignatieff be blamed for not focusing on a country that was 50,000 votes away from dissolution? Can Harper be blamed for criticizing the same?

  23. "he just didn't betray any great concern for the land of his birth."

    Is that entirely fair? Ignatieff had an entire section on Quebec seperatism in "Blood and Belonging", I believe. He compared it and contrasted it with other ascendant nationalisms of the 90's, including those of the Balkan wars. It's not as if he completely ignored Canada.

    With Harper, you have a man who believes that Canada as it was was headed in the wrong direction. It's a bit of a stretch to say he doesn't love his country though. As other have pointed out, it is the ascendancy of Harper's united Conservatives that has dampened that toxic Western regionalism; he deserves credit for that.

    Both men wrote much of their work when Canada was deeply in trouble. Can Ignatieff be blamed for not focusing on a country that was 50,000 votes away from dissolution? Can Harper be blamed for criticizing the same?

    • I don't give you at thumbs down, but take issue with two things.
      First of all – 'toxic western regionalism'? every region and province, including Ontario looks out for its own special interests. Not a good thing, not a bad thing, but it's the truth. How come if 'the west', or Alberta, wants to looks after it's own interests, it is 'toxic western regionalism'? As for giving credit to one man for how a region thinks? Well, that is pretty insulting to all the people in that region.

  24. Obviously no matter where Potter has been or comes from, like Ignatieff, he has become part of that Toronto elitist mentality. And boy do the Conservatives love guys like them shoving it in the faces of Canadians. I bet the Tories give thanks to the almighty every time millionaire lawyer and Liberal Party President Alf Apps shows up on CBC. The only person with a more supercilious disdainful look for the peons around him is Ignatieff himself. Keep it up Potter – like many in the press you may think you are serving Liberal ends – in fact like the media has been told before – your are helping to elect a majority Conservative government.

  25. Obviously no matter where Potter has been or comes from, like Ignatieff, he has become part of that Toronto elitist mentality. And boy do the Conservatives love guys like them shoving it in the faces of Canadians. I bet the Tories give thanks to the almighty every time millionaire lawyer and Liberal Party President Alf Apps shows up on CBC. The only person with a more supercilious disdainful look for the peons around him is Ignatieff himself. Keep it up Potter – like many in the press you may think you are serving Liberal ends – in fact like the media has been told before – your are helping to elect a majority Conservative government.

  26. Hey. I didn't take part in them either. I mostly just watched the news. Does that invalidate me for the post?

  27. thank you for the article. Much has been said about Iggy but Harper seems to get off easy. I think some of the books written on Harper would give anyone a better idea of who he really is.

  28. thank you for the article. Much has been said about Iggy but Harper seems to get off easy. I think some of the books written on Harper would give anyone a better idea of who he really is.

  29. Regarding the picture, I've noticed that Harper is always looking down during his speeches? Is he afraid to look us in the eye when he talks?

  30. Regarding the picture, I've noticed that Harper is always looking down during his speeches? Is he afraid to look us in the eye when he talks?

    • Do you have any comments on Ignatieff's unusual mannerisms? Tread carefully.

    • When we saw him, he wa looking up and enjoying every moment The media never prints the best photo, ( I think they look for the worst) including iggy.Although a close up of iggy shows he needs his teeth fixed and cleaned

    • Ya right – like you Harper haters could find any reason not to vote for him and give us a good government in this Country.

    • Its Media Training. You are told to look down so that you look reflective.

      looking up on camera makes you look like you are lying or flighty

  31. Oh Harper loves his job. but he views Canada and its citizens with pure contempt.

  32. Oh Harper loves his job. but he views Canada and its citizens with pure contempt.

  33. But wasn't iggy the guy that the world's largest news organizations went to for analysis of Canadian events (when they bothered to do so?)

  34. In this campaign, he is famously avoiding podium style speaking and instead his crew have him standing in the centre of the room, and he's looking down at a teleprompter, which he seems awfully dependent on for a guy who is giving the same speech at every stop.

  35. Do you have any comments on Ignatieff's unusual mannerisms? Tread carefully.

  36. Another HDS (Harper Derangement Syndrome) Screed and slag of Alberta from Komarade Potter while giving a tonge bath worthy of Hanoi Jane Taber from Izvestia (Globe & Mail) to the American (Count Chocula). I have a question for you Andrew would't you be more at home at Pravada (CBC) ???

  37. Another HDS (Harper Derangement Syndrome) Screed and slag of Alberta from Komarade Potter while giving a tonge bath worthy of Hanoi Jane Taber from Izvestia (Globe & Mail) to the American (Count Chocula). I have a question for you Andrew would't you be more at home at Pravada (CBC) ???

    • I like a guy who recognizes the need for, and provides, his own translation as he goes.

    • Seig heil!

    • You might want to wipe that spittle off your chin.

  38. being mendacious again?

  39. Ha…you should have entittled this: The PM of convenience or The PM of the inconvenienced.

    Did i mention i hate you Potter for pointing out our choice lies between snobbery and condescension and snobbery and resentment? I've made my choice – condescension makes me mad; resentment on the scale of Harper's is scary.

    Good article, except one could make the obvious rebuttal that both men have grown…at least somewhat.

  40. Ha…you should have entittled this: The PM of convenience or The PM of the inconvenienced.

    Did i mention i hate you Potter for pointing out our choice lies between snobbery and condescension and snobbery and resentment? I've made my choice – condescension makes me mad; resentment on the scale of Harper's is scary.

    Good article, except one could make the obvious rebuttal that both men have grown…at least somewhat.

    • You seriously thought that was a good article?

      • Sure it was. Although as i said it's fairly easily rebutted if you don't like it.

        Why didn't you like it?

  41. I'm from the Maritimes, and I have never had a problem with what Harper said way back when. Some segments of the country are badly in need of some tough love.

  42. I'm from the Maritimes, and I have never had a problem with what Harper said way back when. Some segments of the country are badly in need of some tough love.

    • Here's to a Tory majority so the ship building contracts go to the east and west coasts!!!!

      • Why do you hate the free market?
        I'm sure ships can be built cheaper in China.

    • You'd love it when Steve The PM starts giving Canada some tough love, Stevie! Especially when your Canada's greatest national accomplishments were performed under a minority government by the Libs under Pearson and the CCF's Douglas.
      How about emigrating to the U.S. since with Steve the village idiot our country will be dismantled and sold to the highest bidder—Puerto Rico 51 and Canada will sooon join as the 52nd state.

      Enjoy when you file bankruptcy for inability to pay your meds bills, Steve…enjoy your ideological "firewall", eh!
      66% of Yankees filed personal bankpruptcy because they could not pay their hospital bills! How many in the land you despise? NONE, Stevo! Start thiknking like a Canuck, not a Tea Party assistant.

      • 200 million Americans filed for bankruptcy! Wow.

        Or did you mean the baseball team?

        • I caught that too – shows how well he checks his 'facts'. :)

  43. It is quite a reach to suggest that Harper's firewall is similar to Ignatieff's homelessness. Maybe Harper moved to Alberta and discovered that not everyone was in love with the Canada constructed by Pearson and Trudeau. Maybe he just wants to be able to say that "for the first time in my life, I am really proud of my country." I know that I do!

  44. It is quite a reach to suggest that Harper's firewall is similar to Ignatieff's homelessness. Maybe Harper moved to Alberta and discovered that not everyone was in love with the Canada constructed by Pearson and Trudeau. Maybe he just wants to be able to say that "for the first time in my life, I am really proud of my country." I know that I do!

    • "It is quite a reach to suggest that Harper's firewall is similar to Ignatieff's homelessness."

      Yeah, more like Duceppe's separatist beliefs. It's all about taking one's ball and going home.

    • I think you’ve got to the point. We have a PM who ISN’T proud of his country. There is a lot that could be better, but we need someone who will stand up for what we are as well as what we can be.

  45. Here's to a Tory majority so the ship building contracts go to the east and west coasts!!!!

  46. Another boat load of dung, apparently you don't know the difference between government and country.

  47. Another boat load of dung, apparently you don't know the difference between government and country.

    • What is a country without a government?

      • Someone needs to read up on nationalism.

  48. Interesting tactic, Mr. Potter.

    You know there is no denying that Michael Ignatieff only thinks Canada’s worth living in if we make him the Prime Minister, so instead of denying it, you try to lessen that reality by implying that Harper has the same contempt for the country of his birth.

    Unfortunately, as has been pointed out by previous posters’…Harper has been trying to improve Canada from a very young age. Ignatieff….he’s been trying to forget about it.

    The only reaons Iggy is back in Canada…is because the Liberal Party needed to find someone far far away from sponsorship and Liberal corruption. In effect…Iggy is just a patsy.

  49. Interesting tactic, Mr. Potter.

    You know there is no denying that Michael Ignatieff only thinks Canada’s worth living in if we make him the Prime Minister, so instead of denying it, you try to lessen that reality by implying that Harper has the same contempt for the country of his birth.

    Unfortunately, as has been pointed out by previous posters’…Harper has been trying to improve Canada from a very young age. Ignatieff….he’s been trying to forget about it.
    The only reaons Iggy is back in Canada…is because the Liberal Party needed to find someone far far away from sponsorship and Liberal corruption. In effect…Iggy is just a patsy.

  50. It makes you somewhat of an unlikely candidate to come out of nowhere and be appointed elected leader.

  51. It makes you somewhat of an unlikely candidate to come out of nowhere and be appointed elected leader.

    • So what happens in 5-10 years when none of the leaders participated in these events? Are they all unlikely candidates?

      Is our history so inaccessible that simply researching it can't make up for "being there"?

      • I would presume that the leaders in 5-10 years most likely are currently participating in one way or another. Heck, I would assume the leaders in 15-20 years are currently participating in one way or another. Wouldn't you?

        • But Michael Ignatieff is, at present, participating in one way or another, isn't he?

  52. I believe you mean "Weak Sauce"

  53. bad link

  54. I haven't decided how I'm going to vote yet. But rest assured when I do, it won't be based on arguments people are making here! This is all so silly; "…oh yeah, well my guy isn't as bad as your guy… " Maybe everyone should take a step back and look at the big picture instead are getting involved in these petty cat fights. We are voting for government members, not for Prime Minister. This isn't a Presidential vote. Doesn't policy and party philosophy enter in anybody's mind? I've looked back at recent history and none of these parties have stellar credentials at leadership positions; nobody is in this election for Canada. Our local constituents, who we are actually voting for, are mostly well meaning but will their/our voices be heard once they're elected? Maybe more young people would get involved in this election if there were prospects of politics being more than childish discourse and blind allegiance to party colours.

  55. I haven't decided how I'm going to vote yet. But rest assured when I do, it won't be based on arguments people are making here! This is all so silly; "…oh yeah, well my guy isn't as bad as your guy… " Maybe everyone should take a step back and look at the big picture instead are getting involved in these petty cat fights. We are voting for government members, not for Prime Minister. This isn't a Presidential vote. Doesn't policy and party philosophy enter in anybody's mind? I've looked back at recent history and none of these parties have stellar credentials at leadership positions; nobody is in this election for Canada. Our local constituents, who we are actually voting for, are mostly well meaning but will their/our voices be heard once they're elected? Maybe more young people would get involved in this election if there were prospects of politics being more than childish discourse and blind allegiance to party colours.

    • Well said!

    • Good for you, vote for who you feel has what you are looking for!

    • I agree.

  56. Andrew, this is the best you can do to try to negate the fact that Ignatieff spent so much time away, and only came back when the option of being Prime Minister is on the table.
    'Alienated and embittered Albertan' – being an Albertan is now a bad thing? (Could have just said alienated and embittered)
    'Stephen Harper's commitment to Canada is even more suspect' – this is a joke, and for proof you offer the fact that he doesn't think the same way you do. I think Ezra is right, you are an elitist.
    'Colonial mindset of the insecure migrant' – is this how the ROC views us – migrants? – Elitist.
    As far as reporting goes, this gets a fail. As far as opinion pieces go, pretty much just as bad – Andrew, you might as well have said "He doesn't agree with me, therefore he has no commitment to Canada". – Elitist. Can't you just say you disagree with him, provides facts as to why, and then we could respect you as a reporter?

  57. Andrew, this is the best you can do to try to negate the fact that Ignatieff spent so much time away, and only came back when the option of being Prime Minister is on the table.
    'Alienated and embittered Albertan' – being an Albertan is now a bad thing? (Could have just said alienated and embittered)
    'Stephen Harper's commitment to Canada is even more suspect' – this is a joke, and for proof you offer the fact that he doesn't think the same way you do. I think Ezra is right, you are an elitist.
    'Colonial mindset of the insecure migrant' – is this how the ROC views us – migrants? – Elitist.
    As far as reporting goes, this gets a fail. As far as opinion pieces go, pretty much just as bad – Andrew, you might as well have said "He doesn't agree with me, therefore he has no commitment to Canada". – Elitist. Can't you just say you disagree with him, provides facts as to why, and then we could respect you as a reporter?

    • His "firewal" smells suspiciously of separatist leanings – and he seems to fan that flame reliably.

      Is being an Albertan a bad thing? That depends; being an Albertan separatist puts one on par with a Quebec separatist. How do you feel about them?

      Judging by the increase in threats along those lines on comment boards like this one, Harper has a lot of people thinking it is either a CPC government or a move to separate.

      Do I think Harper is a western separatist? Probably not – but he likes taking full advantage of the politics of division, so I do think he and his party have been quietly stoking those flames in order to reap the benefits. In that way Harper is just like how he tries to portray Iggy: he's only in it for himself, and to hell with the rest of us.

      • You make a leap of judgment, and use that to make another leap of judgment. First of all, his fire wall was only a proposal to protect a provinces rights, as all provinces do. The federal government has historically infringed on provincial jurisdiction, by promising money. That is what Harper was opposed to, and he has given more power to the provinces, all of them. If you read 'separatist' into that, that is your own slant. You then try to insinuate that Albertans are separatists, trying to rip the country apart, like Quebec separatists. Every province looks after it's own interests, including Ontario, but if the 'redneck Albertans' do it, it is separatist?
        I was one who recently posted about Alberta separation. It is not something I want, but if a new NEP comes into play, I would certainly consider it. I love Canada, but you can only be shafted by the same people so many times.

        • "You make a leap of judgment, and use that to make another leap of judgment. First of all, his fire wall was only a proposal to protect a provinces rights, as all provinces do"

          Speaking of leaps of judgement. What is a leap of judgement by the way?

          • "it is only in judgment – assertion that something is – that a special leap is made by the mind from its own world out to reality." "…leap of judgment to reality from a concept which is not of reality".

  58. I agree! 100%. I've been to 9 of 10 provinces. I've lived in two provinces, in the capital city, in the two largest cities and in a smaller town as well. I've spent a lot of time in the maritimes, and many trips to western Canada. Some of these places do some things well, others do other things well.

    For one thing, the differences are never as big as some people make them out to be. Geographically the differences are huge. Culturally, the difference are not so big. A lot of the same types of institutions are in place across Canada, whether it's the banks, health care, hockey, or other shared institutions.

    Secondly, I always notice the differences as well, and it's not hard to see that some places do some things better than others, some places have different concerns than others, and it make you a better person to notice these things, it doesn't make you a worse person, as Potter suggests.

  59. Andrew had to sling some obvious mud at Ignateiff, in order to make his slam on Harper look balanced. Read my post below to see what I mean.

  60. After reading this diatribe, my opinion of Ignatieff hasn't diminished, and my opinion of Harper hasn't diminished. However, I may have to reconsider my opinion of the author.

  61. After reading this diatribe, my opinion of Ignatieff hasn't diminished, and my opinion of Harper hasn't diminished. However, I may have to reconsider my opinion of the author.

    • Yeah, same thing here.
      I was actually feeling a little admiration for Potter yesterday for standing up for his friend Loewen even though I did not approve of his methods.
      That good will has disappeared.
      Potter should apologize to all Albertans including Harper and Levant.

      • The whole piece reads like something written by a more erudite version of Heather Mallick. Needless to say, I'm quite disappointed with it.

      • true… 'he quickly adopted the colonial mindset of the insecure migrant, becoming culturally more Albertan than Albertans"

        That's quite a slur against Albertans. I didn't know the adjective "Albertan" was supposed to be an insult. Apparently he thinks that Albertan is not a description of what the people are like in Alberta, it's a description of something else (obviously negative in his view) that the people there are moving towards.

        In fact, this appears to be an extreme case of psychological projection, Potter projecting his vision of Alberta and Canada onto other people.

    • I agree. This is not fair to either Ignatieff or Harper.

      "have both spent their careers riffing off the same underlying theme, that Canada itself is irrelevant"

      What a mean-spirited statement that has no relation to the statements (evidence???) before it.

      I would argue the opposite. I think Ignatieff's time abroad may be a negative when it comes to measuring him as the best choice for the job of prime minister, but at the same time he's never ever given any indication of a disdain for any people or any part of Canada, he has only said and done positive things with respect to Canada as a whole or its various regions.

      Same with Harper: nothing he has said or done has ever fazed my impression that he wants to see all of Canada do well, he's spent his entire career trying to improve Canada, and one of his accomplishments has been uniting conservatives from coast to coast.

      • Yup. The piece is unfair to Ignatieff, and it's unfair to Harper. It's not so much an argument as a collection of vitriolic assertions, in some cases backed up by the same old hackneyed list of cherry-picked quotes that have been trolled around the internet for many years now.

        There's nothing original or insightful here. It's all cheap shots and sneering condescension. Potter should stop swallowing the angry pills, because they appear to lower his IQ by several standard deviations.

        • I read that Harper speech to the neocons and I wouldn't call the quote Potter picked from it "cherry-picking". That speech was dowright hateful towards Canada and Canadians.

          It's fair to say Harper was probably just talking the talk to his audience, but I think the point Potter is trying to make is that Harper shouldn't be talking so much smack about Ignatieff's past when his isn't rosy either.

          One thing I think we both agree on (I believe) is that this piece really doesn't add or say anything new or interesting.

        • "Yup. The piece is unfair to Ignatieff, and it's unfair to Harper. It's not so much an argument as a collection of vitriolic assertions, in some cases backed up by the same old hackneyed list of cherry-picked quotes that have been trolled around the internet for many years now."

          And that would make those quotes untrue? It's abit rich to call out a journalist for swallowing angry pills when this version of the CPC has made a virtue out of being perpetually angry. I'd say Potter writes some of his best stuff while angry. He certainly seems to have touched a nerve on this thread. Somehow the piece is anti-Albertan – that's a stretch. I suspect the real reason is it dares to equate Harper's dyspepsia with Ignatieff's opportunism.

          • You seriously see nothing 'anti-Albertan' in his piece? Replace Alberta and Albertan with your province, and let me know if it changes anything.

          • Alberta sepearatists, Quebec separatists…any other provinces you can think of that play that game?

          • No i don't see anything anti-Albertan. And don't assume bud. In 30 odd years of being in Canada i've lived in AB for at least half of that period. I love the place – not so much its politics or its propanganda [ evryone has self serving view of themselves to some degree or other. So, stop with the victim card – it's pathetic.

            Perhaps you can tell us just how it amounts to being anti-Alberta, instead of just jerking your knee?

          • Can't see how saying that someone is slamming a province is playing a 'victim card'. Or how that can be labeled pathetic.
            It is not simply jerking my knee, but I can see by now you don't get it.
            "Even though he grew up in Toronto's placid Leaside neighborhood, he quickly adopted the colonial mindset of the insecure migrant, becoming culturally more Albertan than Albertans."
            How about I re-write this for Potter.
            "Even though he grew up in Toronto, and should therefore have had sensible ideals, he quickly adopted the anti-Canadian mindset of the redneck, separatist Albertan, and he even adopted it to a greater degree than the average Albertan."
            I am assuming that Maclean's wouldn't have run it that way, but the ideas are probably pretty similar.
            For the record, I usually have pretty thick skin, and consider myself a Canadian first, but this was a pretty obvious slam to me. If you don't see it, fine, but I can tell by the numerous other posts, that I am not alone.

  62. This reminds of me of an old Feschuk column: Micheal Ignatieff is Michael Ignatieff in the hit one man show "Michael Ignatieff"

  63. PotteyMouth? I see a Levant-worshipper has graced us with his presence.

    You do realize that both Levant and Lilley made absolute fools of themselves with their rebuttals to Potter, right?

  64. You know, if I actually thought that Harper believed any of those things you wrote, I'd be back voting CPC in a heartbeat.

    But, after a few years of watching him in power, I've come to realize that what he says is not really correlated to what he does. And he's saying all of what you wrote.

  65. I agree! 100%.

    ***

    Of course you do. And if it wsa reversed you'd be vehemently against it.

  66. Your meaning isn't mysterious enough to require supplementary reading, but I'll go ahead and look at it anyway.

  67. What is a country without a government?

  68. Oh, now I get it !
    That condescending tone is meant to imitate Iggy when he deals with the " little people ".
    Hmmm…..I wonder if that is what Potter is doing ?

  69. Yeah, same thing here.
    I was actually feeling a little admiration for Potter yesterday for standing up for his friend Loewen even though I did not approve of his methods.
    That good will has disappeared.
    Potter should apologize to all Albertans including Harper and Levant.

  70. I agree. This is not fair to either Ignatieff or Harper.

    "have both spent their careers riffing off the same underlying theme, that Canada itself is irrelevant"

    What a mean-spirited statement that has no relation to the statements (evidence???) before it.

    I would argue the opposite. I think Ignatieff's time abroad may be a negative when it comes to measuring him as the best choice for the job of prime minister, but at the same time he's never ever given any indication of a disdain for any people or any part of Canada, he has only said and done positive things with respect to Canada as a whole or its various regions.

    Same with Harper: nothing he has said or done has ever fazed my impression that he wants to see all of Canada do well, he's spent his entire career trying to improve Canada, and one of his accomplishments has been uniting conservatives from coast to coast.

  71. The whole piece reads like something written by a more erudite version of Heather Mallick. Needless to say, I'm quite disappointed with it.

  72. Yup. The piece is unfair to Ignatieff, and it's unfair to Harper. It's not so much an argument as a collection of vitriolic assertions, in some cases backed up by the same old hackneyed list of cherry-picked quotes that have been trolled around the internet for many years now.

    There's nothing original or insightful here. It's all cheap shots and sneering condescension. Potter should stop swallowing the angry pills, because they appear to lower his IQ by several standard deviations.

  73. true… 'he quickly adopted the colonial mindset of the insecure migrant, becoming culturally more Albertan than Albertans"

    That's quite a slur against Albertans. I didn't know the adjective "Albertan" was supposed to be an insult. Apparently he thinks that Albertan is not a description of what the people are like in Alberta, it's a description of something else (obviously negative in his view) that the people there are moving towards.

    In fact, this appears to be an extreme case of psychological projection, Potter projecting his vision of Alberta and Canada onto other people.

  74. Obama doesn't leave home without his teleprompter.

  75. Obama doesn't leave home without his teleprompter.

    • Well, Obama just lost my vote.

  76. Well, Obama just lost my vote.

  77. Now after reading this whine,it becomes apparent. If you want someone loyal to Canada vote for Jack Layton who wants to turn it into Greece or fpr Gilles Duceppe who wants to dissolve it.

  78. Now after reading this whine,it becomes apparent. If you want someone loyal to Canada vote for Jack Layton who wants to turn it into Greece or fpr Gilles Duceppe who wants to dissolve it.

    • Hey, Osama babe, It ain't Layton, binnie, that's gonna bankrupt our country. It's already been done by Herr Harpo. He inherited 13 bil and now we got a 56 bil deficit not to mention our democratic deficit. If anyone wants to DISMANTLE Canada, it's Harper. Wait another 4 years and you'll apply for resident status to……Greece. The weather's beautiful even tho the country (like the globe) has been royally screwed by the Harper Ideology of Free Markets as administered by the Wall Street gang of thieves.
      Why don't you watch the Oscar-winning documentary: INSIDE JOB so you can learn a few things about what happened in Europe and how your HarpoBoy will be destroying your country soon….
      P.S. I thought you had emigrated to Pakistan by now!

      • Is this really how you see the world? How do you survive?

  79. Why do you hate the free market?
    I'm sure ships can be built cheaper in China.

  80. Well said, and to the media, have at it! they have never given him a break for years, so why now do they expect one

  81. Well said, and to the media, have at it! they have never given him a break for years, so why now do they expect one

  82. Tony, weak and typical.

  83. When we saw him, he wa looking up and enjoying every moment The media never prints the best photo, ( I think they look for the worst) including iggy.Although a close up of iggy shows he needs his teeth fixed and cleaned

  84. While at Harvard, Ignatieff was joined at the hip to Samantha Powers, and Barak Hussein Obama.
    Interesting how Iggy suddenly becomes homesick after almost 40 years.
    It would be meanspirited and smallminded to put 2 and together and say there is dirty work going on at the crossroads

  85. While at Harvard, Ignatieff was joined at the hip to Samantha Powers, and Barak Hussein Obama.
    Interesting how Iggy suddenly becomes homesick after almost 40 years.
    It would be meanspirited and smallminded to put 2 and together and say there is dirty work going on at the crossroads

  86. Potter completely misses the point. A firewall is used to keep damaging things from entering where they belong. We have had some experience with Central Canadian politicians and bureaucrats meddling out West in things they would never consider meddling in in Quebec for instance. So a firewall is an excellent idea, and always will be.
    And under the Liberals, beginning with Trudeau's loony quest to align us with the Soviet Union and China rather than the US and NATO, Canada did become an irrelevancy, reduced to bleating about how wonderful our healthcare system was and how many peacekeeping missions we had been on. Kosovo and Rwanda provided the reality check on that one.
    We are now getting back on track, and Canada is again exerting moral muscle in the world. The rejection by the UN Security Council is proof of that.
    Harper may not be warm and fuzzy but who cares. We are finally, after 40 years heading in the right direction, or at least no longer heading in the wrong one.

  87. Potter completely misses the point. A firewall is used to keep damaging things from entering where they belong. We have had some experience with Central Canadian politicians and bureaucrats meddling out West in things they would never consider meddling in in Quebec for instance. So a firewall is an excellent idea, and always will be.
    And under the Liberals, beginning with Trudeau's loony quest to align us with the Soviet Union and China rather than the US and NATO, Canada did become an irrelevancy, reduced to bleating about how wonderful our healthcare system was and how many peacekeeping missions we had been on. Kosovo and Rwanda provided the reality check on that one.
    We are now getting back on track, and Canada is again exerting moral muscle in the world. The rejection by the UN Security Council is proof of that.
    Harper may not be warm and fuzzy but who cares. We are finally, after 40 years heading in the right direction, or at least no longer heading in the wrong one.

  88. Someone needs to read up on nationalism.

  89. So what happens in 5-10 years when none of the leaders participated in these events? Are they all unlikely candidates?

    Is our history so inaccessible that simply researching it can't make up for "being there"?

  90. I like a guy who recognizes the need for, and provides, his own translation as he goes.

  91. Ignatieff abandoned his career and one of his countries (USA) in order to contribute to one of his countries (Canada). Harper laments the direction the country (and certain regions of it) was (were) taking, and puts up with running for office over and over to actually try to do something about it.

    But Potter expects us to believe that neither man actually cares enough about this country? Wow. I have a word to describe daring to question the love of country within two men taking the trouble to apply for the job of running the country. It's a word with which you are quite familiar. Despicable.

    This piece was posted on the web on April 8. Are we sure it wasn't dated exactly seven days earlier in the dead-tree edition?

  92. Ignatieff abandoned his career and one of his countries (USA) in order to contribute to one of his countries (Canada). Harper laments the direction the country (and certain regions of it) was (were) taking, and puts up with running for office over and over to actually try to do something about it.

    But Potter expects us to believe that neither man actually cares enough about this country? Wow. I have a word to describe daring to question the love of country within two men taking the trouble to apply for the job of running the country. It's a word with which you are quite familiar. Despicable.

    This piece was posted on the web on April 8. Are we sure it wasn't dated exactly seven days earlier in the dead-tree edition?

  93. Very well said!

  94. If it's the ultimate choice between a global jet-setter poseur-philosopher who's written novels (not hockey comics) and produced documentaries, made a few mistakes while becoming a 'citizen of the world' — and a country bumpkin who could easily win the VILLAGE IDIOT of the Globe Award hands-down with a deep-seated, burning anger for Women, Seniors, Veterans and any Canadian whose province does not have Tar Sands Deposits….then I'd have to say "NO" to the Village Idiot currently reapplying for a job he's failed in so badly, were it not for the "inheritance" and the huge Economic and Democratic Deficit he's created…..Herr Harper….ugh! What an embarrassment for Canadians….no wonder we lost, for first time in 60(!) years, the UN Security Countil seat!
    Who'd want to sit next to this clown? No wonder even his wife is living apart!…..

  95. If it's the ultimate choice between a global jet-setter poseur-philosopher who's written novels (not hockey comics) and produced documentaries, made a few mistakes while becoming a 'citizen of the world' — and a country bumpkin who could easily win the VILLAGE IDIOT of the Globe Award hands-down with a deep-seated, burning anger for Women, Seniors, Veterans and any Canadian whose province does not have Tar Sands Deposits….then I'd have to say "NO" to the Village Idiot currently reapplying for a job he's failed in so badly, were it not for the "inheritance" and the huge Economic and Democratic Deficit he's created…..Herr Harper….ugh! What an embarrassment for Canadians….no wonder we lost, for first time in 60(!) years, the UN Security Countil seat!
    Who'd want to sit next to this clown? No wonder even his wife is living apart!…..

  96. I read that Harper speech to the neocons and I wouldn't call the quote Potter picked from it "cherry-picking". That speech was dowright hateful towards Canada and Canadians.

    It's fair to say Harper was probably just talking the talk to his audience, but I think the point Potter is trying to make is that Harper shouldn't be talking so much smack about Ignatieff's past when his isn't rosy either.

    One thing I think we both agree on (I believe) is that this piece really doesn't add or say anything new or interesting.

  97. Seig heil!

  98. Harper and his policies are the LEAST CANADIAN in our country's history! UnCanadian? Spell it: H-a-r-p-e-r. He hates Canadians! It's so obvious when you watch his hateful guy talk. From the Mail Room to the Computer Room at papa's Oil Co. in Alta. and then assistant to politicians. No real job experience. He's going to ruin this country further. Now's the time to strategically vote this sociophathic robot out of the Power he lives to steal, grab and hold…
    Steve is an insecure, frightening bully who's dragged us all down the last few years=

  99. Harper and his policies are the LEAST CANADIAN in our country's history! UnCanadian? Spell it: H-a-r-p-e-r. He hates Canadians! It's so obvious when you watch his hateful guy talk. From the Mail Room to the Computer Room at papa's Oil Co. in Alta. and then assistant to politicians. No real job experience. He's going to ruin this country further. Now's the time to strategically vote this sociophathic robot out of the Power he lives to steal, grab and hold…
    Steve is an insecure, frightening bully who's dragged us all down the last few years=

  100. Can you explain to me how he could make the merger between the PC and CA and govern with a minority by not being assertive?

  101. "It is quite a reach to suggest that Harper's firewall is similar to Ignatieff's homelessness."

    Yeah, more like Duceppe's separatist beliefs. It's all about taking one's ball and going home.

  102. I would presume that the leaders in 5-10 years most likely are currently participating in one way or another. Heck, I would assume the leaders in 15-20 years are currently participating in one way or another. Wouldn't you?

  103. Well said!

  104. Hey, Osama babe, It ain't Layton, binnie, that's gonna bankrupt our country. It's already been done by Herr Harpo. He inherited 13 bil and now we got a 56 bil deficit not to mention our democratic deficit. If anyone wants to DISMANTLE Canada, it's Harper. Wait another 4 years and you'll apply for resident status to……Greece. The weather's beautiful even tho the country (like the globe) has been royally screwed by the Harper Ideology of Free Markets as administered by the Wall Street gang of thieves.
    Why don't you watch the Oscar-winning documentary: INSIDE JOB so you can learn a few things about what happened in Europe and how your HarpoBoy will be destroying your country soon….
    P.S. I thought you had emigrated to Pakistan by now!

  105. You'd love it when Steve The PM starts giving Canada some tough love, Stevie! Especially when your Canada's greatest national accomplishments were performed under a minority government by the Libs under Pearson and the CCF's Douglas.
    How about emigrating to the U.S. since with Steve the village idiot our country will be dismantled and sold to the highest bidder—Puerto Rico 51 and Canada will sooon join as the 52nd state.

    Enjoy when you file bankruptcy for inability to pay your meds bills, Steve…enjoy your ideological "firewall", eh!
    66% of Yankees filed personal bankpruptcy because they could not pay their hospital bills! How many in the land you despise? NONE, Stevo! Start thiknking like a Canuck, not a Tea Party assistant.

  106. Good for you, vote for who you feel has what you are looking for!

  107. His "firewal" smells suspiciously of separatist leanings – and he seems to fan that flame reliably.

    Is being an Albertan a bad thing? That depends; being an Albertan separatist puts one on par with a Quebec separatist. How do you feel about them?

    Judging by the increase in threats along those lines on comment boards like this one, Harper has a lot of people thinking it is either a CPC government or a move to separate.

    Do I think Harper is a western separatist? Probably not – but he likes taking full advantage of the politics of division, so I do think he and his party have been quietly stoking those flames in order to reap the benefits. In that way Harper is just like how he tries to portray Iggy: he's only in it for himself, and to hell with the rest of us.

  108. 200 million Americans filed for bankruptcy! Wow.

    Or did you mean the baseball team?

  109. Oh andrew, you are not getting much loving lately, even though I strongly disagree with this article and partially to the last one. I think you are fine journalist and opinions are one's own.

    But now go write something nice about harper and I will like you even better, JK : )

  110. Oh andrew, you are not getting much loving lately, even though I strongly disagree with this article and partially to the last one. I think you are fine journalist and opinions are one's own.

    But now go write something nice about harper and I will like you even better, JK : )

  111. the infamous Alberta Agenda letter he co-signed after the 2000 election and sent to Ralph Klein, encouraging him to “build firewalls” around the province to protect it from “an aggressive and hostile federal government.”

    two examples of agressive federal Liberal government come to mind, PET NEP and Stephane Dion Green Shift. does'nt sound over the top to me.

  112. the infamous Alberta Agenda letter he co-signed after the 2000 election and sent to Ralph Klein, encouraging him to “build firewalls” around the province to protect it from “an aggressive and hostile federal government.”

    two examples of agressive federal Liberal government come to mind, PET NEP and Stephane Dion Green Shift. does'nt sound over the top to me.

  113. Alberta is the equivalent of Alabama. It does not represent Canadian values…as Alabama does not represent American values. Both are full of rednecks and bigots that do not understand the concept of democracy.

    Ignatieff and Harper both have their pros and cons…but for me, the biggest pros for Ignatieff is that he is not a career politician like Harper. That he has lived and worked outside Canada. That he has experienced different people and cultures. That brings a whole lot more to the table then a paranoid Party functionary that is Stephen Harper. I do not give a rats ass about all the right left BS the media loves to harp on.

  114. Alberta is the equivalent of Alabama. It does not represent Canadian values…as Alabama does not represent American values. Both are full of rednecks and bigots that do not understand the concept of democracy.

    Ignatieff and Harper both have their pros and cons…but for me, the biggest pros for Ignatieff is that he is not a career politician like Harper. That he has lived and worked outside Canada. That he has experienced different people and cultures. That brings a whole lot more to the table then a paranoid Party functionary that is Stephen Harper. I do not give a rats ass about all the right left BS the media loves to harp on.

    • Speaking of Bigots…

      • " experienced different people and culture" – yeah, British and Americans – Weak

    • Who would ever think of chooseing a career politician to lead a governement? I know when my toilet is broken, I stay far away from those career plumbers.

    • You sure seem to know a lot about the States, Calda. How about moving there.

  115. LMAO, this article is like a old Kung-Fu movie. It is so bad it is awesome..

    I am waiting for the next Potter article telling us why Bill Bilichick hates football…

  116. LMAO, this article is like a old Kung-Fu movie. It is so bad it is awesome..

    I am waiting for the next Potter article telling us why Bill Bilichick hates football…

    • That made me laugh. :) Thumbs up.

  117. Aaron, do you have any 'facts' to back up your claims, or our you just blindly echoing the liberal party mantra?

  118. I encourage everyone here to read the comment by poster

    Blue

    above. As he absolutely obliterates the thesis that Harper's allegiance to Canada is just a suspect as Iggy's is.

    Potter falls into the mindset that if it's not central Canadian "progressivism" it's unCanadian.

    As for Iggy deliberately choosing to reside outside of Canada for 34 years (most of his adult life) and only coming back at the prospect of being PM…well that speaks for itself.

  119. Actually Levant was quite good. I thought, while he was childish, his facts were better than Potter's.

  120. I encourage everyone here to read the comment by poster

    Blue

    above. As he absolutely obliterates the thesis that Harper's allegiance to Canada is just a suspect as Iggy's is.

    Potter falls into the mindset that if it's not central Canadian "progressivism" it's unCanadian.

    As for Iggy deliberately choosing to reside outside of Canada for 34 years (most of his adult life) and only coming back at the prospect of being PM…well that speaks for itself.

  121. Amazing that with a minority gov't he hasn't been able to implement his policies…..
    Actually, he has been doing a good job of passing power to the provinces.

  122. It's true, I'm an elitist. I usually stop paying serious attention to someone's comment once they've misspelled the name of the person they're talking about.

    I know I occasionally miss some good content that way, but there's only so much time in life. Think of it along the lines of campaign pre-screening.

  123. Come on Potter – Harper has dedicated his life to trying to do good things for this country – like get rid of the gun registry – big Liberal waste of money. So he says he's an Albertan and therefore doesn't love the rest of Canada? What? I was born in Ontario and lived there till age 10, when we moved to Alberta. Now when people ask where I am from – I say Alberta – does that mean I hate Ontario – No – what an idiotic piece of Liberal pandering.

  124. Come on Potter – Harper has dedicated his life to trying to do good things for this country – like get rid of the gun registry – big Liberal waste of money. So he says he's an Albertan and therefore doesn't love the rest of Canada? What? I was born in Ontario and lived there till age 10, when we moved to Alberta. Now when people ask where I am from – I say Alberta – does that mean I hate Ontario – No – what an idiotic piece of Liberal pandering.

    • "Harper has dedicated his life to trying to do good things for this country – like get rid of the gun registry"

      What a waste of a life if this is a top priority of something to accomplish.

  125. Ya right – like you Harper haters could find any reason not to vote for him and give us a good government in this Country.

  126. oh please, (to some those commenting above) Harper is here for Canada? Harper is for himself. Didn't some journo ask yesterday – who is politicizing the RCMP? If that question was asked of a truth-telling Harper he would have to answer "ME".

    Harper is all about the power – that people stuff is for pussies, stuff he has to put up with to game to the big prize – "me big chief with all power … then real party can begin …"

    We have a choice between someone who hates us, disrespects us, and will do anything to anyone with anything he's got that might stand in his way … and someone who didn't really want to be one of us for a long while …

    it's not much of a choice, I agree, but if that really is the only choice (and I am not sure that it is) seems like an easy one to me …

  127. oh please, (to some those commenting above) Harper is here for Canada? Harper is for himself. Didn't some journo ask yesterday – who is politicizing the RCMP? If that question was asked of a truth-telling Harper he would have to answer "ME".

    Harper is all about the power – that people stuff is for pussies, stuff he has to put up with to game to the big prize – "me big chief with all power … then real party can begin …"

    We have a choice between someone who hates us, disrespects us, and will do anything to anyone with anything he's got that might stand in his way … and someone who didn't really want to be one of us for a long while …

    it's not much of a choice, I agree, but if that really is the only choice (and I am not sure that it is) seems like an easy one to me …

    • It is an easy choice, but only because most of what you say is totally inaccurate.

  128. Potter thinks that Harper`s move from Ontario to Alberta was an abandonment of his Central Canadian Citizenship. Potter may have moved from Manitoba to Ontario and he may consider that a move up the ladder but he is acting like a Ontario snob

    That would be true if Potter was actually judging Harper based solely on where he moved. The fact that you dismiss the rest of his points in order to paint Potter using tired regionalistic and populist memes such as exhibiting qualities of an "Ontario snob" ironically illustrates what Potter was saying actually.

  129. You might want to wipe that spittle off your chin.

  130. I agree 1000 percent with those who say we should vote Ignatieff with both hands precisely BECAUSE he has so much experience of other countries and is therefore far better equipped to lead Canada in the globalised age than the mean, petty, party hack Harper…..

  131. I agree 1000 percent with those who say we should vote Ignatieff with both hands precisely BECAUSE he has so much experience of other countries and is therefore far better equipped to lead Canada in the globalised age than the mean, petty, party hack Harper…..

  132. Is this really how you see the world? How do you survive?

  133. I agree.

  134. You seriously thought that was a good article?

  135. I caught that too – shows how well he checks his 'facts'. :)

  136. I don't give you at thumbs down, but take issue with two things.
    First of all – 'toxic western regionalism'? every region and province, including Ontario looks out for its own special interests. Not a good thing, not a bad thing, but it's the truth. How come if 'the west', or Alberta, wants to looks after it's own interests, it is 'toxic western regionalism'? As for giving credit to one man for how a region thinks? Well, that is pretty insulting to all the people in that region.

  137. You make a leap of judgment, and use that to make another leap of judgment. First of all, his fire wall was only a proposal to protect a provinces rights, as all provinces do. The federal government has historically infringed on provincial jurisdiction, by promising money. That is what Harper was opposed to, and he has given more power to the provinces, all of them. If you read 'separatist' into that, that is your own slant. You then try to insinuate that Albertans are separatists, trying to rip the country apart, like Quebec separatists. Every province looks after it's own interests, including Ontario, but if the 'redneck Albertans' do it, it is separatist?
    I was one who recently posted about Alberta separation. It is not something I want, but if a new NEP comes into play, I would certainly consider it. I love Canada, but you can only be shafted by the same people so many times.

  138. It is an easy choice, but only because most of what you say is totally inaccurate.

  139. That made me laugh. :) Thumbs up.

  140. If you reread the last sentence of my second paragraph you will see I also addressed the accusation from Potter concerning Harper/s lack of commitment to Canada because he dared say that there could be some improvements in how different regions act and are treated.

    Ironically there would have been no need to refer to Potter as an Ontario snob if he had not chose to use the fact that Harper moved to Alberta as a reason to insinuate that he was like an insecure migrant.

  141. Sure it was. Although as i said it's fairly easily rebutted if you don't like it.

    Why didn't you like it?

  142. Andrew Potter, you hit the nail on the head. Ignore all the partisan potshots – you raise an excellent point. Clearly Harper has never gotten past his disdain for this country (which is why he's so eager to manipulate the process) and Ignatieff is here to save us from ourselves.

    An unfortunate choice.

  143. Andrew Potter, you hit the nail on the head. Ignore all the partisan potshots – you raise an excellent point. Clearly Harper has never gotten past his disdain for this country (which is why he's so eager to manipulate the process) and Ignatieff is here to save us from ourselves.

    An unfortunate choice.

    • As far as Ignatieff only coming back to try to govern it:
      I think we can all agree that Peter C. Newman has some good connections in the Liberal party. In the Jan 31, 2011 issue of Maclean's he wrote a piece about Keith Davey, who Newman claims invented the modern Liberal party. He basically writes of how Keith heard Ignatieff as a guest speaker, and told Rocco Rossi that 'that guy should be prime minister'. Rocci later told it to Ian Davey (Keith's son, who later became Iggy's chief of staff). Ian told it to Alf App, a liberal party bigwig. Ian to Alf "So I go, 'Michael Ignatieff'!?" "He goes, 'I like it.' "That's great. What do we do? He's at Harvard and doesn't know who we are.' "As only Alfred would do, he picks up the phone and calls him, gets through, we arrange to meet, and the rest is history."
      I think that speaks pretty plainly, as to why Ignatieff is here.

  144. "You make a leap of judgment, and use that to make another leap of judgment. First of all, his fire wall was only a proposal to protect a provinces rights, as all provinces do"

    Speaking of leaps of judgement. What is a leap of judgement by the way?

  145. "Yup. The piece is unfair to Ignatieff, and it's unfair to Harper. It's not so much an argument as a collection of vitriolic assertions, in some cases backed up by the same old hackneyed list of cherry-picked quotes that have been trolled around the internet for many years now."

    And that would make those quotes untrue? It's abit rich to call out a journalist for swallowing angry pills when this version of the CPC has made a virtue out of being perpetually angry. I'd say Potter writes some of his best stuff while angry. He certainly seems to have touched a nerve on this thread. Somehow the piece is anti-Albertan – that's a stretch. I suspect the real reason is it dares to equate Harper's dyspepsia with Ignatieff's opportunism.

  146. How is that I see loads of people disagreeing that Harper is the Canada disdainer and yet any comment saying such has negative votes, who's trolling these and voting down all the Harper supporting but not saying much?

  147. How is that I see loads of people disagreeing that Harper is the Canada disdainer and yet any comment saying such has negative votes, who's trolling these and voting down all the Harper supporting but not saying much?

  148. Speaking of Bigots…

  149. I'm not going to rehash, once again, the facts of this case. What I find saddest is that Sandy Crux decided to pull her excellent coverage of the entire sad episode. That's really too bad.

    Here's the Google Cache of her initial article:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=ca

    And here's the cache of her follow-up response to BC Blue and Levant:

    <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WhMYWSvUpXoJ:cruxofthematterinfo.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/bc-blue-wrong-over-cotm-clarification-of-peter-loewen/%2 0http://cruxofthematterinfo.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/bc-blue-wrong-over-cotm-clarification-of-peter-loewen/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a&source%20%3Ca%20href=” target=”_blank”>http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=ca

  150. 100% well said. This is the worst opinion piece I've ever seen in six years of reading the "new" Maclean's. The McGill Daily has done better urban-snob lefty screeds than this.

  151. Basically, it was a poorly done opinion piece, that tried to look like reporting. I think he slammed the obvious Ignatieff things, only so it didn't totally look like a pathetic slam on Harper. (but it still did)
    I know we disagree politically, so maybe that is why I see this and you don't. I think if we all just used facts, truth, and kept the emotion out, our discussions would be better.
    'Alienated and embittered Albertan' – being an Albertan is now a bad thing? (Could have just said alienated and embittered)
    'Stephen Harper's commitment to Canada is even more suspect' – this is a joke, and for proof he offers the fact that Harper doesn't think the same way Potter does. I think Ezra is right, Potter is an elitist.
    'Colonial mindset of the insecure migrant' – is this how the ROC views us – migrants? – Elitist.
    As far as reporting goes, this gets a fail. As far as opinion pieces go, pretty much just as bad – Andrew might as well have said "He doesn't agree with me, therefore he has no commitment to Canada". – Elitist. Andrew should just say that he disagrees with Harper, provides facts as to why, and then we could respect Potter as a reporter?

  152. "Harper has dedicated his life to trying to do good things for this country – like get rid of the gun registry"

    What a waste of a life if this is a top priority of something to accomplish.

  153. Its Media Training. You are told to look down so that you look reflective.

    looking up on camera makes you look like you are lying or flighty

  154. " experienced different people and culture" – yeah, British and Americans – Weak

  155. i agree with most of your posts potter has once again shown his red colors ,trying to slant the facts to meet his personal agenda.the only thing worse is he now has rick mercer to share his ante
    conservative rhetoric

  156. i agree with most of your posts potter has once again shown his red colors ,trying to slant the facts to meet his personal agenda.the only thing worse is he now has rick mercer to share his ante
    conservative rhetoric

  157. Olaf?

  158. If Harper loves the country so much, why is he trying to turn it into the USA?? Small government, powerful 'states', punishment over prevention, a disproportionate tax burden on the low- and middle-classes, filching on Kyoto…

  159. I'm not quite so contrarian, I don't mind admitting that I have a side. That said, it's sad he's not back for the election fun.

  160. "it is only in judgment – assertion that something is – that a special leap is made by the mind from its own world out to reality." "…leap of judgment to reality from a concept which is not of reality".

  161. You seriously see nothing 'anti-Albertan' in his piece? Replace Alberta and Albertan with your province, and let me know if it changes anything.

  162. Who would ever think of chooseing a career politician to lead a governement? I know when my toilet is broken, I stay far away from those career plumbers.

  163. Well, at least andy didn't swear . … but 'Harper is as bad as Iggy' – that's all you've got?
    There must be a pool of serious journalists out there Macleans could draw from.

  164. Well, at least andy didn't swear . … but 'Harper is as bad as Iggy' – that's all you've got?
    There must be a pool of serious journalists out there Macleans could draw from.

  165. How ignorant are you to make a broad comment like that "how dense are people on the right" you realize a right minded person is thinking the same thing about a leftist, as for Steven Harper being a puppet for the Republicans, how do you figure? Canada's only right wing party the conservatives are comparable to a band of hippies when stacked next to the Republicans. Which shows just what a socialist country we live in

  166. True for Ignatieff, but a lot of rot of rot in regard to Harper. The West was treated like colonies by the East until the balance was evened by allocating resources to the provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan – years after they were made provinces. It is hard to say whether they were the colonies of the CPR or of the financial interests of Eastern Canada. Not to mention Trudeau's and Lalonde's attempt to steal back the oil profits.

    As for Ignatieff, he would have been born into a Russian aristocratic family if it hadn't been for the 1917 revolution.

    My point is that Harper's attitude is entirely justifiable.

  167. True for Ignatieff, but a lot of rot of rot in regard to Harper. The West was treated like colonies by the East until the balance was evened by allocating resources to the provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan – years after they were made provinces. It is hard to say whether they were the colonies of the CPR or of the financial interests of Eastern Canada. Not to mention Trudeau's and Lalonde's attempt to steal back the oil profits.

    As for Ignatieff, he would have been born into a Russian aristocratic family if it hadn't been for the 1917 revolution.

    My point is that Harper's attitude is entirely justifiable.

  168. Alberta sepearatists, Quebec separatists…any other provinces you can think of that play that game?

  169. If this was about having a Bloc PM, we’d all be in agreement that he/she would not be for the country. The question is whether Harper is a federalist. Granted it isn’t well argued here, but he’s certain not Pursued Policy to unite the country.

  170. I think you’ve got to the point. We have a PM who ISN’T proud of his country. There is a lot that could be better, but we need someone who will stand up for what we are as well as what we can be.

  171. Dictatorship with minority!

    Majority?! LOL! can you imagine the Harper regime with a majority government?! SCARY!.

  172. No i don't see anything anti-Albertan. And don't assume bud. In 30 odd years of being in Canada i've lived in AB for at least half of that period. I love the place – not so much its politics or its propanganda [ evryone has self serving view of themselves to some degree or other. So, stop with the victim card – it's pathetic.

    Perhaps you can tell us just how it amounts to being anti-Alberta, instead of just jerking your knee?

  173. But Michael Ignatieff is, at present, participating in one way or another, isn't he?

  174. Potter is in many ways a textbook study of the kind of un-Canadian-ness he is trying to construct around Harper. Potter's derision of somebody that would choose Calgary over Toronto is just as much a small Canada view as Harper's calls for firewalls. The only difference is that one vision (Potter's) is the gospel of the dominant central Canada, while the other comes from the periphery.

    Of course, Potter is probably not alone in considering his countrymen to be foreigners. Canada is a quilt of different regional identities, held together with hockey tape and maple syrup. Nobody really knows what it means to be Canadian, although each region paints its own story in an effort to influence our national dialogue. For some Canada is Tim Horton's, Vimy Ridge, and the Summit Series. For others Canada is Medicare, the flag, and the charter. For others still, it is Montcalm, the Fleur-de-lis and the quiet revolution.

    So it is in that light that we should see notions of Harper the America-lover, Ignatieff the absent cosmopolitan, and indeed of Duceppe the traitor. Each figure embodies distinct conceptions of what it means to be Canadian that are politically reflections of regional interests. Potter is no less engaged in that game than Harper, Ignatieff or Duceppe.

  175. Potter is in many ways a textbook study of the kind of un-Canadian-ness he is trying to construct around Harper. Potter's derision of somebody that would choose Calgary over Toronto is just as much a small Canada view as Harper's calls for firewalls. The only difference is that one vision (Potter's) is the gospel of the dominant central Canada, while the other comes from the periphery.

    Of course, Potter is probably not alone in considering his countrymen to be foreigners. Canada is a quilt of different regional identities, held together with hockey tape and maple syrup. Nobody really knows what it means to be Canadian, although each region paints its own story in an effort to influence our national dialogue. For some Canada is Tim Horton's, Vimy Ridge, and the Summit Series. For others Canada is Medicare, the flag, and the charter. For others still, it is Montcalm, the Fleur-de-lis and the quiet revolution.

    So it is in that light that we should see notions of Harper the America-lover, Ignatieff the absent cosmopolitan, and indeed of Duceppe the traitor. Each figure embodies distinct conceptions of what it means to be Canadian that are politically reflections of regional interests. Potter is no less engaged in that game than Harper, Ignatieff or Duceppe.

  176. Here you have another anti Harper colum by potter with little critisim of ignatieff to try and fool the readers into thinking its about anything other than anti Harper.The liberal media is just a much an enemy of Canada as the liberals themselves.

  177. Here you have another anti Harper colum by potter with little critisim of ignatieff to try and fool the readers into thinking its about anything other than anti Harper.The liberal media is just a much an enemy of Canada as the liberals themselves.

  178. Can't see how saying that someone is slamming a province is playing a 'victim card'. Or how that can be labeled pathetic.
    It is not simply jerking my knee, but I can see by now you don't get it.
    "Even though he grew up in Toronto's placid Leaside neighborhood, he quickly adopted the colonial mindset of the insecure migrant, becoming culturally more Albertan than Albertans."
    How about I re-write this for Potter.
    "Even though he grew up in Toronto, and should therefore have had sensible ideals, he quickly adopted the anti-Canadian mindset of the redneck, separatist Albertan, and he even adopted it to a greater degree than the average Albertan."
    I am assuming that Maclean's wouldn't have run it that way, but the ideas are probably pretty similar.
    For the record, I usually have pretty thick skin, and consider myself a Canadian first, but this was a pretty obvious slam to me. If you don't see it, fine, but I can tell by the numerous other posts, that I am not alone.

  179. As far as Ignatieff only coming back to try to govern it:
    I think we can all agree that Peter C. Newman has some good connections in the Liberal party. In the Jan 31, 2011 issue of Maclean's he wrote a piece about Keith Davey, who Newman claims invented the modern Liberal party. He basically writes of how Keith heard Ignatieff as a guest speaker, and told Rocco Rossi that 'that guy should be prime minister'. Rocci later told it to Ian Davey (Keith's son, who later became Iggy's chief of staff). Ian told it to Alf App, a liberal party bigwig. Ian to Alf "So I go, 'Michael Ignatieff'!?" "He goes, 'I like it.' "That's great. What do we do? He's at Harvard and doesn't know who we are.' "As only Alfred would do, he picks up the phone and calls him, gets through, we arrange to meet, and the rest is history."
    I think that speaks pretty plainly, as to why Ignatieff is here.

  180. I own all you tards. They owe their allegiance to the Council on Foreign Relation. Harper has nearly completed what Mulrooney started and Martin pushed forward. The Perimeter Security Agreement is the near completion of a New World Order agenda requirement. Peter is Pedro and the rest are y'all.
    Idiots, get yourselves out of that one….

  181. I own all you tards. They owe their allegiance to the Council on Foreign Relation. Harper has nearly completed what Mulrooney started and Martin pushed forward. The Perimeter Security Agreement is the near completion of a New World Order agenda requirement. Peter is Pedro and the rest are y'all.
    Idiots, get yourselves out of that one….

  182. Andrew Potter are you kidding!? Harper moves from the "centre of the universe" to Alberta, so he must hate Canada? He criticizes the federal government, and so he must hate Canada? He worries about the socialist bent of Canadian society and so he must hate Canada? Give me a break! I cannot believe you would seriously pen such nonsense; I used to like your writing but you've become so biased lately I don't even want to read it.

  183. Andrew Potter are you kidding!? Harper moves from the "centre of the universe" to Alberta, so he must hate Canada? He criticizes the federal government, and so he must hate Canada? He worries about the socialist bent of Canadian society and so he must hate Canada? Give me a break! I cannot believe you would seriously pen such nonsense; I used to like your writing but you've become so biased lately I don't even want to read it.

  184. Well put, Ivy.

  185. Well put, Ivy.

  186. You sure seem to know a lot about the States, Calda. How about moving there.

  187. Hi readers.

    Potter is comparing Harper to Ignatieff only to make a bold statement. Obviously Iggy is the external opportunist, but it is precisely because of this that he can be used as a litmus test to determine how invested any of the political leaders are in this country.

    And Potter's right, Harper is an opportunist as well.

    No, not as bad as Iggy. But do we want anyone in power who isn't fully sold on the foundations of this country?

    I'm sold. I think Canada nailed it. We are easily the best example of a functioning nation in America – just take a mere glance at the aggressive, war-based attitudes of all of Latin and Anglo America. Yes, Canada has made bad choices – that is a given for any country – but we've really done an incredible job. And any person who feels different, is not fit to be our Prime Minister.

    Potter rightfully reveals Harper's disdain for the glorious history and values of Canada.

    We all need to remember: Canada IS the anti-America. Sounds extreme, but its not. We carved out our own nation despite the US' best attempts to destroy us many times over. It has left such an effect on us that we don't even call ourselves American (which is the name of our continent(s) – not a country). Fortunately, we have since learned to cooperate with "America", but any Canadian who truly feels that the US or any other American country took the 'right' approach to nation building should really do his or her best to emigrate there. Like Ignatieff did.

  188. "Stephen Harper's commitment to Canada is even more suspect… colonial mindset of the insecure migrant… more Albertan than Albertans… infamous Alberta Agenda… alienated and embittered Albertan"

    Sooo… If I understand Mr. Potter right, Albertans are not Canadians? They're some sort of insidious foreigner-type doctrinal menace against true Canadianismists?

    Really Mr. Potter is correct, and Canada needs to do something about those evil foreign Albertans and their wicked-wicked ways.
    Forbidding them to run in elections would be a good start, what with their no-good-double-bad-plus "American" like thoughts and foreign beliefs.
    We could then shut down those dirty dirty, anti-Gaia, duck-murdering oilsands. It's always galled me how they have more money than the rest of us, and with their precious source of "employment" gone, they won't be looking so smug.
    We could call it; a "cap-and-trade system" or a "moratorium on new oilsands projects until the environmental consequences are fully assessed, lol".

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