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Palin: Canada should scrap public health care

Marg Delahunty gets answers from the darling of America’s right wing


 

When Marg Delahunty, comedian Mary Walsh’s outsized über-Canadian character on This Hour Has 22 Minutes, asked Sarah Palin what reforms Canada should undertake to its health-care system, the former vice-presidential candidate was unequivocal: “Canada needs to dismantle its public health-care system and allow private enterprise to get involved and turn a profit.” The exchange followed Walsh’s ambush of Palin at a book signing in Columbus, Ohio, where Walsh asked Palin to say “a few words of encouragement for the Canadian conservatives who have worked so tirelessly to destroy the socialized medicare that we have.” Walsh was promptly kicked out of the event by Palin’s security team, but managed to exchange a few words with Palin in the book store’s parking lot.

Canadian Press


 
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Palin: Canada should scrap public health care

  1. Palin 1 – Clowns from Canada 0

    • Do you have any reference I can study for your scoring system? It appears to exist outside of normal space-time.

    • seriously – palin 1? you're joking right? americans are so completely clueless about the world that exists outside of america that is scares me. how did one country get so, so, so stupid.

  2. I think the ideal system is our combination of Canada's public system and America's somewhat private system. If the Americans went full socialized we'd have to go overseas or to Mexico when our rationed system is short on capacity, restricting the ability to escape the help of our government to only the extra wealthy with time for a long flight.

    • I read once (and wish I could find again) that only one Western nation has fully only public health care (Canada), and only one Western nation has fully only private health care (USA), and everybody else has a mixture. Coincidentally (?) everyone else seems less insane about health care. Hmmm.

      • Most of the OECD top performing countries have a mixed system of private and public. The UK is moving (slowly) towards that as well.

      • Sorry. But you are wrong. The U.S. does not have the only private health care, there is no fully private health care in the U.S. You guys have Medicare and Medicaid, Tricare e.t.c. Your politicians are covered by government health services as well. Telling Canadians to "dismantle its public health-care system and allow private enterprise to get involved and turn a profit" is comparable to telling senior citizens they are going to loose their medicare. (not a pretty sight). In case you can stomach some numbers. A recent study found that 90 percent of Canadians support universal, single-payer health care. A poll taken last summer shows 82 percent of Canadians believe their health care system to be better than the US's, despite constant grumbling about waiting times for treatment of non-life-threatening conditions.
        And since when should "turn a profit" be the pivotal aspect of peoples health?
        And Switzerland would be a country that has only private health care. No Medicare, Medicaid e.t.c. But it is a heavily regulated system and private health insurers are not allowed to profit of their basic health care coverage.

    • I agree, if you look at the best systems in Europe they are the ones that mix public and private services. The only real problem for Canada is our population density outside the cities. There are vast swaths of this country that could not support a private medical system.

      • Actually, the rural types could see an advantage to private care. While many would not have the resources to support a hospital or an air ambulance, many could that are currently not be served by the public system.

        Very much a case of paying out privately for care that the government is not willing to provide.

  3. They have that system here in Australia, BOTH public AND private medicine, as they do in Canada. If you doubt that, see how long Workers Compensation is willing to wait for public surgery, they force you to accept private medicine to shorten the time you are on benefits awaiting public medicine (or they cancel your claim).
    Here in Australia they can take your home away to pay a medical bill, you are never refused medical care, but they can take anything you own to cover the bill (public or private bills).
    In Canada an unfortunate illness or injury will not cost you your entire existence, in the USA or Australia if you don't have the right insurance coverage, it can leave you living in a cardboard box in a park.
    Where would you rather live… ?

    • Our System is not perfect (anything that is devised by humans cannot be) but our shortcomings are mainly due that we beside a dysfunctional health system that rewards heroic (read expensive) interventions but failles miserably to provide basic and common health care (how mush does it cost to deliver a baby in the USA? and why do so many babis are born in emergency rooms?)

  4. **Updated Nov 25** with copies of letters from Privacy Commissioner of Canada
    and an audio.

    Suppressed Medical Records (File 5100-13465/001)

    St. Catharines, Ontario

    – Privacy Commissioner of Canada (Sect. 25,26,28)

    – C.M.H.A / C.A.M.H. – Brock University

    Further details Google:

    Medicine_Gone_Bad

    Medicine Gone Bad Blogspot

    or

    http://medicine-gone-bad.blogspot.com/

  5. health care is provincial jursdiction ..let the provinces experiment to get the best plan

    • If the feds had been telling the provinces how to do health care when Tommy Douglas was premier it wouldn't have happened when it did, and might not have for decades. Or maybe it just wouldn't have happened. I think the best system would be private with everyone required to get basic insurance and a tax credit that ensured everyone could get insurance. But it doesn't matter what I think, or even what a whole province thinks because it's a big diverse country with a one size fits all heath system.

  6. Everyone — from the government to doctors, nurses, technicians and therapists — wanted to deliver efficient, timely and compassionate care to those in need.

  7. You can see Canada from Ohio?

    You can see Canada from Ohio!

  8. I guess there is a first time for everything. Finally, Sarah Palin says something intelligent.

    • BTW I wish Mary Walsh's comment about conservatives doing everything they can to dismantle government healthcare was true. Alas, it's just a fantasy she and other social democrats employ so they can continue denying to themselves that socialist organisation is the cause of its our system's problems.

    • I'm Canadian and am astounded at the stupidity an uninformed glib response by Ms Palen.
      I lived in US for 15 years ….and was sooooooooooooooo happy to be back home with medical coverage.
      In the past 10 years, I have had several family members who have been desperately ill.
      in both cases – it was crystal clear to me that if we had been in the US… we would have been bankrupt, lost our home and life savings.
      I'm quite curious. Why is it that people in US cnnot see that health care availble to each of us is simply humane?

      When my beautiful partner was ill with a brain tumour –
      he was hospitalized, had surgery, follow up care, some home care, a palliative care physician who came to our home once per week to help, and in the end… compassionate pallative care the last 10 days of hs life – time without pain, kindness to all of his family…. all with no cost to us.
      My extended medical insurance through work costs approx $50 per month. I have friends in US paying approx $1200 per month.

      I don't have to choose between going for medical help and food on my table.

      I'm curious – what would Sarah Palin say to that?

  9. Being one of the few who have lived in the US and Canada and used healthcare in both countries, I have to say that Canada's system is a lot better than people realize.

    If you want it to improve, there is one simple (though costly) solution: invest more in equipment! More scanners, more techs, and work them as much as possible.

    The American system is literally drowning in paperwork and a mess of double- and triple-charging. Doctors are forced to charge an arm and a leg for even the simplest procedures, then let their secretarial staff argue ad infinitum with insurance companies.

    If the US could come up with a fixed price per procedure, the cost of healthcare would drop at least 10% in one day.

  10. I think you might be replying to the comment above mine. In any event: I'm Canadian, support universal single-payer, and think that going private to make money off health care is scary. I'm not certain how to feel about dental care in Canada (as an example), and I think there are probably ways to get private industry improving health care efficiency without costing the public money, but I'm not an expert so I stay away from that side of things.

    • I guess I was replying to your comment about the US being the only fully private health care (which they are not since they are not fully private) and to the other ones about all the other stuff. Sorry, I guess my comments just ran into one big thing. I fully agree with you. I used to live 10 years in the U.S. and that system sucks. I used to love my private only Swiss system and I like my Canadian health care now.

  11. If private enterprise can turn a profit from healthcare then why are they against the government having a health insurance plan?

    And isn't the reason our healthcare stinks is because everyone is more concerned with trying to make a profit and not about HEALTH?

  12. It is strange that there are those who will still call US healthcare "private". American healthcare one of the worst examples of excessive government regulation you can find. The reason insurance is so expensive is the ridiculous state laws forcing insurers to cover every doctor visit, every new drug, and every procedure under the sun. In the late 1960s, you could buy basic Blue Cross catastrophic coverage in both the US and Canada for $15 a year, with a $500 deductible (admittedly a lot of money in those days). Now, in a state like Minnesota, the insurers are required by law to cover hair transplants for men, if they can provide a doctor's note stating their hair loss is affecting their self-esteem. (And no, I'm not making that up – it was in David Gratzer's book Code Blue.)

  13. I wish Americans would begin to fix their own darned problems… and stop messing with other countries' solutions. At the same time… the same words could apply to a somewhat lesser degree to Canada.

    As for Sarah Palin, the woman is a lose cannon, who says one thing, and does another, and will do anything to become and stay famous, and to take whatever cash she can from anyone dumb enough to let her take some. Any competent debater could debate her into the ground in no time.

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