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Quebecers would support a coalition

Two in three say they’re worried Conservatives may get a majority


 

Stephen Harper and the Conservatives may not like the idea, but Quebecers don’t have a problem with coalitions. According to a new CROP survey, 61 per cent of Quebecers are perfectly comfortable with a Liberal-NDP coalition forming government with the support of the Bloc Québécois. Moreover, Quebecers are notably more warm to the idea of a coalition than they are to the prospects of a Conservative majority. Two-thirds of Quebecers say the possibility of a Conservative majority worries them. The poll results follow a decision by the Bloc Québécois to amend the party’s program to allow it to “sustain a coalition of political parties.”

La Presse


 
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Quebecers would support a coalition

  1. Let the games begin!!

  2. Let the games begin!!

  3. Well, THAT ought to put a grin on Harper's face! I can hear him now: "Okay boys, spark up the next round of propaganda ads in ROC… and make sure every second sentence you speak has the word "coalition" or "separatist" in it…

  4. Well, THAT ought to put a grin on Harper's face! I can hear him now: "Okay boys, spark up the next round of propaganda ads in ROC… and make sure every second sentence you speak has the word "coalition" or "separatist" in it…

    • And he would be right in doing so! About time someone sees the charade for what it is.

      • So you agree that roughly one-third of the voters should be entitled to establish rule over the other two-thirds. The Harper Party definition of democracy.

        • If that was good enough for the Liberals during some of the Chretien years then it should be good enough now, no?

          If not, then I agree with whatever you think is fine.

        • Clearly you aren't familiar with a single member plurality format for elections. This is the way democracy has worked in Canada since we've had a Parliament!

    • You are so right !!!! can ypu imagine how Iggy would respond … anyone and I mean anyone who responds in any way that the BLOQ would have any say in any way to a coalition is in effect guaranteeing harper a majority – there would be a pushback from out west here like you could not believe – sometimes I think easterners just don't get it.

  5. If politics such as being practiced in Canada would be described in fiction, no one would believe it. And here we are, eating up the gobbly gook which is being presented to us.

    Time to burn the place down and build a new one.

  6. If politics such as being practiced in Canada would be described in fiction, no one would believe it. And here we are, eating up the gobbly gook which is being presented to us.

    Time to burn the place down and build a new one.

    • Outraged that one of the tenants is looking into moving out, FV moves towards arson as the ultimate solution: arson.

      Why don't we more patriots willing to stand up for Canada by destroying it?

    • That is exactly what Hitler did to the Reichstag. Nice plan.

      In the 1920's he did similar things to weaken democracy to what Harper has been doing.

      Now I am not comparing the two…but the similarities are interesting…to say the least.

  7. Comment pouvons-nous accepter une coalition avec les maudites fédéralistes?

  8. Comment pouvons-nous accepter une coalition avec les maudites fédéralistes?

    • maudites??? gâté…………….

  9. And he would be right in doing so! About time someone sees the charade for what it is.

  10. maudites??? gâté…………….

  11. Well of course they would. They would have the best of both worlds, the sepratist blackmailers and the weak kneed givers (not saying that the conservatives haven't been weak kneed themselves). Just watch the country west of the lakehead blowing up if this comes to pass.

  12. Well of course they would. They would have the best of both worlds, the sepratist blackmailers and the weak kneed givers (not saying that the conservatives haven't been weak kneed themselves). Just watch the country west of the lakehead blowing up if this comes to pass.

    • "The country west of the lakehead" has very little understanding of how our democracy works…see the 40 year old one party rule in Alberta.

      Funny that Harper in 1997 had now problem with coalitions…when it was to his benefit. Now it is supposed to be some bogeyman? What hypocrisy.

      I have more faith in the opposition, that includes Duceppe, then I do in the Republican lower taxes, bankrupt the state philosophy of the Harper crowd. Look at Alberta…with all their oil revenues, those geniuses are not even able to run balanced budgets. Brilliant.

  13. Appears no one cares what quebec would accept. One thing they haven't got the balls to accept, running their own Nation. Because they are DNA parasitic.

  14. Appears no one cares what quebec would accept. One thing they haven't got the balls to accept, running their own Nation. Because they are DNA parasitic.

  15. Québécoise aren't the only ones who'd accept a coalition government! I have my own reservations regarding both NDP and Liberal policies — particularly where our military is concerned — but many Conservative policies are dangerous to our rights as free Canadians (free to think for ourselves and to maintain our own distinctiveness).

  16. Québécoise aren't the only ones who'd accept a coalition government! I have my own reservations regarding both NDP and Liberal policies — particularly where our military is concerned — but many Conservative policies are dangerous to our rights as free Canadians (free to think for ourselves and to maintain our own distinctiveness).

  17. Anything is OK with me as long as we rid ourselves of the Conservatives. Coalitions work well.

  18. Anything is OK with me as long as we rid ourselves of the Conservatives. Coalitions work well.

  19. Outraged that one of the tenants is looking into moving out, FV moves towards arson as the ultimate solution: arson.

    Why don't we more patriots willing to stand up for Canada by destroying it?

  20. All the pricks who are in the parliament are goons fed by corporate money with one single goal in mind make sure the rich get more sweet deals and the poor get more taxed. Now it's just the rule of money pretty much and the rest of us will deal with the consequences.

    Just look south of the border to foresee our future

  21. All the pricks who are in the parliament are goons fed by corporate money with one single goal in mind make sure the rich get more sweet deals and the poor get more taxed. Now it's just the rule of money pretty much and the rest of us will deal with the consequences.

    Just look south of the border to foresee our future

  22. Quebecers are democratic. We have had a coalition for five years. As long as the majority of members in parliament consent to it. I don't care what parties the coalitiion is comprised of.

  23. Quebecers are democratic. We have had a coalition for five years. As long as the majority of members in parliament consent to it. I don't care what parties the coalitiion is comprised of.

    • i could only see a coalition being acceptable if the first place party is a part of it, otherwise it's a coalition of losers

  24. The most important part of this article to me is hearing that the Bloc has amended their program to allow it to sustain a coalition. It's a small step.. but it is a step.. toward them dropping the whole separation aspect.

    They've dipped a toe into governing for Canada.. let's hope they continue in.

  25. The most important part of this article to me is hearing that the Bloc has amended their program to allow it to sustain a coalition. It's a small step.. but it is a step.. toward them dropping the whole separation aspect.

    They've dipped a toe into governing for Canada.. let's hope they continue in.

    • That's why they keep voting separation down, is it?

      I suggest another alternative explanation, that the people of Quebec are the only ones that have it right. They're electing the MPs that best represent their province and their ridings.

      That the Bloc is now willing to work with other parties suggests to me that their MPs are finally getting the message the Quebec people have put forward in every referendum. Their MPs are becoming even better representatives for the people.

      Meanwhile.. what have our MPs done for us lately? How have they reflected our views?

    • No more so then western Canadians.

  26. I see the media are continuing to sell the only chance the Liberals have at seizing power after they lose the next election that they are about to force… "The Liberal/Separatist alliance… it's not so bad… honestly". The media would love to have their Separatist comrades running the country, but unfortunately for the media thats not a sentiment shared by most of the country, no matter how hard they try and sell it.

  27. I see the media are continuing to sell the only chance the Liberals have at seizing power after they lose the next election that they are about to force… "The Liberal/Separatist alliance… it's not so bad… honestly". The media would love to have their Separatist comrades running the country, but unfortunately for the media thats not a sentiment shared by most of the country, no matter how hard they try and sell it.

  28. So you agree that roughly one-third of the voters should be entitled to establish rule over the other two-thirds. The Harper Party definition of democracy.

  29. If that was good enough for the Liberals during some of the Chretien years then it should be good enough now, no?

    If not, then I agree with whatever you think is fine.

  30. Billions more welfare dollars would flow Quebec's way if they could leverage themselves in a coalition with the socialists, of course they would support one. Duh.

  31. Billions more welfare dollars would flow Quebec's way if they could leverage themselves in a coalition with the socialists, of course they would support one. Duh.

  32. Seems unlikely to me.

    If Quebec was keen on a Liberal/NDP coalition or merger, they wouldn't keep voting for the Bloc.

  33. Seems unlikely to me.

    If Quebec was keen on a Liberal/NDP coalition or merger, they wouldn't keep voting for the Bloc.

    • Totally agree. If Quebeckers were so concerned, why are they electing the Bloc which basically ensures a lack of majority governments federally..?

      • Not only ensures we have minority govts federally [either party] who can't get anything done, but it cuts them out of any decision making. The only Quebecois at the cabinet table are people they don't agree with politically.

        And the Bloc can't do anything to give them separation. Only a provincial govt could do that, and they don't seem enthused about the PQ either. Or separation for that matter.

        So they have Harper, and complain about him too.

        Doesn't make much sense.

  34. Totally agree. If Quebeckers were so concerned, why are they electing the Bloc which basically ensures a lack of majority governments federally..?

  35. Not only ensures we have minority govts federally [either party] who can't get anything done, but it cuts them out of any decision making. The only Quebecois at the cabinet table are people they don't agree with politically.

    And the Bloc can't do anything to give them separation. Only a provincial govt could do that, and they don't seem enthused about the PQ either. Or separation for that matter.

    So they have Harper, and complain about him too.

    Doesn't make much sense.

  36. The Bloc is kind of like a public sector union for french Canadians.

  37. The Bloc is kind of like a public sector union for french Canadians.

    • I didnt know that!

  38. Easier for Quebecers to blackmail ROC for more handouts if there is coalition, what's not to like? At least they can postpone growing up for few more years.

  39. Easier for Quebecers to blackmail ROC for more handouts if there is coalition, what's not to like? At least they can postpone growing up for few more years.

  40. The view of Quebec here is what is in their own best interest. In their political beleif, they gain far more with a coalition in that their political base is more likely to be protected. An example of this is in the need for the Commons to better reflect the population changes. The opposition opposes anything that would be seen to reduce Quebec's power in Canada, even to the point of giving Quebec more seats to balance and growth in Ontario and the West.

    When one looks at the polls, one always notices that the ROC (except the GTA) has still shown its support to the Conservatives. In theory, the Tories could win a majority even with a similar or lesser result in Quebec. No doubt this is what certainly "worries" voters in Quebec. It comes all down to the power aspect than anything else.

  41. The view of Quebec here is what is in their own best interest. In their political beleif, they gain far more with a coalition in that their political base is more likely to be protected. An example of this is in the need for the Commons to better reflect the population changes. The opposition opposes anything that would be seen to reduce Quebec's power in Canada, even to the point of giving Quebec more seats to balance and growth in Ontario and the West.

    When one looks at the polls, one always notices that the ROC (except the GTA) has still shown its support to the Conservatives. In theory, the Tories could win a majority even with a similar or lesser result in Quebec. No doubt this is what certainly "worries" voters in Quebec. It comes all down to the power aspect than anything else.

  42. Although I support the PC’s, I wouldn’t worry if I lived in Quebec. The Conservatives are not a “real”,Big “C” Conservative party anymore like they used to be. They’re more in the middle which is not a good thing if you like the way a real Conservative Party is supposed to be. The British National Party in England is my idea of a real Conservative Party. They want to take back England to make it like it once was (bnp.org.uk) and is the fastest growing Political Party in England.

    I hope in the future,someone starts a Party like that, here.I have a feeling they would do very well.

    I’d join in a heartbeat.

  43. Although I support the PC’s, I wouldn’t worry if I lived in Quebec. The Conservatives are not a “real”,Big “C” Conservative party anymore like they used to be. They’re more in the middle which is not a good thing if you like the way a real Conservative Party is supposed to be. The British National Party in England is my idea of a real Conservative Party. They want to take back England to make it like it once was (bnp.org.uk) and is the fastest growing Political Party in England.
    I hope in the future,someone starts a Party like that, here.I have a feeling they would do very well.
    I’d join in a heartbeat.

    • When were they more conservative? When they were Reform?

    • "They want to take back England to make it like it once was "

      So..full of trees and guys painted blue?

      Or with legions of Italians (ok, Romans) building roads?

      See, rhetoric works best when unexplained.

    • I'm sure there must be a federal racist fascist party somewhere in Canada Greg, and they don't seem to be electing any members so you're "do very well" theory seems incorrect.

    • What's wrong with assertion is that, based on performance, the Liberals are the real Conservative party as they continue to defend the status quo. The current Tories are starting to act more like classic liberals.

  44. If the people of Quebec really wanted a Liberal-NDP coalition, maybe they should stop voting for the Bloc and instead vote for the NDP or Liberals so that they have enough seats to make a legitimate coalition. If the sum of the Liberal and NDP seats is less than the number of Conservative seats, there is no way the rest of Canada would accept any coalition.

  45. If the people of Quebec really wanted a Liberal-NDP coalition, maybe they should stop voting for the Bloc and instead vote for the NDP or Liberals so that they have enough seats to make a legitimate coalition. If the sum of the Liberal and NDP seats is less than the number of Conservative seats, there is no way the rest of Canada would accept any coalition.

  46. When were they more conservative? When they were Reform?

  47. I find myself going back and forth (flip-flopping, you might say, on this issue). When the idea of a coalition first reared it's head a year ago, I was totally against it. I felt like it was usurping the will of the people, but since then I've asked myself, "Is a minority government fulfilling the will of the majority of voters?"

    If you look around the world at other parliamentary democracies, coalitions are commonplace — even in countries like Germany with an enviable quality of life. Maybe we just need to get used to the idea.

    And not that it necessarily matters, but before everyone assumes I am a NDP voter looking for a turn at the trough, my MP is Peter MacKay and I did vote for him and would do so again.

  48. I find myself going back and forth (flip-flopping, you might say, on this issue). When the idea of a coalition first reared it's head a year ago, I was totally against it. I felt like it was usurping the will of the people, but since then I've asked myself, "Is a minority government fulfilling the will of the majority of voters?"

    If you look around the world at other parliamentary democracies, coalitions are commonplace — even in countries like Germany with an enviable quality of life. Maybe we just need to get used to the idea.

    And not that it necessarily matters, but before everyone assumes I am a NDP voter looking for a turn at the trough, my MP is Peter MacKay and I did vote for him and would do so again.

  49. That's why they keep voting separation down, is it?

    I suggest another alternative explanation, that the people of Quebec are the only ones that have it right. They're electing the MPs that best represent their province and their ridings.

    That the Bloc is now willing to work with other parties suggests to me that their MPs are finally getting the message the Quebec people have put forward in every referendum. Their MPs are becoming even better representatives for the people.

    Meanwhile.. what have our MPs done for us lately? How have they reflected our views?

  50. "They want to take back England to make it like it once was "

    So..full of trees and guys painted blue?

    Or with legions of Italians (ok, Romans) building roads?

    See, rhetoric works best when unexplained.

  51. I'm sure there must be a federal racist fascist party somewhere in Canada Greg, and they don't seem to be electing any members so you're "do very well" theory seems incorrect.

  52. That is exactly what Hitler did to the Reichstag. Nice plan.

    In the 1920's he did similar things to weaken democracy to what Harper has been doing.

    Now I am not comparing the two…but the similarities are interesting…to say the least.

  53. "The country west of the lakehead" has very little understanding of how our democracy works…see the 40 year old one party rule in Alberta.

    Funny that Harper in 1997 had now problem with coalitions…when it was to his benefit. Now it is supposed to be some bogeyman? What hypocrisy.

    I have more faith in the opposition, that includes Duceppe, then I do in the Republican lower taxes, bankrupt the state philosophy of the Harper crowd. Look at Alberta…with all their oil revenues, those geniuses are not even able to run balanced budgets. Brilliant.

  54. No more so then western Canadians.

  55. I didnt know that!

  56. What's wrong with assertion is that, based on performance, the Liberals are the real Conservative party as they continue to defend the status quo. The current Tories are starting to act more like classic liberals.

  57. Once again, the headline misses the real story. About 79% of Quebec voted for the parties that made up the coalition. That only 61% would be comfortable with coalition rule suggests that, as in English Canada, the sum is less than its parts. A coalition is only possible if its constituent parts lie to voters about their intentions to form a coalition.

  58. Once again, the headline misses the real story. About 79% of Quebec voted for the parties that made up the coalition. That only 61% would be comfortable with coalition rule suggests that, as in English Canada, the sum is less than its parts. A coalition is only possible if its constituent parts lie to voters about their intentions to form a coalition.

  59. i could only see a coalition being acceptable if the first place party is a part of it, otherwise it's a coalition of losers

  60. it would be great if the Conservatives tabled the bill that was to give Alberta, BC and Ontario more seats … that way Quebec will have less influence, as is only fair

  61. it would be great if the Conservatives tabled the bill that was to give Alberta, BC and Ontario more seats … that way Quebec will have less influence, as is only fair

  62. Clearly you aren't familiar with a single member plurality format for elections. This is the way democracy has worked in Canada since we've had a Parliament!

  63. hahahahahah ! what a way to make Stevie boys day – quick soemone ask Iggy or jack what they think? – ROFL!!!

  64. hahahahahah ! what a way to make Stevie boys day – quick soemone ask Iggy or jack what they think? – ROFL!!!

  65. You are so right !!!! can ypu imagine how Iggy would respond … anyone and I mean anyone who responds in any way that the BLOQ would have any say in any way to a coalition is in effect guaranteeing harper a majority – there would be a pushback from out west here like you could not believe – sometimes I think easterners just don't get it.

  66. So Quebecers would feel better with a government made up of socialists, lynchpinned by separatists? Shocking. Please run on this concept in the next election boys.

    A Conservative majority is all but assured….

  67. So Quebecers would feel better with a government made up of socialists, lynchpinned by separatists? Shocking. Please run on this concept in the next election boys.

    A Conservative majority is all but assured….

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