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Sheer damn brilliance


 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y62TiIY8a14

Thank you, Toronto, for being able to laugh at yourself. Plus: Sonja Smitts! Hot damn. Remember Traders?


 
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Sheer damn brilliance

  1. They'll pay for Mel Lastman's idiotic panic for years to come.

    Of course they may be paying for their most recent mayor even longer than that. LOL

  2. They'll pay for Mel Lastman's idiotic panic for years to come.

    Of course they may be paying for their most recent mayor even longer than that. LOL

  3. Heh, you should see the chaos when it snows in Vancouver or Victoria – you would think there had been a direct-hit meteor shower – mind you they dont have snowtires or $60,000 pick-up trucks, lol

  4. At least the CBC and other media outlets don't make it a national news item when it happens there, or in Calgary for that matter. My friends in Vancouver were hit hard a while back, schools were apparently closed, streets were basically empty.

  5. True dat

  6. At Toronto? Try at the media. They're who this is about, although they try to pin it on real people.

  7. At Toronto? Try at the media. They're who this is about, although they try to pin it on real people.

  8. Oh God, please, no!…I have family there!

  9. Oh God, please, no!…I have family there!

    • Our prayers are with you and yours.

  10. Just for people who forgot, that whole thing happened after the third major storm in 2 weeks hit the city, dropping the last of over 100 cm of snow on Toronto.

    Just sayin'.

  11. Just for people who forgot, that whole thing happened after the third major storm in 2 weeks hit the city, dropping the last of over 100 cm of snow on Toronto.

    Just sayin'.

    • And the snow removal budget was already way over-budget, and commuter trains couldn't get into the downtown, etc.

      I was there and I know the decision was completely logical and in the best interest of Toronto.

      But it was still, at the same time, stupid.

      • I agree that it looked stupid, but I'm not sure what the alternative was (besides just shrugging and accepting that people were going to die because emergency vehicles couldn't navigate the streets). Was there some group other than the Army around with lots of heavy equipment and the ability to move it where needed on short notice? The streets were clogged with snow and the City had insufficient equipment and manpower to deal with it all.

        I just don't think most people who mock the call of the Canadian Forces for assistance think about the fact that the alternative was to just have citizens deal with the fact that ambulances, police cruisers and fire trucks couldn't get to them and they were on their own.

  12. That could have something to do with the fact that a storm in the greater Vancouver area effects about 2 million Canadians, a storm in the greater Calgary area about 1 million Canadians and a storm in the GTA about 5 million Canadians.

    I get why people outside of the GTA would get a little sick of hearing about GTA news all of the time, but what is the media supposed to do? When a story happens that effects almost 15% of Canadians, it's gonna get reported more than stories that effect less than 6%

  13. And the snow removal budget was already way over-budget, and commuter trains couldn't get into the downtown, etc.

    I was there and I know the decision was completely logical and in the best interest of Toronto.

    But it was still, at the same time, stupid.

  14. To append to LdKitchener's comment: during that winter, ordinary citizens coped with all the snow just fine. Neighbours agreed where to build the heaps of snow, and drivers obligingly got out of each other's way when necessary.

    The problem was that Toronto's older neighbourhoods have no lawns on which to dump snow, so people were forced to put it in piles that inevitably spilled out onto the streets. This reduced traffic on side streets to one lane, which made it impossible for emergency services such as fire and ambulance to get to houses in time (since traffic would inevitably be coming the other way, and would have to reverse into somebody's driveway to make way). Thus the need for emergency help to get the snow out of there.

    Non-Torontonians sometimes claim that Toronto should have been prepared for large snowfalls, the way other Canadian cities are. But, in the 20th century, Toronto had 100 cm of snow exactly as often as it was hit by a hurricane (once each). No city budget is ever generous enough to cover an event that happens once a century.

    Admittedly, Mel Lastman was a chronic over-reactor and someone who tended to put both feet in his mouth when public speaking. And, sure, poking fun at Toronto ("Hey, it's snowing! Maybe they'll call out the Army!") is a Canadian national pastime. But there was a real problem that needed to be solved, even if bringing in the troops wasn't the best solution.

    In times of gloom, I wonder: if an actual disaster struck Toronto, would our neighbours help us, or are we on our own?

  15. I agree they had a major problem…but it was the Lastman 'I'm scared so I'm calling out the army' speech that did it.

    If he'd simply said they'd run out of room, and money, and were facing another blizzard which required extra muscle to handle it wouldn't have sounded like an invasion!

    Of course your neighbours would come to your aid…they always have. It's just the usual griping of people in the hinterland on a slow day.

  16. I agree they had a major problem…but it was the Lastman 'I'm scared so I'm calling out the army' speech that did it.

    If he'd simply said they'd run out of room, and money, and were facing another blizzard which required extra muscle to handle it wouldn't have sounded like an invasion!

    Of course your neighbours would come to your aid…they always have. It's just the usual griping of people in the hinterland on a slow day.

  17. I agree that it looked stupid, but I'm not sure what the alternative was (besides just shrugging and accepting that people were going to die because emergency vehicles couldn't navigate the streets). Was there some group other than the Army around with lots of heavy equipment and the ability to move it where needed on short notice? The streets were clogged with snow and the City had insufficient equipment and manpower to deal with it all.

    I just don't think most people who mock the call of the Canadian Forces for assistance think about the fact that the alternative was to just have citizens deal with the fact that ambulances, police cruisers and fire trucks couldn't get to them and they were on their own.

  18. There was a real problem that needed to be solved, even if bringing in the troops wasn't the best solution.

    I'm just not convinced there was any other solution. If the problem is that you have insufficient manpower and equipment to clear the snow from a once in a century storm, who else is going to have the equipment you need, and the ability to get it to you fast?

  19. There was a real problem that needed to be solved, even if bringing in the troops wasn't the best solution.

    I'm just not convinced there was any other solution. If the problem is that you have insufficient manpower and equipment to clear the snow from a once in a century storm, who else is going to have the equipment you need, and the ability to get it to you fast?

    • Obviously the free market had not been given time to work its libertarian magic before that commie lastman entered the scene with his tax-payer borne distortions!

      • Come on! you have Lord Kitchener (or somethin) as your avatar! It is snow!!

        • If massive amounts of snow was preventing ambulances from getting to sick people, or fire trucks from getting to fires, I'm CERTAIN that Lord Kitchener would have used the army to help move it out of the way and save peoples' lives.

  20. Our prayers are with you and yours.

  21. Obviously the free market had not been given time to work its libertarian magic before that commie lastman entered the scene with his tax-payer borne distortions!

  22. Come on! you have Lord Kitchener (or somethin) as your avatar! It is snow!!

  23. Since when is a snow storm in Canada "news"? Okay, if it happened in July it MIGHT be news, but it's February!

  24. Just as the cold air that hits the States every winter comes from Canada, the moisture in the snowstorm comes from the States. FREE TRADE AT LAST !!

  25. Just as the cold air that hits the States every winter comes from Canada, the moisture in the snowstorm comes from the States. FREE TRADE AT LAST !!

  26. Hey….did you hear Al Gore's explanation?

    Apparently, all this snow and cold weather is the result of Global Warming.

    Who knew?

  27. I certainly agree with you that yesterday's storm should hardly have been considered to constitute "news". However, the 100+ centimeters of snow Toronto got back in 1999 was basically a once-in-a-century type of winter weather event, so THAT was CERTAINLY news, imho.

  28. If massive amounts of snow was preventing ambulances from getting to sick people, or fire trucks from getting to fires, I'm CERTAIN that Lord Kitchener would have used the army to help move it out of the way and save peoples' lives.

  29. Your stupidity is really in a class by itself, James.

  30. Your stupidity is really in a class by itself, James.

  31. Heh, you should see the chaos when it snows in Vancouver or Victoria – you would think there had been a direct-hit meteor shower – mind you they dont have snowtires or $60,000 pick-up trucks, lol

    • At least the CBC and other media outlets don't make it a national news item when it happens there, or in Calgary for that matter. My friends in Vancouver were hit hard a while back, schools were apparently closed, streets were basically empty.

      • That could have something to do with the fact that a storm in the greater Vancouver area effects about 2 million Canadians, a storm in the greater Calgary area about 1 million Canadians and a storm in the GTA about 5 million Canadians.

        I get why people outside of the GTA would get a little sick of hearing about GTA news all of the time, but what is the media supposed to do? When a story happens that effects almost 15% of Canadians, it's gonna get reported more than stories that effect less than 6%

        • Since when is a snow storm in Canada "news"? Okay, if it happened in July it MIGHT be news, but it's February!

          • I certainly agree with you that yesterday's storm should hardly have been considered to constitute "news". However, the 100+ centimeters of snow Toronto got back in 1999 was basically a once-in-a-century type of winter weather event, so THAT was CERTAINLY news, imho.

      • True dat

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