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The Palin Republicans

Why the GOP’s indulgence of its lunatic fringe could be its undoing


 

The Palin Republicans No one can deny that the GOP, celebrating 155 years of existence this year, has been a significant factor in the American polity. The Republicans have won 22 presidential elections to the Democrats’ 16, and can lay claim to the one president that transcended partisan politics–Abraham Lincoln. No Democratic president in history comes close, not even FDR. Lincoln’s leadership in the civil war and his abolition of slavery are often portrayed as American achievements as opposed to Republican successes. The GOP has also had at least three dominant periods in which they fashioned social, economic, and international policy: 1893 to 1912, 1921 to 1933 and 1980 to 2008. There were excesses along the way but, generally speaking, the party’s history revolves around a legitimate conception of America and how it should be governed. That has been true until this year.

Ever since Obama’s inauguration, the Republicans have struggled to gain any traction as a viable alternative. Since then, Obama’s approval numbers have gone down sharply, but the Republicans have not benefited in any noticeable way. Last week’s silly outburst by Joe Wilson, a Republican from South Carolina, may have made him a hero to Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and the rest of the lunatic right. But it did little to make his party seem like legitimate counterweight to the Democrats. Similarly, this Saturday’s Tea Party protests seem grassroots enough, but the rhetoric emerging from its spokespersons leaves the impression that the Republican party is now just a party of protest. It is no longer playing the role of the guardian of conservatism. Consider, for instance, how Sarah Palin’s false charges of death panels did little other than derail a legitimate debate on health care reform. As a result, the battle over health care is now an intra-party contest within the Democratic party.

What is astonishing is how the Republican leadership seems oblivious to all this. It is now obvious the Democrats have given up on getting any bipartisan support regarding healthcare reform or on climate change legislation. You would expect more support from the GOP on the economy considering that many of the initiatives were started by George Bush, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, and Federal Reserve Chairman, Ben Bernanke, a Republican nominee. Same goes for Sonia Sotomayor’s nomination to the Supreme Court. Even John McCain, a moderate Republican and the co-author of an immigration reform bill with Ted Kennedy, voted against her. Sotomayor was not a controversial choice and represented an opportunity for the GOP to make inroads with Hispanics. On health care, according to many observers, some of the GOP’s ideas will make their way into the final package and there is a real possibility that the dreaded public option will be dropped. At the end of the day, the image conveyed at Obama’s speech last week was that of a bunch of grumpy white men sitting on their hands and contributing very little to the debate.

Is it too late for the Republicans? No, not if the Senate Finance committee comes up with a proposal that has potential to garner some bipartisan support down the road. Still, Sarah Palin’s missive I referenced above has come to symbolize the shallow, oppose-at-all-costs approach to public policy that has dominated the public discourse since last January. Quite frankly, Palin energizes a base that talk radio hosts like Limbaugh and Beck use to exploit fear and misinformation. Even McCain, who keeps defending Palin, sometimes with apparent discomfort, contradicts her view on the death panels. And yet, Palin leads many polls for the 2012 Republican nomination and will draw huge crowds once she hits the speech circuit this fall—this, despite how pathetic she was in interviews with Katie Couric of CBS and Charles Gibson of ABC when tasked with explaining policy. As long as her views drive the debate away from any reasonable proposals coming from Republicans in Congress, the GOP will remain marginal in the debate over any policy direction.


 

The Palin Republicans

  1. false charges of death panels

    As long as you believe this is "false," as opposed to "extrapolating from the known behaviour of bureaucracies and public servants," you will lose the health care debate. Period. Full stop.

    And yet, Palin leads many polls for the 2012 Republican nomination and will draw huge crowds once she hits the speech circuit this fall

    Funny how so many people just refuse to accept your view of the world, and acknowledge that that horrible woman is so stupid and evil, isn't it? Must be awfully frustrating.

  2. Since the last election I have become politically active. I have never been so before.

    I am sick and tired of all the spending. I don't like socialism or big government.

    I don't like Obama or his policies.

    The conservatives have a new money donor in me… not much, but since I never gave before, it is good for them.

    • "A fool and his money are soon parted."
      – Thomas Trusser

      You might as well just burn it my friend. You can get crazy for free.

      • I agree but you can deduct it from your taxes, which seems kinda of strange in its self. I have seen many articles in the past talk about the Christian wing of the Republican party was going to destroy the party but that has never seem to happen. Ironically, Obama was pushing for votes from the Christian community also during the last election. So I think Mr. Parisella is wishing for the fall of the Republicans more than anything else.

    • Might there be another reason other than actual racism why you casually accuse your ideological opponents of racism? Maybe desperation, and a paucity of popular policy content? Just a thought.

    • Might there be another reason other than actual racism why you casually accuse your ideological opponents of racism? Maybe desperation, and a paucity of actual policy content? Just a thought.

    • So Geo, how the hell do you know the colour of Rob's skin, you idiot?

    • SOCIALISM????? Are you really serious? You babble like a true Republican…..BTW BUSH approved the TARP. BUSH was at the helm of administrations that spent more then any other, BUSH effectivly nationalized airport security….does that sound like someone more inline with your Conservative Populist politics. I suppose it is esier to regurgitate sound-bites then to get informed and think.

    • Hey Rob,
      Next time your house is burning down dont bother calling 911 ok, with all their beauracracy Im sure the paperwork won't be done in time anyway. And dont bother sending your kids to school either. Im sure you dont believe in evolution but Im sure they wont evolve past your genetic limitations so what would be the point. In fact lets just homeschool our children. That way we can really indoctrinate them into believeing the planet is only 6000 or so years old. When they ask about the dino's just tell them that they were the original conservatives. But back to fiscal conservatism, I think its great that your donating money to the small govt GOP, I mean its not like they put the US into the greatest debt in history with a series of oil wars that have made no one any safer and the US even more despised. But don't worry, Im sure that your free-market thinking kids wontmind payingback the interest on that debt for their entire lives, although Im notsure how much McDonalds is paying these days! No Im just kidding, the way were going,the planet wontbearoundthat long anyway, so lets party!

  3. false charges of death panels

    As long as you believe this is "false," as opposed to "extrapolating from the known behaviour of bureaucracies and public servants," you will lose the health care debate. Period. Full stop. Obama's plans are bogged down because he's gone to the well too many times on the strength of his personal charisma; his policy promises are already being treated with the same credibility as those of a lame-duck seventh-year administration.

    And yet, Palin leads many polls for the 2012 Republican nomination and will draw huge crowds once she hits the speech circuit this fall

    Funny how so many people refuse to accept the media common wisdom, and won't just acknowledge that that horrible woman is so stupid and evil and infuriating, isn't it? Must be awfully frustrating.

  4. Many wrote off the GOP in 1993 after Bill Clinton was elected. A year later Newt brought it back with a roar under the Contract with America. Yes, the GOP needs new blood and Palin is not the one to do it.But I do not share your pessimism. There are new GOP leaders such as Romney ready to emerge.

    • Where are they going to get all that new blood? Perhaps the sneering and pugnacious septagenerian masses who tea-bagged their way to town halls screaming, "Keep your guverment off meh Medicare!" will step up. Yeah we all know every 20 year old who wants to join grandpa shriek about the dastardly evils of public healthcare or hear from the good ole' boys in the Klan how when they were young they used to be able to own slaves, before the wretched FEDs came in.

      • Ahem, the Klan was the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party, also known as the party of white supremecy. Bull Connor, George Wallace, Lester Maddox, all Democrats. Jim Crow was a Democrat Party invention.

        • and…Lincoln was a Republican

        • Thanks for the history lesson Bubba! Next time don't forget Sen. Byrd and his Klan affiliation.

          However, as we also know the Southern Whites went into the arms of the Republicans when Nixon employed his "Southern Strategy" to enhance white alienation, "negrophobia", and contempt at northern liberals who supported integration. The racist dixiecrats, like that hypocrite Strom Thurmond, switched parties and became a Republicans. And of course Uncle Ronnie Reagan went into the primaries preaching state's rights, ie. code for anti-minority rights.

          What have the Republicans done for people of color, women, or immigrants the past 50 years? They've prevented employment discrimination laws from being enacted, prevented legislation to allow mothers from having paid maternity leave (nice family values), and when their supporters are not killing or incarcerating immigrants, they are shrieking about them stealing good ole' American jobs.

        • good point,Amor.

      • Condemnation before investigation are the signs of an idiot ~ You're not an idiot are you, Lifer? Maybe you should check out your facts before you offer opinions! I'm one of those "grandpa's" and Medicare is NOT something I "chose"; when you turn 65, the "gubment" sticks you on it and you end up with "approved" treatments they pay between 34% and 65% of and the healthcare provider "eats" the rest of his charges! How many healthcare providers do you suppose can afford to live on 34% of what they receive from non-Medicare patients? And you wonder why your healthcare insurance costs keep rising? Get a clue! MOST Medicare patients would prefer the old insurance they enjoyed before the "nanny state" dictated to them! And before you blow a gasket, where do you think the medical insurance companies learned how to screw you on coverage? They watched the feds restrict Medicare procedures on retirees as the system became overloaded with customers! Corruption breeds corruption! Do you think I want to see my kids and granddkids forced onto this bankrupt system and learn to have to live with "managed care"? NO! As dopey as your comments are, I would not want even you subjected to government-run healthcare! Learn the facts and to do that, you will have to stop watching the talking heads on the "Lame Stream Media" and read the bill, HR 3200!

    • Most of you do not "get it" and it's because you seem to believe the Tea Party movement is Republican! I do not know how better to explain this to you so I guess I will have to speak r-e-a-l s-l-o-w and tell you FIRST: Stop listening to the talking head on the "Lame Stream Media" ~ They have their own 'progressive' agenda and if they can convince their watchers and readers that we are and "astroturf" REPUBLICAN "movement", we can be dismissed as mindless shills! If anything, the Tea Party movement despises the Republicans MORE than we despise the Democrats! BOTH these parties are infested with 'progressives' bent on destroying our Republic and Free Market system for their own socialist agenda! The Republicans gave us John McCain to run against Obama! 'Progressive' and 'progressive-lite'! There was no "choice"! Given the choice between a "wannabe" (McCain) and the "real deal" (Obama), American voters will always select the "real deal"! Many of us admire Sarah Palin, NOT because she's "ready" for the office but because she's way beyond the "party line" ~ Remember, this is the Governor who cleaned up her Republican members because of corruption as well as Democrats involved in corruption! The Tea Party movement isn't looking at "party affiliation"; we look for individual stands on issues and their support of our Constitution! I, for one of many, would just as soon see both major parties DIE so the People can start over and end the corruption! After all, we have renamed the capitol: Washington, DISTRICT OF CRIMINALS!! So, please, before you start spouting off about something, check out your "facts" before you open your mouth! THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT IS NOT ~ I REPEAT ~ IS NOT A REPUBLICAN GROUP!!!

      • I agree with Leon about the Tea party not being part of the Republican party. You convinced me . Anyone making this charge is crazy. Then again?Speaking about crazy …..tough to beat some of the nutcases who do not know what socialism is and charge Obama of that ,who do not know the horrors of Hitler and say Obama is Hitler …you are right-THE TEA PARTY ARE A BUNCH OF IGNORANT LUNATICS WHO SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY . Gee,you are smart , Leon.

  5. The Republican party, that grand coalition of bigots, southern white dunces, flat-world believing anti-intellectuals, statists, and crony-corporatists, has been confirmed as issuing no less than 935 demonstrable falsehoods about the Iraq war. According to the Centre for Public Integrity, they determined that the statements “were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanised public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretences.”

    When the Republicans let the country be attacked by terrorists, start then loose two foreign wars, allow two recessions, produce zero jobs over 8 years, destroy a decade's worth of capital, and then give the banks a get out of jail card because Hank Paulson was one of them, its the dirty unserious liberals who are to blame.

    Only the feckless MSM and the right wing zombies give these retards any credence. Their argument against Obama is that he's a Muslim, a foreigner, a communist, a fascist, a socialist, a Marxist revolutionary, the son-of-Hitler, the son-of-Castro, the anti-Christ….

    • The argument against Obama is that he is an arrogant dumb luck statist incompetent supported by risible ideologues.

      • And I thought the "lunatic fringe" was the decoration on a straitjacket — silly me.

    • Bill Buzenberg is the Center's fourth executive director. As vice president of news and information at National Public Radio from 1990 to 1997, he was responsible for launching Talk of the Nation, as well as the expansion of All Things Considered and the extension of NPR's newscasts services to 24 hours a day.

      NPR…hardly non-partisan. That's all I need toknow that your post is BS.

      • On the Bush White House web page for nearly three years the following could be found:

        Hussein's possession of 26,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 1,000,000 pounds of sarin gas, mustard gas, and VX nerve gas, along with 30,000 munitions to deliver these agents…uranium from Niger to be used in nuclear bombs,..al Qaeda terrorists closely associated with Hussein

        When you find those missing WMD's in Syria, there McCON let the rest of us in the Alternative Universe know so we can all do a cakewalk together.

    • "The Republican party, that grand coalition of bigots, southern white dunces, flat-world believing anti-intellectuals,"

      Any ounce of credibility, common decency, or notion of intelligence you might would have had is lost…..

      As for the rest of your post…its so full of holes that swiss cheese is jealous!

      • I'm jealous of you sweetie-pie!

        It must be wonderful living in a Manichean world divided by left and right, good and evil, and white and black.

        Of course, I know you're unable to actually address any of the above statements, because that would challenge that your leaders are frauds, your movement is anything other than greed masquerading as morality, and the majority of you and your ilk are the ones holding humanity back as you drag your knuckles through the temples of unregulated capitalism.

    • Well you are right about one thing. It quesonably, took 935 well crafted lies to get the dems to go to war with Bush but please remember it took only ONE lie, the gulf of tonkin lie, from LBJ to send 500,000 Amercan soldiers to Viet Nam. And that lie cost more than 55,000 American deaths and 300,000 wonded. I guess it is true. Democrats are much better liers than Repbubs. I give up, you win the argument.

    • ah, namecalling, the last resort of people who can't argue cogently. You, sir, exhibit bigoted behavior (look it up, then reread your own post) who can only engage in ad hominem attacks. Shame on you.

      • Shame on me? Why because I said the obvious?

        Oh… like Republican Con. Joe Wilson from S. Carolina? Yeah.. a good ole' boy from the South. Right!

        Well your Average Joe happens to be a member of a right wing group called 'Sons of Confederate Veterans,' a group according to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) that is organized by radical neo-Confederates who favor secession and defend slavery as a benign institution. The group's leader, another self-appointed man of the cloth, one Rev. Eric Dean has attacked "racial interbreeding" as ungodly and described slavery as biblically sanctioned.

        How about former Republican Senator George Allen who used the racially tinged slur Macaca to insult another "colored" fellow with dubious American citizenship during the 2006 elections? No racism there!

        How about Republican David Duke, a former grand-wizard of the KKK who received 40% of the vote while running for governor of LA?

        Of course there is the King of all loud-mouth, self-righteous, bigoted, and racist media Rush "pass me my Oxycontin" Limbaugh, who said, "I mean, let's face it, we didn't have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I'm not saying we should bring it back; I'm just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark."

        Hypocrisy isn't a dance buddy.

    • "The Republican party…has been confirmed as issuing no less than 935 demonstrable falsehoods about the Iraq war."

      It's called politics. I wish somebody would post a count of the democrats "demonstrable falsehoods".

      • You're welcome to do the research. What are you, some sort of lazy liberal?

        • Up till Jan 2000, it was the Dems and the UN claiming Saddam had oodles of chemical weapons. Bushie got his numbers from Billy Clinton. Love the way you partisan types ca flip flop so fast without getting whiplash.

        • You do realize that was rhetorical right?

  6. If Palin Republican means not supporting Canadian-style taxation and governmental control then sign me up. Not every one in the world wants to watch the Budget Speech to see how much of their own money they are allowed to keep.

    • Ah, sorry Amor, that puts you in the "lunatic right" category. :/

      • Nope, the expatriate category.

    • Huh? What country in the world doesn't have any taxes whatsoever? I hope you find a good life there — that's the only one where you won't have to look at the Budget Speech to see how much of your own money you are allowed to keep.

  7. I think Palin is Parisella's bogeyman. He always seems a bit unhinged when he writes anything about Palin. Riddle me this: how can Palin be part of the fringe while, at the same time, her ideas are more popular than Obama's?

    Dems are in control of Presidency and both Houses in Congress but somehow this is all the fault of a few mean fringe Repubs? Maybe the Dems should realize they are in power, not campaigning, and present some plans for health care reform instead of running around like headless chickens. Dems are still talking nonsense on stilts about how they are going to expand coverage, improve health care and reduce costs all at same time and electorate is rightly skeptical.

    "Ever since Obama's inauguration, the Republicans have struggled to gain any traction as a viable alternative."

    "Is it too late for the Republicans?"

    "The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 44% would vote for their district's Republican congressional candidate while 37% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent. Support for both parties rose one point over the past week, giving Republicans their highest level of support of the past several years. Support for Democrats last week reached its lowest point during that same time period. This summer, support for Republican candidates ranged from 41% to 43%, support for Democrats ranged from 36% to 39%." Rasmussen September 8 '09

    • Great comments. I agree, it's amazing how the left manages to blame republicans for everything when the dems have had control of congress for 3 years and the presidency for 1. They control the senate, the house and now the presidency. But somehow Palin is screwing everything up.

      • easy to blame the right . They scewed up the economy , the war , and Bin Laden is still making tapes . Palin is the typical hypocrite . Read Levi Johnston in Vanity Fair. She parades her looks but is a ditz. !!!Dumber than dumb. The Right was in power for 12 years and DID NOTHING for health care reform and allowed greed and dregulation to run the economy . All the Republicans can do is call Obama names. Hard to blieve a black man could be so smart and happens to be president . That is the underlying issue.It makes scf mad .

        • It makes scf mad
          To be honest, you're making me laugh.

          • Laughing is often a sign of being in denial ,scf.Certainly cannot laugh at someone so bright . So I assume you are referring to yourself . So sad !

    • "Maybe the Dems should realize they are in power, not campaigning, and present some plans for health care reform…"

      You mean like the draft bills that are available for everybody to read? The ones they've been (wasting their time) negotiating with the Republicans all summer?

      If Dems seem like they're campaigning, it's because they're busy playing whack-a-mole against the latest, craziest, easily-disproven lie about the contents of those draft bills.

      • Except for the fact that the democrats don't need the republicans to pass their bills. Excep for the fact that republicans were shut out fom partcipation in *writing* this bill. They are available to read, and when you do, you will see the provisions existing in the bill that designate government agencies that will be responsible for allocating resources. People keep digressing o cost, which is only a secondary issue to the reality of scarce resources. Emmanuel tells us how to "ethically" go about the central abrbitrary allocation process. They have the ultimate authority to decide who gets access to care, and who doesn't. Call them what you like, they're in the bill.

    • Her ideas are more popular? How do you figure? I mean, I guess to make that argument, first you'd have to try and articulate what "Palin's ideas" would be. Does she have a coherent alternative to Obama's health care reform proposal? I'm not sure you can advance a credible alternative when you don't understand the present state of things, nor the proposed changes, as Palin has amply and repeatedly demonstrated that she does not.

      I think Parisella's point was that the debate has shifted from being between the Democrats and Republicans, to being an intraparty struggle inside the Democratic party. They have rendered themselves irrelevant through knee jerk opposition to everything. The sole Republican who matters in the health care debate is Sen. Snowe who – what a shocker – is moderate and open to dialogue.

      • Uh, check her news headlines. Repeatedly, she has championed conservative principled alternatives to the "government" solution. Snowe hardly can be considered conservative, nor can Specter (who gave up the act) or Collins, who repeatedly go *against* conservative principles on issues of critical importance, like the stimulus and cap and trade.

        • “principled alternatives “?ARE YOU KIDDING ,Patrick?The woman has no principles . Just a lot of loving herself. She is afraid to do interviews. Cannot defend an idea. Oh ,I forgot .She reads all newspapers. Really pathethic person , this Palin .

        • Alright, I"ll bite – what alternatives? How would she fix the health care crisis in America? What are her proposed solutions? And I mean, you know, concrete proposals not typical right-wing hot air.

          Do you think Sarah Palin could explain how health care works currently in America? Could she explain, for example, what a public option would entail, exactly. A more basic question: does Sarah Palin know how government functions? I mean, at a very basic, like, high school civics level? Her media appearances to date suggest that she does not.

          BTW – Snowe can hardly be considered conservative, really? If you don't think there's room for people like her in the Republican party, what hope does the party have of growing outside of its sole remaining stronghold of the Confederate South?

  8. Any time one writes off one party in a two party system you know they're barking up the wrong tree.

    A few points: more americans identify themselves as "conservatives" now than at any time in the last 15 years.

    The generic congressional ballot has the R's and D's almost even after the dems had a huge lead just a year ago.

    Most polling experts expect the R's to make significant gains, with many now suggesting they may retake the House in the 2010 mid-terms.

    • A point lost on the author of the piece may be that on large issues (healthcare and cap and trade) Republicans might want as much daylight between them and Democrats as possible. Politically, it makes sense to let the Dems own these turkeys, just like the Stimulus.

      2010 will not be a year well rembered by the Left. Backlash and hard.

      • "Backlash and hard."

        Or not.

    • If by "polling experts" you mean "right wing nutbags", "significant gains" you mean "insignificant gains" and "retake the House" you mean "remain as hopelessly in the minority as they have been in living memory", then yes.

  9. Shhh. You are screwing up the narrative.

  10. Why do i like Palin ? Very simple . She is the reincarnation of Ronald Reagan . And my hope is for her to become president in 2012 !!

  11. palin had the gumption and energy to read the entire bill, the intellect to decipher it, and the backbone to brace obama with this. the facts that the dems. removed the offending section and dr. mende, sorry bout that, emmanuel wrote his excuse that he really doesn't believe any more, what he wrote when he wrote it. is prove enough to me that palin was right on target.
    dennisintn

    • His explanation that he doesn't believe what he wrote anymore is hardly convincing when he states that "I used to think rationing would be necessary, but now I see that all we need to do is cut unnecessary costs, and then rationing wouldn't be necessary except in a few cases." Who buys that? Who is fooled into reading that as anything different tan what he wrote before?

  12. As someone who lived in the USA for many years I am often amazed at the knee-jerk reaction of many Canadians, who give the impression that they believe all Republicans are evil. Although Sarah Palin has many vocal supporters, she does not repesent the mainstream of the Republican Party.

    Both major parties in the USA are capable of supporting strange policies. For example, it is the Obama Administration that has just introduced rules that bar Air Canada from ferrying Canadian NHL teams between US cities, thus throwing into chaos the upcoming NHL schedule.

  13. As someone who lived in the USA for many years I am often amazed at the knee-jerk reaction of many Canadians, who give the impression that they believe all Republicans are evil. Although Sarah Palin has many vocal supporters, she does not represent the mainstream of the Republican Party.

    Both major parties in the USA are capable of supporting strange policies. For example, it is the Obama Administration that has just introduced rules that bar Air Canada from ferrying Canadian NHL teams between US cities, thus throwing into chaos the upcoming NHL schedule.

    • Please do not include me in your assessment. Sarah Palin has more class and gumption than you entire democratic party.

      • It's quaint that you actually believe this…

    • Great piece, though I don't know about that "peasant factor" he identifies. AFAIK the real peasants of yore were never all that keen on tithing and funding the landlord and had to be kept in line with the mace and the noose. I think it's just status anxiety on the part of poor/uneducated whites (as a social not economic class), who want someone to be poorer and more miserable than they are so they can keep identifying with the "middle class."

      • Or maybe we have a more pliant peasantry these days. If only Wat
        Tyler had the intertubes.

  14. false charges of death panels

    As long as you believe this is "false," as opposed to "extrapolating from the known behaviour of bureaucracies and public servants in a situation where they might make life-or-death treatment decisions," you will lose the health care debate. Period. Full stop.

    Obama's plans are bogged down because he's gone to the well too many times on the strength of his personal charisma; his policy promises are already being treated with the same credibility as those of a lame-duck seventh-year administration. The meme spread because it was emblematic of everything conservatives consider wrong with a pervasive expansion of publicly funded care, given that; lack of an explicit "death panel" provision in any bill currently before Congress is irrelevant.

    And yet, Palin leads many polls for the 2012 Republican nomination and will draw huge crowds once she hits the speech circuit this fall

    Funny how so many people refuse to accept the media common wisdom, and won't just acknowledge that that horrible woman is so stupid and evil, isn't it? Must be awfully frustrating.

  15. false charges of death panels

    As long as you believe this is "false," as opposed to "extrapolating from the known behaviour of bureaucracies and public servants in a situation where they might make life-or-death treatment decisions," you will lose the health care debate. Period. Full stop.

    Obama's plans are bogged down because he's gone to the well too many times on the strength of his personal charisma; his policy promises are already being treated with the same credibility as those of a lame-duck seventh-year administration. The meme spread because it was emblematic of everything conservatives consider wrong with a pervasive expansion of publicly funded care, given that; lack of an explicit "death panel" provision in any bill currently before Congress is irrelevant.

    And yet, Palin leads many polls for the 2012 Republican nomination and will draw huge crowds once she hits the speech circuit this fall

    Funny how so many people refuse to accept the media common wisdom, and won't just acknowledge that that horrible woman is so stupid and evil, isn't it? Must be awfully frustrating for you and your colleagues in the anti-Palin brigades.

  16. false charges of death panels

    As long as you believe this is "false," as opposed to "extrapolating from the known behaviour of bureaucracies and public servants in a situation where they might make life-or-death treatment decisions," you will lose the health care debate. Period. Full stop.

    Obama's plans are bogged down because he's gone to the well too many times on the strength of his personal charisma; his policy promises are already being treated with the same credibility as those of a lame-duck seventh-year administration. The meme spread because it was emblematic of everything conservatives consider wrong with a pervasive expansion of publicly funded care, given that; lack of an explicit "death panel" provision in any bill currently before Congress is irrelevant.

    And yet, Palin leads many polls for the 2012 Republican nomination and will draw huge crowds once she hits the speech circuit this fall

    Funny how so many people refuse to accept the media common wisdom, and won't just acknowledge that that horrible woman is so stupid and evil, isn't it? Must be awfully frustrating for you.

    • "extrapolating from the known behaviour of bureaucracies and public servants in a situation where they might make life-or-death treatment decisions,"

      Any evidence to support this, or does the tingle in your left knee let you know you are right?

      • You've made it this far in your life without ever having to deal with a large institutional bureaucracy that gave you the brush-off and refused to provide you with an adequate level of service, explain the reasoning behind an apparently bizarre or unfair outcome, or be held accountable for their failures? Kudos to you, sir.

      • You've made it this far in your life without ever having to deal with a large institutional bureaucracy that gave you the brush-off and refused to provide you with an adequate level of service, explain the reasoning behind an apparently bizarre or unfair outcome, or be held accountable for their failures? Kudos to you, sir; I envy your luck.

        • A simple "no" would have sufficed.

        • Not me…unfortunately, I've had to deal with many insurance companies.

          • I've dealt with insurance companies too. Painful and frustrating.

            I've also dealt extensively with Canada's health care system for more than 30 years. I have yet to meet a "bureaucrat" who was anything less than professional, efficient, and totally responsive to what the doctors and I wanted.

        • You're all wet, but then you are a hippopotamus, so it's normal.

    • Even if we assume that your unsupported claim of death panels is true, who would you rather have sitting on such a panel? A collection of medical experts and elected representatives whose continued employment relies on not pissing off too many people, or a single insurance adjuster whose bonus relies upon not spending too much money?

      • The insurance adjuster. If you don't like his decision, you can always pay out of pocket.

        If you can't afford that, then you're no worse off anyway. In a scenario where the experts and political hacks are the final arbiter of what care you're allowed to receive, that's not necessarily true.

        • Ah, so you simply don't know what you're talking about. Okay.

          Please tell me how paying out of your pocket is any less of an option with a public panel deciding than a profit-motivated panel?

          And second, how are you more worse off if a public panel denies you coverage than if a private company denies you coverage? Does the public panel send an anthrax infected letter or something? Because I certainly didn't see that anywhere in the legislation.

          • Oh great, now avr is going to start insisting that anthrax letters are totally a reasonable extrapolation of the proposed letters.

            Also: booga booga! Bureaucrats!

          • Is this a trick question? Because it seems obvious.

            -If a public panel denies you, you have no recourse, there is no alternative
            -You are forced to pay into a public panel, regardless of whether you want to or not

          • Is this a trick question? Because it seems obvious.

            -An insurance adjustor is obviously interested denying you coverage – afterall, that's how he gets a bonus
            -A bunch of civil servants are likely to be more compassionate. Afterall, they didn't become insurance adjustors.

          • meant to say "opposite", not "obvious"

          • more compassionate? are you kidding me? It's just the obvious, at least they have to win your business. Anyone with any experience of government agencies knows they don't care whether you are there or not.

          • As opposed to the wide range of alternatives you have when a private insurer denies you? How are any more of your options denied?

            For your second reason, that has nothing to do with "death panels" or whether you receive proper care, which is what this was about. Although I'll grant it's a nice red herring.

          • Why isn't there an alternative? None of the policies proposed in the United States suggested either that
            1) Private insurance would not be available to those who prefer it
            2) You would not be able to pay out of pocket if the plan did not provide you with the coverage that you desire.

            I haven't seen any indication that the proposed bills are trying to emulate the Canadian system where the government has the exclusive monopoly on health coverage. I don't think such a thing would be feasible in that country, and may well not be constitutional.

          • Oh great, now avr is going to start insisting that anthrax letters are totally a reasonable extrapolation of the proposed legislation.

            Also: booga booga! Bureaucrats!

        • He is angry, very angry, because once upon a time somebody drained his pond and left him temporarily high and dry. What he doesn't realize is the bureaucrat in charge of the drain plug was an employee of a private company that used to be under government control until some Reaganite privatized the operation.

      • "Even if we assume that your unsupported claim of death panels is true…"

        Why should anyone have to assume that? It's up to avr to provide evidence for it.

        • If I'd waited for avr to provide evidence, we both know I'd never have had the chance to make my point that it's a non-issue in any event.

    • I get why you don't think Palin has been given a fair shake.

      But please articulate for me: what do you like about this women? Why do you think she is qualified to run the United States of America? Would should be your number one pick? Even in your top 10?

    • Palin engaged in one of the worst sort of conduct in our "progressive" age of fine sensibilities, correct speak, and moral equavalencies:

      she spoke bluntly.

      Rationing is part of every public system. It was also spoken of by Rham Emmanual's brother, and Obama advisor, and even Obama himself (give "grandma the painkiller instead"). Combine that with the provision which mandates doctors to discuss end of life "alternatives" with the elderly, and you've got technocrats making health care decisions.

      Suggesting rationing certain treatments may mean premature death for those already close to death is simply logical.

      Unless one's bought wholecloth into Obama's healthspeak utopia, where if we just left government run it, we can have it all: more care, less cost, higher quality, no tradeoffs!

        • the US can't afford health care , so let's keep the status quo until the next Republican president .

      • The insurance adjuster has his bottom line- save the company money and get bonuses for himself- the civil servant, ( not necessarily either civil or your servant!) has his bottom line. There is only so much money available, demand will exceed supply ( still longer wait times for MRI's just annnounced in BC) there will be rationing, and his job will be to execute ( so to speak!) this mandate. One can always sue the insurance company- usually, appealing a bureaucrats ruling is not a viable option. There are horror stories a plenty in countries like Canada and Great Britain who have single payer health care systems. We have to find a way to give everyone insurance coverage without going down that path.

    • I fail to see anything stupid or horrible about this woman, maybe I just don't have your wisdom, it would be good to see your list of accomplishments and compare so I will be able to see what you mean,( sitting on your large celuouse cushion in front of your puter and spewing poision dont count,) thank you

    • I 2nd Palin in 2012. Obama is a communist and a disaster

      • I hear his real name is Vladymir…..

      • I hear his real name is Vladimir…..

        • While I understand the desire to support Alcan during these tough economic times, I do wish you'd stop egging them on.

  17. You make sense . The Republicans condone hate mongering with some exceptions like Snowe . John McCain-speak up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. What are we five? It's easy to call someone dumb, and it's easy to call someone a hypocrite– it doesn't make it relevant or accurate. Did "someone so bright" as yourself pick up on the big time incongruities and inconsistencies in Levi's stories?

  19. Palin's my candidate for 2012 and I'm not even a Republican, so now you can write an article about us Palin independents………..

  20. Have you ever actually looked at Sarah Palin's record as governor of Alaska and discovered why she enjoyed an approval rating well over 80%?

    • Because she didn't do anything? And only worked for half of one term? Real accomplishments, those.

      • If the mainstream media doesn't report it, it doesn't exist? Sarah Palin managed to defeat oil company interests not once but twice, not only getting the gas pipeline moving but also restructuring the fees that the oil companies pay Alaska for the oil. Here is a good example of how the mainstream media distorted her record during the election:

        http://www.adn.com/opinion/view/story/574868.html

    • Because she did the socialist thing and demanded more oil company profit be distributed to the people?

      • That's one way to spin it, but, yes. And you'd think that would be popular with her opponents, but they just can't seem to say anything nice about Sarah Palin.

  21. Not when she left . Check it out .

    • Of course her popularity was lower when she left, but why was it ever over 80% if she's nothing but a nasty partisan and idiot who doesn't know how to get anything done?

  22. We can only thank Jesus that people like you are few and far between.

    • You don't know Jesus so stop using His name as a crutch. You do however appear to be a Huge believer in Barack Obama of which I am certainly not. So, I simply say to you and yours to do your best to once again piece together another 50+% majority in 2012. Me and mine are going to make sure that never happens again.

      • "make sure" sounds a little ominous.

        And thanking Jesus is not a crutch, it's being thankful. That people like you aren't the majority. Because if you were, Jesus help us all.

        • Onimous is an interesting way to put it. After 8 yrs of Bush we were looking for change and got fooled—-never again. And again I say calling on Jesus for political purposes is a crutch, why should He help you, Barack isn't and you voted for him.

  23. The President's support is crashing because we no longer trust him. Mr. Wilson summed up the big reason in two three letter words "You Lie". Sarah Palin is refreshing and it is OK with me that you dimwits continue to underestimate her.

    • Hard to underestimate. She is what we see. She exploits people`s fears . The interviews she gave is as strong as she is . Believe what you want but lying is Bush and Cheney about the Iraq . Obama is telling the truth but you dimwits want believe birthers , the crap about socialism and hitler .

      • Obama is a control freak just like hitler was.

        • …calm…. objective…… linear….. you rock

  24. No, they don'r care about facts, Section 1233 of HR 3200, puts in place the IMAC, which along with the FCCER in the Stimulus Bill, and the 600 billion dollar medicaid cut, does constitute the 'death panels'.
    Thus bringing about the curtailment of medical services that you are experiencing now, not for 30 million, but 300 million

  25. As a Canadian and a former liberal, I can say Palin has opened my eyes. Since the elections in your country, I started to look further into our conservative party and realized that the only reason I remained a liberal was because my parents, immigrants, insisted it on it. My values do not mesh with liberals and never have. Suffice it to say, my mother is not impressed with my new found outlook.

    Your Obama is a lower form of life..he has no values, integrity and he is nothing more than a pompeous self righteous jerk who could care less about his country but cares more for his ego.

    I commend, Palin, Rush, Glen, and Joe Wilson to speak on behalf of those Americans who don't have a voice thanks to the liberal stiflers. They are true American heros.

    God Bless your country!

    • Phony as a three-dollar bill.

      How's the weather in Alabama?

      • You must referring to your president?

    • ''Your Obama is a lower form of life..he has no values, integrity and he is nothing more than a pompeous self righteous jerk who could care less about his country but cares more for his ego.''

      Well… Should the President forgets about universal healthcare? I always thought that helping people in need was a good value… Oh! He's a Harvard School graduate, should he have stayed in the private sector and make more than a million a year? Because, I mean, he decided to devote himself to the people of his community, another value. I think.

      Oh, and about his ''ego''… Can you actually give me an example of that? I'm trying hard to find one. I can't… Help me, please.

      For the record, even though I disagree with her ideas, I don't think Gov. Sarah Palin is a ''self righteous jerk''.

      • People should help themselves and if they can't for VALID reasons then I am all for helping others. But some milk the system. Sarah Palin has more class then your low life president obama.

        • Don't forget to wipe

    • I'd rather be Hopeless….

    • I'd rather we were Hopeless….

      • You are Hopeless..you have a loser running your country..I guess you are okay with that. Hope you don't get old and then Mr. President and his cronies decide whether you live or die. Dumbass!

        • So well spoken.
          So assertive.
          So witty.
          When a person gets their putdowns from Red Foreman, you know they're the real deal.

          One thing though. In the interest of public hygiene, I suggest you wipe after your posts.

          • you are a loser and it is clear why you support a loser like your president obama.

  26. John Parisella:

    Stupid much? A lot? We thought so. Sarah Palin's characterization, "death panel" was MORE legitimate than your entire ankle bitting aricle. You, like virtually ALL other hack "jounalist" can only get your "material" read only by showcasing as super-star like Palin.

    The MANDATORY requirement for TERMINALLY-ILL under the proposal included the option for the advisor to suggest that terminating yourself ,by NOT fighting for life, might be the better option if you are a great financila burden, etc.

    Consider the the LATE Kennedy opted for just the opposite in his personal life, while supporting Oblahblah's DEATH PANEL proposal for everyone else…including YOU!

    • Great use of CAPITAL LETTERS.

      Poor and useless comment.

    • Your post illustrates the point of the article, exactly. The GOP has been taken over by ignorant, grouchy, pot-bellied old white guys with guns. You see the country slipping out of your control and you understandably don't like it. But you'll just have to suck it up, otherwise if you try anything stupid at those rallies Obama has the power to send the SEALS in to burn your @$$ into the clay.

  27. If it wasn't for Fox News, International News, and the internet the American public would all be in the dark. It just astounds me with the ACORN tapes, VanJones, and the Washington TEAparty how much front page material the "left"steam (not mainstream by any means) chooses too simply ignore. I didn't trust the leftstream media before all of this, but not it is evident that they are purposefully deceiving Americans. This article is no exception.

    The leftstream, elite media is completely out of tough with Americans and our legitimate concerns with Obama policies. We will not sit down and shut up, we are not happy with either party, we want to life peaceful lives without oppression from the elite who have hijack our government to make unconstitutional laws, and tax us to death. We feel threatened by both parties in the government as well as the school system, financial system, and the leftstream media. We are no longer the silent majority, we are no longer the sleeping giant.

    • The Past Tense Media absolutely works overtime to marginlize….We do not need anyone
      but Sarah, Glenn and a few others….Right is right. Whoever would be on the side of ACORN is purely corrupt and evil….McLame took a tidy sum during amnesty….figure it out

  28. what a crock of…..did you call our our sitting VP when he told Couric that FDR went on TV to explain his policies?

    ENOUGH of the media double standard….you have finally managed to energize the overwehlming majority of the country with your hypocrisy and lies….

  29. Obama didn't call them 'death panels' but he did give them a name….outcome is the same though.

  30. "…in the American polity.."

    I quit reading at about that point. Listen up, mutt. Down here in the Lower 48 we don't describe our system with the girlie-word "polity". It sounds too much like "polite." And we're not.

    We're way too busy working to fix problems here on planet Earth that you folks up there in Bacon Land have not yet even noticed.

    • or too busy creating problems here on planet Earth……

  31. the only resaon your article caugth my eyes was because palin's name was in the headline. you have serius problems when people wouldn't read your articles without her in the headlines

    • Well, don't read Mr. Parisella's Blog. No need to be impolite to him.

  32. "but the rhetoric emerging from its spokespersons leaves the impression that the Republican party is now just a party of protest"

    Something like Adams, Madison, Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton. You men citizens like that?

  33. John you obviously don't understand IMAC or any of the other panels that HR3200 sets up.If you believe that gov't run HC would not ration care, especially as Dr Zeke Emanuel espouses, then come here and let me introduce you to your HC team but don't call them a death panel when they say you are to old for care.

  34. I think the leadership of the GOP has seemed oblivious is because the GOP is quickly becoming irrelevant. It seems from the tone of your tome, that you are in support of the old tired RINO stances that have brought us to this place of irrelevance. The leadership of the Republican party is failing to stand for principles and values that have previously made us great. So, let me just tell you, independents and conservatives are abandoning the GOP ship like rats on a sinking ship because they have failed us. If you notice that Sarah Palin is THE only Republican who can count on large crowds wherever she goes. So, my tip to you is to pay attention to her convictions. Until a true conservative comes to the front, the GOP will remain irrelevant.

  35. Your article here is exactly the problem. No I don’t want a bipartisan cap and trade, health care, credit card, or wall street bill.
    I want less govt not more. I want less spending not more.
    Let’s face it the left lives to define the debate by using play on words.
    if the counter argument is not against the exact words but the intent then you must be a bigot and racist or just plain stupid.
    Palin is a threat to republicans and to the left.
    While she has her problems she is also a breath of fresh air in a political world of double speak.

  36. Has the author of this article bothered to read the REST of Palin's posts regarding health care reform? If so, he would see that Palin has several well thought out and well argued alternative health care initiatives. In fact she was well ahead of Obama (who everyone praises as "reaching out" on this issue) in her piece on tort reform. She argued loudly about this issue, and now the President is acting on it (at least via lip service). And in a later article, she dared to discuss real Medicare reform (i.e. voucher system) that goes to the heart of the issue of fixing a broken system. And yet, this author and so many others will ONLY give her "credit" for the Death Panels statement, and paint her as the person who only says "no". You are wrong, and you are misleading (to put it nicely).

  37. What people like about Palin is her authenticity. She's a pro-life mom who's lived her principles by refusing to abort a handicapped child, and she radiates the cheerful good-will of a happy warrior. The far Left hates her for these reasons. She shows up their misanthropy like no other.

    There is another reason for the tremendous support she garners: many were disgusted with the venom directed at her during and after the campaign. The media were suggesting rape/incest concerning the conception of her handicapped son, does no one remember that?

    Parisella's point is a good one: currently the Republicans are the party of protest, as the Democrats were in 2003. A new leader will emerge and the party's platform will coalesce behind him or her. I don't think this leader will be Palin, but she will play a crucial role with her ability to inspire conservatives.

  38. Hmmm…let's see if the "progressives"/Marxists/Dems….can string 2 sentences together, with some facts, before resorting to insultsand name calling ….hmm…..crickets.
    Anyway I have to say how much I am enjoying watching the "progressives"/Marxists/Dems COMPLETELY falling apart…the louder you screamm the more often you yell racists the more you insult ….the louder we laugh!!!

  39. What people like about Palin is her authenticity. She's a pro-life mom who's lived her principles by refusing to abort a handicapped child, and she radiates the cheerful good-will of a happy warrior. The far Left hates her for these reasons. She shows up their misanthropy like no other.

    There is another reason for the tremendous support she garners: many were disgusted with the venom directed at her during and after the campaign. The media were suggesting rape/incest concerning the conception of her handicapped son, does no one remember that?

    Parisella's point is a good one: currently the Republicans are the party of protest, as the Democrats were in 2003. A new leader will emerge and the party's platform will coalesce behind him or her. I don't think this leader will be Palin, but she will play a crucial role with her ability to inspire conservatives.

    I should add: Parisella's addenda about the "false" death panels and the lunacy of Limbaugh and Beck are the trademark Parisella smears/falsehoods. Uninformed and petty, they serve to verify his authorship of the piece.

    • ''Uninformed and petty, they serve to verify his authorship of the piece.''

      Funny, I do the same with your comments. :)

  40. Hmmmmm….I found Justice Sotomayor's statement, on several occasions, that a wise Latina would have better judgment than a white man to be very controversial, and offensive as well. Had a white male candidate said he could make better judgments than a Latina, I suspect the outcome would have been very different indeed.

    With regards to the protests taking place everywhere, I think the point being missed by everyone is that they have taken place in the complete absence of any particular leadership. We do not NEED anyone to lead us in protest of all this fiscal irresponsibility.
    We were outraged when President Bush passed the first stimulus and bail out plans; President Obama's quadrupling of the national debt in 7 months has finally driven us to the streets.
    Most Independents voted for Obama because they were tired of Bush. Republicans held their noses and voted for McCain because they could see Obama's Socialist leanings.
    Many Independents now have buyer's remorse; many Republicans are starting to realize it was good that President Obama was elected, since we now have an opportunity to beat back Socialism for another generation, instead of letting it creep incrementally in.

    • ''She gets what has made this country the greatest on the planet''

      Assuming that she does. The President has to preserve that. He has to make it happen. He has to create new alliances in order to improve the Country. He needs to be cultivated, to be able to argue, to read the newspapers.

      Sarah Palin is a great woman, she connects with ''her'' people. She would be a wonderful spokesperson. She does not have what it takes to become President of the United States.

  41. The completely incompetent media also let our sitting president off the hook with his "Heinz 57" state remark. C'mon, my 5 and 6 year old kids know how many states there are. Yet Sarah Palin's inability to elaborate on SCOTUS decisions was a deal breaker. Don't remember Obambi answering any questions like that from the 3 dunces (Couric, Gibson, & Williams). I support Sarah Palin and would happily vote for her. She may not have read Alinsky and Marx but she gets what our founders wrote about in the constitution. She gets what has made this country the greatest on the planet and its not our great entitlements. Government and freedom have always been reciprocals of each other. When one grows the other invariably shrinks, Sarah Palin gets it. Do you?

  42. The completely incompetent media also let our sitting president off the hook with his "Heinz 57" state remark. C'mon, my 5 and 6 year old kids know how many states there are. Yet Sarah Palin's inability to elaborate on SCOTUS decisions was a deal breaker. Don't remember Obambi answering any questions like that from the 3 dunces (Couric, Gibson, & Williams). I support Sarah Palin and would happily vote for her. She may not have read Alinsky and Marx but she gets what our founders wrote about in the constitution. She gets what has made this country the greatest on the planet and its not our great entitlements. Government and freedom have always been reciprocals of each other. When one grows the other invariably shrinks, Sarah Palin gets it. Do you?

  43. the leadership of both parties are in for some big surprises, ppl are beginning to wake up and see they are being gamed.

    heads are going to roll, politically speaking it's going to be a massacre, mostly the GOP will be taken by storm. The up coming primaries are going to be politcal bloodbaths as TEA party folk force the GOP to accept the canidates of their choice. but the Dems won't be immune either, they will have to jettison the fringe marxists, they will be political liablities.
    lot's of change coming, but it won't be the change that the Elites want.

  44. What nonsense! If the attempt to socialize health care is defeated, Palin can take the largest part of the credit.

    Her "death panels" comment framed the issue perfectly and quite simply blew up the left's attempt to rush legislation to passage via bullying and obfuscation.

  45. Enter text right here!Sarah's convictions are exactly what earns her my support, my admiration and my vote if she runs in 2012. I am a Conservative and proud of it.!

  46. Sarah Palin was right. The senate bill removed the death panels the next day after her twitter. Good for her!

  47. "and can lay claim to the one president that transcended partisan politics–Abraham Lincoln.
    '
    Yeah, except for that minor little skirmish known as the Civil War and jailing opposition that disagreed with him. As I understand it, he had to behave in a very partisan manner to keep the union together and abolish slavery (the founding principle of the Republican party)

    CC

    • President Lincoln also suspended writs of habeas corpus…and also, Lincoln did NOT free ALL the slaves, only those in the rebel territories. The slaves in the border states were NOT covered by the Emancipation Proclamation. President Lincoln was very partisan and political. A great man, but certainly NOT one who transcended partisan politics.

  48. Ted Kennedy, when Robert Bork was announced as a Supreme Court pick, went to the airways and described "Robert Bork's America," complete with back-alley abortions, segregrated lunch counters, and worse. It was clearly hyperbolic rhetoric and possibly downright false, but guess what … he got rid of Bork.

    Palin's "death panel" metaphor is also hyperbole … but it is not just that. It is rooted in truth. Just today Newsweek has an article out saying, Yeah, well we really do need a panel of experts to determine triage in health care. That's right out of Obama's playbook.

    Those who decry Palin's line should shut up and make good arguments. Palin got the job done. I'm just anxious for her to come out with her next show-stopper.

    • ''Those who decry Palin's line should shut up and make good arguments''

      No one should ever ''shut up''. It is what we call ''Democracy'', the acceptance of one's other point of view.

      Besides that, I believe everybody should have the right to a doctor. Should I shut up?

  49. Dear John,

    Grow up.

    Sincerley,

    A Concerned Canadian Citizen

    • LOL
      Very ''mature'' comment! :D
      Thanks for the laughs!

  50. ***
    Sarah Palin is the only real conservative candidate for POTUS in 2012–I don't see the strong personal values and real accomplishments–as Governor of Alaska–in any other major candidate that can win. And I like John Bolton for VP. A real AMERICA FIRST ticket.
    ***
    Rocketman
    ***

  51. ….so this article is telling people to not worry about Palin & that she is inconsequential & fringe? hmmm….

    so why even write an article if Palin isnt a threat?

    why so serious?

    it seems like all the people who hate, yes hate, Palin, have this need, this mentally imbalanced need, to write scores of articles to dogmatically pronounce her political death and/or political impotence.

    if she is politically dead, why show this much importance to her ad nausem?

    is it because a majority of American agree with her on the healthcare fiasco, among other topics? maybe.

    again if she is so inconsequential, why are so may people agreeing with her?

    the actions of these anti-Palin pro-abortion liberal, moderate & supposed conservative writers is very telling and very very strange.

  52. She is the one they all Rep, and Dems fear and hate her! But damn do we love her!!!!! Palin 2012

  53. This never ending whine about bipartisanship sickens me. Every time we are "bipartisan" it's our principles that are squashed, shoved aside and trampled. All in the name of having some spineless republican hold hands with some grinning Democrat.

  54. Another Obama apologist agency. All opponents are exploiting fear & racism, I'm sure. You morons are all so predictable.

  55. This is one of the most irrelevant articles I'v e ever read because I cannot find too much in it that is true.

    • Look closer ;)

  56. "silly outburst", that sounds like a "girly" way of describing Joe Wilson's shout-out. Count me as one lunatic standing with Limbaugh and Beck, proud to. For too long the left have enjoyed a double standard of treatment in the media. The old republicans, you may fit right in, have always been cowardly and submissive to the dems, but no more! We will clean our own house without any help from you. The wacko left are weighing themselves down and doing a fine job of it with our help.

  57. I love to here Liberals on both sides of the border offering Republicans advice.

    We Republicans don't have to do much at all. Obama is going to implode. He promised the world, no one investigated his background, and he surfed a financial crisis.

    What he promised and continues to promise is un-doable. He is going to make himself an example to the American public.

    All the Republican party really needs to do is hold to the same principles it has always held to, and the pendulum will swing in its direction.

    What it doesn't need to do is pay attention to the advice of folks who oppose it.

  58. “…the one president that transcended partisan politics–Abraham Lincoln. No Democratic president in history comes close, not even FDR. Lincoln's leadership in the civil war and his abolition of slavery are often portrayed as American achievements as opposed to Republican successes”

    The historical stupidity of people knows no bounds! Lincoln was the biggest partisan hack in his era! The man had NO desire to “reach across the isle”, had other political leaders, and citizens arrested simply for disagreeing with him, violated to US Constitution during his entire presidency, (suspending the write of habeas corpus, raising troops with out having war declared, than declaring war himself where all of these actions are the sole job of congress not the president!) and to top it off never freed a single slave in his entire life! (If you think the emancipation freed the slaves than I suggest you read it!)

    Lincoln was a tyrant, and you people think he was the greatest president in history. If the founders were alive during Lincoln's term in office they would have had him hung!

  59. Consider me not a Palin Republican but a Palin Conservative. Sarah Palin is the antidote to big government Obama. If you look at general election patterns over the existence of US politics, you see voters choosing their next president by what they are not as well as who s/he is. Obama won because he ran against Bush in the midst of an economic crisis and an unpopular war.

    In a sense, Obama is Sarah Palin's best possible set-up man.

  60. The fact that you use the phrase “false charges of death panels” indicates that you have no idea what Obama has been talking about, or what is in any of the proposed bills, or what Obama’s advisors have been talking about.

  61. So, if you don't agree with the socialist demcong, that makes you:
    stupid, racist, rude and generally not acceptable to…….a bunch of no-talent journalism majors who think of themselves as the "elite" media AKA a division of the demcong party?
    Sign me up.
    At least I'm not in that terrorist sanctuary with bad medical care – Canada.

    • Idiocy has a name -graywolf!

  62. Do you know what racism is? Racism is thinking on the viewpoint of color. If the conservatives are against socialist/liberal policies for the 'FIRST TIME' because of Obama, you can call them that. BUT NO. Their key principles are and will always be against government takeover. Plus, I don't think Reid, Pelosi, Frank, Rangel, Daschle, etc. are black. conservatives are also EQUALLY CRITICAL OF THESE LIBERALS.

    In a post-racial society, anyone who wants to use the race card must think hard. Because, if you falsely accuse somebody to be a racist … YOU BECOME A RACIST BY WAY OF YOUR STANDARD.

    Note. Abortion is historically a tool of eugenics. The tool of Democrats to control the black population in America. If you know your history.

    Now, as for death panel, you SHOULD READ PALIN'S FB notes and argue with her if it is false. Truth be told, rationing bureaucrats are already installed under TARP. Note that when there's a rationing of health care like in UK's NHS, you will always have a "death panel" to retire costly but unproductive citizens who are burdens to the cost of health care. JUST LIKE HERE IN CANADA.

    BTW, I'm a libertarian. I think Obama's policies are not libertarians … they are more of SOCIALIST/MARXIST POLICIES.

  63. I'm a great fan of Lincolm and respect him emensely. He wasn't fool enought to "reach across the isle" when the end result made no sense.

    "The Party of Lincoln" hs a nice ring to it. It is too bad that many of those whom he freed have strayed from the GOP.

  64. Speaking purely from a strategic standpoint, it isn't clear to me that the GOP loses by indulging its party activists, nor did the Democrats by doing the same. Americans are deeply polarized. When elections take place in an environment of heavy polarization and with a small center, they become turnout wars rather than contests to sway centrist voters. Building a strong base is something that starts early in an election cycle. Where would Obama be without the Iraq war protests, moveon.org, etc. – all organizations that did their time being called "loonies" before being thrust into power.

    Centrist candidates have not fared well this past decade. John McCain nominated Sarah Palin largely because he had a dire shortage of campaign workers and money. He needed somebody to fire up the base. John Kerry similarly ran as a bland centrist, and lost the election despite winning the majority of independents. Similarly, Hillary Clinton lost in the primaries because she was vastly out-organized and opposed by the activist wing of the Democratic party.

    When people get their news from either Olbermann/Maddow/Stewart or Glen Beck/O'Reilly/Limbaugh is it any surprise that most American voters look like they are foaming at the mouth (and we Canadians appear set to head that way ourselves)?

  65. Lincoln "transcended partisan politics"? Huh?

    John, did you miss the tiny little coinkydink that a fair number of states said so long to the Union when he was elected? Mybe you heard about it? The American Civil War?

    Very possibly the MOST devisive president the US ever had.

  66. go to the tea parties and listen. go to your friends and tell them. the tax paying public has been screwed and now their figuring out just how bad. real genuine americans remember pearl harbor. what is it about a sneak attack? bo is bs, but thats ok, it will just prove the point even more. bs was a fool for taking the job… true americans aren't stupid! we save people from snake bite…

  67. Typical elitist rhetoric that demonstrates exactly whats wrong with this country, its politics and Hollywood perfectly.
    Lots of right on comments here. Saves me the trouble of having to lambaste this article myself, thanks folks. hehe.

  68. Hmmm a Canadian mag commenting about Palin.Seems as usual you are taking the typical easterner stance.Palins bad,shes evil,she hunts,comercial fishes,raises 5 kids,ran a state gov.Are you serious she is not mainstream?What part of free markets do you libs not understand,oh ya its that free part.Heres a few not main stream things(in your opinion) you might consider if you had a brain easterner.Lowest tax rates in America,billions saved in states treasury,education budget paid 2 years in advance,unemployment level even during this crisis kept to or below 8%.A massive cng pipeline deal negotiated,federal earmarks reduced by 85%,hundreds of millions cut in wasteful spending.Hundreds of millions for weatherization,renewable energy,home heating oil rebates.Supream court victory to open a massive gold mine providing jobs and royalties to an impovrished local native band.Thousands given in rebates to every man woman and child in AK each year,83% reduction in medical backlogs.Strictist ethics reforms laws ever passed in her states history.Which ended backroom deals,by making the legislators and administrators deal on camera in public,with big oil.Just a few things you people who write this nonsense think isnt mainstream.Palin rocks.

    • ''Hmmm a Canadian mag commenting about Palin'' … ''you might consider if you had a brain easterner''

      Well, you are presently in the ''international'' ''blog'' section… Meaning that it is an ''opinion'' on an ''international subject''.

      Might not be your opinion, but you've got to respect it.

  69. Palin is such a polemical figure (as is obvious by these comments). I can't imagine, if things stay the way there are now, that the Republicans would want to put her front and center in 2012. Wouldn't it make more sense, strategy-wise, to throw their weight behind someone with a less divisive public image?

    • Palin isn't likely to win (or even run) in 2012. Partisan shills like Parisella like showcasing her and Bush because they daren't actually discuss the record of their man in Washington. It is essentially shadow-boxing, and pretty ironic shadow-boxing considering that Democrats were the ones wearing "dissent is patriotic" bumper-stickers, etc. not too long ago. This is an age old tactic that goes back at least to McCarthyism (and one Republicans use too). For the most part it is idiotic and involves drawing lines between groups that don't exist (I would characterize opposition to Obama more as being Paul/Gingrich than Palin Republicans – these aren't warmongering social conservatives, these are anti-government types).

  70. I am glad to see that SARAH is scoring big time . She is unstoppable .

  71. Our American friends do not need any lexture or finger pointing to recognize the obvious short comings of Sarah Palin. All I feel is a degree of embarrassment for my American friends with this public display disguised as serious politics.

    Doug

    • Hear hear. One must stand with our liberal American friends in solidarity. Imagine living in a country in which opinions like the ones up top here are nearly mainstream. Our friends need all the sympathy they can get.

      At the same time, I'm also cheering for the non-lunatic Republicans, who I pray may eventually emerge and ditch the zanies. It will be very hard to do so, of course, and presumably Obama will get a second term while the non-lunatic Republicans try and recuperate. The transitional phase will be dangerous, however, since if Obama slips badly and somehow loses, a genuine psychopath from the as-yet-unreconstructed Republicans may assume the throne of Washington. I can't imagine how harrowing that would be — certainly so for us, but a hundred times more so for our American friends.

  72. The Palin LOONIES are out in full force . The woman ,Palin ,cannot do an interview . Has no idea what the Bush doctrine is . Cannot name more than one Supreme Court ruling . She left Alaska and approval numbers were dropping like a rock . She is a far right demagogue who uses her kids as props . Much of what I have read is racist and hateful .Dangerous people who just prove the Republicans are in a sorry state .

  73. Actually, she had been a party to the Exxon Valdez case, which any half decent researcher for Katie Couric would have found it out. As a mayor and governor, she would be very concerned with the Kelo case. Her convention speech took issue with a whole line of cases, that departed from precedent, starting with Hamdi to Boumedienne, that gave terrorists, Miranda rights. She published Op Ed in the Times, (on the Polar Bear question) that the Obama Interior Department adopted, and letters to the editor to theSan Francisco Chronicle, again, She had to to tow the policy line of the McCain campaign on issues like
    cap n trade, and the TARP bill. She should have emphasized missile
    defense. considering the strategic location of Ft. Greeley, rather than follow a template about Diomede Island, chances are Couric wouldn't have been able to follow that either.. Gibson edited out all the context
    from her questions on relations with the Russians and the Georgia issue, among other issues
    could have found out

  74. Hi crazed white gop basement hate-on mob, why don't you posters try to do something creative/constructive for your country rather than spamming a news site.

  75. Why are Obama supporters so braindead?

  76. And this is why I refuse to vote in elections. These are the people whose views the government is supposed to represent? Lowest common denominator politics indeed. No wonder nothing ever gets done in this nation! Or the US, for that matter. Everyone's too concerned with hating the opposition and arguing against whatever they say, regardless of how ridiculous one's own "solution" is, and it's happening on both sides. Governments can't get anything done because they're more concerned with getting elected (by uneducated voters swayed by fear, personal gain or the promise of avoiding personal loss, and sound bites, at that!) than actually getting stuff done and improving the country… countries. But the fault lies in the voters most of all.

    I'm rather surprised at what appears to be a large number of American comment-writers here on a Canadian news magazine site, though. We're not supposed to matter! We're just Canadians! :P

    By the way, people dislike Sarah Palin because she apparently can relate to the voters I mentioned above who prefer politicians who appear similar to them on a superficial level instead of educated politicians who not only care about fixing problems but actually have realistic ideas on how to implement them. Well… realistic in the logical sense. And logic isn't something that's very common these days, it seems, in either party or either country.

  77. The battle over healt care was already a intra-party contest within the
    democratic party.
    Now, John, CatCatCat, Kandu, If you consider how Sarah Palin from
    only one Facebook page did little other than kill the death panels provisision , derail the entire public option in this 1000 + pages bill, you should ask yourself seriously why .

  78. This is simply a leadership void and I'm afraid this will go on for 2 election cycles before the republicans come out of the woods. Until then, via Palin and Limbauch and Beck and the Club for Growth and the tea part …
    Toronto moving

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