There's room for everyone on the NDP bandwagon - Macleans.ca
 

There’s room for everyone on the NDP bandwagon


 

Holy cow, Gilles Duceppe’s gonna be in a foul mood when he sees this: in an open letter sent to La Presse, two former Bloc Québécois operatives are calling on their fellow sovereigntists to vote NDP on Monday. Maxime Bellerose, a former riding association president, and Benoît Demuy, who worked as a staffer in former Bloc MP Réal Ménard’s office, write Quebecers would be foolish to not hop on the social democratic bandwagon Jack Layton hopes to lead all the way to Ottawa.

“For the first time in our political lives, social democracy is knocking on Parliament’s door! It would be a shame if Quebecers did not take advantage of this opportunity to send to Ottawa MPs who loudly and proudly share Quebec’s values of justice and cooperation,” argues the pair, who say they’re both still members of the Bloc Québécois.

“We are still and will remain profoundly convinced that sovereignty is the best way for Quebec and its people to continue its development,” they add. “But as is widely said, the sovereignty of Quebec will be achieved in Quebec and not in Ottawa. Until then, our fellow citizens must live under the Canadian federal regime, whether they like it or not… In the absence of a referendum victory, voting NDP is now the way to end the cycle of Conservative minority governments.”


 

There’s room for everyone on the NDP bandwagon

  1. Wow. Well, they aren't going to be members of the Bloc Quebecois for long.

  2. If this holds….once again Quebec determines Canadian history.

    • Yeah, it's funny isn't it?

      I wonder what's behind their willingness to switch parties wholesale like they so often do?

      In any case, it sure throws things for a loop doesn't it?

      • Sure does. The NDP hasn't said or done anything different this election than they've ever done, but suddenly they caught on. It'll be interesting to see if this holds on election day.

        • I was all caught up in the NDP wave too so much so that I advanced voted on Good Friday. However, even though I was a bit drunk* I was able to resist the urge to vote NDP. Good luck to everyone else!

          *had a good time at the race track that day, btw.

  3. voting NDP is now the way to end the cycle of Conservative minority governments…

    …or rather, by stopping them just short of majority, of perpetuating them, just with a different opposition party this time.

    If they think PM Layton buoyed by a caucus of bewildered elected placeholder candidates — some still a year or two away from their bachelor degrees — will be good for Quebec, they may as well think independence will be good for Quebec. Oh…

    UPDATE: Check out Don MacPherson's Top 5 Best and Top 5 Worst things about being a newly elected Quebec NDP MP:
    http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/Bloc+pulle

    • "a caucus of bewildered elected placeholder candidates — some still a year or two away from their bachelor degrees — will be good for Quebec"

      Certainly there is some risk here, but overall given most Canadians' contempt for professional politicians and their efforts, isn't this arguably what we actually want? I find myself intrigued by it. Not enough to vote for my own underqualified NDP candidate, but intrigued.

      • "given most Canadians' contempt for professional politicians "
        Be careful what you wish for, eh?

    • Thanks for MacPherson link, didn't see it earlier, very funny.

      I like "Pays way better than being a barista." and "Can get parliamentary library staff to do research for term papers."

      • Yes, look at all those young idiots engaging in civic discourse and trying to make their country better by standing for public office. Why don't they just go back to their bongs???

        • Dude, I don't want a bunch of people my age who haven't done anything with their lives holding power over the country. I mean, this is how you get career politicians — by getting in young and never getting any look at the world from an outside perspective. These new NDP MPs from Quebec (however many of them there end up being) will be in the same boat Harper, Kenney, Baird, Clement, Poilievre, and all the rest of that brood started out in.

    • WRT MacPherson's article, I know we all hate politicians, and it's all in good fun but jeepers. A bunch of young Canadians are engaged enough to run for public office and we mock them for it?

      I'm all for laying in to politicians, but still. Considering how relatively few Canadians can be bothered to get off the couch and vote every 3-5 years, I do sometimes wish we treated people who actually get involved in public service a bit better. Maybe more young Canadians would vote if we didn't treat them like frivolous idiots who barely deserve the franchise.

      • LKO, the party was mocking them for being an adult Canadian citizen with a pulse (I hope the vetting went at least that far) willing to sign on to being a sacrificial lamb in an unwinnable riding. That way the party gets to trumpet, "We're a truly national party running to win in every riding!" Have a look at the NDP's own candidate websites for some of these Quebec aspirants. Y-a pas grande chose.

        Do you seriously think any party would devote next to nothing in resources to run these nobodies engaged young Canadians if they believed at the start they might win the riding? Right, me neither.

        So I am mocking the parties for their silly cynicism. The candidates earn some mockery for playing along. And some of them will end up MPs whether they wanted expected to or not.

  4. I just don't get the herd mentality.

    • Then you must be clamouring for more Independent candidates to step forward. Parties are little more than colour-coded herds to slip into.

    • ban polling!

      • I agree. I'm sick of polls, and pollsters. In fact, I wonder if it isn't against Election Canada rules, when you think about it. We're not allowed to transmit election results on election day — but they're acting as if these polls ARE election results; so if that's the case (including seat projections!!) then why are they allowed to blather all over the bloody airwaves about what the election results will be?

        Polls influence elections. It's crowd control, cattle-herding – people vote according to polls, it seems. So outlaw the damn things. Make politicians do their own polling and they can also keep it to themselves. Just shut up and get out of my hair – I'll vote alread.

    • I know. Alberta drives me nuts too.

  5. I don`t know—I`m not completely convinced that the Bloc vote moving to the Dippers is strictly a parked-protest vote and not a more strategic and cynical move on the part of the separatists.

    Ask yourself this—if you were a thinking Quebec voter would you expect that an NDP dominated coalition gov`t of some description would be a positive influence on the Canadian economy, on the stock market, on the confidence of investors ?
    Would their policies and actions help create jobs in the private sector ?
    Would they discourage corporate investment especially in the oil industry as large companies decide to wait out what would be a unstable time in the country ?
    Would we have a massive deficit as the new gov`t tried to fulfill some of their promises ?

    Or would a NDP influenced gov`t because of it`s weak position and sense of owing Quebec for it`s election be more receptive to demands of sovereignty ?

    • That only makes sense if you completely ignore the policies of the BQ and PQ. In the real world there are people who actually think that leftwing policies are better for the country and vote accordingly. Not coincidentally, the sovereigntist movement in Quebec has these people in abundance.

      If anyone cared to actually examine the modern Bloc this NDP surge would cease to amaze them. Duceppe has clearly moved the party away from being an ad hoc coalition only united by a desire to separate. The Conservative's semi-successful (2006 in particular) attempt to woo rightwing soft nationalists only aided this transformation. It has since become a thoroughly left wing party. Indeed, Duceppe's previous campaign strategy centred on the party's ability to stop a rightwing Harper majority. This was a blatant attempt to attract votes from leftwing federalists in the province.

      It really isn't very surprising that as soon as the NDP looked capable of winning seats, people decide that it made sense to vote for them. Of course believing that leftwingers would vote for a leftwing party is far more difficult than believing that it must be some kind of bizarre plot to destroy Canada.

  6. This was always the risk in the Bloc and Liberal message that you should vote for them in order to stop a Harper majority. That works as long as your party is the most popular opposition party, but if that starts to slip, this actually accelerates your party's decline.

  7. Everyone loves democracy until the folks you don't like start winning.

  8. I don't want Jack in the PMO because I don't trust him, and I don't have a lot of confidence in his ability to handle the Americans. I don't think Harper handles the Americans very well, in fact I think he's scared of them, especially the Republicans. He'd make a great school principal, but not a Prime Minister.