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Whereas attacking someone for his religious beliefs is the height of open-mindedness


 

Opus Dei candidate proves Tories’ are narrow-minded: Duceppe

Running a member of the ultra-Catholic, ultra-secret group Opus Dei as a candidate is proof that Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative party are narrow-minded right-wing ideologues who would take away a woman’s right to choose, Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe charged this morning.

OPUS JULIE: Oh, and this little ‘meanwhile,” tucked in at the bottom:

Meanwhile, it was revealed that publication of Ms. Couillard’s book about her life with motorcycle gang members and her experiences in the corridors of power at Bernier’s side has been advanced. It will now hit the shelves Oct. 6, a week before voters go to the polls.


 

Whereas attacking someone for his religious beliefs is the height of open-mindedness

  1. Are attacks on Catholics going to work in Quebec?

    I know little about current Quebec society, and I know the Quiet Revolution broke the stranglehold the church had over its parishioners, but I assumed there would be a vestige of sympathy for Catholicism.

    And never underestimate the intolerance of a ‘progressive’.

  2. Attacks on Opus Dei will work among any reasonably knowledgeable Catholic society. Among mainstream Catholics, they’re recognized as a bit nuts. Among non-observant Catholics (i.e., most Quebeckers) they’re seen as totally nuts.

    And, having spent some time at an Opus Dei residence in Montreal, I would agree with that sentiment.

  3. Isn’t this from the leader of the party who had a Catholic priest elected as an MP in the last election?

  4. jwl – the general population of Catholics don’t trust Opus Dei either. They certainly don’t in Dublin. Google: “Opus Dei to run wealthy Merrion Road parish”

  5. I expected that about the book advancing its release date. Perfect time to cash in on the controversy.

  6. Andrew, on your headline, attacking the intolerant is an act of tolerance.

    – JV

  7. I mentioned this earlier – but Tony Blair’s Minister of Education was an active member of Opus Dei (as are several other European politicians). Not that there’s anything okay about that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Kelly

  8. Opus Dei is to Catholicism as Wahhabism is to Islam.

  9. “Opus Dei is to Catholicism as Wahhabism is to Islam.”

    Except that even the Opus Dei fanatics don’t want to blow up thousands of innocents with airplanes.

  10. OPus Dei is to Catholicism as Quakers are to Protestant. Or oats. Whatever, they dress funny and are religious – isn’t that enough to keep them out of public office?

  11. It’s a big church. It’s got a right, a left, and a mushy middle. But an interesting note: what is controversial among Catholics about Opus Dei (so ultra-secret you can access their website here: http://www.opusdei.org)is not, as this reporter and presumably M. Duceppe seem to suggest, its opposition to abortion, contraception, and same-sex marriage. Opposition to these three things would technically be called “Catholicism.”

  12. True,Ted. Let me see now. One Wahhabi to one airplane. Well,make it three or four to one airplane……. do we have enough?
    I’ll ask Avi.

  13. I am not now, nor have been, a member of Opus Dei. I wonder what difference does one’s religious affiliation have to do with public office? Frankly I am suspect of anyone in public office who does not have some faith based foundation for their lives. With that in mind, does anyone really know what Opus Dei is except for the Dan Brown movie? If you do not then giving your opinion on it would be like saying you are knowledgeable of movies while having only seen the Three Stooges.

  14. as long as he isn’t disingenuous about how his beliefs will affect his work as a member of parliament, he should run and let the people decide.

  15. “If you do not then giving your opinion on it would be like saying you are knowledgeable of movies while having only seen the Three Stooges.”

    I had a feeling someone was going to whip out that old chestnut. If I had a nickle for every time I heard someone use the “it’s like saying you are knowledgeable of movies while having only seen the Three Stooges” cliche during a political debate…

  16. Hey, Stooges references are always relevant during election campaigns.

  17. I had a feeling someone was going to whip out that old chestnut. If I had a nickle for every time I heard someone use the “it’s like saying you are knowledgeable of movies while having only seen the Three Stooges” cliche during a political debate…

    That’s funny. I had the same feeling about your chestnutty response.

  18. What is old Gilles thinking? Attacking the church (albeit a sect) in Quebec is like sticking your tonque in an electric outlet!

  19. We need Warren Kinsella to go on TV with a stuffed Opus Dei Knight and say, “The Da Vinci Code was NOT a documentary.”

    Personally, I’d feel much more comfortable on a plane with a known Opus Dei member than I would on a plane with a known Wahabbist. I’d imagine the potential for spontaneous combustion is many times higher with the Wahabist. But that’s just my own personal prejudice speaking.

  20. Day 2 and the beady-eyed Mr. Duceppe is already onto ad hominem attacks. Pretty thin arsenal I’d say. The guy’s playing “let’s save the furniture” so I expect we’ll hear more of the same.

  21. Right Jarrid…Mr Duceppe waited until only day 2 for the ad-hominem attacks. What a mean spirited man he is!

    Whereas the attacks on Mr Dion didn’t start until day – what? minus 230?

  22. Thanks for the reality check – it has always irked me the the so-called progressive left campaigns in defense of openess, inclusiveness, equality as long as you agree with their rather narrow definition of what “acceptable”. No one or no party should be allowed to denegrate and dismiss a candidacy based on religion – voters can make up their own minds at the ballot box what they require and want in an elected official.

  23. I’d like to have one of the Leaders debates in Latin just to hear Gilles Duceppe say:

    Veni, vidi, vici.

    Then he could scream out, like in the Bugs Bunny send up of Gladiator pics:

    “Victim! Victim! Get me a Victim!”

  24. Trailer Park, I fear Duceppe would have to read a prepared statement and then stare maniacally at the camera for the rest of the debate. Perhaps Aeneid 2.195-8?

    Talibus insidiis periurique arte Sinonis
    credita res, captique dolis lacrimisque coactis
    quos neque Tydides nec Larisaeus Achilles,
    non anni domuere decem, non mille carinae.

    …rendered by Dryden:

    With such deceits he gain’d their easy hearts,
    Too prone to credit his perfidious arts.
    What Diomede, nor Thetis’ greater son,
    A thousand ships, nor ten years’ siege, had done.

  25. “Hey, Stooges references are always relevant during election campaigns.”

    Good one! Now which one(Party Leaders) is Larry, Moe, Curly Joe.

  26. Hey Neil, I’m weighing in with Harper as Curly (that helmet just has to be covering up a bald head). Jack is Moe, he struts around pretending to be in charge and poking people in the eye whenever he gets a chance. Dion is Larry, a bit unsure of himself, not quite as dumb as Curly, but willing to go along and ergo the same effect. That leaves Gilles as Shemp. (Liz was never cast for the show, maybe she will sue).

  27. Andrew – you know that the federal NDP has long long supported PR. When Jack is Prime Minister that will be at the top of the agenda. BTW – why has MSM not been reporting today’s Angus Reid poll that shows that the NDP has blown past the Liberals in Quebec (6pts) and now Dion’s Liberals are in fourth place in Quebec. The NDP are also in a statistical dead heat with the Liberals for second place nationally.

    For those who haven’t seen it: http://angusreidstrategies.com/uploads/pages/pdfs/2008.09.10_FedRace.pdf

  28. A federal NDP in a position to actually win government is as likely to support PR as any provincial NDP government in the same position (that is, completely unlikely).

  29. If they’re as determined to elevate holy men to positions of political power as the North American Evangelicals are they can stick it where the sun don’t shine.

    and I mean that in the most open-minded of ways.

  30. As Barbra Streisand once said “I hate intollerant people.”

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