Canadians join 85-year-old Frank Meyers in battle to save farm

But is all the attention too little, too late?


Fighting to keep his family farm, Frank Meyers has enjoyed precious little public support. The federal government has pushed him out. His Member of Parliament wants him gone. Even the local city council (Quinte West, Ont.) passed a unanimous motion endorsing Ottawa’s controversial plan: expropriating his historic land near CFB Trenton to construct a new headquarters for Joint Task Force 2, the Canadian military’s elite Special Forces squad. Minus his family and his faith in the Lord, Frank Meyers has been waging a very lonely battle.

Not anymore.

Seven years after the feds first offered to buy his farm—and 18 months after they took it, his objections be damned—Meyers’s story has suddenly hit a raw nerve with fellow Canadians. Strangers are phoning the house and writing letters. An online petition is collecting signatures (1,095, at last check). And a Facebook campaign (“Save Frank & Marjorie Meyers Farm”) has amassed 3,000 supporters in a little more than a week. “I don’t have no Internet,” says Meyers, now 85 years old. “But I can’t stop people from fighting for me, and I appreciate it. They’ll never know how much I appreciate what they’re doing. I could never repay them.”

Unfortunately for Meyers, all the attention is probably too little, too late. His property already belongs to the federal government, the takeover rubber stamped after an emotional public hearing last year. Only last week—amid news that his lease agreement had expired, and this season’s harvest will be his last—did the story explode on social media. Still, the family is optimistic the newfound publicity may somehow convince the Harper cabinet to reassess its plans. “It seems like it’s pretty late in the game, but you never know,” says John Meyers, Frank’s son. “We always hold out hope that something can happen.”

For Maclean’s readers, the Meyers story has unfolded in front of their eyes.

The direct descendant of Capt. John Walden Meyers—a loyalist war hero and founder of nearby Belleville, Ont.—Frank farms a portion of the same plot of land given to the captain by King George III for his exemplary service during the American Revolution. (Ironically enough, Capt. Meyers was the 18th-century version of a special-forces commando, a crack spy and daring soldier most famous for leading a late-night raid on the home of U.S. general. To patriot children, he was the bogeyman. If you don’t behave, their mothers would say, Capt. Meyers “will come and eat you.”) Signed in May 1798, nearly 70 years before Canadian Confederation, the Crown land patent assigned the property to the Meyers clan “forever.”

Frank has never lived anywhere else, working the family land since he was able to walk. By 14, he was in charge of the entire farm, part dairy operation, part cash crops. “I’ve lived on this farm for 85 years, worked it all my life, and I don’t know why the government wants to throw us out,” he says. “Why does the government have the right to take away our land?”

In 2006, a campaigning Stephen Harper promised to bring an airborne unit to CFB Trenton, Canada’s largest and busiest air force base (and the same hub that welcomed home the flag-draped caskets of every Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan). Two years later, the news was official: JTF 2 would be the incoming unit. From a strategic standpoint, the move makes absolute sense; the team’s current home at Dwyer Hill, near Ottawa, is famously cramped, and Trenton offers instant access to airlift for rapid deployments. But JTF 2’s new headquarters—slated to be built on 400 hectares of private property directly north of the base—meant that 12 landowners would be uprooted, whether they wanted to leave or not. All the government press releases failed to mention that point.

Legally speaking, the owners had no real options. If the state wants your land (for a highway, a hospital or a top-secret training facility), you can either sell now or be expropriated later. For the feds, expropriation is always a last resort, and Treasury Board guidelines allow bureaucrats to offer up to 15 per cent more than fair market value, plus moving costs and other incidentals. But the bottom line is nonnegotiable: you’re leaving, one way or another.

In this case, each owner did eventually hammer out a deal—except Frank Meyers. For him, the selling price was never the hiccup. He simply doesn’t want to part with his forefather’s land, and he truly believed the government would leave him alone if he kept ignoring their offers. He was wrong.

Rick Norlock, the local Conservative M.P., has championed the base expansion project because it will inject millions of dollars and hundreds of well-paying jobs into an economically depressed region. Moving JTF 2 to Trenton is also the best logistical option for the military, he says. “The vast majority of my constituents—and when I say the vast majority, I’m talking the vast majority of my constituents—want this to go ahead sooner rather than later because they know the economic implications,” Norlock told Maclean’s last month. “I can tell you I’m pushing for this to go ahead, quite frankly, because we made a commitment six years ago. I want to make sure that I can look my constituents in the eye and say we lived up to our commitment at CFB Trenton.”

In fact, Norlock said he personally approached the prime minister before the 2011 election to ask why the government appeared to be stalling on the project. Stephen Harper, Norlock said, was aware of the Meyers’s predicament and wanted to give the family ample opportunity to work out a deal. “The prime minister told me his concerns that he wanted this, as much as possible, to be a negotiated settlement,” Norlock said. “He was aware of the history behind this and the sensitivity that the government should have.”

By 2012, the time for sensitivity had run out. In February, Meyers was served with a notice of expropriation, stating his farm was required “for a purpose related to the safety or security of Canada.” His family did hire a lawyer and file a last-ditch appeal in front of independent hearings officer, arguing, among other things, that the government didn’t actually need their 90 hectares to finish JTF 2’s new stomping grounds. But the hearings officer wielded no rule authority. Federal officials read her report and went ahead with the expropriation anyway.

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In a “statement of reasons” dated May 25, 2012, Rona Ambrose, then the Public Works minister, said the Meyers land is “absolutely essential” for national security. “The Meyers family will receive fair compensation for their ownership interests and may utilize proceeds to continue farming on available replacement lands of similar or superior quality,” she wrote. And the property’s heritage value? “It is not considered that either historic landscape or cultural history will be lost,” the document read. “The Meyers family name is also preserved with the existing name of the roadway as Meyers Creek Road and the historical associations are well known.”

Although he doesn’t own the land anymore, Meyers signed a lease agreement that allowed him to continue farming (and finish removing his property). When that lease expired Oct. 1—and the “No Trespassing” sign went up—base officials offered another extension: until his corn is harvested, Meyers can continue to access the property under the watchful eye of a commissionaire. “The military guys have been very nice and supportive,” says John Meyers, who understands that his family’s spat is with the government, not the members of JTF 2. “The bureaucrats are the ones running this show.”

In the meantime, Frank Meyers is no more interested in negotiating a selling price than he was back in 2006, when a Public Works official first called the house. Signing a deal, after all, would be the final nail in his farm’s coffin. “We’ve got to stop them,” he says. “We’ve got to stop the government from doing the corruption they’re doing. You can’t keep burying prime farmland.”

Although the Meyers men are realists—and they fully understand that the government already owns the deed—they’re not ready to give up quite yet, especially now that people are finally beginning to pay attention. “We are going to get our stuff off the property just as a precautionary measure, but it’s certainly encouraging to know that people are supporting us,” John says. “We think this is a larger issue about what the government can and can’t do with our rights, and people support Canadians having the right to own their own property.”

Lisa Gibson had never heard about the Meyers until last week, when she read about their case at macleans.ca. When she posted the link—and her disgust—on her Facebook account, the response was swift enough to compel her to create the “Save Frank & Marjorie Meyers Farm” page. On Tuesday, she even drove two-and-a-half hours to meet Frank in person. “It made me angry; it’s something that shouldn’t be happening,” she says. “I would like to see them allow him to live out his days doing the only thing he has ever known.”

Like the Meyers, she realizes her efforts are likely too late to make any difference. But she plans to keep spreading the word anyway. “There is always a hope,” she says. “It’s not really over until it is over.”

For Rick Norlock, it is over. “It’s a done deal,” he told Maclean’s. “There is no going back. The only thing I want to make sure—that I pray happens, to be quite frank with you—is that to the extent possible, that Mr. Meyers will at least be able to feel good about the compensation part. He will never be happy with the other part. I know that for a fact.”

“I guess the good of the many, in this particular case, outweighs the good of the few,” Norlock continued. “And people will have to make a decision as to whether or not they feel, in this particular case, that it’s appropriate. If not, then I—and we—will suffer the political consequences of it. But to date, after three elections, we’ve lived up to our commitment, and I think overwhelmingly, at least locally, people are in agreement with what we’ve done.”


Canadians join 85-year-old Frank Meyers in battle to save farm

  1. All other issues aside here…. we need a legal definition of ‘forever’.

    ‘Signed in May 1798, nearly 70 years before Canadian Confederation, the
    Crown land patent assigned the property to the Meyers clan “forever.”’

    FNs should also be demanding a legal explanation of the term for their own security.

    • Still obsessed with indians, I see, even when they’re irrelevant to the story at hand.

      • I assume you’ll be joining your family for Thanksgiving dinner….have a heart-to-heart with them about your mental problems.

        • Heh heh heh… that one’s pretty weak, even for you.

          • Yes dear, you have a weak mind….like I told you last week.

            Now then, I’m busy today and won’t be joining you in your cracker barrel fantasies. Ciao

        • You still don’t know what happens when you assume something, I see.

      • It is relevant because Capt. John Walden Meyers was given land in return for military service after the war of 1812.

        I live within 6 miles of the Grande River, also land that was given to Natives in return for military service after the war of 1812.

        Seems like when the Crown make a commitment “for ever”, it may be ruled otherwise at a later date.

        …nice touch appropriating the land on the 200th anniversary, do not remember that on Harper History tv.

        • I’m not following you; is some of the land being claimed by the indians also claimed by Meyers? Or also part of the parcel being bought off Meyers? For a sweet two million dollars, BTW.

          The relevance is elusive.

          • Let’s not forget about the Natives also contributed during the American war of Independence and the war of 1812. Lands were granted by the crown in return of military service. (not same land as Meyers, but same type of compensation with the length of term “forever”)

            Lands granted by the crown are being expropriated. This happened to the Natives in other places in Canada, now it is happening to Meyers.

            How can a Government make a treaty “forever”, then change its mind?

            Not sure how this is possible to break a treaty from one side and claim the high road. Two million does not make it right, but the optics are better than what the Natives ever received.

          • Likely because governments cannot be trusted! When it comes to governments running rough shod over its people, we no longer have a democratic country, though I doubt this country was ever really democratic…that is just a term used to placate the ignorant and naive!

          • Whomever the Crown cedes land to and says that it is forever, should expect that forever should mean forever. If it only means “until we want it back,” then that isn’t forever.

            FNs as well as Meyers have both been given different bits of land for forever, so both parties should be seeking a legal definition of forever.

            That’s what I took from this.

          • I love the irony where the white people are the ones “indian giving”.

            I don’t actually love it. Just the irony. It’s a shitty move no matter what color or whatever does it to you.

          • GlynnMhor, you certainly are some special kind of stupid, aren’t you??!! Or maybe just Scottish! This is a comparison of the history of governments going back on their deals! WITH EVERYONE!!!!

          • “Or just Scottish”

            Wow, sick burn bro.

          • Its relevant because similar things happened to the natives with the governments promising things and going back on it later. I assume your just trolling though because the comparison is pretty self explanatory so I suspect what your saying is kind of moot…
            On an unprofessional note though, you are kind of stupid, even if you are just trolling. Just saying…

      • Besides, FN produces so very little if anything for this country. They are consumers of wealth and don’t pull their own weight. Able body fleabaggers looking for a free ride. No coincidence in the Freeman freeloaders having active associations with FN.

    • forever means just that his family owns the land until there are no more Myers in his line to claim it….it does not matter when it was signed it is a legal and binding contract. Our goverment is greedy and thinks they can justify whatever they wish to do. Here is a news flash for them we voted them in and we can vote them right back out.

    • legal definition of forever is exactly that…FOREVER!

  2. ” Rona Ambrose, then the Public Works minister, said the Meyers land is “absolutely essential” for national security.”

    The Minister was at best wrongly briefed and at worst lying. It’s not obvious that the property is even “absolutely essential” for the JTF-2 move let alone national security. The JTF-2 move isn’t “absolutely essential” or we would have seen the consequences of their not being on Meyer’s property years ago.

    What we have is a DND “nice to have” and the government wildly exaggerating the need for the move. This misuse of language is typical in defence and security fields as everything becomes “vital”.

    • ” Rona Ambrose, then the Public Works minister, said the Meyers land is “absolutely essential” for national security.”
      She’s expecting an invasion from NY.

    • Still posting your nonsense, I see fred.

  3. “From a strategic standpoint, the move makes absolute sense; the team’s
    current home at Dwyer Hill, near Ottawa, is famously cramped, and
    Trenton offers instant access to airlift for rapid deployments.”

    The “instant” need for airlift has yet to happen since SERT was formed in the late 80’s. There is no practical need for “instant” access to aircraft. If such was the case then planes would already be dedicated to JTF-2 and kept in Ottawa. The led unit for foreign operations, CSOR, isn’t moving to Trenton. The cost, $200- 300 million, seems to have been forgotten.

    How do we know Dwyer Hill is “famously cramped”? Why wouldn’t a move for some JTF-2 elements to Petawawa solve this?

    • So, what is your agenda here?

      All this whining, I suppose the bottom line here is you want some sort of proof that the DND needs the space.

      If the DND were to set up somewhere else, they’d still need to take somebody’s land.

      • Actually, last I checked this is CANADA and we have millions of acres of wilderness available.

        It’s an elite commando unit. They don’t need luxury condos in nearby Belleville.

        • Heh heh heh… they aren’t going to be setting up in a wilderness somewhere. And splitting the unit up and distributing its operations eliminates the rapid deployment capability for which the unit was founded.

          • How so? Where has it deployed to so rapidly that it couldn’t fly out of Ottawa?

          • Ottawa does not have an airbase. It’s only large airport is a civilian one.

          • The military still has facilities and air units stationed on what was Uplands.

          • Not as good as what they intend to use.

          • A post ago Ottawa didn’t have an air base and now it has just one just not as good. $200-300 million + for a better air field. Sounds like good value.

          • Pork doesn’t come cheap these days.

          • The Liberal government closed Uplands down a long time ago…it was a prime airbase at the time and had all the support facilities essential to operations in place. The fighter base was shipped to Quebec.

          • fred, you obviously haven’t been to Uplands.

          • They can park their planes next to the newly painted Conservative banner or even use its space, since Dear Leader is always using it for transport from one hideout to another.

          • Your ignorance is amusing.

            That Airbus is painted in RCAF colours.

            Where is Harper, “always” flying?

            Not too long ago, the government was criticized for NOT using the Challenger fleet.

            Make up your mind.

          • Funny. That plane probably gets used just as much, or more, for regular military flights and training that it does by “Dear Leader”.

          • fred, you obviously don’t know a thing about the military.

      • DND top brass, coupled with the government – are notorious for making bad decisions, and have been doing so for the past 150 years. Look at the bases they’ve closed down and sold off – like Cornwalls, and Calgary. What’s going on at Borden? They’re full of BS – they could easily turn around in 20 years and sell this too. I don’t trust them.

        • So you don’t trust them.

          So what? It’s not relevant at all to this story.

          • Of course it’s relevant. If the move is only nice to have and they’ve testified it’s “absolutely essential” when they know it’s not- that may well be perjury.

          • Not a trial, so no perjury there.

            And whether it is absolutely essential or really convenient to have is also irrelevant. They’re going to get the land they need.

          • If you’re happy with government officials lying then there’s little point in discussing anything else.

          • Heh heh heh… I am inured to politicians and officials lying, but in this case even if there are lies, the lies are pretty harmless.

            The guy got some two million for that part of his land, after all. I could use some government oppression of that species.

          • The harmless lie will cost the tax payer at least $200 million and probably closer to 300.

          • Explain how your math works, fred.

          • There’s no point in reading your posts, fred.

          • How do you know they’re lying fred?

          • “perjury”?

            That’s funny!

            Read a dictionary, fred.

          • “If the move..”?

            You don’t know?

        • CFB Calgary was closed by the Liberals.

          Borden is still operational.

          • Edmonton was also closed by the Liberals as were countless other bases!

      • My agenda: To stop government waste in order to lower taxes and increase prosperity and freedom. DND is the biggest waste in the GOC and makes itself an easy target with foolish spending, incompetence and deceit.

        I want proof and Ambrose saying it’s “absolutely essential”- which is clearly untrue- makes the case for even more transparency.

        • Your agenda: to display your complete ignorance of any and all military related subjects.

          Job, well done, fred.

      • Like a private sector buyer, the DND could shop around for property, without coercing someone into selling. Again, there are plenty of possibly less costly options, here.

        A likely explanation is that a local contractor friend of Mr Norlock is getting the contract to build the facility, preferably ASAP before the next Federal election. The Conservatives are as dirty as the Liberals.

        • What are those options?

    • fred, quit posting comments, like you know what you are talking about.

      “There is no practical need for “instant” access to aircraft.”?


      The obvious is that hard for you to figure out?

      How, exactly, do you ‘dedicate’ planes to a unit?

      Have them waiting on the ground?


      What’s a ‘led unit’?

      “Why wouldn’t a move for some JTF-2 elements to Petawawa solve this?”

      Again, wow.

      That’s right, split up a unit….

    • Who says CSOR is the lead unit? You seem to be the only person who’s completely set on that. I’d say the government decides who does what based on the job at hand.

      • Fred is more than a little lost when it comes to anything the CF does.

  4. There are always other options for acquiring property, and–not withstanding the $#!+ Ambrose is expelling–there is no essential need for the government to take THIS property. The Conservatives need to stop being hypocrites on the issue of property rights and look for an alternate site for this base. They could probably save quite a lot of taxpayer money in the process.

    • Like what?

    • You think they’re going to save money by moving an entire air base?

      Let me guess …. medical marijuana, right?

  5. How come a white man’s property can be expropriated so easily , yet if it were lands that Canadian Indians in this country were laying claims to, the rulings would take decades to reach agreement, and even then the government would be hesitant to take any legal action that might upset the chiefs!

    • You have one delusional sense of history my friend. Actually, you have 0 knowledge of history by the sounds of it.

    • Well, nailrman…you most certainly didn’t nail this one! You do sound like a real ignorant cad!

  6. ““I guess the good of the many, in this particular case, outweighs the good of the few,” Norlock continued”

    Actually in this case the good of the many (the taxpayer) should outweigh the good of the few (politicians and DND employees seeking to be attached to the “Big” project).

    • Wow…

      What are you trying to say fred?

      • What he’s saying fred is that the people, being the many, outweigh the needs of the few; the politicians!

        • You obviously don’t know fred’s history of posting nonsense.

  7. Odd, a whole swath of posts seems to have disappeared, leaving only mine and those of the ever-amusing Emily.

    And now they’re back… strange.

  8. Quote-“The direct descendant of Capt. John Walden Meyers—a loyalist war hero
    and founder of nearby Belleville, Ont.—Frank farms a portion of the same
    plot of land given to the captain by King George III for his exemplary
    service during the American Revolution. (Ironically enough, Capt. Meyers
    was the 18th-century version of a special-forces commando, a crack spy
    and daring soldier most famous for leading a late-night raid on the home
    of U.S. general. To patriot children, he was the bogeyman. If you don’t
    behave, their mothers would say, Capt. Meyers “will come and eat you.”)
    Signed in May 1798, nearly 70 years before Canadian Confederation, the
    Crown land patent assigned the property to the Meyers clan “forever.”

    what part of this didn’t they (the Government,the local MP, and those locals who want the money instead of the pride) get? They local money injection is not going to happen, the Military is winding down.

    The JTF is definitely not in need of expansion, nor is Trenton the logical base for it.

    • To reiterate: someone needs to look at Rick Norlock’s campaign donors and ‘friends,’ You will find a local contractor who wants the base job–buildings, etc.

      • But that can’t possibly be. Corporate donations/pay-offs are illegal and the $1,100 limit on legal donations isn’t enough to justify the risk of selling a favor. Besides, Conservatives only display the epitome of ethical behavior.

        • I appreciate your timely sarcasm aimed at Norlock, and indirectly at the Conservatives who are in the process of downing their support for the forces via “trimming the excess”. Though it might be too late to save Frank Meyers farm it should not deter the thrust of the investigation into the backroom deals that undermined the historic contribution of this property. The entire area is a core Loyalist region whose historic worth should not be abrogated for some shekkels.

          • Direct donations aside, there are lots of loopholes that facilitation payments can go through. Is Mr Norlock getting discount renovations on a house? Is a private sector, post-political job offered? Look at Jim Prentice, who got a gig at the CIBC, working for his old friend Li Ka Shing (a mobbed-up Chinese billionaire). It may be time for CanRev to audit Norlock.

    • “The JTF is definitely not in need of expansion, nor is Trenton the logical base for it.”

      Why don’t they need to expand and why isn’t Trenton the logical base?

  9. As I read through all the previous comments on this, I’m absolutely disgusted at the amount of people only considering the dollar value Frank and his family have been offered. I guess you all have always expected the world to just jump up and do everything for you all your lives. Yes, money helps make life easier but it doesn’t make a person happy, in fact it can make you more miserable. If I had the choice to be rich and not have my roots or be the normal working class and scrape by but I still have my roots, my memories, the years of hard work that has turned that farm into what it is today, family generations of work, I would choose the work and the roots. All the money produces is fake friends who want something for nothing.

  10. We`re a military family and we feel that this is so completey wrong what our Gov`t is doing. They are becoming less and less concerned with the public that they serve, as well as the men and women who serve in the DND. It`s all about money in their pockets and not much else! Shame on them!!!!!

    • And yet those who serve and those who they ignore still continue to support them and vote them into office.

  11. Just as all of us whose families predate confederation, Frank gets screwed out of aboriginal rights but also out of land to which he can provide proof of title and which he has earned a living his whole. Unlike the so called natives, most of whose claims are honoured and came out of the bottom of a whiskey bottle on the day after they got their welfare cheques.

  12. He is why I decided not to work for the taxes of it. Government has far too much control over our lives for our own good. Just a mater of time before governments crews you.

    I worked, paid huge taxes for the government then I became disabled. Only reason I can keep my home is because of me, as government has proved useless. Our social programs are a ruse, just enough for utter poverty while politicians live the life of corruption and the dirty deals.

    But for now, as long as taxes don’t creep up too much I can keep my home because I counted on my self in saving/investing in good times and didn’t rely on government BS. But I now believe taxation is modern day slavery as I realize how little good Ottawa really does for productive Canadians.

    But most are busy working too hard for the left overs government leaves us with to see the truth.

    Government owns us!!! Be it the man above, or you, governemtn owns you. And if not yet burned, wait until you are older….it is coming your way….even CPP is being devalued against inflation and basic deduction increases are well below real inflation as tax table creep owns more of your labours that ever before.

  13. the problem here is that most of you don’t know that Canada is a privately owned foreign corporation and NOT A COUNTRY, they are de fact , have no rights to the land and actually stealing the land, they have not signed anything so anything they send frank Meyers, is void. frank Meyers never signed anything, they govt has not come to take his land yet, as it has no legal authority to do so, they are just waiting for Meyers to flinch.

  14. I can’t believe the government would stoop as low as they
    did on this one. I know how the land development process works, but Canada is
    still under partial British Rule and any land given by the King should be
    exempt from government theft! There is a military base in North Bay that is
    mostly vacant now due to downsizing. The runway is big enough to land any plane
    they have, and there are enough empty barracks to house hundreds of soldiers. If
    it weren’t for the greed of the government (on a few levels) they would leave
    the land given by the King in the hands of the family it was promised to. It’s sickening
    to see the way our countries’ leaders are wasting money the way they are just
    to line their pockets. They are creating jobs sure, but only till the base is
    built, then the construction jobs are gone and the military will staff the rest
    themselves. Not only will the jobs created disappear, but a piece of very
    historic and important land will be stolen and destroyed. I don’t know about
    you, but I can’t eat bullets!

    • Yep, sure, the government should reopen a vacant airbase as a cost of a couple billion dollars. Because that’s the best way to show they’re not greedy – by wasting taxpayer money just so a bunch of clueless people will stop whining about one old man getting paid a million dollars to move. Good plan.

  15. Grow farms
    not afb’s

    • The Air Force Base is already there…..

  16. All I see in the comments is people making decent points and then two morons trolling every single comment they disagree with. Sad really. Seen them on quite a few articles on here too. Really hampers the productive discussions when someone is that self absorbed.

  17. OK people, he’s not getting kicked out of his home, he’s just losing his farmland, which isn’t employing his kin, at a very good price. And at 85, you might as well call it a generous retirement package because farming is hard on a young body, and I doubt he is doing much farming. Media is sensationalizing a man so that they can paint the gov’t an ugly colour, because ‘local man wins lottery without buying a ticket’ doesn’t make a good headline

  18. Ploughshares into swords.

  19. I read the article and all I see is: Ontario is losing more agricultural land for ever. Can we count on India or Pakistan to feed us when they cant even feed their own people who come here in throves? Is this a choice of national security or starving to death? Wynne is supposed to have the agricultural portfolio. Isnt she doing something?

    • Suggesting that Canada has to worry about a lack of farmland is like suggesting that Saudi Arabia has to worry about a lack of sand.

  20. Save a mans farm who creates food to make people healthy or support the military who abondonnes the soldiers who served in afghanistan who are suffering. I chose the farmer.


  22. Our government takes whatever they want at whatever cost.I wonder how much Crown Land is in Canada.Land that we pay for…But land that the government owes.

  23. Free country…what a joke! Democracy??!! No! This country has become pretty much the same as any two bit, tin-pot dictator’s domain, in which he can do anything he wants. we can thank Trudeau for taking away our rights to property! Look at all the land he expropriated for Pickering and for Mirabelle…a huge white elephant! He stole a lot of farm land then. Of course we don’t need farms in this country either…we can just import all our food…Monsanto and all, and hope for the best when it comes to GM foods and higher prices! Without our own agriculture, farming countries will hold a gun to our heads!!

  24. i am not surprised with this dictatorship in ottawa

  25. Expropriation laws in our country must evolve, why do the needs for many in our 3rd
    millennium allow our government to still impose an unjust act of law on the few ?
    Since expropriation is by definition a “forcible” taking of land yet in our society
    forcible acts are considered illegal.
    Furthermore if our government would attempt expropriation of land outside of our country
    it could be considered an act of war yet deemed acceptable when this forcible act is imposed on our own citizens of Canada. Expropriation laws in our country must evolve !

    • Oh yeah. Paying someone 15% more than what their land is worth is completely unjust. Damn that evil government and it’s horrible laws. Next thing you know they’ll be forcing people to take free health-care and making kids learn sciency stuff at public schools. It’s about time good God-Fearing Canadians stood up to them!

      • It doesn’t matter what percentage he is given to sell his land, the bottom line is he doesn’t want to sell it. And in an ethical country, he shouldn’t have to sell it. The fact that a government can forcibly take someone’s land from them is akin to theft, no matter the dollar amount.

        • Sheer nonsense. You’re living in your own little dream-world, Karen. All the highway systems, the railroads, the airports, municipal buildings, and power grids were built over what was once private land. If people like you were in charge, none of that would have ever been possible. There would always be some stubborn nitwit refusing to move, or some profiteering pig demanding billions of dollars for a tiny chunk of land.

          Calling this “theft” is as idiotic as calling taxes “theft”. You live in a society governed by an elected central authority. As part of that society you accept certain impositions on your rights and freedoms. If you don’t like it you can move into the wilderness, and live out your life in the only way you’ll ever have complete freedom: by being utterly alone.

  26. Remember when we were in school and we sand “Oh Canada” and we felt so proud of our country. I do not feel that pride any more and I suggest that Harper and his cronies are making millions of other Canadians feel the same way,.

  27. How many times has the government seized the land of a big oil company “for the greater good”? The Government takes what it wants and expects people to be happy about it because they throw in things like “its essential to the safety of….” or “this goes a long way to helping Canada…” or statements of that nature, but its always little people paying the big costs and they rarely see the benefits.

  28. The issue with most of the followers is frank is an example. My in-laws have a 200 acres farm in south eastern Ontario and the have been harassed to sell so they could have a new dump. They are using prime farmland for things that should simply be somewhere else. Food supply is a growing concern yet people tend to look the other way. There’s more and more people here and they are taking away more and more farmland, one day the equation won’t balance and we will face a serious problem that even that task force won’t be able to help with. Not enough food for everyone

  29. Why does the Queen not step in and do something. How dare they take advantage of an elderly man. Makes me sick!

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