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Do you still support the political party you voted for in 2008?


 

 
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Do you still support the political party you voted for in 2008?

  1. Great. So far these poll results say that loyalty appears to be the prime criteria that decides how a vote will be cast.

  2. Great. So far these poll results say that loyalty appears to be the prime criteria that decides how a vote will be cast.

    • I know, but the poll answers are idiotic that way.

      I realize that internet polls are meaningless but COME ON. It couldn't just be yes or no? People who haven't changed their minds have to say that it was because they're "loyal". People who have changed their minds have to say it's because "times have changed"??? What if you haven't changed your mind because you still believe the same things you believed 3 years ago, and you still think the party that you voted for last time is the best party to reflect those beliefs? What if you've changed your mind because it turns out the party you supported last time doesn't really believe in what you thought they believed in, or aren't willing to implement policies that actually reflect those beliefs?

      These little Macleans polls are always weak but this one?

      Epic fail, Macleans. Epic fail.

      • Agreed.

        I feel a second career coming on…"Senior Internet Poll Creator", yeah, I like the sound of that.

      • I'm just annoyed at the assumption they're fostering that we should be voting for a party.

      • Right on, Lord!

    • Nothing wrong with loyalty. You should try it on.

  3. I know, but the poll answers are idiotic that way.

    I realize that internet polls are meaningless but COME ON. It couldn't just be yes or no? People who haven't changed their minds have to say that it was because they're "loyal". People who have changed their minds have to say it's because "times have changed"??? What if you haven't changed your mind because you still believe the same things you believed 3 years ago, and you still think the party that you voted for last time is the best party to reflect those beliefs? What if you've changed your mind because it turns out the party you supported last time doesn't really believe in what you thought they believed in, or aren't willing to implement policies that actually reflect those beliefs?

    These little Macleans polls are always weak but this one?

    Epic fail, Macleans. Epic fail.

  4. Agreed.

    I feel a second career coming on…"Senior Internet Poll Creator", yeah, I like the sound of that.

  5. I'm just annoyed at the assumption they're fostering that we should be voting for a party.

  6. What a stupid poll which reflects the mentality of the person who formed it.

  7. On polls like this it's better if you just ignore everything past the period.

  8. On polls like this it's better if you just ignore everything past the period.

    • Past the first period that is.

  9. Past the first period that is.

  10. We don't need the superfluous crap associated with the choices in our answer. Either "yes" or "no" or "maybe". The extra commentary may not be why I am voting for the same party – loyal?. This isn't the reason I am voting for the same party.

  11. We don't need the superfluous crap associated with the choices in our answer. Either "yes" or "no" or "maybe". The extra commentary may not be why I am voting for the same party – loyal?. This isn't the reason I am voting for the same party.

  12. Could the authors of these polls give just a few more minutes thought to it?

    Agreeing with LrdK.

    Epic fail.

  13. Could the authors of these polls give just a few more minutes thought to it?

    Agreeing with LrdK.

    Epic fail.

    • Same here. Too many of the polls I've read before in this magazine have been biased or giving the respondent too specific a choice.

      This one's a good example. I voted yes but the qualifier is both unnecessary and ascribing to the respondent a quality that he/she doesn't necessarily have.

  14. Definitely need a new poll writer.

  15. Definitely need a new poll writer.

  16. To those complaining about the admittedly poor quality of the poll writing: perhaps the polls are written to generate comments, and therfore traffic, rather than any meaningful “survey” results.

  17. To those complaining about the admittedly poor quality of the poll writing: perhaps the polls are written to generate comments, and therfore traffic, rather than any meaningful “survey” results.

  18. Say it, Ariadne, say it loudly and clearly!

  19. Say it, Ariadne, say it loudly and clearly!

  20. Same here. Too many of the polls I've read before in this magazine have been biased or giving the respondent too specific a choice.

    This one's a good example. I voted yes but the qualifier is both unnecessary and ascribing to the respondent a quality that he/she doesn't necessarily have.

  21. Non- partisan,

    I suppose that could very well be the case. I wouldn't be surprised since over the last year or two, I've noticed that Macleans has taken on the same kind of eye catcher as Global TV has been for too long. Get the attention of the viewer/reader by opening with a crisis or a carefully written crisis-constructing word or phrase. Maybe that's the best way to catch the ear/eye of the general public (and needed viewer/reader so that advertisers will continue to shove money in their direction – but I digress). If this is so, then that's both too bad and very sad.

    Now, as to the poll question. I voted yes. But to say that I vote for a political party 'cause "I'm nothing if not loyal" is overboard. I'm loyal to my wife, my family, my friends and, to an insufficient degree, my God.

    Loyalty to a political party? I've got more of a life than that.

  22. Non- partisan,

    I suppose that could very well be the case. I wouldn't be surprised since over the last year or two, I've noticed that Macleans has taken on the same kind of eye catcher as Global TV has been for too long. Get the attention of the viewer/reader by opening with a crisis or a carefully written crisis-constructing word or phrase. Maybe that's the best way to catch the ear/eye of the general public (and needed viewer/reader so that advertisers will continue to shove money in their direction – but I digress). If this is so, then that's both too bad and very sad.

    Now, as to the poll question. I voted yes. But to say that I vote for a political party 'cause "I'm nothing if not loyal" is overboard. I'm loyal to my wife, my family, my friends and, to an insufficient degree, my God.

    Loyalty to a political party? I've got more of a life than that.

  23. Your question includes the word "loyal"; therefore it is difficult to respond since loyalty has nothing to do in several cases.
    Rationality would be more appropriate since the only credible leader in this case is Stephen Harper.

  24. Your question includes the word "loyal"; therefore it is difficult to respond since loyalty has nothing to do in several cases.
    Rationality would be more appropriate since the only credible leader in this case is Stephen Harper.

  25. Actually loyalty would be for ones local M.P.[if he/she has done a good job representing the area] and not the Party or leader.

  26. I think the results of this poll are very revealing, since they lead to believe that nothing much will change by this election and we will end up with another minority government. My only hope is that the Libs and the NDP will have enough representation to form a coalition government and get rid of Harper once and for all. They have coalition governments in the UK and Astralia, why not here?

  27. I think the results of this poll are very revealing, since they lead to believe that nothing much will change by this election and we will end up with another minority government. My only hope is that the Libs and the NDP will have enough representation to form a coalition government and get rid of Harper once and for all. They have coalition governments in the UK and Astralia, why not here?

    • because, canadians do not want a coalition.

  28. Ya, bad question, as usual. We don’t need an election. The economy is good considering the circumstances and good economy means jobs and money for the people and the gov ernment . The oppostion screamed for stimulus then complained about what they got. The Liberals would have put in $100 billion if they were in power. Keep them out. “Contempt of parliament”, what a joke. Every time someone there opens their mouth they are trying to mislead the other sides. $300 million for an election. What a waste of money right now. Layton is to blame. Does he think he may lead the next government or does he just want to brown-nose the Libs if they manage a minority. I hope they both get slaughtered. It is time for a Conservative majority so some things can get done. If they blow it, vote them out next time. The minority situation isn’t working too well. Hope it doesn’t happen again.

  29. Ya, bad question, as usual. We don’t need an election. The economy is good considering the circumstances and good economy means jobs and money for the people and the gov ernment . The oppostion screamed for stimulus then complained about what they got. The Liberals would have put in $100 billion if they were in power. Keep them out. “Contempt of parliament”, what a joke. Every time someone there opens their mouth they are trying to mislead the other sides. $300 million for an election. What a waste of money right now. Layton is to blame. Does he think he may lead the next government or does he just want to brown-nose the Libs if they manage a minority. I hope they both get slaughtered. It is time for a Conservative majority so some things can get done. If they blow it, vote them out next time. The minority situation isn’t working too well. Hope it doesn’t happen again.

    • Fully agree – time to bring back Conservative majority

  30. Right on, Lord!

  31. Not loyalty, lack of a better choice

  32. Not loyalty, lack of a better choice

  33. Yes I am voting for the same party. I have voted in many elections and I have stopped looking at my local candidate. I simply vote for the party with the least distasteful leader because all the power in with the leader. I no longer believe we have full democracy. Each election, provincial or federal, we elect a new dictator.

  34. Yes I am voting for the same party. I have voted in many elections and I have stopped looking at my local candidate. I simply vote for the party with the least distasteful leader because all the power in with the leader. I no longer believe we have full democracy. Each election, provincial or federal, we elect a new dictator.

    • Rather pathetic isn't it?

  35. The only good thing about this election Is we may be rid of Michael Ignatieff and Jack Layton and no I'm not a conservative, but I think I would rather slash my wrists then have to vote for Iggy. Hopefully he falls on is duff and runs back to the good old USA

  36. The only good thing about this election Is we may be rid of Michael Ignatieff and Jack Layton and no I'm not a conservative, but I think I would rather slash my wrists then have to vote for Iggy. Hopefully he falls on is duff and runs back to the good old USA

    • There seem to be a number of people like you.

      • I agree. Time to cut the crap and complaining. Lets all vote for one party,get a majority, then we can hold one person accountable for what ever he does. No more pussy footing around. As it stands now they keep blaming each other, so people of Canada lets go for one party at a time. Its hard to have three bosses,when when they all have different ideas.

        • Crap is'n that what comes out when Harper speaks

  37. I have always voted for the party that I thought would be best for Canada at certain times. Never stayed with only one party. When Trudeau got us into debt, I voted for the Conservatives and look what they did, they doubled the debt. Then I voted for the Liberals and they had to do what I expected from the conservatives. Now since the Harper Government was in power, we are back to our old Conservatives tricks and we are back in debt even deeper. So, I like to shake things up for just 4 years. I will try for the NDP and see if they can do a better job with our tax money. After that we might need the Liberals again to clean up. But I would never trust the Conservatives again, not for a third time.

  38. I have always voted for the party that I thought would be best for Canada at certain times. Never stayed with only one party. When Trudeau got us into debt, I voted for the Conservatives and look what they did, they doubled the debt. Then I voted for the Liberals and they had to do what I expected from the conservatives. Now since the Harper Government was in power, we are back to our old Conservatives tricks and we are back in debt even deeper. So, I like to shake things up for just 4 years. I will try for the NDP and see if they can do a better job with our tax money. After that we might need the Liberals again to clean up. But I would never trust the Conservatives again, not for a third time.

    • The NDP? Good with tax money? Are you kidding? All they want is more of it. To them, it's not "your" tax money, it's theirs, and it's a gift if they let you keep any of it.

    • I more then likely vote NDP for our MP Joe Comartin does a good job for his constituents , but I don't think the party will do well nationally, and I personally don't like Layton.

    • the conservative are cleaning up the mess that the liberals made. There as actually been quite a few liberal prime ministers since Trudeau so i don't think the conservatives are fully to blame for the problems. But everyone is free to express their opinions. The reason we have so much debt is because of the recession. Most governments spend during these times in oder to give things like jobs to the people. Everyone however, should vote for what best works for them. I would strongly suggest that everyone becomes educated in the platforms of the political parities.

  39. Canada is not an island in world affairs. The recession hit every other industrial nation harder than Canada. But, to resume an even keel in the country's affairs, thinking people prefer not to have an election yet, but to concentrate our resources and focus on the economy, job creation and a reasonable budget. Which was presented. The current show is all about politicking of the most juvenile kind. Not a statesman in the opposition bunch, doing what is good for the country.

  40. Canada is not an island in world affairs. The recession hit every other industrial nation harder than Canada. But, to resume an even keel in the country's affairs, thinking people prefer not to have an election yet, but to concentrate our resources and focus on the economy, job creation and a reasonable budget. Which was presented. The current show is all about politicking of the most juvenile kind. Not a statesman in the opposition bunch, doing what is good for the country.

  41. The NDP? Good with tax money? Are you kidding? All they want is more of it. To them, it's not "your" tax money, it's theirs, and it's a gift if they let you keep any of it.

  42. There seem to be a number of people like you.

  43. I more then likely vote NDP for our MP Joe Comartin does a good job for his constituents , but I don't think the party will do well nationally, and I personally don't like Layton.

  44. I agree with the one who said a simple yes or no is how the question should read – loyalty may not have anything to do with how we vote.

  45. I agree with the one who said a simple yes or no is how the question should read – loyalty may not have anything to do with how we vote.

  46. I agree. Time to cut the crap and complaining. Lets all vote for one party,get a majority, then we can hold one person accountable for what ever he does. No more pussy footing around. As it stands now they keep blaming each other, so people of Canada lets go for one party at a time. Its hard to have three bosses,when when they all have different ideas.

  47. The party shouldn't come first, it should be the Policies they stand for.

  48. The party shouldn't come first, it should be the Policies they stand for.

  49. always vote 4 the ideology of the party–on ly a majority government will get anything done– so help us all–if people vote— in Iggy & –or Layton–socializem does not work– & Iggy wants minority one to rule over-which doesn't work either—–Harper has served us well–knows economics— considering the minority he had 2 deal with– could have had a lot more bills passed–if!!! so think !!!! Layton is coming on strong–besides all his surgeries– did anyone notice– one of them might be a "face lift–anyone"?

  50. always vote 4 the ideology of the party–on ly a majority government will get anything done– so help us all–if people vote— in Iggy & –or Layton–socializem does not work– & Iggy wants minority one to rule over-which doesn't work either—–Harper has served us well–knows economics— considering the minority he had 2 deal with– could have had a lot more bills passed–if!!! so think !!!! Layton is coming on strong–besides all his surgeries– did anyone notice– one of them might be a "face lift–anyone"?

  51. I think all Canadians should go all out and cast their vote to bring in a majority government i.e. the Conserative, Harper is the best Prime Minister we have had and should be back with a thumping victory, to avoid these elections every few years…..no no Liberals or NDP

    MN

  52. I think all Canadians should go all out and cast their vote to bring in a majority government i.e. the Conserative, Harper is the best Prime Minister we have had and should be back with a thumping victory, to avoid these elections every few years…..no no Liberals or NDP

    MN

  53. Fully agree – time to bring back Conservative majority

  54. because, canadians do not want a coalition.

  55. Rather pathetic isn't it?

  56. Please ask:

    Would you vote for a Coalition of Lib/NDP/Green/Bloc…?

    Do you understand that "coalition" is not a dirty war but is practised in

    Israel and Britain … and in Canada in the 60s and Ontario in early 90s?

    Do you know that Coalitions are formed as part of a Democratic form of government all over the world?

  57. Please ask:

    Would you vote for a Coalition of Lib/NDP/Green/Bloc…?

    Do you understand that "coalition" is not a dirty war but is practised in

    Israel and Britain … and in Canada in the 60s and Ontario in early 90s?

    Do you know that Coalitions are formed as part of a Democratic form of government all over the world?

    • There was no federal coalition in the 1960s.

      The only federal coalition since 1867 was during World War I.

      Pearson was 4 or 5 seats away from a Majority. He could usually count on the NDP to stay in office. There was no coalition.

      There was one surprise vote in 1968 that almost brought his govt down, while many of his cabinet ministers were away campaigning in the leadership race to succeed him.

  58. I've only ever voted NDP and Liberal in my life.

    Anxious to finally get this monkey off my back and vote Conservative.

  59. I've only ever voted NDP and Liberal in my life.

    Anxious to finally get this monkey off my back and vote Conservative.

  60. test test

  61. test test

  62. There was no federal coalition in the 1960s.

    The only federal coalition since 1867 was during World War I.

    Pearson was 4 or 5 seats away from a Majority. He could usually count on the NDP to stay in office. There was no coalition.

    There was one surprise vote in 1968 that almost brought his govt down, while many of his cabinet ministers were away campaigning in the leadership race to succeed him.

  63. What kind of questions are these. Loyalty has asolutely nothing to do with it. Who writes these questions? It should read "Are you supporting the same party as you did the last time?" Yes or No!! Are your writers du
    mbing down or what?

  64. What kind of questions are these. Loyalty has asolutely nothing to do with it. Who writes these questions? It should read "Are you supporting the same party as you did the last time?" Yes or No!! Are your writers du
    mbing down or what?

  65. Nothing wrong with loyalty. You should try it on.

  66. Crap is'n that what comes out when Harper speaks

  67. last year, I vote NDP because I know that the Conservative have no change in my area because I want to deny the Liberal from winning. This time I will vote conservative hoping that Harper can win a majority party. It is no good for any government to have a minority party because nothing can be done for the country. Even worse is a coalition government especially with the NDP and the party in Quebec which have intention of seperating the country. With NDP, in no time the Canada would go bankrupt.

  68. the conservative are cleaning up the mess that the liberals made. There as actually been quite a few liberal prime ministers since Trudeau so i don't think the conservatives are fully to blame for the problems. But everyone is free to express their opinions. The reason we have so much debt is because of the recession. Most governments spend during these times in oder to give things like jobs to the people. Everyone however, should vote for what best works for them. I would strongly suggest that everyone becomes educated in the platforms of the political parities.

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