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It’s not enough to deter Bashar al-Assad. He must be defeated.

Barack Obama says he’ll seek approval of Congress for military action in Syria


 

AP Photo/SANA

Update: On Saturday afternoon, U.S. President Barack Obama said he will seek the approval of Congress to take military action against Syria of “limited duration and scope.”  The U.S. Congress is due to reconvene Sept. 9. “We cannot and will not take a blind eye,” Obama said in a speech from the Rose Garden.

U.S. President Barack Obama did not intend to commit his country to war when he vowed — several times since March 2012 — that the use of chemical weapons by Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad’s forces was a “red line” and that Assad would be “held accountable” were such weapons deployed.

Obama ran for office as the anti-war candidate. His brief escalation of  U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan must be seen as an anomaly against an international record that otherwise consists of seeking to limit foreign military entanglements.

It’s not that Obama is a pacifist opposed to lethal force when he believes American interests are at stake. He’s ordered more drone attacks against targets in Pakistan and elsewhere than his predecessor George W. Bush did. Bush was roundly condemned for the incarceration at Guantanamo Bay of Canadian Omar Khadr, captured during a firefight in Afghanistan when he was 15. On Obama’s watch, 16-year-old American citizen Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, son of an al-Qaeda propagandist, died in a drone strike in Yemen.

But Obama has tried to frame his foreign policy as restrained, a salve after the reckless adventurism of the Bush era. “The tide of war is receding,” he has often said, a self-congratulatory boast that bears little resemblance to reality; U.S. absence from wars doesn’t make them disappear.

Now, however, Obama finds himself and America about to join a war, precisely because Assad called his bluff. Assad’s regime had used chemical weapons before last week. But the scale of this most recent attack — more than 1,400 dead, according to American intelligence — and the degree to which its horrors were documented, made it impossible for Obama not to respond and retain any credibility about red lines in the future.

It is hard not to compare the international reaction today to that on the eve of the Iraq war 10 years ago. America, led by a president who opposed the Iraq war, is once again trying to gather a coalition that will support and perhaps participate in its impending attack.

Britain was American’s staunchest ally in Iraq. Yesterday, it withdrew expected military support for action in Syria, following an unexpected defeat for Prime Minister David Cameron in the House of Commons. France, which led opposition to war in Iraq, now stands shoulder to shoulder with America. Secretary of State John Kerry today called France America’s “oldest ally” — a reference to America’s revolutionary war against the British some 225 years ago. That remark will sting in London.

The Poles, a fighting force in Iraq, are skipping Syria. Turkey, which refused to allow American troops to invade Iraq from its territory, will back the coming attack on Syria. Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who supported the invasion of Iraq from the opposition benches 10 years ago, supports military strikes against Syria, but Canada will not contribute militarily.

The war in Iraq, and Western fears about prolonged involvement in another Middle East war, will also shape the nature of coming attack on Syria. Washington has indicated that the strikes will be limited in duration and scope, and will be strictly in response to the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons. The options we are considering are not about regime change,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

This is a strategically flawed decision. Those of us who supported the war in Iraq imagined a better outcome when the war was over: a country free of a murderous tyrant and with a chance at a brighter future. One can argue this was naïve, or that the war was bungled. But at least there was a goal.

What exactly are Obama’s goals in Syria? He is proposing interrupting a bully who is beating up a weaker adversary — oh, screw the metaphor; a dictator gassing children — to hit him once and then retreat to the sidelines.

What will that accomplish? Deterrence, maybe, but only against massive chemical attacks. We’ve already established that the small-scale use of chemical weapons doesn’t merit a robust response; nor do attacks with conventional weapons. Days after the chemical attack in Damascus, regime jets dropped a napalm-like substance on a schoolyard in the north of the country, with results that are almost too horrific to watch. Why should that atrocity generate any less revulsion? A Syrian opposition member I spoke with welcomed Western intervention but wondered why the 100,000 who died before last week did not trigger it.

A limited attack will not change the course of the war. But it will link those who take part in it with the armed opposition to Assad, ensuring that, should Assad prevail, they will share in the opposition’s defeat, without doing anything to prevent it.

Then there are the moral problems with the limited strikes that appear in the works. Who is going to die? It is possible Assad himself is a reachable target. Perhaps some of the military leaders responsible for the massacre can be located. But the more likely victims are young conscripts and, inevitably, civilians. How can their deaths be justified, if the attacks do nothing to hasten Assad’s fall and prevent further slaughter at the hands of his henchmen?

Western countries should have taken firmer steps to bring down Assad years ago — including greater aid to rebels, and, as necessary, air strikes, a no-fly zone, or protected safe havens. Everything cited as reasons not to get involved — most notably the increasingly jihadist nature of the armed opposition — has gotten worse as we’ve sat on our hands.

Assad’s depravity had now reached a new low. He doesn’t need to be punished or deterred. He needs to be defeated — or at the very least forced to negotiate his withdrawal from power (followed by eventual prosecution for crimes against humanity). That’s why we should bomb Syria. And we should conduct the sort of campaign necessary to ensure that happens.


 

It’s not enough to deter Bashar al-Assad. He must be defeated.

  1. “One can argue this was naïve, or that the [Iraq] war was bungled.”

    Yes, one certainly can argue both. One can further argue that people who support dissolving the only governments that very complex and very non-Western states like Iraq and Syria have are so stupid and irresponsible as to basically be evil. One can go on to argue that they should probably stop opining about how what we really need is a big dose of chaos in a land armed to the teeth and absolutely quivering with sectarian and ethnic tensions, not to mention an ongoing civil war. One just might argue that.

    • If non-Western government, regardless of “complexity,” means indiscriminately attacking its own men, women, and children with conventional and chemical weapons, then “Western” government – complete with representation, security, and freedom – is a moral necessity

      • Would it be better for you if it attacked somebody else’s men, women, and children? What if, instead of chemicals, it was wholesome airstrikes, white phosphorous (the non-chemical kind, like Israel uses), artillery shells, and good, old-fashioned bullets? So the lesson is: 1.) if you’re going to use chemicals, make sure it’s on somebody else’s people, and 2.) you can kill a few thousand at a crack, civilian women and children included, as long as you use non-chemical, white-phosphorous, bullets, missiles, and artillery shells.

      • Unavailable necessities are the most annoying, aren’t they?

    • In Iraq, chaos is better than Saddam. Ask any Iraqi…even the dead ones. Also your “land armed to teeth” is misleading. Syria is heavily armed precisely because of Assad. Syria, like Iraq, is not a real country. It’s a mistake of UK and France post WW1. Those mistakes need to be fixed. That can only done by “chaos” and letting the Syrian and Iraqi people sort it out – on a level playground without chemical warfare – not by dictators.

      • “Even the dead ones,” that’s really hilarious. Might want to ask an actual Iraqi about the vast benefits of invasion and anarchy: http://riverbendblog.blogspot.ca/

        • That’s somebody’s blog, opinion. In Syria, Alawites say they are fighting terrorists, and they’re the 10-15%. So that means the 85-90% are terrorists? That’s a factual tidbit, like in Iraq where before the invasion, Saddam had killed ~4,000 Kurds in a gas attack. N. Iraq now is ran by Kurds who have a booming economy. What’s going on in Baghdad is caused directly by Iranians trying to control Iraq, not a because of the US invasion. Bottom line here is, Iraq is free from a dictator but are now fighting Iranians to maintain that freedom. Until Iraq gets stronger, this will continue. Syrians are doing the same, fighting the Iranian/Russian proxy government. Everybody says, it’s a regional issue. It is not. It’s a Russian/US proxy war. Russia is already fully committed – arms, money, diplomatic cover – but US is reluctant because it’s run by people like you who either can’t seem to grasp the situation or are easily influenced by propaganda. The Middle East mess was created 100 years ago by UK, US, and France in order to exploit it. That exploitation has created weakness which Russia, dictators, and fundamentalists have further exploited. The only way out is local bloodletting without outside interference – and that means taking out Assad who is a Russian puppet. The responsibility falls on the US, UK, France, since they are the ones who setup this mess in the first place. …or let it go back to what it was – Turkish governance.

          • “What’s going on in Baghdad is caused directly by Iranians trying to control Iraq, not a because of the US invasion.”
            It’s true that Iran now has a freer hand in Iraq but, who created and left the power vacuum in Iraq? The fight for freedom, or whatever you want to call it, is against the US-installed, and maintained, ‘leadership’, and smaller groups, some possibly supported by Iran, fighting for power.

          • Iraq will eventually break up, with Iranians controlling Baghdad, but Mosul and Basra will remain independent. If in the future, Iraq wants to reunite, North and South can easily squeeze the Iranians out of the Middle. Russian or Iranian meddling won’t be able to sway all of Iraq their way. What G.W. Bush did, unwittingly, is set a chain of events in motion that exposed the Iranian and Russian meddling in the Middle East (American meddling was obvious) and now the genie is out of the bottle. There is no turning back. We, as the US, need to pick a side. Since it is almost impossible to pick the Russian/Iranian side or to be agnostic, we either have the fill the vacuum that you speak of, or own the Middle East. As Powell said “You break it, you buy it.” – that does not mean GW, it means the US. We broke it 100 years ago.

  2. So many of you rejoiced when Osama bin laden was killed. The world celebrated when Saddam Hussein, who was responsible for gassing some 5,000 Kurd’s, was finally caught and executed for that and other war crimes. But all of a sudden you start moralizing about having to deal with a thug just as bad as those two Sure. Of course. Whatever you say.

    • Actually, some of us thought most of that was a pig in a poke, just like this Syria frame job.
      What kind of person ‘rejoices’ over murder?

      • What? You didn’t watch Americans react to Barack Obama’s announcement from the Whitehouse that Osama bin laden was killed by the Seal 6 team? Where were you when people got the news that Hussein was executed? Were you and Emy busy covering the Syrian frame up job? LOL

        • You’re seeing things that aren’t there. Did you pick the wrong day to dial back your anti-psychotic?

          • Come on JW that’s an old one. Can’t you be any more original than that?

  3. What a surprise. The article is authored by McLean’s Israel shill. People the world over know Israel’s false flag finger prints are all over this filthy, stinking, pig in a poke that Obama and Kerry are committed to buying. The lobby obviously controls them – the other billion of us, not so much. BDS.

    • 100% Correct. Once Israel got word of a consequence to US attacks on Syria, a phone call was made to AIPAC. AIPAC made a phone call to the Oval office and now the strike is “delayed.”

      • Israeli ‘intelligence’, pre-Iraq…

        “There is no question, NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER, that Saddam is seekingk [sic], and is workingk [sic], and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons. NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER.”
        – Binyamin Netanyahu, to Senate Sub-Committee.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc

        Anything else, Jeff?

  4. Curiouser and curiouser……

    Syrian rebels admit to being behind chemical weapons attack

    Members of the Syrian rebel movement have admitted that they were behind the Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack near Damascus, Minnesota’s Mint Press News reported on Thursday.

    According to the report, the chemicals were provided by Saudi Prince
    Bandar bin Sultan, who “has been at the very heart of the push for war
    by the U.S. against Assad.”

    http://www.examiner.com/article/syrian-rebels-admit-to-being-behind-chemical-weapons-attack

    • If you look at Assad’s Syria, there are women in bikinis swimming in hotel pools and having coffee with their husbands half naked. So the US wants to topple this regime and bring in a heavily Islamic regime?

      • Wikileaked jokes by Assad’s crowd….

        One e-mail from a female adviser depicts an image of a crying child in a
        shopping mall who has lost his mother. Trying to reunite them the shop
        assistant asks the boy for a description of his mother. The little boy
        replies ‘I don’t know sir I have never seen her!!’ and the joke jumps to an
        image of a woman fully shrouded in black pushing a shopping cart.

        On January 22 the President’s father-in-law Fawaz Akhras allegedly forwarded a ‘British wedding photograph’ showing 24 newly wed Muslim couples, the women all wearing white burkas, their faces covered. “I just hope, for their sake, that each husband goes home with the right table cloth” the joke reads.

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9169803/Syria-Bashar-al-Assad-joked-about-religion-of-most-of-population-emails-show.html

        So why the US would want to remove Assad, and let the same religious takeover as occurred in Egypt happen in Syria……..?

        • Jeff is just out for an evening troll, hoping to deliver a few swats from his anti-Semitism paint brush.

          • I’m not familiar with Jeff….but I’d say this ‘crisis’ has effectively changed the channel from the NSA spying story

          • Yes, they changed the subject all right. Doesn’t it strike you as a little odd Assad’s emails, expressing disdain for ‘his own people’, the ones he supposedly gassed, would find their way into a UK paper?

          • It was part of the Wikileaks dump….there were lots of juicy things in there. The date was March 2012.

          • Nothing like a good conspiracy theory to bring out the wingnut element. I suppose that the moon landing was done on a secret movie set by NASA, that the Holocaust never happened, and the Israeli were responsible for poisoning Yasser Arafat after they planted millions of dollars into one of the many off-shore accounts that he had around the world in order to prove that he was stealing millions from his own people.
            Oh, and I almost forgot. JFK’s assassination was carried out by Fidel Castro, and that 9/11 was simply a plot by the CIA to drag America into a war with the Middle East.
            If I’ve missed anything I’m sure that you two wiz kids will let me know.

          • Please tell me EXACTLY what I’ve written that you dispute and we’ll have at it. Leave your asinine straw men twisting in the breeze and acquaint me with the errors in what I’ve stated. I’ll get the popcorn…

          • Popcorn JW? Asinine? Straw men? Are you into the joy juice again? Whew! Maybe it’s time to go back into therapy.

          • That’s what I thought… you’re completely out of your depth and have nothing of substance to contribute. Common simpletons like you bore me. We’re done here. Have a nice day.

          • What! You say you also saw the little green men they found at Roswell when you were working at Area 51? You’re more delusional than I thought.

          • What you missed is your wake-up coffee…..you’re on the wrong site.

          • Yes. I stand corrected. It was all the work of a secular Iranian theologian called Sheihk Hasan al-bin-Alawishy, who with the help of the Saudi’s, secretly working with al-qeada, supplied the rebels with the chemical weapons so they could help Assad with his extermination of his own people, who according to one source, have wives who are just a bunch of shameless harlots given to lounging around swimming pools in bikinis.
            If, however, I’ve left anything out. I’m sure that one or another of you will step up and fill in the blanks.

          • Have more coffee. Better yet just go away. Ciao

          • That’s quite the pot-and-kettle statement. Your own sound at least as anti-Semitic…

      • The US wants to ferment a war with Iran – all to do with protecting the hegemony of the US Dollar. Syria and Iran have a mutual defence pact.

        Putin has just trashed the US assessment of basis of the gas attack. There is a lot at stake for the Russians and Chinese so this may be the trigger fora wider conflict. I think Putin plays hardball.

        • One often uses yeast to “foment” fermentation. You could look it up.

      • http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/08/actual-video-footage-of-syrian-rebels-launching-chemical-weapons.html

        Yep, given Obama be a Sunni Muslim, no surprise he is supporting 9/11 like Sunni terrorists in Syria as Assad is Shia Islam.

        Only reason Obama went after Osama is he had too, A few days earlier his targeting of Gadhafi killed a bunch of kids and non-participating families was getting a ramp of heat against assassinations. And Obama could be embarrassed if someone in Congress stood up and asked Obama if he has known where Osama was, why no action for 8 months? So getting Osama was a political necessity.

        People need to ask Obama why he is supporting al Qaeda 9/11 type terrorists in Syria.

  5. What a lousy false flag this was…

    We spend billions on our secret services and should demand credible, realistic and convincing false flag set ups – so we can move in and make a proper job of smashing as many countries, stealing their assets and killing as many innocent civilians as possible.

    This Assad is using chemical weapons on his own people blather, is a load of transparent nonsense and demonstrates just how lacking in creativity the department of the dark arts has become. They had it easy with 911, Iraq and Libya. They need to sharpen their game or we’ll never get to Iran and WW3 before the economy collapses.

    Israel should sack Obama and replace him with someone more reliable to get the job done.

  6. The rebel Supreme Military Council projects three days of American and, without actually saying so, French and possibly Gulf State cruise missiles and other weaponry to hit key Syrian government forces and installations — three days of likely 24 hour attacks.

    You can bet they have been told in advance and given a rough outline of targets they can easily overrun after the targets have been hammered.

    If Assad is a stupid coward, he will just duck for cover and hope he isn’t killed during the air attacks, or afterward when the rebels overrun wrecked government installations. If Assad were a warrior he would counterattack during the assault, or even, in the next few minutes, order a massive preemptive strike. But Assad, western educated, isn’t that type of Muslim chief, you know, the ones willing to die for their cause. Nope, he’s a tough talking SOB who attacks the weak but a coward against armed opponents with courage.

    • Great blog! Thanks for the link.

  7. And in summing up the usual crowd of Maclean’s armchair geopolitical experts have found a way to rationalize why we should turn a blind eye to the mass murder of unarmed civilians. Yes. Of course. Whatever you say.

    • Uh huh. And Iraq was responsible for the attack on the twin towers. And Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

      I’m not buying some of the conspiracies being put forth by some of the others on here. But if the US is so convinced, and have enough evidence to justify a military excursion, then why not instead pull another extraction mission like they supposedly attempted with bin Laden and try the guy for war crimes at the Hague? Cheaper and less deadly than bombing the crap out of the country.

      • Dead men tell no tales. That’s probably why the point man on Seal team 6, the one who wasn’t interviewed by 60 Minutes, the one who was actually responsible for putting two well placed rounds into the Saudi terrorist, did so.
        Considering the fact that Assad’s so well protected, an extraction would be a non starter. Bombing the shit out of him makes for good press coverage, kudos for the President, and sends a signal to the others. What’s left of Syria, the areas where the Syrian dictator lives, should be fair game.

      • Keith:

        You accuse me of anti-Semitism. Who do you think is behind this? Syria and Iran have a mutual defense pact – if one is attacked, the other is obliged to engage. Who has been telling the world Iran is really, really close to having a nuclear bomb for 30 years? After Syria destroys itself from within, like what’s happening in Iraq, who will be in a position to expand? Do you think it’s an accident that Egypt is in turmoil, with no end in sight? Look at a map.

        Israel is not about ‘Jews’, it’s about fascists hiding behind Jews. You need to spit out the Kool-Aid and read something that was not produced by the corporate media promoting war.

        Here’s but one example of Israel’s unbelievable sense of entitlement:

        Headline: “Attack already, Obama, we want to like you for a change”
        Sub-headline:
        “Mr. Israeli has gone from being a fierce critic of Barack Obama to a conditional fan – the condition being an attack on Syria.”

        Source: The Israeli daily Haaretz
        http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.544610

        Prominent ‘anti-Semites’:
        Stephen M. Walt, Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international affairs at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.
        John J. Mearsheimer (born December 1947) is an American professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago.

        Walt writes about ME Policy at foreignpolicy.com

        Walt and Mearsheimer co-wrote:
        The Israel Lobby, the London Review of Books
        http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby
        Their book on the topic was a NYT Best Seller.
        Pro-Israel groups couldn’t mount a fact-based argument, so they accused them of anti-Semitism. Read Alan Dershowitz’s response, which consists of nothing more than emotional rhetoric.

  8. Christ, you conspiracy theorists need to get out and read a bit more. There is irrefutable evidence that the Assad government was behind the chemical weapons’ strike. His chemical weapons specialists were out days before in the area, and nearing the attack, were told to put on their gas masks. I can go on, but it’s probably not worth it trying to speak through the sand in your ears.

    • There is evidence. It could even be described as strong. As yet, it is not irrefutable.

    • There is also a report from an AP reporter that Prince Bandar bin Sultan delivered the weapons to the rebels to hand to their high command. The rebels didn’t know how to handle the weapon and they went off accidentally.

    • The gas masks were protection from the smell of bullshit.

  9. So why are you writing articles. Why haven’t you picked up an assault rifle and gone to Syria to fight, you know, like the idealists did in Spain in the thirties?

    Oh. You want someone else to fight. You are merely a propagandist.

    If it is important enough, let Obama and Kerry produce the evidence. Even Bush understood the need to produce the evidence, even though it was fabricated.

    If it as important as you and Obama claim, there is no need to hide behind classified evidence.

    And if it is as important as you said, a few Tomahawk missiles ain’t going to do the trick.

    Which gets us back to my first point. Why haven’t you picked up an assault rifle and become a mercenary if you think it is so important?

    Or it is important enough to send other people to die, and for other people to be killed, but it is not important enough for you to be one of those people.

    What exactly is the difference between children as collateral damage of a chemical weapons attack and children as collateral damage of a drone missile attack? What exactly is the difference between first responders killed responding to a chemical weapons attack, and first responders killed by a double-tapping followup drone missile?

    Is the Nobel Peace Prize Obama’s license to drop drone missiles on whoever he pleases, whenever he pleases?

  10. Syria is about oil. To isolate Iran, the Saudi’s and Americans want to reopen/build the pipeline from Kurdistan (Iraq will have to be partitioned) to Haifa. A big chunk of the world’s new oil supply is going to come from Kurdistan. The Sunni’s in Western Iraq and Syria ill have to be bought off, but with Kurdistan oil, there should be enough money to satisfy everyone.

    The side benefit is one takes out of Iran’s only allies, and perhaps is able to take out Hezbollah also. It would free Kurdish oil from Iraqi Shia influence and control, and hence Iranian influence also.

    In the middle east (see Egypt), the United States only cares about oil, not human rights or freedom.

    Yeah. Assad is a bad guy. but he was a good enough bad guy for the Americans to send Arar there to be tortured. Just like Saddam was a good enough bad guy in the eighties for the Americans to protect when he was gassing the Kurds.

    It would be easier to justify going to war if the powers that be would just tell us the geopolitical truths, and the selfish reasons we need for these wars.

    i just hate the lies. Just tell us the awful truth, and human nature is sufficiently evil and selfish that the majority would be willing to support all the horrible stuff they want to do.

    The victors get to write history anyways. Tell the fanciful stories then.

  11. the world is off course, Jesus Christ who died on a cross at the hands of evil men and women, then went to back into heaven will come back the way he went soon to judge.
    REPENT and Be prepared..

  12. First, there is no conclusive proof that Assad fired the weapons. An AP reporter claims to have interviewed the rebels and they admitted firing off the weapons by accident as they had no training in handling them. Secondly the coalition of the willing has just discovered that their democratic institutions are not allowing them to willy nilly gallop off to war.

  13. Global Research out of Montreal has this to say:
    “The self-righteousness of the United States about the alleged use of chemical
    weapons by Assad is hypocritical. The United States used napalm and employed
    massive amounts of chemical weapons in the form of Agent Orange in Vietnam,
    which continues to affect countless people over many generations. Recently
    declassified CIA documents reveal U.S. complicity in Saddam Hussein’’s use of
    chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war, according to Foreign Policy.
    “In contrast to today’s wrenching debate over whether the United States should
    intervene to stop alleged chemical weapons attacks by the Syrian government, the United States applied a cold calculus three decades ago to Hussein’s widespread use of chemical weapons against his enemies and his own people. The Reagan administration decided that it was better to let the attacks continue if they might turn the tide of the war. And even if they were discovered, the CIA
    wagered that international outrage and condemnation would be muted.””

  14. As dispicable as Assad is defeating him leaves Syria likely to be governed by extremist Islamic radicals of unknown intention. They may even be crazy enough to provide terrorists with chemical weapons, something the Assad regime knew would only end in their distruction. Even without the chemical weapons issue, the rebel forces in victory are sure to massacre non-suni religious groups by the tens of thousands in revenge.

    The US has no good choices, only a number of bad options.

  15. This whole thing got started when the participants of a peaceful protest against Assad’s regime were fired upon. I don’t recall any extreme Islamic radicals being part of that initial demonstration. They didn’t have a dog in that fight until the Syrian Army got their orders to kill a number of unarmed civilians. There’s no doubt that a number of them are seeded within the Free Syrian Army as they had the weapons necessary for the rebels to fight back against overwhelming forces. They’ve been a part of Syria ever since his father, Hafez al-Assad, had an estimated 30,000 of the Muslim Brother hood slaughtered at Hama in 1982, during a political uprising against him. There’s no doubt that this is a cause for concern. But Assad won’t back down from the slaughter until you finally get his attention. And that is the prospect of him being bombed back into the stone age, put on trial for crimes against humanity, and summarily executed like his mentor, Saddam Hussein.

    Stop moralizing about a supposed outcome. Stop trying to second guess a supposed outcome. That’s a job for apologists, cowards, and Ed Milibrand, the leader of the Labour Party in the British parliament..

  16. larouchepac dot com —- can save you time.

  17. The reason Obama supports terrorists in Syria is because Assad is viewed as a enemy of Saudi and Sunni Islam.

    Think about it.

  18. The West has no business interfering in Syria. We have to protect our part of the world first and foremost.

    The important thing to do is to prevent Islamists from infiltrating Western nations thanks to useless open immigration policies. Why is this issue usually ignored except on issue-specific websites like immigrationwatchcanada.org and jihadwatch.org?

  19. some things …like these Sirian chemical arm issue must be resolved by arm! so as nobody in the world should repeat it!!! let’s go to war!
    _________________
    anunturi braila

  20. What about ??????

    What about the international courts….

    Put out a warrent for Assad’s arrest,
    now the US have the proof that he has used chemical weapons

    by the way who is running the IMF?

  21. Are you with the big killer Bashar el
    Assad :

    too many people tried but even human rights could not count the number of
    people killed by the Assad family and their troops

    This family attacks other countries planed and made the Lebanese Civil war then
    interrupted it and occupied Lebanon for 30 years making unlisted massacres

    in Beirut Achrafieh1979 – Beirut Ain Remmeneh1980 -Bekaa Zahle1981 -North
    Kenat1982- South Saida1974-and Bent Jbeil2000 … and a lot of Christian
    Countries total of minimum 100 000 Christian man died and still have too many
    Lebanese Prisoners in Syria till today (they killed Muslims too)

    they made Massacres inside Syria too Hama Massacre 1982 (40000 people died by
    making tanks drive on people homes at night ) and more and more

    they bombed and kidnapped too many political persons too :

    Maya BAchir Gemayel bombed (1980)+50 people

    Lebanese President Bachir gemayel bombed (1982) +50people

    United States Embassy bombed (1983) confused number of dead

    Iranian revolution takes responsibility witch is also Syria allies

    Lebanese President Rene Mouawad bombed (1989 )+50people

    Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri bombed (2005)+Minister Flayhan+50people

    etc..

    i will try to List a fast brief for you

    1951, July 17 – Several months after leaving office, Lebanon’s first
    post-independence Prime Minister Riad al-Solh was assassinated in Amman, Jordan
    by a member of theSyrian Social Nationalist Party.

    1975, March 6 – The Sunni politician and Sidon leader Maarouf Saad died. He was
    shot down on February 26, 1975 during a demonstration in Sidon. His death is
    considered to be a partial trigger for the start of the civil war.

    1977, March 16 – Druze leader Kamal Jumblatt killed close to his home in the
    Chouf area. Though it has not been proved in court, the assassination is
    largely blamed on Syria.

    1978, Ehden massacres.

    1982, September 14 – President-elect Bashir Gemayel killed by Habib
    Shartouni(still alive and free by syrian army now), a member of the Syrian
    Social Nationalist Party. His brother Amin Gemayel became president of Lebanon
    instead.

    1983, April 18 – The American Embassy in Beirut was bombed. 63 people,
    including 17 Americans lost their lives in this attack(and more).

    1983, October 23- The Beirut barracks bombing killed more than 200 American and
    French armed forces personnel.

    1985, March 8- More than 80 were killed and 200 injured in a blast in the city.

    between sunni Palestinians and shiite Hezbollah in a side and Syrian allies
    called shiite Amal Militia i other side (they are all friends to syrian regime
    today)

    in that day syria wants to eliminate Palestinians forces a little bit

    1989, May 16 – Head of Sunni community in Lebanon, Mufti Sheikh Hassan Khaled
    killed by car bomb in Beirut. The assassination is largely blamed on Syria.

    1989, November 22 – President René Mouawad, the second President of Lebanon to
    be killed by Syria was killed by a car bomb, three weeks after becoming
    president.

    1990, October 21 – Leader of the National Liberal Party Dany Chamoun shot dead
    in suburb of Beirut.

    1992, February 16 – Leader of Hezbollah Abbas al-Musawi killed by Israel in
    Jibsheet, a town in the South of Lebanon.

    2002, January 24 – Former Lebanese Forces intelligence officer,who became a
    Syrian ally, former Lebanese government minister and member of parliament, and
    one of the planners of theSabra and Shatila massacre,

    who became a Syrian ally Elie Hobeika was assassinated on January 24, 2002 car
    bombing in the Beirut suburb of Hazmieh.

    note: all people are against Assad regime but became with him even the Church
    because they are afraid from him thinking of their families and to the power
    that he can give to them.

    Starting in 2004, a series of bombings and assassinations struck Lebanon, most
    of them in and around the capital, Beirut. This wave of bombings began with the
    assassination attempt on Marwan Hamadeh, then heated up with the assassination
    of former Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri on February 14, 2005, which touched off
    the Cedar Revolution and the withdrawal of Syrian troops. After the massive
    protests following Hariri’s killing, several more bombings hit Lebanon.

    These bombings and assassinations came after September 2004, when the Lebanese
    Parliament was pressured by Syria to extend the term of Pro-Syrian President
    Emile Lahoud through a constitutional amendment. The MPs, journalists, and
    activists that opposed this term extension were subject to slander, harassment
    and, in many cases, assassination attempts.

    2004

    Marwan Hamadeh assassination attempt

    On October 1, 2004, a car bomb exploded next to the motorcade carrying Druze MP
    Marwan Hamadeh. Hamadeh was injured, but survived; his driver was killed.
    Hamadeh was a critic of Syria and a member of the opposition to President Émile
    Lahoud.

    2005

    Rafiq Hariri assassination

    Ministry of the Interior soldier guarding the site of the attack that killed
    former Prime Minister Hariri

    A massive explosion on February 14, 2005, killed former Lebanese Prime Minister
    Rafiq Hariri in Beirut, near the St. George Hotel. Also killed was the former
    Minister of the Economy, Bassel Fleihan, and 19 other people. About 220 others
    were wounded.

    A group calling itself “The Nasra & Jihad Group in Greater Syria”
    claimed responsibility for the blast. The group had not been heard from before.
    A tape aired by Al Jazeera showed a bearded man, believed to be a Palestinian
    named Ahmad Abu Adas, claiming the attack. Adas’ apartment was raided but he
    remains missing; however, it is now thought he was forced to admit to the plot
    and was killed by those who planned the assassination.

    According to the United Nations report by Detlev Mehlis, released October 20,
    2005, the blast was the result of a truck bomb. A security camera captured a
    white Mitsubishi truck driving near Hariri’s convoy moments before the blast;
    investigators determined this truck carried the explosives, estimated at 1,000
    kg. Since Hariri’s convoy had jamming devices meant to block remote control
    signals, the attack was carried out using a suicide bomber. The report cited a
    witness who said the bomber was an Iraqi who was led to believe his target was
    Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, who had been in Beirut just days before.

    The report concluded that top Syrian and Lebanese officials planned the
    assassination beginning in mid-2004.

    Beirut -New Jdeideh bombing

    A car bomb exploded in the New Jdeideh suburb of Beirut on March 19, 2005. The
    blast happened in a part-commercial, part-residential area, and wounded eleven
    people. Reports said that the driver had tried to park it in front of a bingo
    hall, and was turned away, so he parked it next to an apartment.

    Beirut-Kaslik bombing

    On March 23 a bomb left in a leather bag exploded at the back entrance of the
    Kaslik shopping center in Jounieh. Two Indian and onePakistan janitor were
    killed, and two Sri Lankans and two Lebanese injured. The roof of the mall
    collapsed.

    Beirut-Sad el-Bouchrieh bombing

    On March 26, a car bomb parked between two factories exploded in the Sad
    el-Bouchrieh area of Beirut, wounding six people. It caused a blaze which
    destroyed several workshops.

    Mount-Lebaanon – Broummana bombing

    On April 1, a bomb ripped through the Rizk plaza in the Broummana resort
    village, 20 km (12 mi) east of Beirut. Twelve people were injured.

    Jounieh bomb aftermath

    Jounieh bombing

    On May 7, a car bomb exploded between the Christian Sawt al Mahaba radio
    station and the Mar Yuhanna Church in Jounieh. The radio station was destroyed
    and the church suffered major damage. Twenty-two people were wounded.

    Samir Kassir assassination

    Anti-Syrian journalist Samir Kassir was assassinated on June 2 when a bomb
    detonated in his car outside his home in Beirut’s Ashrafiyeh district, a
    largely Christian residential area. Kassir was a front-page columnist for the
    al-Nahar newspaper, where he wrote columns criticizing the pro-Syrian regime.

    George Hawi assassination

    George Hawi, former Lebanese Communist Party leader and a critic of Syria, died
    when his car exploded as he was driving through Beirut’s Wata Musaitbi district
    on June 21.

    Minister of Defense Elias Murr assassination attempt

    A car bomb wounded the outgoing Lebanese defense minister, Elias Murr, as his
    motorcade drove through Beirut’s Christian suburb of Antelias on July 12. Two
    people were killed and injuring 12 others. This attack was unique in the series
    of bombings in that Murr was considered a pro-Syrian figure.

    Beirut-Monot bombing

    On July 22, a bomb exploded in a car parked in front of a restaurant on Monot
    Street in Beirut, wounding twelve people. The bomb was estimated to be 50 lb.

    Beirut- Zalka bombing

    In the mostly Christian neighborhood of Zalka, on August 22, a bomb placed
    between a shopping center and a hotel damaged shops and windows, wounding eight
    people. It consisted of 20 to 30 kg of TNT and was set on a timer.

    Ali Ramez Tohme attempt

    A bomb placed the car of Ali Ramez Tohme, a journalist and president of the Dar
    al-Haitham for Journalism, Printing and Press, exploded early on September 15
    in the area of Mazboud. Tohme was not injured. The motive may have been a
    recent article by Tohme defending Rafiq Hariri.

    Beirut-Jeitawi bombing

    An explosion, believed caused by a car bomb, rocked the largely Christian area
    of Ashrafieh on September 17. One person was killed and 23 injured. Two cars
    were blown up and buildings near the blast were severely damaged.

    journalist May Chidiac assassination attempt

    Christian journalist and critic of Syria May Chidiac was seriously injured when
    a bomb exploded as she got into her car in Jounieh on September 25. She lost
    her left leg and arm. Chidiac was an anchor on the Lebanese Broadcasting
    Corporation.

    journalist Gebran Tueni assassination

    A prominent anti-Syrian journalist and lawmaker, Gebran Tueni, was killed by a
    car bomb on 12 December 2005. He had returned from France only a day earlier,
    where he had been staying for fear of assassination. Two other people were
    killed—his driver and a passerby—when a car bomb exploded as his motorcade
    drove through Mkalles, an industrial suburb of Beirut. Another 30 people were
    wounded in the bombing, and at least 10 vehicles were destroyed.

    On 28 December 2005 Lebanese newspaper An Nahar reported that it had received a
    statement signed by “The Strugglers for the Unity and Freedom in al
    Sham,” the group that claimed responsibility for the death of its former
    editor Gebran Tueni with a car bomb on 12 December 2005. The statement said
    outgoing UNIIIC chairman Mehlis was lucky to escape death and threatened any
    new chairman with assassination if he too implicated Syria.

    2006

    Minister of Production Pierre Amine Gemayel

    Pierre Amine Gemayel, anti-Syrian MP, son of Kataeb leader Amin Gemayel, nephew
    of assassinated President Bashir Gemayyel, and Minister of Industry at the time
    was shot dead in Beirut on 21 November 2006 and replaced by a Ex-General Michel
    Aoun minister allied to syria.

    2007

    Minister Walid Eido

    Walid Eido, another anti-Syrian MP, was killed by a car bomb on 13 June 2007,
    along with eight others, including his eldest son Khaled Eido.

    Minister Antoine Ghanem assassination

    Anti-Syrian Lebanese MP Antoine Ghanem and four others were killed in a car
    bomb attack in a Christian suburb of Beirut on September 19, 2007.

    General Francois Elias Hajj assassination

    Brigadier General François al-Hajj from the village of Rmaich was killed in a
    car bomb attack in Baabda, along with three other people, on December 12, 2007.

    2008

    Investigator Captain Wissam Eid assassination

    Capt. Wissam Eid, Lebanese Internal Security Forces senior terrorism
    investigator was assassinated on January 25, 2008. At the time of assassination,
    Eid was also Top Lebanese Investigator into the assassination of Prime Minister
    Rafiq Hariri.

    Tripoli bombing

    On August 13, 2008, sixteen people, including seven Lebanese soldiers, were
    killed by a bomb targeting a civilian bus in Tripoli.

    Saleh Aridi assassination

    A pro-Syrian Druze politician of the Lebanese Democratic Party, Saleh Aridi,
    was killed in a car bomb on September 10, 2008.

    Second Tripoli bombing

    On September 29, 2008, five people, including five soldiers, were killed, and
    35 were injured, by a car bomb which destroyed a bus in Tripoli.

    2012

    General Investigator Wissam al Hassan Assassination

    19 October 2012, head of the intelligence branch of the Internal Security
    Forces (ISF) Maj. Gen. Wissam al-Hassan was killed in a massive car bomb in
    Achrafieh, 128 were injured and 3 others died.

    and its just the beginning

    300 people died every day inside Syria and 50 people inside Iraq every day

    starting the Syrian Civil war

    and the IraQ to IraN conversion country

    This man Bachar el Assad is Devil himself i have not say anything about
    steeling people and making them kill their friends and kidnapping them and
    putting people on electricity chair and inside wheels and tires … terrible
    things he will not end here he allied with all soviet countries and drug mafia
    over the world he want Europe and USA and to rule the world he is the head of
    terrorism KAEDA is very good by looking to him and Dracula too he owns the
    media the internet the hackers buyed the technology steal money from countries
    like Lebanon and takes chemical weapons from Iraq nuclear from Iran balistic
    missiles everything you can’t imagine he is very very smart and bad in the same
    time.

    God be with you

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