The beauty and destruction of #icestorm2013

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The beauty and destruction of #icestorm2013

  1. It never ceases to be hilarious when the people of Toronto go into a panic over a simple weather event. A good portion of the north east US and Quebec got hit with the same storm, but only in Toronto do the people and media turn it into the end of the world.

    In all seriousness, if it weren’t for Ford being in office, would the army have been called in to make Torontonians feel safe? Ice is scarrrrry!!!!

    Apparently Toronto needs to be reminded more often that it’s still a part of Canada, and this is the kind of weather one can expect from time to time in Canada.

    • You’ve never lived in Toronto haveya….

      Or in Vancouver when it snows.

      You’d also know more about Quebec if you could read French.

      • They don’t call in the army in Vancouver when it snows. They don’t declare it a state of emergency. They don’t take snow clearing resources from surrounding communities to work in Vancouver, because, well Vancouver’s the most important place on the planet, EVAR!

        Just go read some of the ignorant comments from Torontonians comparing this storm with the flooding in Calgary. Completely ignorant to anything that doesn’t happen in Toronto. Because it’s the center of the universe.

        Every other city in Canada knows how to deal with extreme winter weather. Probably, because it’s existed here since the beginning of Canada. Except for Toronto, where the people simply can’t believe that Canada would have extreme winter weather! CANT BELIEVE IT!

        • LOL Everybody stays home in Vancouver.

          As to Toronto….well see, we’re in the south…… we have civilization here. It’s different when you only need to shovel a path to the barn Ricky.

          We have trees too….unlike the prairies. And power lines.

          Sowesto is the same latitude as N California

          Attawapiskat is in northern Ont…same latitude as Edmonton.

          • What you call civilization is really a human chicken coupe of ignorant people thinking they define the world.

            $500k+ and up for a < 500 sq/ft hole? My, you are like chickens in a pen, and never ventured out for knowledge and freedom. Makes for a myopic culture of entitlement idiots.

          • Yeah Dave, we all know you’re living in a tent in a blizzard and being manly and all.

          • Real Canadians live in Igloo’s and Tipi’s. Not “tents”. Go back to America.

          • Actually ‘real’ Canadians live in centrally heated homes.

        • Agreed. The floods are far worse and not even comparable to the snow storm.

          First off, storms like this one have already hit us twice and with a lot colder temperatures…never made the news. People in Toronto just don’t know that 90% of Canada gets this kind of snow storm and worse all the time. Losing a car to a tree isn’t the same as losing a home without insurance….not even close. And far more people were screwed in Alberta than are losing cars in Ontario, while politicians give away needed moneys to other countries…

          But we live in a idiotic society.

          • I agree – the ice storm is nowhere near as bad as the Alta flooding. Not at all a reasonable comparison. Nonetheless, it was pretty bad compared to anything I’ve seen, freezing rain wise, since moving here in 1991 (though I saw worse once in NL). If it’s the worst you’ve seen, then you’re gonna use hyperbole. It’s just the way folks are.

            And BTW – the Alta floods received plenty of national coverage, for weeks. Been taking your “western alienation” mantra a little too seriously, methinks.

          • The reason the Alberta floods got national coverage was because they were a real, legitimate catastrophe. Tens of thousands of people displaced, billions of dollars worth of damage, lives lost. Same as the “Flood of the century” in Manitoba in 1999.

            But I also remember Toronto receiving national coverage for a “flood” this summer that involved a very heavy rainfall for several hours where nobody died and nothing was damaged. But the commute home for the average Torontonian was longer than normal, so that becomes national news.

            But Toronto is the Center of the Universe…. to people in Toronto, so I guess it all makes sense.

          • It wasn’t anywhere near as bad as Alberta’s but it was a significant aberration in weather and there was Quite a bit of damage. I know people who had basements flooded (and I’m talking feet of water). Cars were washed away – I’d have to check, but didn’t someone drown?

            You clearly have a tendency to minimize the effects of any weather system that hits southern Ontario… just because it’s southern Ontario. Yes, other places get it worse – but that doesn’t mean we don’t get bad weather too.

            Grow up!

          • Fine, so there was a bit of damage. Basements flooded. This happens EVERY YEAR to thousands of people in Manitoba. But in Alberta homes were completely destroyed. Not water-damaged basements, had to be torn down if the water didn’t do it for them.

            I don’t minimize the effects of weather in southern Ontario, I just don’t build it up to be the apocolypse any time there’s a weather event, as the people of Toronto tend to do. A huge rain fall is a completely different thing than when an entire river decides to re-route through a town or city. In Manitoba’s 1999 flood the Red River, which is normally about 200 meters wide swelled to be more than 15km wide at points. The devastation was unimaginable.

          • Yup – and that’s why the Alta flood was in the news for weeks and Toronto’s a day or two. A sense of proportion, Rick – Toronto’s storm was newsworthy but not as newsworthy as Alta’s.

            As for the ice storm here, there are still thousands without power and the temp is -12 and dropping – temps in homes are now down to single digits. But who the hell cares – just Ontarians, right?

            Was out driving around Brampton today and there are still major roads closed because of downed power lines. There’s hardly a tree to be found that hasn’t sustained some damage – many are completely destroyed. But no, not newsworthy because it’s only that damn crowd from southern Ontario.

            Merry Christmas, Rick. Hope you get some compassion for Christmas. Or barring that, a lump of coal.

          • First off, storms like this one have already hit us twice and with a lot colder temperatures…never made the news.

            You’ve had TWO storms so far this season that knocked out power to over 300,000 people, and left more than 20,000 people without power for 7 days???

        • “Just go read some of the ignorant comments…”

          Oh, nobody needs to go elsewhere to read ignorant comments, Ricky. On behalf of 3M Torontonians, go f*ck yourself.

          Oh, and merry Christmas.

      • I have lived in Montreal and Toronto, and quite frankly the mass of people are soft and sheltered. Been to Vancouver int he winter too, again, sheltered and naive about how the rest of Canada gets winter.

        If Thunder Bay, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina, Calgary, Lethbridge, Red Deer, Edmonton, Hudson’s Bay area, Norther Quebec, Northern Ontario/Manitoba/Saskatchewan/Alberta/BC/Yukon/NWT/Nunavut got this storm it would only make the local weather news and never be a national event.

        Fact is the St. Lawrence/Lake Ontario and Vancouver Victoria people wimps to a real Canadian winter. And I mean wimps. If a winter cold and snow front that hits Edmonton, Saskatoon or Winnipeg ever hit Toronto, the west would go to work and Toronto would stay home.

        • If you’d rather be ‘tough’ than civilized….it’s your problem.

          • Emilechka, the only thing setting Toronto apart from the rest of Canada is the annual sick parade. I hope you’re not trying to convince us that horror show is civilized.

          • Develops independence of thought, courage, self worth and a think for your self type if you don’t shelter yourselves like chickens in a city coop. BTW, I lived in Montreal and Toronto, and why I would rather die than be stuck in these “big” city chicken coupes.

            Hey, people like me don’t live off of others, we produce our way.

            Also lived in 4 countries and visited more as I am not a scared rabbit. Escaping from Toronto/Montreal were the best moves I made.

            Maybe you should try living in another country or in Yukon for a winter. Opens ones eyes up big time.

          • Dave….we left the caves for a reason. If you want to play Neanderthal that’s up to you.

            They died out.

          • They never died, they bred with Homo Sapiens, until they were assimilated.
            Which is where your brow came from.

          • I strive to be both. I see what happens when one has neither. One ends up living in a self-imposed cocoon, churning out more than 11,000 bitter, angry comments on Disqus. Tough and civilized people don’t do that.

          • You are neither. Just uneducated.

        • This storm would make the national news even if it happened in the NWT but most certainly if it happened in any of the 10 provinces. We have nasty storms in the prairies but we do not strap on skates and skate on the streets. We also seldom are without power for days and days. Lighten up on the rhetoric!

    • I had a reply written, but after reading your post again, I conclude that is it 99% pure troll bait.

      • Ricky works for the Cons and actually thinks he’s doing a good job of recruiting. We give him a whirl around the dancefloor occasionally….he needs the money.

      • Yup. If people ignored him he’d go somewhere else.

      • Not really, given I have lived in Montral, Toronto, Thunder Bay, Edmonton, Red Deer and Calgary, and 3 more countries, and even more on vacations…

        Toronto people are whiners and sissy types that complain. This storm happens all the storm in the 90% of the rest of Canada regularily, and often with higher winds, colder temps for a lot longer.

        People in Winnipeg probably don’t respond as they laugh so hard at how soft people from Toronto have become.

        When I lived in Wisconsin and Thunder Bay, ice storms happened all the time but they prepared, trees were trimmed, power lines inspected and repaired well int he summer and they were ready. When I lived in Etobicoke (then a city) as a kid, I am sure we used o see this every other year or so. But fair weather and a lake of awareness of real Canada caught everyone off-guard.

        But does raise the question, is it really warming up in this world or is it junk fiction for money?

        • There are very few places that regularly get the kind of ice buildup and tree damage that occurred here. If ice storms are somewhat common then yes you’d expect the population to be somewhat prepared and know what to do – but this is an abnormal event here.

          People prepare for normal situations, not the “of the decade” or “of the century” variety.

          By your logic, the people of Alta were being unprepared wimps over this summer’s flooding.

          • Agreed with Keith. All these cities that people are talking about may be in Canada, but Canada is one giant land mass with a diverse weather system. It’s not normal for places like Vancouver, Victoria, Toronto, Montreal which are at lower latitudes and also close to big water systems to experience extremely cold weather just as it isn’t normal for Calgary to experience mass flooding. Let’s stop comparing apples to oranges and even worse, trying to make one city’s pain seem much worst than another’s. As a human being, I’d like to think we can sympathize with those who have been going 12 hours or more without heat or power when temperatures are clearly below freezing point..some are in clear panic that they are using dangerous methods to get some heat going in their homes!

            Just looking at the photos in TO are unbelievable. It actually looks like a cold blast of wind froze every particle of water in place without warning..that’s not even a scene I see here in Edmonton!

          • It was pretty wild. Trees in the park behind me were cracking and falling all night. Many are completely gone & some look more like they exploded than just collapsed under the weight. The large tree in my back yard (I thnk it’s a more southern species – it was here when I moved in so I don’t know what it is; never seen another like it) lost half its limbs. Definitely not your typical weather. And yes, lots of people lost power for quite a stretch; I was lucky mine was only out for between three & four hours.