Canadian military closer to starting Ukraine mission -

Canadian military closer to starting Ukraine mission

Full contingent could be on the ground in August barring further hurdles

Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak, 2nd right, and Canadian Defence Minister Jason Kenney, center, inspects a International Center for Peacemaking and Safety the Army Academy in the Lviv region, western Ukraine, Saturday, June  27, 2015. (AP Photo/Pavlo Palamarchuk)

(AP Photo/Pavlo Palamarchuk)

Legal and diplomatic obstacles to deploying Canadian military trainers in Ukraine have largely been cleared away, Defence Minister Jason Kenney says.

He was scheduled to tour the multi-national centre at Yavoriv, near the Polish border, on Saturday where the roughly 200 combat instructors will set up shop in the coming weeks.

Both the U.S. and Britain have been at the training grounds since the spring, running hundreds of Ukrainian national guardsmen through remedial, basic military courses.

Canada’s contribution was announced with much political fanfare in mid-April, but it could be August before the full contingent is on the ground.

“We do not yet have a technical assistance agreement with Ukraine,” he said in an interview with The Canadian Press. “We need a legal framework before we can fully deploy our trainers here. That’s one of the reasons for my visit. It’s to resolve some of the outstanding, technical legal issues.”

Kenney did not say what the hang-ups might be, but pointed out the Americans had worked on their technical agreement with Kyiv over year before Canada and that they were in a better position to move ahead quickly.

Aside from negotiating the legal framework with the Ukrainian government, Kenney says the Pentagon only recently gave Canada the green light to share the training base, which was originally leased to NATO at a time when the former Soviet republic was on its way to joining the alliance.

“We realized we could save a lot of money if co-located with the Americans at the same training base and shared logistics and there would be an economy of scale there, and for internal reasons they couldn’t actually give the green light until quite recently,” he said.

There was a similar gap between the announcement and the deployment of troops and aircraft last fall to do battle with the Islamic State. Canadian officials had to scramble to exchange diplomatic notes with Iraq in order to define legal protections for troops and pilots who would called upon to use deadly force.

The Harper government elected to not go all of the way with Baghdad and create a status of forces agreement, something that concerned opposition parties.

There are, at the moment, approximately 40 Canadians on the ground in Ukraine, conducting a reconnaissance and preparing for the larger contingent.

The bulk of that force, which will be in Yavoriv, will carry out combat arms training, but a handful will also be sprinkled at other centres, notably the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence de-mining centre in Kamyanets-Podilsky in the country’s extreme southwest.

There will also be medical trainers, military police instructors, flight safety teachers and others showing Ukrainians how to set up an effective military supply chain.

But it is the hard-won Afghan war skills of detecting, avoiding and dismantling roadside bombs that will be of exceptional value, Ukrainian military officials have said privately.

On Thursday, NATO announced it is establishing a new trust fund for Ukraine that “will aim at de-mining, and also on countering improvised explosive devices.”

Seven Ukrainian soldiers died earlier this month when their truck hit a mine not far from Krasnogorivka, west of Donetsk. A passenger bus blew up after striking a mine last spring, killing three people in the same region.

The United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) has warned that unexploded mines and ammunition pose a special threat to children in eastern Ukraine.

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  1. “We need a legal framework before we can fully deploy our trainers here.”

    What legal framework ?

    Canada is at War in Ukraine, undeclared but nevertheless illegal warfare.

    Remember: The Ukraine is not a member of NATO.

    There is no true, honest reason given for assisting in, the fratricide, this Civil War.

    peace keeping, peace enforcing, and now peace making… More Harper schizophrenia.

    Why would Harper prop-up Kenney in this photo-shoot?
    Because Harper knows he has lost the coming election and will step aside for Kenney to be Canada’s next neocon Prime Minister… or will it be neocon Joe Oliver?

    • Won’t be either one

      And we are not at war in Ukraine….legally or illegally.

      • Then Harper is a terrorist, murderer. You can not have it both ways… sorry.

        Looks like he can stand beside Poroshenko for MH17 acts of aggression as well.

        He can not say he is “supporting NATO pardners in their fight against Russia” and at the same remain silent on his involvement in Ukraine.
        Same schizophrenic behavior as in 2003 Iraq involvement.

  2. I’ll try garbling the msg to avoid keywords:
    MLb fan said Judgment at Nurem… was boring but would be very interesting had the trial taken place in the 1930s. We have to prevent AI b4 it happens. *Anyone who takes control of the military should demonstrate they are acting in the best interests of all of the people of Earth. They want military programmes to be able to be opened up, some hostile situation to become less so, so no gvmt will make AI. Presumably a less threatening environment leads to less capacity/willingness to create AI.
    When they told me a while ago to study other forms of gvmt, it wasn’t a reference to brain imaging of leaders and maybe treatment, it was a reference to reducing covert Crowns’s imperative to initiate clandestine AI programmes. They say power blocs are imperfect (I’m assuming like in the Cold War only with genuine bloc member equality and equality concern for the citizens of other member countries), but are a good way to go. And that existing checks on power will still function….this seems tenuous to me. Canada elected a Bush Sr, but would never take orders from a GWB (the Reformers had to merge with PC to eventually form gvmt). They said the present geopolitical course more risks a nuclear (bomb) accident, nuclear annihilation, in addition increasing to the future AI threat. I don’t think AI would be worth the risk to defend against them; they have already told me the best defense in the nearer-term (underground cities maybe with GMO mushrooms, colonies on the far side of the outer planets able to take in refugees as long as no AI construction there).