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The hidden message in fried chicken

A KFC ad was yanked off the air after it was labelled insensitive


The hidden message in fried chicken

UPDATE: Since the publication of this story, Australian authorities have charged Jaspreet Singh with lodging a false report for financial gain. Police allege that Singh was not set on fire in a racially motivated attack, but that he instead accidentally burned himself while torching his car for an insurance claim.


When it was reported last spring that dozens of Indian students attending university in Melbourne and Sydney had been attacked, Australian authorities dismissed racism as a motivating factor. Instead, they suggested the students were “soft targets” because they often travelled alone and carried valuable items, such as laptops. That response sparked Indian-led rallies in Melbourne and Sydney to raise awareness and promote greater safety measures, yet the attacks continue and India is now accusing Australia of sitting idly by as they occur.

In January, an Indian accounting student named Nitin Garg was stabbed by unidentified assailants in a Melbourne suburb. While his funeral was taking place in India, another Indian man by the name of Jaspreet Singh was lying in a hospital bed after reportedly being doused with gasoline and set ablaze by a group of four males. (Investigators are also looking into the possibility that he might have set himself on fire.) Adding to the controversy, a KFC commercial was yanked off the air after being labelled racially insensitive. In the commercial, which can still be seen on YouTube, a white Australian man watching a cricket match calms the rowdy group of West Indians he’s sitting with by offering them fried chicken. The tag line: “Need a tip when you’re stuck in an awkward situation?”

India’s government has issued a travel warning for Australia. Its overseas affairs minister, Vayalar Ravi, asks of the alleged culprits behind the attacks, “Why cannot they arrest them and put them behind bars and prosecute them?” Australia’s acting foreign minister, Simon Crean, responded by saying that Australia “is a tolerant and anti-racist society, but there is no guarantee everyone subscribes to those values.”


The hidden message in fried chicken

  1. WTG on attempting to create further controversy on matters that you are obviously behind the times with.

    What, you needed to get some hits on your site?

    (1) The 3 persons so far charged with Nitin Garg's murder were, like Mr Garg, also Indian nationals. The theory is there was a dispute over wages. So – not racially motivated.

    (2) Police have charged Jaspreet Singh with making a false police report (that is, supposedly being attacked by 4 men) when it's likely he set himself on fire when trying to light his car up to claim the insurance money. Evidence in favor of this theory: Jaspreet on tape the day before the event buying a 15 litre container and filling it up with petrol, plus information to suggest he was experiencing financial difficulty, and some matters in Jaspreet's story of the events not making sense to the police. So – not racially motivated.

    • get your facts right lady. the garg murder case has not been worked out by victoria policee yet. as far as the other 2 incidents go, that's 2 down 1498 more to explain………

      • Yep, too true, every one of those 1498 cases must be racist because the victims were Indian nationals.

        In case you missed it – that last sentence was sarcasm.

        But yes, you are right in that I referred to Nitin Garg's case where the case I was thinking of was another person. Mr Garg's assault was a particularly vicious one, as such I'm afraid I had his name on my brain. If any acquaintances of Nitin Garg should happen to be reading my post, I apologise if my referencing his name caused any upset.

  2. (3) The so-called fried chicken affair is more to do with American cultural sensitivity (or oversensitivity) to the image of a 'black' person eating fried chicken. Which disregards the fact the ad doesn't have African Americans in it – it has West Indians. America isn't known for it's national cricket team. The West Indians have a history of a strong cricket team. It makes sense that when a commercial sponsor of cricket – KFC – wants to sell it's product in a way so as to link to it's support of cricket, it produces an ad trying to win customers from two teams in the competition. What cricket has to do with America is anyone's guess. And why is it Americans are so sensitive just to the image of someone black eating fried chicken anyway? Supposedly the image of any other skin colour eating fried chicken is ok, but put someone black in the picture and all of a sudden it supposedly has racist connotations. Isn't this distinction between which races can be seen to be eating fried chicken in itself a racist distinction? Absurd! It's amazing KFC still exist given their product apparantly has such a direct link to racial prejudice. So – not racially motivated.

    • excuse the blacks for being overly sensitive about 500 years of slavery and discrimination !! easy for you to say, as you never suffered their yoke.
      kfc might have produced an aussie ad for aussie consumption, but they are an AMERICAN company. they should have known better.
      there is a world outside of your shell, if you care to look.

      • I still haven't had it explained as to why the sight of someone who happens to have darker toned skin eating fried chicken, should happen to be a racist one. As such I'm still of the opinion that people who think it's racist for darker toned skin persons to be eating fried chicken are, themselves, racist.

        I scorn those racists who say persons of particular races should not be permitted to eat fried chicken!!.

        I stand for the right of peoples of all nations to be able to eat fried chicken if they so choose!!!!

        Food isn't racism. Fried chicken isn't racism. Eating isn't racism. Therefore eating fried chicken isn't racism.

        You'd think that after _A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN_ 500 years of slavery and discrimination those who have been discriminated against would like to be able to partake of a certain food group guilt free – or at least without feeling like they're propagating racist imagery.

        There is a world outside of your shell, if you care to look.

        Not that I suggest people eat KFC. That stuff is crap.

        • Side note – as you've noticed, I am female. Slavery and discrimination isn't just a race issue. Discrimination and subjection (if not slavery) of women has been occuring for as long as humans have existed.

          Do you see me demanding India must guarantee the safety of all it's women? Do you see me crying out in my outrage that India allows so many of it's women to be scarred horribly when their spouses burn them in acts of domestic violence? Do you see me organising women to go out in enraged, armed gangs at nights to 'take back the streets' from the men?



          Because the expectations are unreasonable and I would be an unreasonable person to demand it. I also think that my own country has enough of a problem with subjection of women that I don't need to be lecturing other countries about theirs.

          You can educate and provide as much support services as any country can possibly afford and it will never wipe out gender discrimination, inequality, and slavery completely.

          The same can be said for the topics of racism, assualts and murder.

          The best you can do is have the public structures in place to deal with them.

        • ….

          Since the Civil War, traditional slave foods like fried chicken, watermelon, and chitterlings, have suffered a strong association with African American stereotypes and blackface minstrelsy. This was commercialized for the first half of the 20th century by restaurants like Sambo's and Coon Chicken Inn, which selected exaggerated blacks as mascots, implying quality by their association with the stereotype. While acknowledged positively as soul food in the modern age by many, the affinity that African American culture has for fried chicken has been considered a delicate, often pejorative issue."

        • Kate, from wiki, since you asked:

          "When it was introduced to the American South, fried chicken became a common staple. Later, as Africans were brought to work on southern plantations, the slaves who became cooks incorporated seasonings and spices that were absent in traditional Scottish cuisine, enriching the flavor. Since most slaves were unable to raise expensive meats, but generally allowed to keep chickens, frying chicken on special occasions spread through the African American communities of the South. It endured the fall of slavery and gradually passed into common use as a general Southern dish. Since fried chicken traveled well in hot weather before refrigeration was commonplace, it gained further favor in the periods of American history when segregation closed off most restaurants to the black population. Fried chicken continues to be among this region's top choices for "Sunday dinner" among both blacks and whites. Holidays such as Independence Day and other gatherings often feature this dish….

      • There is a world outside North American's shell if they care to look.

        Exactly why would the rest of the world understand (or have even heard of) this bizarre sensitivity that Americans have regarding fried chickens and African Americans?

        An Australian advertisment made for the Australian Market by a company run by Australian Management (perhaps with cashflow heading back to the USA).

        A uniquely arrogant outlook that seems to require that the rest of the world must by necessity be endowed with an intimate knowledge of the cultural nuances and hangups of Americans. We're not.

  3. No one denies that racism exists anywhere in the world but to deliberately continue to suggest (as you omitted details on the cases which would suggest the opposite) known cases are examples of racism when at this point it's known that they're highly likely not to be makes you one giant jackass.

    Particularly where relations between India and Australia are already strained because the attacks that have occurred. Reporting on known cases in a way so as to suggest they are racially based when current info on the cases suggests they're not is not what I would consider to be 'responsible' reporting given the likelihood that such reporting will inflame public response or attitudes.

    You're one big tool mate.

    • An update was made to address you concerns.

    • You may want to check the update at the top of the page.

      • Yes, I noticed you'd put that up after my post. Thankyou for paying attention to the concerns of your discussion board contributors.

    • responsible reporting.

      the way our local media goes on about schapelle corby being only second to mother teresa.
      or how about the sob story of the Thai barmat stealing Melbourne mum who was denied a visa to go to disneyworld !

      that's more like responsible reporting.

      • Nope Shapelle Corby is a drugs mule capitalising on her so-called beauty to try and get away with it.

        Just because the Australian media (with some exceptions) might also be irresponsible in their sensationalist reporting, and just because nationalistic sentiment in Australia seems to be on the rise (leading the Australian media to pander to it) doesn't mean my complaint about non-Australian media reporting in a unbalanced way about Australia is invalid, or without merit.

        I'm not nationalistic enough to feel the need to explain away or in any way feel responsible for the actions of the Australian media. I do think that alleging racism in these assaults as a whole, without first having cause to believe it to be so in individual cases, is causing tension to rise in Australia communities. Rising tensions means the increasing likelihood that some young male prick with too much testosterone and a chip on his shoulder (whatever his race might be) is going to blow up and assault someone.

  4. I have to say very little of any of this makes any sense. Why in a country like Australia with large immigrant minorities from all over the world would Indians be singled out as targets? Why would they be particular targets of racism when it appears most of their assailants are actually members of other minorities, Asian, Lebanese, Aboriginal etc (or in some cases as above even fellow Indians). If you look at the figures most of the attacks are on taxi drivers and late night convenience store attendants, both occupations that are significantly more vulnerable than the norm and dominated by Indian workers. The attacks in Harris Park were perpetrated by Lebanese gangs in a dodgy neighbourhood where there are few white Australians anyway. Noone denies there are racists in Australia but they should in fact be kept pretty busy by all the other minorities as well. In response to Australian officials insistence that the figures are not out of the ordinary for those occupations or neighbourhoods and are not racially motivated the Indian populist press and the Indian Governmant has continued to demand a special response for Indians. Go figure?

  5. This debate is absurd in the extreme.
    Very little rationality, no common sense.
    This is obviously a crime issue. I mean that is obvious to anyone who has been to Melbourne.
    Firstly, do Indians really believe that there is no crime in Australia? Do you not have crime in India? Is there a nation on earth where there is not crime?
    Two Indian nationals have been murderd recently.
    One was stabbed as he was being mugged in a park, late at night in a bad part of town. The part of Melbourne he was murdered in (Footscray) has a long, long hsitory of being a downtrodden, poor, and crime-ridden part of Melbourne. There are murders and assaults there many times a year, on people of all nationalities.
    The population is less than half anglo-Australian, it is primarily Eastern European, middle-eastern, Indian and Pacific Islander immigrants who live in this part of Melbourne.
    In terms of crime, these immigrants represent a disproportiante percentage of those involved in crime (due to a variety of issues, perhaps alientation from a culture which is somewhat foreign to them, also povery and lack of opportunity in comparison to some other groups in society).
    The point of that, is that the person or persons who murdered Nitin Garg were statistically very unlikely to be anglo-Australians, as assumed by the (frankly, ridiculously unproffesional) Indian media.
    This suggests, coupled with the fact that it was likely a random crime of opportunity with the intention of theft, that the crime was not racial in motivation, but purley opportunistic, for the intention of theft.
    The second murder of a young Indian man occured in a fruit growing region of regional Victoria and was quite macarbe and shocking, in that the victim was set on fire.
    This crime occured in a town that has a popualtion of 2000 Indians, and several other significant immigrant groups from around the world who come in search of work, which is always available in the agricultural sector as it is very hard work for little pay.
    Currently the police investigation (information about which is freely available from dozens of Australian media organisations in direct contradiction to the many Indians claiming information about the attack is unavailable), is centered around the victim’s co-workers.
    And here’s the strange thing, that the Indian media apparently refuses to report, the victims’ collegues (the prime suspects, who are being held in the case) are Indian citizens, currently in Australia for work.
    The motive currently considered most likeley to have been the cause of the murder is monetary, in that the victim’s employer (one of the suspects) had failed to pay the victim his promised wage and had denied him as much as $9000 in wages.
    The victim attended a party with the suspects right before his murder, at which a dispute about the money occured which became heated. He left the party in the company of the men he was arguing with and was then found the next day, murdered, having been set alight.
    So due to the evidence, it appears extremely unlikely that this was a racial attack, and much more likely that he was murdered by a group of his fellow countrymen over a financial matter.
    All this goes unreported in India, despite all this information being freely available (it took me about two minutes on google to find this information).

    This suggest to me, and any rational, freethinking person, that the issue is one of crime.
    Indians are disporportiantley represented in assault and murder crimes in Melbourne in particular.
    As has been said many times, it is quite obvious to a resident or even just someone who has spent time in Melbourne as to why this is the case.
    Almost every single taxi driver, service station or conveniance store attendant is of Indian nationalty. These are dangerous jobs, with night shifts, and make easy targets for drunken assaults or criminality.
    Indian students also tend to board in unsafe neighbourhoods with problems with street crime, due to the cheapness of the rent. An affluent young Indian student, who probably has far more money in their wallet than most residents of the area, and would tend to have things such as Ipods or laptops in their posession, is a very good target for a young thug looking for someone to mug.
    None of this is racial, considering many of these thugs and criminals are not anglo-Australian at all (immigrant groups are disproportiantley represented in groups of young criminals on Melbourne streets). It is simply crime, and the causes of crime are usually economic (ie the people commiting them are poor and disenfranchised).

    Having said all, there is a problem here and it is simply that there is alot of crime in certain parts of Melbourne and Sydney streets.
    Sadly, this is no easy problem to fix, and I am unaware of a single country or city who have acheived the elimination of street crime in rough neighbourhoods.
    As an example, if a young, anglo-Australian man were robbed and murdered in a Mumbai slum, would that attack automatically be racial? Of course not, unless you’re deranged.
    The same principle applies here.
    Another interesting point raised by the Australian deputy PM some time ago is that more Australians have been murdered and assaulted in India in the last few years than vice verse, more startling when you consider that far fewer Australians move to India, than Indians moving to Australia.
    Is that because of some deep-seated national racism on the part of India?
    I think that’s absurd, but follwoing the Indian media’s logic, that must be the case.

    In terms of a country being refered to as racist, that too is absurd.
    Countries aren’t racist, people are.
    There is racism in Australia, India, the UK, the US, in every single country I ahve ever read about or been to. Why?
    Becasue racism is a human issue, not a national one. Which I would think would be patently obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.

    In regards to the idea that Indians are foolish to pursue education in Australia, this blatantly ignores the point, that the majority of Indian “students” are in Australia for one reason alone, to obtain residency and live out their lives in this country.
    It has virtually nothing to do with education and everything to do with them pursuing better opportunities in a richer country (with less crime, lower unemployemnt, better social services like healthcare, education etc).
    What may shcok Indians is that Australia is not some crime-free utopia, where everyone is happy all the time and welcoming.
    The reality is Australia is simply another country, part of the world, and shares it’s problems, to varying degrees.

    I would like to see a solution to this problem as it pains me when Indians imply that I am racist, because a young hood mugged a young Indian student in Melbourne.
    The solution is a reduction in street crime, coupled with an education program for young Indians coming to this country about the risks associated with working late night jobs, living in dangerous neighbourhoods and travelling alone at night, in places an Australian who has lived here for some time would never dare go (I would never, ever, in a million years, walk across a park in Footscray late at night – if I had been in the exact same position as Mr Garg I too would now be murdered – and I’m as anglo-Australian as anyone else).

    • Where is good and teethy hate crimes legislation, when we most need it ?

  6. the "asians,lebanese and aboriginal" assailants that John kindly refers to are probably as Australian as Pauline Hanson and the One nationers……
    hence our bad rep across the globe.

    • I agree.

      Just because the persons who commit the crimes are not necessarily 'white' doesn't stop the crimes from being racist.

      When societal responsibility (or lack thereof) is felt regardless of racial boundaries then racism will truly be said as put to rest.

      However, I believe what John was referencing here was the Indian media portrayed Australian police in a cartoon wearing KKK hoods – thereby suggesting Australia's police forces are white supremacists who don't care two bits for the concerns of foreigners visiting our shores.

      Why don't we find common ground and just all agree that racism exists everywhere, across all boundaries, and is a fault of all racial groups that exist (such as they can still continue to be delineated – great big melting pot and all that).

      It would help though, if as soon as the accusation of racism reverberates through a room people don't just assume it's a white dude being accused. Which is what India has done, which is itself a form a of racism.

  7. H1N1 writes: ""excuse the blacks for being overly sensitive about 500 years of slavery and discrimination !! easy for you to say, as you never suffered their yoke."

    Of course, none of us Down Under could relate to that kind of stuff because none of our forbears were sent in hell-hole ships on lucky to survive 13,000 mile sea journeys, in chains, being brutalised and starved … then those who did somehow survive the journey forced to work the rest of their lives as slaves in stinking hot or icy cold (Tasmania) open air prisons loosley described as penal colonies, mainly for crimes that would attract a $50 fine today.

    Or worse, sent here for no crime at all … except the crime of being anti-British or worse, poor.

    No, of course, we'd never understand what it's like to be downtrodden and discriminated against.

    Obviously, the convict gene we all possess in this country just makes us want to bash and rob Indians.

  8. Of course, if you believe the Indian media, all these Aussie criminals are walking up to their victims and checking their nationality before they do anything untoward.

    "Excuse me mate, give me your iPod .. hang on, before I whack you, are you Indian??" Please, give me a f.cking break.

    Given that Australia is no longer a white country, with one in four Aussies from somewhere else and many of the rest children or grandchildren of people from all over the planet, seeing someone with brown skin in Australia these days isn't anything out of the ordinary or anything that anyone really thinks about.

    How come no Sri Lankans and Pakistanis are copping it??

    Something is mighty fishy about the way this is being interpreted. Also, the official figures tell a different story to those being thrown around by Indian student bodies and the Indian media.

    The two recent cases involving Indian nationals charged with crimes against Indian nationals (one actually against himself allegedly involving a can of petrol and a made-up story), which were reported as racist attacks in the Indian media, are illuminating.

  9. The charges of racism are something Australians should reject and deplore, and even more illuminating are the comments from many Indians living permanently in Australia (and who have always been a part of the community here) who have suggested the Indian media's reporting is both inaccurate and hysterical and agenda-driven.

  10. And India … do some digging on the caste system and the huge gap between the rural poor and the new burgeoinging middle class and the obscene wealth of the ruling elites, or the religious discrimination. If you want to talk discirmination, lack of opportunity, people being oppressed, that's a minefield.

    I've never been to a place that is more egalitarian and tolerant and colourblind than modern Australia, nor one that offers so much opportunity to any person regardless of class, religion, race, colour, or socio-economic background. It doesn't just pay lip service to this, either. It actively encourages equality across the spectrum, from education to job opportunity, and legislates for it. Not perfect by any means, but it's waaay better than most. With stable democracy, rule of law and a standard of living better than that of the US, is it any wonder people are knocking down the door to get in?? Indians included?

    Perhaps everyone else should get their own houses in order before they start accusing us in this country of things that are not real and about which they know nothing.

    • " I've never been to a place that is more egalitarian and tolerant and colourblind than modern Australia, nor one that offers so much opportunity to any person regardless of class, religion, race, colour, or socio-economic background. It doesn't just pay lip service to this, either."

      Canada does it better. Hate to say it, but its true.

      • I have heard this too.

        Must be the reason behind the whole 'blame Canada' thing. Jealousy ^^.

        If I ever go overseas it'll be to visit Canada.

        Or possibly Kiwiland, I haven't decided.

  11. As for the KFC ad, it's not about America. It's about cricket. Americans saw "black" people in the crowd, I saw: "West Indian cricket fans", who have been coming to Oz for decades and are much-loved in this country (how does that square with the notion of racism). The fried chicken/black person stereotype doesn't exist in Oz, nor is is even known until now.

    That furore says more about America's cultural insularity and its penchant for filtering every experience through the prism of its own cultural history, which certainly doesn't apply in Australia.

    That's unbelievably arrogant, and also says a lot about America's own baggage in regard to its shockig history of racism; a country founded on a gross lie and a myth about life, liberty, freedom and the pursuit of happiness for all men while some who were the wrong colour were working in white kitchens and cotton planations.

    It took a good 200 years for good intent to catch up to reality in the US when it came to freedom for everyone.

    Which might be why Aussies found it so onerous being lectured on racism by Americans, of all people.

  12. KFC is an American company so not sure of the point. India/Australia had a stoush when a black Australian player was called monkey. Monkey is a term many Indians call black people and is racist. Some of the attackers of Indians have been black. So the whole KFC, KKK connection is based on racist asumption and not fact. In fact I have never such a lack of facts in my life on this story and shows the internet is basically worthless for information.

  13. Yeah, the whole thing's become bizarre.

    KFC Australia is owned by an Australian company. The ad was made for Australian consumption only, and was about cricket, at a time when the West Indies team were touring Australia, which few Americans would understand. Didn't stop them jumping in with their unwelcome, hot-air opinions though – based as usual only on their own cultural experience.

    They forget Australia isn't part of America and we don't have the same stereotypes they do. Eating fried chicken has no racist connotation here, nor does sitting in a group of rowdy West Indies cricket fans.

    The awkardness comes from being the only Aussie fan in the noisy Windies bay.

  14. touche !

  15. Correction.

    The pakis, lankans, koreans and hey ho we aussies are all copping it when it comes to crime stats. we can't officially tell cuz the police dont record ethnicity at a crime.

    the numbers that the Indians are spouting come from the dossier that Brumby gave to the Indians.

    those few cases have been face savers. our name is mud in the intl media thanks to reckless reporting

    more importantly we miss this bigger picture………India's throwing its weight about cuz it knows it can. not ten years ago, but now's a different story.

    The Indians who come here dont come here as refugees…they are mostly cash laden students or professionals like doctors and IT folks. If we need their money and skills we've got to offer them the option of not going back to their country in bodybags.

    I know a lot of Indian folks who are absolutely outraged at perceived wrongs and will willingly walk, taking with them OUR jobs, good trade opportunities and desperately needed skills.

  16. Summary: unbalanced, sensationalist reporting perpetuates/escalates the social crisis. Which is why I was angry with this reporter.

    Besides which, I truly hope you don't think the incidents are comparable. Murder and/or assault vs nicking a barmat?

    One thing that must be said about the Australian media – no matter how much they pandered to Corby's sob story aspect in the telling of the whole tale, I don't recall them coming out and stating she must be innocent because she's Aussie, or because of her race. (If there were any, I didn't read them). I believe there were outlets actually releasing stories from persons who supposedly knew Corby and knew her to be into drugs. Or was that her sister?

    You can't say the same about the Indian media in recent months (with some exceptions).

    News on the internet is not confined by national boundaries. Internet news can be read anywhere. This makes the need for balanced reporting from internet news organisations more a necessity than anywhere or any time before.

  17. The University of Manitoba sponsors this crap?

  18. As an Australian I take great offense at all US and Canadian media that use the word (dare I say it) " ROOT" to refer to supporting a sports team. Everyone knows that in Australia "root" means to make oneself sexually available. The continued use by North Americans of this term is culturally insensitive and sexist. Please remove all references to this word in all North American media.

  19. Nah, every time I hear North Americans say they're "rooting for a team", I get a good giggle out of it and think: "hope you're too sore later". The other one is fanny … a word NOT to be used in polite conservation in Australia. The pitfalls are many.

    Also: thong. In Australia, essential beach footwear, in America: barely there women's undies.

    No wonder the girls behind the counter at the Manhattan Beach surf shop I went into years ago on a trip to LA and needing new beach footwear looked surprised when I asked where their thongs were, and whether I could look at them.

    It's illustrative, though. One should never assume that what's right in one culture is also right in another

  20. What a poorly written and thoroughly unresearched 'article' this is.

    It reminds me of someone with a fake law degree from a diploma mill trying to pass themselves off as a lawyer.

    Cameron – best find something else to do

  21. If you did a little homework, jensk, you might find that the same facts can be found in other sources (BBC, Telegraph, Guardian, Australia news outlets, etc. It's okay not to agree with something but your accusation of this being an unresearched article is totally wrong.

  22. if australia was a racist country i wouldnt be here today.A simple fact that cant be ignored or misinterpreted.

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