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Attention Sorosophobes/philes: We’ve hit the big time, y’all.


 

OMG OMG! You’ll never believe this — like, moments after typing up the final entry in my liveblog of the Avaaz.ca campaign launch, who should appear in front of me but a friendly neighbourbood John Baird campaign staffer, bearing a stack of freshly printed press releases bearing the fabulously evocative headline: “SHADOWY FOREIGN ORGANIZATION ATTEMPTING TO INFLUENCE CANADIAN ELECTION” – which would be awesome enough all on its own, but the subhead made it even better: Apparently – their words, not mine – a “Wall Street Billionaire” is “bankrolling [the] campaign”.

What Wall Street Billionaire might that be? Oh, my ears and whiskers, you’ll never guess — the man whose very existence can spark six American C/conservative conspiracy theories before breakfast: George Soros. Soros! We’ve finally arrived on the world stage, and can take our seat before the One World Government New World Order Star Chamber.

Except — wait, why does this release keep using the words “apparently” and “supposedly” to describe Soros involvement with Avaaz? And why doesn’t it offer any evidence to back up the claim that sinister Sorosian dollars are funding the group – or its Canadian arm – and states only that it is is “supposedly bankrolled” through MoveOn.org? I mean, even a citation from Wikipedia would be better than nothing, right? But it doesn’t even include one of those – although it does remind us that Soros made more than a billion dollars when he “broke the Bank of England” in 1992.

Anyway, the Baird campaign has filed an official complaint with Elections Canada over the involvement of this “foreign organization”, and is seeking an injunction to prevent Avaaz.ca from launching its ad campaign targeting Baird and others. (Isn’t that a lot like the ‘gag order’ on third parties that a certain former National Citizens Coalition president fought all the way to the Supreme Court?) ITQ will keep y’all posted on any and all developments.


 

Attention Sorosophobes/philes: We’ve hit the big time, y’all.

  1. Tie me kangaroo down sport,
    tie me kangaroo down.
    Tie me kangaroo down sport,
    tie me kangaroo down.

  2. Wow, and I thought it was just us drug legalizers who were the target of Soros-haters.

  3. Nice snarkiness Kady. As I recall, the Supreme Court said that private citizens are not allowed to express their opinions.

    How Liberal of you to insinuate that Harper has double standards because he expects the left to play by the same rules that the right are forced to.

  4. I guess we’ll have to wait for Elections Canada to make a determination as to whether Avaaz – which has registered as a third party, by the way – is playing by the rules.

  5. How Liberal of you to insinuate that Harper has double standards because he expects the left to play by the same rules that the right are forced to.

    Good point.

    It would be much better to insinuate that Harper has double standards because, after a decade of fustigating against those mean ol’ unelected Librul judges overturning laws enacted by the elected Parliament (or House of Commons, anyway) by invoking the Stupid Charter, Stephen Harper went and, emmm, asked those mean ol’ unelected Librul judges to overturn laws enacted by the elected Parliament (or House of Commons, anyway) by invoking the Stupid Charter.

    IT’S THE STUPID CHARTER!

  6. The offices of Avaaz.ca, the “SHADOWY FOREIGN ORGANIZATION” … are located in, wait for it, Ottawa, Canada.

  7. Riiiight Kady…we’ll wait for EC’s impartial ruling.

    The same EC that tells Liberals to rip down Conservatives campaign signs, and tells NDP supporters that a landlord can force them to take down signs in their windows.

    They have a WONDERFUL track record of being impartial.

    Yet you, and the rest of the media, continue to fall back on the position that they are impartial, trustworthy, and competent.

  8. Well – heavens – the next thing you know – some liberal fellow travellers will be setting up shop outside Baird’s offices railing about closet gays…
    these Liberals will stop at nothing…

  9. I’d be intensly amused by the whole shadowy men on a shadowy planet thing if I hadn’t figured out already the Conservatives tend to be their own best source for inspiriration.

  10. Yes! We have a ConBot talking-point: “Elections Canada is a corrupt, discredited institution,” which is why the Conservatives are seeking its counsel.

  11. David. What is the law on the books RIGHT NOW?

    Not, what does Harper want the law to say, but what IS it?

    Stating that somebody has double standards because they feel that the law should apply to everybody equally, even if/whilst they are trying to change the law, is simply juvenile.

    Or am I a hypocrite for following the law while trying to change it?

  12. A little bit of Leftist Mental Disorder.

  13. So intelligent Ti-Guy. Wow. Your ability to call people names is bloody brilliant. Where did you learn to do that?

    I am not, nor have ever been, a member of any political party. I’m just disgusted by the gutter politics, partisanship, gotcha reporting, and general level of ignorance that the electorate displays in this country.

    EC has a history of not knowing their head from their a$$. Ignore it if it makes you feel better, but sooner or later, somebody needs to question the competency of this group.

  14. Your ability to call people names is bloody brilliant. Where did you learn to do that?

    From this:

    Yet you, and the rest of the media, continue to fall back on the position that they are impartial, trustworthy, and competent.

    …although I’m piker when it comes to defamation that has any real gravitas, obviously.

  15. David, I think the proper netiquette is to use quotes or italics.

    But, in the spirit of downunderness, I thing this ditty is more apropos:

    My boomerang won’t come back,
    My boomerang won’t come back,
    I’ve waved the thing all over the place,
    Practised till I was black in the face,
    I’m a big disgrace to the Aborigine race,
    My boomerang won’t come back.

    “Don’t worry, boy, I know the trick,
    And to you I’m gonna show it.
    If you want your boomerang to come back,
    Well first you’ve got to… throw it.”

  16. The fact that Elections Canada authorized the Liberal Party to rip down legitimate CPC lawn signs in PEI is a real issue and has not received anywhere near enough atention in the MSM.

    It certainly raises legitimate questions of competence at Elections Canada, if not bias.

  17. It certainly raises legitimate questions of competence at Elections Canada, if not bias.

    Probably far fewer questions of real import than the In-and-Out scandal, but never mind.

  18. If Soros is bankrolling Avaaz, why do they keep sending me emails trying to get my freaking money?

  19. Quick question: why is a shadowy foreign organization holding press conferences and hosting web sites? Doesn’t seem very shadowy to me at all.

  20. Does the pamphlet include the phrase “New York intellectuals” in there anywhere?

    (Looks like the ol’ Reformers are going back to their roots. If not their hoods.)

  21. Two Cents: the CPC signs didn’t have an authorization on them. They were illegal. And since CP moved a story on it, I’d hardly say it was ignored by the press…

    “Nobody knew where (the signs) were from because there did not appear to be any authorized official agent,” Kane said. “A call was made to Elections Canada and Elections Canada told them to take them down.”

    link

  22. You know – I’ve come to the conclusion that the CPC party are really sick people. Really, really sick.

    …and so paranoid.

    Everyone bad, bad but them, in spite of all their scandals of late.

    CPC are getting really pathetic.

  23. And since CP moved a story on it, I’d hardly say it was ignored by the press…

    Tim, he said it didn’t get ENOUGH attention. The media is liberal unless they deliver the exact number of articles on the exact topics that conservatives want.

  24. I think the saddest moment I can remember in politics in the last decade or so was STephen Harper blaming Elections Canada for the in and out investigations. Reading his statement I realized this wasn’t just a hail mary desperation ploy, I came to understand this fool actually BELIEVED the ridiculous spin he was crafting. That was when I realized that even if they clean up their policy a bit, they’re still the same old bat-crazy reformers.

  25. 1. Ripping down unauthorized signs of the CPC

    or,

    2. cutting the brake lines of cars and vandalizing the homes and property of LPC supporters

    Hmmm…I wonder which is the more contemptible conspiracy…

    Austin

  26. The level of commentary on this blog sure reflects the intellect of the left.

  27. Or am I a hypocrite for following the law while trying to change it?

    It’s funny how “judicial activism” is bad when practiced by lesbian bookstores in Vancouver and such, but noble and just when practiced by right-wing tank-thinkers from Calgary.

    Make up yer mind.

  28. Bruce–Try reading every other comment. Might work for you.

  29. Austin So

    Do you have any proof that it’s Con supporters cutting brake lines? Why aren’t you suspicious of dippers or greens. Its been my experience lefties are the believers of ‘the personal is political’ though I doubt it’s any party’s supporters.

  30. Trent: It’s called “workin’ the ref.” It’s a strategy, but that’s all it is.

    (And it looks like Kady ain’t likely to be influenced by it, either.)

    Mike: Remember, a lot of conservatives, like Republicans, are zealots. They will do anything, say anything, to aid the cause. Lying, cheating, stealing, all of it is in the service of A Greater Truth.

    That doesn’t mean that belief is bad. Belief is GOOD. The Liberals’ biggest flaw is that too many reflexively hug an illusory center, instead of re-engaging with their own beliefs as small-l liberals. But there are limits.

  31. The Liberals’ biggest flaw is that too many reflexively hug an illusory center, instead of re-engaging with their own beliefs as small-l liberals. But there are limits.

    I’d have to agree with that. There was a period during which Liberals such as myself, not terribly enamoured with politics, were lulled into a false sense of security that small-l liberals in authority (in academia, in business and in the media) knew what they were talking about. But after decades of viewing everything as essentially political, they lost the ability to examine reality.

    There is no “centre;” there are simply issues the require evidence-based examination and analysis, after which approaches are proposed and are supported depending what one’s values are: liberal or conservative or libertarian or socialist. But there really isn’t any “centre.”

    What there is horse-trading and compromise, but that’s something that should only pre-occupy politicians in Parliament, not citizens.

  32. jwl… not sure if Austin So is saying CPC supporters are cutting the brake lines, just that the brake lines story is much more deserving of attention.

    Today I’m mostly hearing about the economy and efects, which generally pushses all other things off the table, legitimate or otherwise.

    The people cutting the brake lines are likely supproters of one party and haters of the Liberals, but one can be sure that the party they support DOESN’T support them and would distance themselves as far away from those people as possible. If they appeared to have any official connection to the party beyond membership or a donation, I’m sure they’d be fired, denounced, ridiculed and the party in question would be apologizing hugely.

    But I highly doubt such troglodytes would be members of a party let alone donate or be a volunteer.

  33. Avaaz aims to raise $100,000 in order to target three ridings, one held by Baird.

    In other words they expect to “fleece the sheeple” out of $100,000.

    The Liberals can hardly get their party faithful to donate to their own party.

    Good luck with that.

  34. Imaging the wall to wall coverage in every paper, every magazine, on every channel,

    if a Republican “neocon” 527 was funding a pro-Harper ad.

    But they tilt left so its restricted to some mild mocking on a single thread on a blog post.

    Balance

  35. Well Kody, 3rd parties are allowed to spend up to 150 grand on 3rd party advertising according to Canadian election law, so I’m not really sure what you’re bellyaching about.

  36. Bruce:

    I left this earlier, but apparently Macleans is picky about leaving links in messages. So, all I’ll say is if you look at the Avaaz “Stop Harper” page, you’ll see they’ve ALREADY raised 103 000$.

    So they don’t need luck – just a lot of people who dislike Harper and the direction he’s taking us on the environment – and I’d say they’ve found that. (expanded their goal to reach the aforementioned 150 grand limit as well).

    Little disclaimer at the bottom of their funding bar says: “Please note: Donations accepted from Canadian citizens only. Donations over $200 are publicly disclosed to Elections Canada.”

  37. In other words they expect to “fleece the sheeple” out of $100,000.

    The only sheeple around here are the ConBots. Remember how the Conservatives were fleeced during the disastrous Israel-Hezbollah war? When the faithful were being asked to donate on the strength of Harper’s “moral clarity?”

    Now that’s fleecing…shagging, in fact.

  38. I guess Baird didn’t like the boppy new, anti-Harper song on the avaaz.ca website…

  39. Well Kody, 3rd parties are allowed to spend up to 150 grand on 3rd party advertising according to Canadian election law, so I’m not really sure what you’re bellyaching about.

    But they’re saying they’re only targeting three ridings. $150K / 3 = $50K per riding = over the Elections Canada limit, no? Third parties can only spend abotu $3K in any single riding, I thought.

  40. Commented on the prior thread, before seeing ITQ’s own post on this very point, so here goes again:

    Hmm, an internationally-based organization seeking to interfere with the democratic process in Canada. Not classy. Not illegal in my books (although given all the stupid restrictions on free speech the Canada Elections Act does impose on our own citizens, one wonders whether this should be so tolerated), but most certainly not classy.

    I couldn’t care less whether it was a billionaire or a billion hippies behind it, it is most certainly NOT neighbourly to influence a democratic country’s elections. It stinks.

  41. Anyone else find the irony in Baird’s campaign website sporting a picture of Harper & Baird against a hazy & polluted urban skyline complete with plumes of smoke, with the caption “PROTECTING NATURAL RESOURCES AND BUILDING A CLEAN ENERGY SUPERPOWER”?

    http://www.johnbaird.com/

  42. If they’ve already raised $103,000 that just means there are more sheeple fleeced in a shorter ammount of time and that the Liberals still can’t get their own to donate to their own party.

    Who still has leadership contest debts to pay?

  43. The CPC filing a complaint with Elections Canada? Well, isn’t that rich?!

    Say, didn’t the party vote against the House motion to show support and respect for EC, never mind the lawsuit for not getting their In & Out refunds?

    So many questions!

  44. You lefties are sure a laugh, one poll counts and that’s election day, don’t forget to load up on anti-Leftist Mental Disorder pills.

    Just before the last election Paul Martin claimed that the Liberals would win the largest majority in Canadian history, according to the polls.

  45. Holey Schmoley, Kady et al…are you all being deliberately ignorant or are you missing the point just for kicks?

    Can you imagine if the NRA said they were spending $150,000 to defeat three (!!!) Liberal candidates and openly supporting Conservatives? The hue and cry about evil American organizations trying to usurp the democratic process would be unbelievable.

    At the end of the day – that’s what this group is doing – by targeting three candidates, they are WAAAAY exceeding the Elections Act for expenditures by a third party per riding.

    Secondly, I agree with madeyoulook – not cool for an American organization to be trying to influence the democratic process in Canada. If I was a voter in one of these three ridings I’d be mightily upset.

    Finally, LeslieE – I don’t know what you’re definition of a “shadowy foreign organization” is, but AVAAZ.ca’s mailing address on their website says they are located 857 Broadway, 3rd floor, New York, NY 10003, U.S.A.

    That’s about 720km from the corner of Bank and Queen…practically right around the corner. Might not be shadowy, but certainly foreign.

  46. Wow, Kady! I never cease to be amazed at how the rabble can get roused in the Comments to the ITQ blog. More importantly, nice one with the Alice in Wonderland reference. Oh, my ears and whiskers, indeed!

  47. So, ya really think the NRA hasn’t sent money or “resources” into Canada to influence elections ?

    And there hasn’t been American money seeding the expansion of advocacy “think tanks” all across the land. Including probably the NCC?

    Can I have some of that stuff?

  48. Can you imagine if the NRA said they were spending $150,000 to defeat three (!!!) Liberal candidates and openly supporting Conservatives?

    This is poor, even by ConBot standards. What are they putting in the water cooler at Conservative HQ?

  49. Friends of Science and The Economy of Fort Calgary West Texas are taking who to court ?

  50. That Avaaz group founder/organizer (Ricken Patel) might have some ’splaining to do. Seems that while he has Canadian citizenship, he actually is an American and lives and works in New York.

    He’s no longer eligible to even vote in a Canadian election since he has been out of Canada for more than 5 years. The Avaaz organization is also based out of New York city.

    Do we REALLY want outsiders influencing our electoral process?

  51. Sources?

  52. Why would that matter to the Liberals, a party that has not paid back the missing $40 million from Adscam?

    Gomery called them “criminally organized”.

    Liars, cheats and thieves.

    What about Dingwall’s, “I’m entitled to my entitlements”, that pretty much sums up the Lieberal attitude.

  53. I am surprised- still- at the lengths the Conservatives go on forums like this to demonstrate their thin skinned reactions and warped view… ‘this (slight and silly) issue didn’t get enough attention’ when it’s engative for the their opponents and ‘why aren’t we talking about the real issues’ when it’s negative for them.

    Another trend I am begginning to despise is when the Conservative Crybabies trot out “gotcha journalism” when their opponents reveal something… look it up people. The Liberals, NDP and Greens aren’t journalists for starters… isn’t it time you guys packed up your toys and cried all the way home?

  54. Why would that matter to the Liberals, a party that has not paid back the missing $40 million from Adscam?

    Yay. Thread’s over!

  55. Interestingly enough, it turned out dingwall WAS entitled to his entitlements…

  56. Paid out by a Liberal government, big suprise Mike T and Ti-Guy it’s never over.

    Leftist Mental Disorder can be cured in some cases, but unfortunately only for a very few.

  57. The sky has been falling since the subprime crisis broke in August 2007 and I haven’t been paying attention to the various policies the government has been putting in place since October 2007.

    Wait, I have an alternative plan.

    Let’s convene a meeting of the government’s advisers, who are already meeting regularly with the current government, 30 days after the election to ask them what to do.

    Or, we could scare voters by suggesting Canada’s solid as a rock financial system is falling apart so they rush and put their money in mattresses.

    If it’s so important, why not have your meeting before the election and tell us what the experts propose since you have no idea yourself?

  58. Leftist Mental Disorder can be cured in some cases, but unfortunately only for a very few.

    I’m not a leftist, you cretin.

  59. cretin? PLagiarism!!!!!

  60. Cretin was your leader and is a former PM.

    And yes you are.

  61. “Interestingly enough, it turned out Dingwall WAS entitled to his entitlements…”

    But were his entitlements dingwalled to Dingwall? No one ever followed that one up.

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