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Last week’s conventional wisdom: Stephane Dion is a whiny wuss who can’t make a decision.

This week’s conventional wisdom: Stephane Dion is a stubborn jerk who can’t be persuaded to change his mind.

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  1. In other words, it takes him forever to make a decision, and he still makes the wrong one?

  2. “Last week’s conventional wisdom: Stephane Dion is a whiny wuss who can’t make a decision.”

    I don’t recall that being last week’s conventional wisdom at all. I remember an awful lot of stories that used anon sources, who were trying to cover their own behinds before the s*#t hits the fan, claiming Dion took his own council and didn’t listen to anyone else.

    And his press conference performance reinforced perception that he’s self centred jerk who believes Canadians are too dumb to recognize genius when it’s right before their eyes.

  3. Dion was not given a chance because he does not present a commanding figure suitable for riding his horse into battle followed by his army but, when has the prime minister lead a charge into battle. Isn’t it about time we started looking for other qualities in a leader?

  4. Better a jerk than a wuss.

    Canadians like FoxNewsNorth and fascism. With that as a relative comparison?

    Dion is brilliant.

  5. Wingnuts call the type of stubbornness they like “courage of conviction” or “principle.”

  6. But Dion has been battle tested and scarred, literally fighting for his country on the frontlines of Quebec, using his principles and convictions, and by using reason and clarity as his weapons. During that fight he often led the battle alone on his horse, and actually faced down a more vicious horde than today, unbelievably enough, including his own party then as well.

  7. How about petty and sad. Couldn’t admit at least PART of the blame falls on his shoulders? It was all money and stupid voters not seeing through Con propaganda…

  8. KRT, exactly. He’s a Joachim Murat type. First guy you want in a cavalry charge, last guy you want exercising independent command.

  9. Jack, I don’t know, as someone who lived through the referendum and its aftermath, not to mention a father moving his anglo family into rural Quebec in the 70s, I would much prefer to spill blood with a proven warrior than someone with a sweater as a shield.

  10. Stéphane Dion: Too Much Of A Leader!

    Stéphane Dion: Insufficiently Bilingual Compared To Anglo Press Gallery!

    Stéphane Dion: Not Green Enough!

    Stéphane Dion: Excessively Cynical!

    Stéphane Dion: Is His French Good Enough?

    Stéphane Dion: Closet Separatist!

    Stéphane Dion: Not A Real Intellectual!

    Stéphane Dion: He Only Likes Easy Fights.

    Stéphane Dion: Bully.

    Stéphane Dion: Hates Questions & Open Discussion.

    Stéphane Dion: Sometimes Forgets To Give Rae & Iggy Their Wake-Up Calls!

    Stéphane Dion: Mike Harris With A Funny Accent.

    Stéphane Dion: Not A Team Player (says anonymous Liberal).

    Stéphane Dion: What’s He Ever Done For Canada, Anyway?

    Stéphane Dion: Anyone Could Have Fought Separatists (there were lots of takers at time, says senior liberal source).

    Stéphane Dion: Hates Women!

    Stéphane Dion: Hates Women Candidates Even More!

    Stéphane Dion: Hates the Poor & Middle Class!

    Stéphane Dion: Who Needs Him When You Have Joe Volpe Waiting In the Wings!

  11. Dion’s always been stubborn.

    He was stubborn against the separatists on television. That got him to Ottawa.

    He was stubborn on the Clarity Act. That won him the love of English Canada.

    He was stubborn after Martin turfed him and tried to take over his riding association. That got him back in cabinet.

    He was stubborn in the leadership race. That won him the leadership.

    He was stubborn on the Green Shift. That (and Tory branding) lost him the election.

    And now we’re surprised he’s still stubborn? The man makes Stephen Harper look positively Gumby-like.

    Which is why I’m glad the Liberals are dumping him — I think he’d have turned things around and had a decent shot at winning the next election.

    I admire stubbornness, and I (still) admire Dion.

  12. Conventional wisdom from who? Reporters? Pundits?

    Wisdom is certainly not a quality I have seen in most of the Canadian media lately…

  13. Eugene: No one EVER said Dion was “Too Much of a Leader” – sorry.

  14. At the end of the day, if one cannot control his or her own party members to some extent (by control, I mean inspire loyalty, create consensus, galvanize diverse interests into a reasonably singular purpose and goal, etc.), then that person has failed as a leader. All the admirable qualities and innovative vision in the world (and Dion possesses these in abundance) amounts to nothing if you don’t have firm control of the troops.

    It may well be that the Liberal party of 2008 is impossible to mobilize and lead effectively. That said, there seems to be at least some credible evidence that Dion did not bring enough of his own party on board to succeed (this would have involved a combination of flexibility, listening to the ideas of others, and compromise, all balanced with strict discipline).

    Today’s decision seems like a continuation of poor leadership – at least so far as internal party dynamics are concerned.

  15. Rather, he’s a whiny wuss that won’t share his toys.

  16. I wish someone would tell the obnoxious and juvenile “Darren Trent” to shut up.

    I’m far too civil to do that myself, of course.

  17. Conservatives may have succeeded in creating a first impression of Dion but it was Dion during the last 2 and a half years as leader, during the 37 days of campaigning, during the 5 days of seclusion behind the doors of Stornoway and finally the classless, bitter news conference that has created the lasting impression; a man out of his depth and, while basically a decent human being, not possessing the qualities needed to be PM of this wonderful country.

  18. T-guy:I wish..blah, blah, blah..shut up.

    Haha, now you know how everyone in the Canadian blogosphere feels about you.

  19. You’re a bit obnoxious and juvenile yourself Ti-guy.

  20. Yeah, but I don’t start it. Not like the feculent Darren Trench.

  21. Within seconds of Dion’s announcement, CTV reporter Robert Fife said that Dion is deluded and “lives in a fantasy world”, one where Dion still believes he can return to power somehow – including defeating the government on its budget in February. Any opposition party that forces another election in the next four years will be severely punished by voters, because Canadians have seen way too many federal elections in recent years, with each one costing taxpayers $300 million.

    Dion’s refusal to step down now flies in the face of what a majority of Liberals have said must be done now — including former Liberal Party president Stephen LeDrew: reform and rebuild the party completely and then, and only then, go about finding a new leader.

    By hanging on, despite being despised by the majority of his own party members, Dion delays the inevitable and, essentially, guarantees the total annihilation of the Liberal Party.

    As CTV reporter Fife also noted, Dion has refused to accept responsibility for the Liberals’ failure in the last election. Instead, he blames all his troubles on the Conservative ad campaign. According to Dion, Canadians believed Conservative propaganda on his Green Shift plan and therefore didn’t vote for him. As Fife explains, this is not true, because senior Liberals told Dion not to go ahead with the Green Shift plan, because it would be a disaster. Dion, stubborn as always, rejected their advice and went ahead with the Green Shift.

    Let’s make no mistake about it: According to Dion, Canadians were so stupid because they believed the Conservative “ad campaign propaganda” about his “Green Shift” plan.

    Yes, it’s all the Conservatives’ fault, and the fault of Canadian voters who are “as stupid as a bag of hammers” — but it’s certainly not Monsieur “Citoyen” Dion’s fault, oh no!

    Prediction: Keep your eyes open for Liberal MPs crossing the floor over to the Conservatives in the near future. Once they realize that their party is not only on death’s doorstep, but has actually already crossed over to the other side, they will look out for their own personal interests and join the government instead.

    Looks like the Liberal Party of Canada will now suffer the same fate as its counterpart in the U.K…..

  22. @Werner Patels: I think your tinfoil hat is on a bit too tight.

    And, since you haven’t been paying attention, CTV’s Bob Fife (as many blog commenters have pointed out) is a partisan hack for the Conservatives (not a “reporter”), and has been for many months. So, pretty much everything he says is suspect.

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