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BTC: Names please


 

From Friday’s Globe story on the bus beheading. 

“Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called Thursday’s incident horrific and said his heart goes to the family of the victim. However, he played down the possibility of enacting tough security measures in Canada’s bus terminals, similar to what exists in airports…

“He also dismissed talk by some opposition MPs of a ‘knife registry,’ saying that millions of them are bought each year simply for kitchen use. He added that there are already provisions in the Criminal Code against crimes and assaults.”

As a Liberal blogger asks, who are these unnamed opposition MPs lobbying for a knife registry? Let them present themselves so that they may be good and truly mocked.

A Google search finds nothing. But a quick look through Parliamentary records shows two uses of the phrase “knife registry.”

The most recent mention was sarcastically made May 15, 2007 at a committee hearing by Daniel Petit, a Conservative and, therefore, a government member.

The last opposition MP to raise the specter of a knife registry? That would be Conservative Gord Brown, who made equally ironic mention of such a thing in asking a question on April 15, 2005. Brown, not to be confused with the man who is presently running Britain, now joins Petit on the government backbenches.

But perhaps the Minister is blessed with better sources. His portfolio, mind you, does include CSIS.

(All of which assumes the accuracy of the Globe account. The Post’s version makes no mention of our mystery members.)


 

BTC: Names please

  1. Day’s trying to weave a fabrication from his own cloth, how ironic! But i’m expecting some Canwest sloppery to print the headline: Liberals to ban cutlery.

  2. THis was impeccable timing. I have to take a bus from: Vancouver to Edmonton, Edmonton to Winnipeg, Winnipeg to Toronto, Toronto to Montreal, Montreal to Quebec City, Quebec City to Chicoutimi on Sunday. Then, just two weeks later, I have to take one from Quebec City to Montreal. Not that I’m nervous.

  3. I’m a conservative, but Stockwell Day is dead wrong. Greyhound bus passengers need metal detectors so people can travel in assurance.
    Oh ya, and the guy who did this crime should walk the plank in the mid- Atlantic, then hang from the yard arm, without a burial…let the vultures have their day…

  4. Thank you for this information, Aaron. I have been searching high and low for those names. Glad to see that the problem wasn’t with my researching skills.

  5. Maybe Day was thinking of reports from UK.

    They are having a terrible time with knife crime right now in England and lots of outlandish ideas are being proposed on how to reduce it.

    When I was living there they were talking about banning knives over a certain length so that you could still stab people but their organs would be ok.

  6. The bizarre and horrific nature of this crime tilts one towards the view that the perpetrator did it because “the voices” told him to. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that he is a schizophrenic who was off his meds.

    That said, maybe Stockwell Day was citing “some opposition MPs” the same way the main stream media cites “critics” without naming them when they report on government initiatives. Most people knows this is MSM code for me, the reporter. The reporter doesn’t like what is proposed so inserts his or her opinion via an attribution to unamed “critics” so the report seems objective and fair.

  7. Well done Mr. Wherry!

    I was wondering the very same thing when I read the quote yesterday.

    BTC is a wonderful resource indeed.

  8. JMD,

    It was the G&M citing oppposition MPs, not Day.

    “He also dismissed talk by some opposition MPs of a “knife registry,” saying that millions of them are bought each year simply for kitchen use.”

    Some sloppy reporting by the G&M; it’s not clear from the context whether the reference to opposition MPs was made by Day or by reporters, or whether a current opposition MP actually suggested this idiotic idea in response to this incident.

  9. The article doesn’t quote Day as raising the issue of MP’s. It states that he dismissed such suggestions. In other words, someone else could have brought it up, like a reporter.

  10. Dennis. I saw the press conference. Day brought it up on his own.

  11. Indeed knb. The clip of Day saying as much played on CBC.

  12. As in a transcript of the press conference?

  13. You said you heard it. How about transcribing it on here? Anything that tells us what he actually said.

  14. Right, Dennis. Because I have nothing better to do then just watch press conferences and transcribe them just in case someone wants an excerpt.

  15. I can’t find any clips Dennis, but Day was asked about considerations for increased security at bus terminals and within his response he threw in something like ‘and I’ve even heard rumours on Parliament Hill about a knife registry’.

    I know it’s only my word, but that’s the best I can do.

  16. Well, “rumours on Parliament Hill” is different than “some MP’s”, right?

    I mean, if we’re going to hound the guy, let’s know what we’re hounding him for.

  17. Dennis

    I think Liberals and Conservatives see the role of bureaucracy differently. Libs seem to encourage the bureaucrats to give advice whereas Cons want them to follow orders.

    I prefer the Conservative belief, they are there to follow orders, to implement policy.

  18. Ignore my post. I thought I was on the He Haunts Them Still thread.

  19. Ah a search thru parliment records isnt going to do much good considering its ajourned right now and the knife registry comment was probably only recently raised either by a reporter directly or raised by way of “mp such and such proposed a knife registry what is your opinion”

  20. “Rumours on Parliament Hill” almost sounds like a joke rather than a sincere commitment to fighting the scourge of the knife registry.

  21. Day is quite wisely pandering to those who are willing to believe anything they want to hear.

  22. Just to clarify, I’ve no reason to doubt the Globe’s account. Indeed, a first-rate television producer tells me that a tape of the Day press conference confirms it was the Minister who introduced the idea of opposition MPs and a knife registry.

  23. It’s on page 42 of the CON handbook: raising a scary spectre for CON advantage. No attribution necessary, due to the guilibility and alignment of certain columnists/editors.
    Even with a horrific tragedy as this, the Harper men seem to see it as a moment for scoring points.
    What wise and brave souls lead us.

  24. “How can it be pandering if they’re willing to believe anything?”

    spank me

  25. you wish

  26. Oh, so now you’re back to believing that people who will believe anything must be pandered to, eh?
    OK.

  27. I’m pandering to you.

  28. But you’re not telling me what I want to hear, so how can you be pandering to me?

    You should have quite after the first spanking, buddy.

  29. “But you’re not telling me what I want to hear, so how can you be pandering to me?”

    by responding at all

  30. Geiseric, I suggest you look up the word “pandering”, and quit being so lame, will ya? You’ve now spent how many posts trying to justify a hackjob of a post?

  31. If any MPs actually suggested a knife registry like Day says they did the blogosphere would be slathered with their names. If counting oon the likes of you in his defense isn’t pandering nothing is.

  32. That’s a hell of an accusation from someone who obviously doesn’t know what pandering means, nor is capable of basic logic. Thanks for showing up.

  33. what’s obvious is basis logic is all you’re capable of

  34. typo. should read “basic logic” which, if it is to be useful at all, should at least start with some basis in reality.

    from various onlines…

    To cater to the lower tastes and desires of others or exploit their weaknesses

    a person who caters to or profits from the weaknesses or vices of others

    a person who caters to or profits from the weaknesses or vices of others

    A man appeals to predjudice and willingness to make stuff up about our elected officials without concern of retribution he must figure he’s pandering to a large enough audience to make it worth the risk.

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