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Damien Corsetti, former U.S. Army interrogator. “I firmly believe it was torture and unfortunately I took part in it. I was a believer at one time, I was. I guess this is just me trying to make it a little bit right. You know? Maybe get some closure to it. We’ll see.”

Bill Kuebler, Navy Lt.-Cmdr. and Pentagon-appointed lawyer for Omar Khadr. “The ball is really in (Harper’s) court now to take this issue up and work out some sort of an arrangement with the U.S. government and with us that would bring Omar Khadr back to Canada under conditions that are good for Omar and would make Canadians comfortable about bringing him back.”

Radhika Coomaraswamy, the United Nations’ Special Representative for Children in Armed Conflict. “We agree that the trial of Omar Khadr will be a bad precedent and will undermine international legal protection for children.”

Jamil Dakwar, lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union. “This system is discredited and flawed and should not exist one day more, and certainly the signals that we hear from Washington, from the Obama transition team, are that he will act on it as soon as he is in office.”

In other news, Lawrence Cannon spent seven minutes on a Sunday TV chat show without commenting on or being asked about Mr. Khadr.


 

Compare/contrast

  1. The reason Lawrence Cannon was not asked about Khadr is that it is not at the top of mind for most Canadians – only a few lefties..

    • Since when does the left have a monopoly on upholding the rule of law?

      • Since the purported victim in question is vile enough for a sizable number of Canadians to conclude that the rule of law isn’t really all that important, in his case.

        • Allegedly vile enough, avr. Other then we all know that his family isnt the nicest, and we all know Omar was recruited at 13 and fighting at 15 and probably brainwashed in the process by his father, the US Army and Government has had 7 years to make a case against him and has failed to do so, only belatedly doing so in the last-gasp part of Bush’s administration in trying to pre-empt Obama from doing anything..

          .At any rate, as he was a child when he was brainwashed into fighting, so anything he allegedly did at that time has to be looked at under those lens.

          As for Canada, it would be a major step back for this country if we thought the rule of law shouldn’t apply to all…. but I know a lot of righties believe everyone should let Jack Bauer of 24 treat these guys however they wish, and screw the laws and rules. Fortunately, I dont think a mjaority believe that yet.

          • Static. White noise.

            Wherry’s whining impliedly asks why All Decent Canadians Aren’t Outraged. The answer is that the part of the country that doesn’t really care what happens to Omar Khadr is going to find criminal culpability irrelevant; he appears to be a monster, and his family is even less appealing. While few would admit wanting “Jack Bauer-style” justice, it’s very easy to passive-aggressively acquiesce to Khadr “getting what he deserves.” Those are hard political circumstances to make a procedural argument against.

  2. This has nothing to do with lefties or Jack Bauer. It is simply about the rule the law and on that basis, this whole affair is a major embarrassment to the States. Harper (and Martin before him) let us down badly by allowing the US to get away with this mess.

    Lawrence Cannon is showing himself to be another weak minister. He should be pilloried for his pathetic answers.

  3. avr,
    Using words like “vile” and “monster” is just silly, and the facts of the case undermine it utterly. When even the various military lawyers and prosecutors assigned to the case have thrown up their hands, then surely we should take some notice.

    Incredibly, the US military lawyer assigned to defend him has made all sorts of appeals to Canada to get involved in what has become a complete farce.

    I am pretty confident that most Canadians would be concerned if they were given the whole story.

    Of course Omar’s parents are a pretty disagreeable bunch and we would be better off without them in Canada. But this should not alter our approach to this case.

    Our politicians could have and should have shown some leadership in this by pointing out the issues at hand and providing a coherent position. Instead, they have effectively abnegated all responsibility.

    • I’m with you in this case. What’s so troubling is that presumably our pols know all this stuff. It started under the libs and continues under our present govt, why.? Is this payback for embarissing the Canadian govt? Remember the Chretien farce with O. Khadrs’s father? The inferences that can be drawn, that political grudges trump the rule of law may be just the way the world is, but we should protest anyway. As for avr and folks like him who think the law is only for the righteous and due process is irrelevant, it might come in handy some day, hope it’s still there after you’ve done yr best to undermine it?

  4. again, this is just ideology over everything. avr’s comments make that clear. ‘rule of law… who cares’. the underlying message is that you are either clearly and irrefutably with us, or you are against us and to hell with you. close minded and disgusting.

    • Agreed.

    • Not at all. Sling mud at me all you like; I’m just pointing out what I believe explains what you refuse to acknowledge – that there’s a reason why Canada hasn’t risen as one to vehemently demand Khadr’s repatriation.

      • “he appears to be a monster, and his family is even less appealing. While few would admit wanting “Jack Bauer-style” justice, it’s very easy to passive-aggressively acquiesce to Khadr “getting what he deserves.””

        you just made an arguement that someone does not deserve due process under the rule of law. I don;t need to ‘sling mud’ you’ve made clear your character on your own.

        • Show me where I said that I don’t believe he deserves due process. Oh, wait – I didn’t actually say that. I freely admit I think he’s a vile excuse for a human being, but that’s not quite the same thing, is it?

          Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

          • We don’t choose the families we are born with. Goodness, this child was brought into the world knowing nothing much else other than war and having been told millions of times that the americans are the enemy and that this being a war, he must kill them. It is a war, he was a child, he didn’t know any better, he never had the chance nor the ability to know any different.

            Try a bit of humility, a bit of introspection. It is very easy to stand up from your ivory tower avr and preach an eye for a eye, but the fact of the matter is, under his particular circumstances, I truly believe that incarcerating, and torturing him are not the proper option. He deserves a fair trial, just as anyone else who allegedly commits a crime. And hopefully he would be rehabilitated rather than be locked up for alleged crimes that were quite seriously out of his control.

      • But it’s not a very good reason.