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Megan Leslie’s second question for the Natural Resources Minister this afternoon.

Mr. Speaker, we really do have a minister for the 19th century because the Minister of Natural Resources fails to understand the impact of Conservative inaction on jobs, on the environment and on future generations. Instead, he attacks people who actually care about the environment. It makes me wonder if the minister actually believes in climate change. Is the minister a believer or a denier?

Joe Oliver said—”since we are into theology”—that he wished to inform the House that he believed “no project in Canada should go ahead unless it is safe for Canadians and safe for the environment. He proceeded with his complaints about “radicals” who are “are opposed to any development of hydrocarbons,” none of which seemed to answer Ms. Leslie’s question.

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  1. She surely will have asked the question with no real expectation that it would be answered. Indeed, the question and answer would bear no relevance to the subject under discussion anyway and therefore the minister was correct in declining to answer.  

    • Partisan goop — it’s all that we get in QP, from all sides.

  2. “ Is the minister a believer or a denier?”

    Good question. Ms Leslie is away with the fairies, where is Minister Oliver in debate?  

    WSJ ~ Jan 27 2012 ~ No Need To Panic About Global Warming:

    A candidate for public office in any contemporary democracy may have to consider what, if anything, to do about “global warming.” Candidates should understand that the oft-repeated claim that nearly all scientists demand that something dramatic be done to stop global warming is not true. In fact, a large and growing number of distinguished scientists and engineers do not agree that drastic actions on global warming are needed.

    Perhaps the most inconvenient fact is the lack of global warming for well over 10 years now. This is known to the warming establishment, as one can see from the 2009 “Climategate” email of climate scientist Kevin Trenberth: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.” But the warming is only missing if one believes computer models where so-called feedbacks involving water vapor and clouds greatly amplify the small effect of CO2.

    The lack of warming for more than a decade—indeed, the smaller-than-predicted warming over the 22 years since the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) began issuing projections—suggests that computer models have greatly exaggerated how much warming additional CO2 can cause. Faced with this embarrassment, those promoting alarm have shifted their drumbeat from warming to weather extremes, to enable anything unusual that happens in our chaotic climate to be ascribed to CO2.

  3. The fact he mentioned theology makes clear he is a denier.

    • Yep. Gosh, maybe he’s also a creationist like the Minister of Science, Gary Goodyear.

      • Hey, a talking point!

        • No just a good memory and a lasting resentment that the people running our government are so damned ignorant!

          Do you have any original thoughts?

          • You’re the one spewing tired, canned talking points.

            Pot meet kettle.

  4. The NDP wants to shut down virtually every natural resources project in Canada and send us back to the stone age; you can bet Harper is drooling at the prospect of taking that issue to the voters.

    • Unless Harper is going to once again ignore his fixed election date law, he’s just going to have to suck up that drool and keep moving ahead (or spinning his wheels or whatever the plan is).

    • And people accuse leftists of seeing a hidden agenda everywhere. Funny how that works.

    • “send us back to the stone age”

      What an ignorant and useless comment 

  5. We seem to have a wagon-load of unqualified, incompetent, know-nothing ministers.

    • Yep. Interesting how so many NDP leadership candidates are so much more intelligent than any Harper cabinet appointtee. Even some of the Liberal ones are smarter, too. :)

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    • One person’s train wreck is another’s train to glory.

  7. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tories-stop-short-of-400-million-home-retrofit-promise/article2319707/

    Theology my ass, the connies just don’t give a f**k. I guess Mr O needs some of that savings to finance his war on radicals and other adversaries and enemies of the state like First Nations? This has to be the most energy illiterate govt we’ve ever had the misfortune of sending to Ottawa. As Andrew Potter more or less said the other day, noone quite does stupid like the Harper Tories…and they’re proud of it too.

    • He called them the party of the “deeply stupid.” Yup.

      • Hey, it’s groupthink!

    • CPC = Coward’s Party of Canada.

  8. I wish Leslie would stop flapping her gums about all these ‘green’ jobs – Germany is up the creek and can’t afford to subsidize solar anymore.
     
    “The costs of subsidizing solar electricity have exceeded the 100-billion-euro mark in Germany, but poor results are jeopardizing the country’s transition to renewable energy. The government is struggling to come up with a new concept to promote the inefficient technology in the future.
     
    Solar energy has gone from being the great white hope, to an impediment, to a reliable energy supply. Solar farm operators and homeowners with solar panels on their roofs collected more than €8 billion ($10.2 billion) in subsidies in 2011, but the electricity they generated made up only about 3 percent of the total power supply, and that at unpredictable times. The distribution networks are not designed to allow tens of thousands of solar panel owners to switch at will between drawing electricity from the grid and feeding power into it. Because there are almost no storage options, the excess energy has to be destroyed at substantial cost. German consumers already complain about having to pay the second-highest electricity prices in Europe. Until now, Merkel had consistently touted the environmental sector’s “opportunities for exports, development, technology and jobs.” But now even members of her own staff are calling it a massive money pit.” http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,809439,00.html 

    • It’s a $5T market, boyo…and once again China is eating our lunch.

      But noooo we have to be snotty about it

      • In Emilyspeak, snotty = having the audacity to suggest that energy-producing enterprises be economically justified.

        • In Mr Beanspeak….sneering at $5T while fussing over his $5 pocketbook

  9. If one has taken any time to read the myriad (and increasingly frequent) studies pertaining to this issue, one would find it hard to come to any conclusion other than that the science is clearly pointing in the other direction than was the case in the previous decade.  Not only is the science not “settled”, the theory is actually being disproven.  The continued dramatic rise in temperatures is simply not occurring along with the rise in CO2. 

     Moroever, studies in solar activity (which science is far more robust and well understood – studies go back decades, even centuries, with new studies adding to the already exemplary communicable store of knowlege – as compared to the infant field of AGW) are showing a clearer and more predictable variable to our temps – the Sun’s activity.

    Indeed, given that we know with certainty that the climate has drastically changed over the course of the Earth’s history, it should come as no surprise that the variables that caused climate change since time immemorial would not somehow come to a sudden halt.

    It is not a matter of “if” AGW will be widely panned as scientific folly, but rather “when”.  A perusal of the climategate emails suggest that small cabal of scientists at the center of this theory see that the end is nigh. 

    Of course, if you are like many who take their cue from the “mainstream media” on this issue, you are sadly deeply misinformed.   The degree of journalistic malpractice regarding this issue is startling, the cause of which will no doubt be studied for generations to come.

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