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John Manley is not running for the Liberal leadership


 

This has been another instalment of Things That Won’t Surprise You At All.


 
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John Manley is not running for the Liberal leadership

  1. I think Iggy is going to run away with this.

  2. Do you have a link or did you hear this from someone? I can’t find anything about this.

  3. CBC Newsworld just reported it.

  4. Thanks for the link. For some reason, it didn’t come up in a google news search.

  5. Does this mean the two main contenders for the leadership of the Liberal Party are from Toronto and….. Toronto?

  6. Taber must have whiplash. I read her story this morning about Manley sending emails to gauge support and now she has story about how he’s not running.

    I guess Manley did not receive the reaction he was expecting or he’s like McKenna and just likes to have his name in the papers.

    I agree with Andrew, I think Iggy is going to crush other rivals and easily win the nomination.

  7. I agree, it’s now Iggy’s race to lose.

  8. jwl, I don’t know about M. crushing his opponents, B. will have trouble no doubt, but M. seems to say alot of awfully strange things out on the happy trail.

  9. Good. If Manley were to have run and won we would have been faced with a choice between Harper and Harper Lite.

  10. Good riddance.

  11. Blues Clair

    I think Iggy is going to win easily because Rae is the only other realistic contender, famous last words I am sure, and he’s got baggage from his Premier during recession days.

    Libs also seem to flip between left/right leaders and it’s the right-side’s turn to take a kick at the can.

    As an aside, how are you feeling about your man Obama’s chances today? You must be on tenterhooks. :)

  12. From the comments on here I’d say there is some jubilation that the centre/centre-right of the Liberal party is a dieing breed.

    But consider this: The NDP and Greens have each gained something like 2 percentage points since their 2004 or 2006 victories. Small swings. Meanwhile since 2004 the Liberals have dropped almost 10 points, while the Conservatives have increased almost 10 points. Ladies and gents, that’s a 20 point swing between the two major parties.

    If the Liberals want to keep pushing left and fish in those waters, they will soon find themselves as the Natural Opposition Party. This, in my opinion, is nothing to celebrate.

  13. From the comments on here I’d say there is some jubilation that the centre/centre-right of the Liberal party is a dieing breed.

    But consider this: The NDP and Greens have each gained something like 2 percentage points since their 2004 or 2006 victories. Small swings. Meanwhile since 2004 the Liberals have dropped almost 10 points, while the Conservatives have increased almost 10 points. Ladies and gents, that’s a 20 point swing between the two major parties.

    If the Liberals want to keep pushing left and fish in those waters, they will establish themselves as the Natural Opposition Party. This, in my opinion, is nothing to celebrate.

  14. oops. posted that twice thanks to crappy computing skills. sorry

  15. jwl,

    I’m pretty relaxed concerning Obama. Down here in Chicago the weather is quite fine, unusually warm and sunny for this time of the year.

    cheers

  16. I see the Chicago Sun-Times says today’s weather is A WINNER.

  17. I think I missed your cyber wink jwl.

    Seems to me alot of Conservative commentators like Ignatieff, I remember even one saying he/she would even consider voting for the LPC if Ignatieff was the leader. Isn’t that the problem with Ignatieff, wrong party? Or is Riley on to something?

  18. That’s a shame but, really, in the Liberal Party if you haven’t been organizing for 2 years, it’s difficult to just decide to run and find an organization ready to back you.

  19. Indeed Mr. Wells, the sun is shining down on The One

  20. “Isn’t that the problem with Ignatieff, wrong party?”

    Blues Clair

    I don’t think Libs have an ideology so there is no ‘wrong party’ for them. Libs win often in Canada so they seem to attract a disproportionate number of members who are in politics to win power at all costs, they don’t seem to care about ideas/ policies.

    How can Kennedy, Rae, Iggy and Hall-Findlay be in the same party if ideology is the number one consideration?

  21. Open question – could he have won?

  22. It’s Iggy’s race to lose – and he will find a way to do so. Place your bets now:
    -Stupid foreign policy statement?
    -Stoking constitutional fires?
    -Assembling a team so douchey he can’t possibly improve after the first ballot?
    -Tries to explain position on torture at convention causing everyone to fall asleep and not vote?

  23. Ignatieff in the CPC would be ill-fitting at best. We Reformers don’t like academics telling us what’s best. We don’t even like Harper doing it really, but at least he pretends to be one of us.

  24. “who are in politics to win power at all costs,”

    Is that is just a Liberal phenomenon?

  25. pssst! Terry – The Reform party is dead. And despite what the lefties like to say, the CPC is not even close to Reform.

  26. Bit of a shame, losing Manley. I was hoping he would bring some much needed adult supervision to the Liberals.
    I have no data to support this whatsoever, but I think Manley would cut in Conservative support more than any of the other would-be Lib contenders. Moreover, it would have been hard for the Cons to pound Manley as unworthy, seeing as they invited him to write their Afghanistan policy.

  27. “Is that is just a Liberal phenomenon?”

    Blues Clair

    I think in Canada it is. Obviously pols go into politics to win but NDP and Cons don’t win that often. Occasionally Cons win election or two and dippers have no chance but yet people still join both parties. I think the lust for power is just so blatant in Libs, they can’t hide it.

  28. I just like the word “douchey.”

  29. Good riddance. Now he’ll be free to take up a position with Homeland Security, if he still has any friends there left by tomorrow, that is.

  30. For what it’s worth, it’s useful to keep in mind that Iggy first suggested the carbon tax, when Dion was against the idea during the last leadership race. Will he bring it up again? Curiously, it’s Dion who appropriate that baggage after having been convinced of it’s value by the platform committee, ie Brison (if reports are correct).

    That brings us to the breathlessly awaited question: Will Scott Brison run?

    I don’t beleived he’s missed a race yet.

  31. He’s already declared himself out (Brison).

  32. Ti-Guy,

    Manley works for a top law firm in CANADA and has served the Canadian public extremely well for most of his life. But boy, that last point of yours was a real zinger wasn’t it?

  33. “He’s already declared himself out (Brison).”

    Oh, double entendres…

  34. . But boy, that last point of yours was a real zinger wasn’t it?

    Thank you. Although truth be told it was rather effortless.

    I just remember Manley playing kissy-face with Tom Ridge and that just really soured me on him.

  35. Ti-Guy

    Want to know why our economy wasn’t devasted like the U.S. after 9/11? Who worked to keep the borders open and the trade flowing so that Canadian jobs wouldn’t be at risk? Who worked closely with Americans so our borders were secure and unable to be used “against” the Americans?

    John Manley. So you’re darned right he played kissy face with Tom Ridge. They were golfing partners and friends. That relationship helped get Canada prime-access to U.S. officials and establish a Bi-National Planning Group that ensured Canada’s voice was heard at all stages of security discussion about U.S. border issues.

    Tom Ridge, pro-choice, moderate Republican. Woooo scary.

  36. //I just remember Manley playing kissy-face with Tom Ridge and that just really soured me on him.//

    Iggy has been seeking the attention and approval of British and American neoimperialists his whole life.

    Manley at least had a reason…trying to keep the border open for Canadian manufactured goods to the US market.

    What is Iggy’s excuse for his career as a sycophant?

  37. I saw a speech from Manley on CPAC, and seemed to me watching that that he was getting ready to jump back in. A loss for the LPC, for sure. It’s looking good for Ignatieff, as the centre–centre-right in the race. Having said that, I still think the Liberals will find a way to give Bob Rae the leaders job.

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