Justin Trudeau: Beyond the decibels/decimals

The presumptive Liberal leader explains himself, asks for money


Here is Mr. Trudeau’s full interview with Tom Clark, including the hotly contested moment in which he might have said decibels when he should have said decimals, which seems to have been deemed a matter of profound import on Twitter yesterday.

At just after 5pm on Saturday, the following email went out to supporters of the Trudeau campaign.

Friend —

Over the past number of months we have offered Canadians proof that politics can be done differently — that it can be positive, trustworthy, and inclusive.

We owe this success to you and your willingness to be a part of this change. Your hard work, your support, your generous donations — but most importantly, your willingness to share our message of hope with others.

Now, we need to make sure that message isn’t drowned out by negative advertising and cynical attacks — and that’s going to take more money than we have right now.

I need you to make a donation today, no matter what size. We need to be ready, and we need to demonstrate our resolve.

After what I saw in Toronto today, I know we can make this happen. Our strength and success over the next week — and over the coming months — depends on you:

Thanks for being a part of this.


That followed a similar plea that went out last Wednesday, following a report that the Conservatives were prepared to attack.


Justin Trudeau: Beyond the decibels/decimals

  1. 2012 – “I always say, if at a certain point, I believe that Canada was really the Canada of Stephen Harper – that we were going against abortion, and we were going against gay marriage and we were going backwards in 10,000 different ways – maybe I would think about wanting to make Quebec a country.”

    2013 – “Over the past number of months we have offered Canadians proof that politics can be done differently — that it can be positive, trustworthy, and inclusive.”

    george orwell – political language — and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists — is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

    • Huh.

      Being against regressive policies is apparently the antithesis of “positive, trustworthy, and inclusive” according to some…

      Irony, that…

    • “Whether Canada ends up as one national government or two national governments or several national governments, or some other kind of arrangement is, quite frankly, secondary in my opinion.”

      Stephen Harper

      Since not even Stephen Harper is going to make Canada “backwards in 10,000 ways” and, in fact, hasn’t made it backwards in any way, despite what some in his party would like, Trudeau’s message to Quebec nationalists was that Canada isn’t the kind of country Quebec has any reason to separate from. I guess if the Taliban took over Canada, I might want to separate.

      In his quote, Harper was basically saying that pushing the conservative agenda was more important than national unity. Now that is an attitude to worry about. Around that time there was talk from conservatives about Quebec being an impediment to accomplishing their political goals. Harper’s old Reform party played to anti-Quebec sentiment to drum up support in the West.

  2. Otoh, Kamala Harris is a gorgeous woman.

  3. Sorry didn’t watch the vid. Left as soon as I saw there was an ad.

  4. including the hotly contested moment in which he might have said decibals when he should have said decimals,

    He has deci-balls? Impressive.

  5. “decibals” should be decibels. Has Macleans decided to crowd source their editing duties to the comments section?

  6. Forget decibels/decimals.

    The real issue…he’s asked a question about demonstrating substance, and the first thing he can think of that would demonstrate substance is…to recite pi?

    That’s kind of like thinking you have foreign affairs credentials because Russia is visible from Alaska.

    • It’s *EXACTLY* like thinking you have foreign affairs credentials because Russia is visible from Alaska.

  7. A Lib fundraising letter verbatim? Not that I mind, but imagine if a conservative writer posted a CPC one in a similar context. That would seem odd at the Shotgun, if it’s still out there.

  8. Justin Trudeau is the best man to bring Canadians altogether with a
    social, economic and financial plan to win next election.Never, Never
    underestimate him.You will have a huge surprise…Canadians want him to
    bring back Canada to a prosperous country and a better image that we
    lose with the Conservative Party.The Poll indicates the mood of
    Canadians want change and that change is Justin Trudeau for the Next
    Prime Minister.Mr.Mulroney has to say:“Anybody who … treats Justin Trudeau with scorn or derision or underestimates him, does so at his own peril”Mr.Mulroney one of a Great Prime Minister of Canada can see the potential and talent of a future strong leader that will bring this country to the right direction.

  9. Although you may not catch it the first time, he clearly says “decibel”. Is this evidence that Justin Trudeau is mathematically and scientifically illiterate? This is reminiscent of something that Archie Bunker or Norm Crosby (look them up) would say.

    I have long believed that his hot temper, lack of experience and big mouth would get him in trouble, but I never expected anything like this!

    If this is any indication of his abilities and knowledge, there will be plenty of time for him to foul up royally before the next election.

    Don’t expect his handlers or party officials to save the day either! They are responsible for the huge mess that is the Liberal leadership contest. The fact that 7 days will be allotted for registrants (a modest 127,000 party members + supporters) to vote speaks volumes!

    Could this be the beginning of the Death by Decibels Debacle? I wonder.

    This might even be bigger than Stephane Dion’s “Hot Air” Affair.

    • It doesn’t even matter. Trudeau doesn’t even need a platform the CPC is imploding on themselves. All he has to emphasize is that the Liberals are not the CPC or harper.

      • That is exactly the kind of thinking that will ensure that the federal Liberals never form government again. Marc Garneau was the leader the party really needed.

        • Well for Harper the problem is he is exactly the Prime Minister we don’t need and that is why the CPC will loose by a wide margin in the coming election. That is why Trudeau can coast to victory. Its not like Garneau left the party and won’t fulfill an important role within it.

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