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Justin Trudeau was wrong about used car salesmen

And journalists


 

On Tuesday, Justin Trudeau was asked about whether his caucus was doing enough to be transparent about its expenses and whether Canadians could trust that Liberals wouldn’t still be hiding something. He responded as follows.

There’s no question that there’s a been a trust broken. Canadians by and large no longer trust their politicians. I think we’re now ranked below used car salesmen and journalists on the list of trust of professions and you know, we make light of it, but that’s actually a very very serious state of affairs. We in this House are responsible for taking important decisions that will determine not just the economic, but the social well-being of our country in many cases for generations to come and if you’re in a place where Canadians no longer trust their politicians, for me, the way to begin to restore that trust is to demonstrate that we as politicians to trust Canadians and that’s why this proactive disclosure, the openness, the transparency that has characterized both my leadership and the Liberal Party of Canada over the past months, is an extremely important element in getting Canadians to understand that they deserve a far better government than they have right now and we’re pleased that there seems to be an openness across the country to what we have to say, but we know we still have an awful lot of work to do over the coming two years to earn that trust properly and the level of transparency we’re exposing is a big part of that.

The executive director of the Used Car Dealers Association of Canada was unimpressed and Mr. Trudeau subsequently apologized. As well he should. But to politicians. And journalists.

According to the Reader’s Digest trust poll in 2012, “car salespeople” were more distrusted than “politicians.” (The 2013 poll doesn’t seem to have included reference to car salespeople.) Car salespeople (and telemarketers) also finished worse in the 2010 poll for Reader’s Digest. Ipsos Reid polls in 2010 and 2012 found similarly. In a 2012 Gallup poll of Americans, car salespeople were less highly trusted than “Members of Congress.” Though respondents were also more likely to express very low or low levels of trust for Members of Congress.

In each of those last three polls, journalists rank higher than both politicians and car salespeople, with somewhere between 24% and 32% of respondents expressing confidence. Ekos, for that matter, has found that a whole 33% of respondents are willing to express trust in journalists. So there.


 

Justin Trudeau was wrong about used car salesmen

  1. their is one difference between trudeau and the other 2(harper and mulcair), Justin had the gonads to apologize. its called man up, and taxpayers have respect for people who show a bit of humility in their lives. it called being genuine.

    • Ya, he’s awesome because he’s constantly apologizing for being an idiot. What a wonderful trait for a politician to have.

      • well we know the side you like, corruption ! I take genuine over corrupt any day. Im not sure you looked at the recent nanos poll about electability lately, have you ?

        • Oh well, a guy who has zero policy is coasting in the polls. We shouldn’t even bother with an actual election, just give the prince his crown! It’s the Trudeau dynasty, just like the Bush’s in the US. Canadians will be saved from themselves by the greatest trust fund baby the nation has even known!

          • Do you read the SUN yourself?

    • Isn’t it amazing how absolutely everything that happens these days is yet further proof of Justin Trudeau’s virtue and awesomeness?

  2. john f kennedy – Mothers all want their sons to grow up to be president but they don’t want them to become politicians in the process.

  3. Justin was also wrong about Ezra Levant….who is nowhere near as good as Justin made him out to be. LOL

    • Oh, dear, Justin supporters are still upset that Sun news digs up some real facts about Justin! Nothing new to report there. :))

      • “Real facts”?

        Think about that for a minute.

        • Thinking is hard!

          • Double dipping isn’t hard to do for Justin when his supporters approve of it when Justin does it:

            “On April 20, 2012, for example, Trudeau earned
            $20,000 for a speech he gave to Literacy for Life in Saskatoon. In the House of Commons, other MPs were debating and voting on a pension reform initiative.”

            “On Jan. 31, 2009, MPs debated and voted on changes to employment insurance benefits. There is no record Trudeau voted on that initiative or participated in the day’s proceedings. But he did give a speech that day to the Toronto-based group, The Learning Partnership, for which he was paid $10,000”

          • Harper’s hair helmet can’t be cheap to maintain. The voters need to know the truth about the costs of the hair helmet.

  4. The kid’s too stupid to even realize that he’s insulting actual working Canadians with his “clever” turns of phrase.

    I suspect this is another situation where the Liberals think they’re too good to have used car salesmen voting for them. Much like they disdain Walmart employees, or McDonald’s employees, or basically anybody who has a lower paying job.

    Liberals just don’t understand that not all Canadians are high paid government employees, and they don’t seem to be taking any steps to figuring it out either.

    • So, repeating the fact that people don’t trust used car salesmen is insulting? I know Conservatives hate science, but now you’re waging war on garden-variety facts?

      • Polling results have absolutely nothing to do with science. If you think polling results have anything to do with real science, then it is you who doesn’t understand science.

        • Reading comprehension trouble?

          • How so?

          • Too many big words. You’ll have to cut it down below three…although Duh! seems appropriate.

          • You are so funny! Have you ever fell off the bandwagon in motion? I bet you have!

          • Uh!

        • I don’t know. Insufficient education? Lack of proficiency in English? Dementia?

        • “Polling results have absolutely nothing to do with science.”

          It’s probably more accurate to say that “polling results have nothing to do with Francien’s facile notion of science”.

          In fact, done properly, polling is a widely accepted scientific methodology, requiring rigorous sampling techniques and statistical analysis.

          It’s used in the social sciences all the time. You can find a discussion about it in almost any introductory sociology textbook.

      • Ya, car salesmen aren’t trusted because of science. That’s just genius. Just like legalizing weed and making it more accessible to people will somehow “scientifically” make kids stop smoking weed.

        You Liberals are so stupid, you think you can just say something and call it “science” and that somehow makes it right? The stupid just doesn’t stop, does it?

        • “Conservatives hate science, but now you’re waging war on garden-variety facts?”

          See that little word in there – but – it’s there for a purpose moron.
          But carry on. No one quite does stupid like you and your tag team pardner there.

        • I thought francien had trouble comprehending what she reads, but you really take it to a whole other level.
          Are there any facts, other than public distrust of car salesmen, that you believe shouldn’t be spoken of in public?

          • These are the facts which should be spoken of more in public:

            “On April 20, 2012, for example, Trudeau earned
            $20,000 for a speech he gave to Literacy for Life in Saskatoon. In the House of Commons, other MPs were debating and voting on a pension reform initiative.”

            “On Jan. 31, 2009, MPs debated and voted on changes to employment insurance benefits. There is no record Trudeau voted on that initiative or participated in the day’s proceedings. But he did give a speech that day to the Toronto-based group, The Learning Partnership, for which he was paid $10,000”

          • There is nary a hair out of place on Harper’s head. The budget of his head sculptor requires scrutiny, in my opinion.

      • And yes, repeating the fact that people don’t trust used car salesmen is insulting. It also helps perpetrate a hurtful stereotype. You wouldn’t have a problem with Trust Fund Trudeau pointing out the fact that crime rates are higher among Natives? (Of course you wouldn’t, because Trudeau can do no wrong. He could be caught eating a baby alive and you’d figure out some way to justify it).

        Not everybody has the good fortune of being born with a million dollar trust fund you know. I know Trudeau’s never bought a used car because money has never been an issue for him. But believe it or not, lots of Canadians buy used cars, and there are lots of honest used car salesmen out there.

        But again, continue to alienate voters who you think are beneath you. See how well that’ll work out.

        • “And yes, repeating the fact that people don’t trust used car salesmen is insulting.”

          Sometimes, the truth is difficult.

        • Uh no, I don’t have a problem with people repeating facts. Not only do I not have a problem, I actually believe it’s important that we deal with facts.
          How would we even begin to deal with issues in First Nations communities if we refused to acknowledge them.

          Like I said, aversion to facts seems to be characteristic of folks like you.

        • Sounds like a sore point. Have we finally unearthed the real Rick Omen – used car salesman?

          • …and now YOU owe an apology to used car salesmen.

        • “You Liberals are so stupid”

          “And yes, repeating the fact that people don’t trust used car salesmen is insulting. It also helps perpetrate a hurtful stereotype.”

          Bless you, Rick Omen, for standing up to hurtful stereotypes.

  5. This is ridiculous.

    The executive director should be removed from his position as he has shown his is unethical and apparently not very intelligent. To claim that Trudeau was intentionally trying to disparage car salesmen is intellectually dishonest at best and just plain partisan at worst. I hope the members of this association hold Mr. Bernard to account for his unethical characterization of Trudeau’s words.

    • You people are a hoot! The excuses you come up with to defend Justin: Hilarious!!

    • At the very least he should get a bit of perspective…or a sense of humour.

    • Yes, Trudeau insults a group of people, and the offended people are the ones who should apologize. Of course! Jesus Christ, this guy really can’t do any wrong in your eyes, can he?

      • that’s because trudeau is genuine. its hard to knock genuine people, they kill you with kindness when your so used to corruption. you will get over that corruption thing eventually. it happens to most who are going through ‘ con corruption withdrawal ‘. their is a help online for that, its called the liberal party of Canada.

      • I’m pretty sure Trudeau isn’t responsible for people telling pollsters that they don’t trust car salesmen.
        Oops, I just repeated a fact.
        I’m so sorry.

  6. The very (wherry) best part of this post is reading the comments from the Con supporters, who normally are so convinced that Aaron Wherry posts as a thinly disguised Liberal supporter. Now, despite the fact that this column is actually about the Canadian perception of trustworthiness in used car salesmen and journalists, their desperation has them thriled to their deadened, blackened cores, thinking this will thwart anyone from voting Liberal. It’s cute, really it is.

    I saw a poll last week that was about the trustworthiness of the party leaders. And guess who was on top of that? Now guess who was on the bottom? Ouch.

    • Nobody said this will convince anyone from voting Liberal. But I’m sure there’s more than a few used car salesmen who’ll find his comments insulting. But again, I know, Liberals don’t need used car salesmen to vote for them, because they’re used car salesmen are beneath the LPC. They’re the natural governing party, they don’t need to appeal to hard working people, because they’re just going to win.

    • “their deadened, blackened cores”
      You heard it here from patchouli, folks — Conservative supporters are witches. Patchouli is not making this up.

    • Post that will ya

  7. OMG, Ezra calling someone else childish!. Seems like some of them used car folks is conservatives.[ just kidding but i wouldn’t be the least surprised if they didn’t get a heads up from Bryne]
    Funny, but if the boot was on the other foot and say Kenny had said something along those lines with the same outrage from the industry reps, we’d be hearing the Omen/FV crowd whining about all those professionally and perpetually offended liberal car sales folks out there.
    Trudeau was probably wise to apologize and even wiser to keep it light by poking Ezra hard enough into provoking the man child into a public hissy fit. Can’t really blame Ezra, when his gig is up as a public anti intellectual what else is he going to do other then sell used cars?

    • And if Kenny or Poilievre had said the same type of thing there’d be two chances of an apology – slim & none :-)

    • Ezra Bad! Burn the witch!

      • Only if he floats.

        • Hah!

  8. What a dick! Like I said before, we need Jello Biafra!

  9. I’m somewhat surprised Dean Del Mastro hasn’t chimed in on this by now…… what a perfect opportunity to take a swipe at Justin.
    Curious he remains quiet. Curious.

    • Why would he take attention away from the trust fund baby shooting himself in the foot?

      • Who said anything about shooting himself in the foot? Del Mastro sold used cars before entering politics, I would have figured he’d be personally offended.

  10. So much for that “positive” campaign he promised to run. And funny how Liberals still fail to acknowledge that a large part of the reason the public has lost faith in politicians was his party and it’s massive Sponsorship Scandal. Why haven’t they repaid any of that money again?

    • Introducing more transparency to try to elevate peoples’ trust of politicians out of the basement with car salesmen is negative?
      Oops, I just repeated the fact that people don’t trust car salesmen again.
      I’m so cruel.

      • You’re not cruel, you’re dumb. What kind of “transparency” is it when we have to rely on trusting these Liberal scum for their “transparency” to be achieved? There’s no oversight, nothing stopping them from lying. It’s faux transparency.

        • Now now, NotRick. Someone with your level of reading comprehension

          is in no position to call anyone else “dumb”. Not to mention someone who is too stupid to refrain from labeling a group “scum” in the same thread that he’s shedding tears over “hurtful stereotype(s)”, or to understand that the Liberals are in no position to legislate any proposals.

  11. Wow, judging from the outraged indignity being expressed here by a few HarperCons on behalf of all the aggrieved used car salespersons of the land, I suspect the Cons have discovered a whole new stakeholder group from whom to solicit funds. After having tapped out gun owners for the better part of a decade (and then, apparently, alienating them anyway), they need a whole new category of patsies from whom to shake out money.

    Used car salespersons, START.YOUR.CHECKBOOKS!

    • How did the Conservatives alienate gun owners? I thought the Conservatives scrapped the long-gun registry, as they promised to do. I thought that made gun owners happy, not alienated. Am I missing something?

  12. Ekos needs to spend more time on Twitter and find out how many people trust journalists, because a lot of them don’t. I trust them if they’re intelligent, but I find too many of them aren’t. As for politicians, as I get more involved in watching politics, I’m dismayed to find how many of them have led sheltered lives and really aren’t all that intelligent at all.

    “Suppose you were an idiot; and suppose you were a Member of Congress – but I repeat myself.” (Mark Twain)

    “Congress (or Parliament) is Bingo for Billions” (Red Skelton)

    and that’s what I’ve come to believe about politicians now, that if they get into politics for money, the salary and the fat pension, and they stay there obedient to their leader and the whims of the day – in order to hang onto that status and that money. I have doubts that very many of them actually have a calling, but I think Trudeau does, as does E. May, and more of those are appearing as Canada slides into the pit thanks to Harper.

    • What century do you live in? Still needing to quote men like Mark Twain? Interesting.

      Oh, and about that money thing. Money is very important to Justin:

      “On April 20, 2012, for example, Trudeau earned
      $20,000 for a speech he gave to Literacy for Life in Saskatoon. In the House of Commons, other MPs were debating and voting on a pension reform initiative.”

      “On Jan. 31, 2009, MPs debated and voted on changes to employment insurance benefits. There is no record Trudeau voted on that initiative or participated in the day’s proceedings. But he did give a speech that day to the Toronto-based group, The Learning Partnership, for which he was paid $10,000”

      • Pretty interesting that you see no value in past experience. Read the Bible or anything like that?

        Your following garbage is worthless. You should start going to Bingo or something.

        • Under the T – Zero

      • There is a black hole in the parliamentary budget system, and that black hole leads to a hair helmet. Scrutinize. Discuss.

      • Mark Twain was a very smart man and a lot of what he said is still relevant today. Who cares what century he said it in – what matters is whether it’s relevant.

  13. Justin is just another dirt bag politician – riding on his dad’s ashes.

    Name one politician in the past 50 years that has actually improved the situation for the working class family.

    There has been none.

    Tru-Doh! Lite is a silver spoon raised, spoiled metrosexual and continual failure at anything he has attempted to date – especially university and college. He has never struggled to pay a power bill or make a mortgage payment. He cannot relate to anyone who has to work two jobs to make the car payment.

    Anyone actually believes he will be better than Harper is an idiot.

    Between those two and the dipper who is a citizen of france, the entire country of Canada is doomed to mediocrity.

  14. This creepy little man makes my stomach turn.

  15. Poor baby Justine. He really is half a brick short of a full load. And he must be getting bad advice from an aging Kinsella.

    Anyone on the ball would have put it this way:

    “Canadians, by and large, no longer trust their politicians. I think we’re now ranked lower than two bit street lawyers.”

    If he’d said that, even I would vote for him.