Looking north (II) - Macleans.ca

Looking north (II)


The Boston crowd considers Michael Ignatieff’s defeat.

Alex Keyssar, a Kennedy School professor who was a Harvard graduate student with Ignatieff in the 1970s, said he was sorry that his former colleague’s years at Harvard may have cost him the election. “If he had been at the University of Toronto his whole career,’’ he said, “it would have been different.’’


Looking north (II)

  1. Yes, we've recently become very parochial, xenophobic, agoraphobic….it's a long way from the global citizens we used to be.

    • No, we haven't.

      Also, seriously? Agoraphobic?

      • Well, I'm angoraphobic.

      • Yes, we very much have. Other countries have noticed it, even if you haven't.

        Yes, agoraphobic….afraid of the big outside world.

        • That's not what "agoraphobic" means. More like "afraid of wide open spaces".

          It's ironic that you claimed Canadians are more agoraphobic considering that our country has so many vast, open spaces. Canada must be an agoraphobe's nightmare.

          • Agoraphobic actually means "afraid of the marketplace".

            Canada has at least a mild case.

  2. "Well thank heavens he didn't lose to a Yalie"

  3. That's a silly thing to say. Based on what evidence? Or are you just using the royal "we" here?

    • There is also a collective 'we'. We as a nation, we as Canadians.

      We have made a great fuss about Ignatieff's Canadianness, we made a great fuss about rescuing 'Lebanese', we don't make any effort to help people unless they're 'real' Canadians….we flew empty planes rather than pick-up other people trying to evacuate Libya….in fact 'real' Canadians have become a popular topic lately. Who is, and who isn't a 'Canadian'. We did it with everyone from Khadr to Dion and even to the GG.

      We don't worry about our international obligations on anything but war anymore….not on climate or pollution or finance….etc We pretended being dumped from the UN didn't matter.

      Here's an item for you as well.

      • The Walid Jumblatt for PM juggernaut starts here!

      • It didn’t matter, except to the hand-wringers who obsess endlessly about our international reputation. Personally, I’m quite relieved we’ve seemingly stopped caring what the rest of the world thinks. It was a symptom of insecurity, weakness, and a misplaced desire to please. We’ve become much more belligerent and abrasive on the world stage, and more than willing to upset a few apple carts if it means standing up for our own interests.

      • @RagingRanter ….the world is globalizing….if there was ever a time to ensure we have a place in it….now is that time. Hiding behind walls is the sign of insecurity….not going out and engaging with the world.

        If we want to trade with the world, and be prosperous the last thing we need is to be more belligerent and abrasive.

        And no more stupid ‘wars’.

    • CR, you may have noticed that Emily is like Humpty Dumpty. When she uses a word, it means what she says it means; she pays it extra.

      • Agoraphobia (from Greek ἀγορά, “marketplace”; and φόβος/φοβία, -phobia) is an anxiety disorder defined as a morbid fear of wide open spaces, crowds, or uncontrolled social conditions

        Exactly what I said….now if we’re through with silly word tangents?

      • We’ve joined our first ground combat mission (Afghanistan, 2001 to present) since the Korean War, and we’re more agoraphobic now?

  4. Stephen M. Walt, a Kennedy School professor has the more realistic view:

    “It did seem like something of a long shot to have been outside the country for so long and to go back with the clear intention of gaining the prime ministership relatively quickly,'' he said. “It wasn't as though he was planning a 20-year parliamentary career and then a leap to high office.''

    • Well, duh.

      • But it apparently it feels much better to beat ourselves up and call ourselves "small-minded" and "parochial".

        I don't blame Ignattieff for not recognizing the futility of his candidacy.

        Apps, Rossi, and Davey, on the other hand, have a lot to answer for.

    • That’s crazy! You should be able to just move back for a few years and then become PM. And curse the small-minded ba$tards who would say otherwise.

  5. Considering how accurate all the political analysts were guessing the election outcome, perhaps we can consider relying on their opinions as jump-off points for discussion a bit less?

  6. “If he had been at the University of Toronto his whole career,''

    We probably never would have heard of him because no one is considered "successful" in this country unless they've been successful somewhere else by and large.

    • it would be fun making a list of famous Canadians and what the CPC would say to smear them if they ran for office in another party.

      Michael Bliss – too historical.

      • Neil … too Young

        • I hear Frederick Banting got rich off penicillin in some two-tier systems.

        • He's been walking all night long,his footsteps have made him crazy.

      • Stephane Dion – too academic, not a leader.

        Oh, wait.

      • Willard S Boyle: Put a camera on every street corner. He’s probably spying on you right now!

  7. I said I was afraid of it, not alergic to it. Angorathesia is allergic to angora.

    PS: Angora makes perfectly fine yarn that I am in no way afraid of. I'm just trying for a laugh. Sorry to fall flat.

    • Why do you need to apologise to angora? Are you afraid it's going to get you if you offend it? How deep does this angoraphobia run? No-one can help you until you admit you have a problem…

      • It is all coming back to me now… the Wendy's frosted malt, the Chrysler K car, the surging hormones, the first fumblings towards ecstasy. I said that I was sorry. Awkward.

      • Have you ever been headbutted by an angry angora goat? Trust me, you get them upset, you apologize.

  8. Sorry, but the whole accusation, if you can call it that really, was lame from the start and continues to be lame. It's bizarre and irrational.

    It's simply a round about way of suggesting he's not patriotic. That he doesn't "care" about his country, and is merely seeking power or money while exhibiting his ignorance.

    It's a mean spirited and baseless attack, and everytime I see something like this, no matter who it's aimed at, I'm disgusted.

    But what bothers me the most is the willingness of political parties to use what is essentially subliminal messaging to alter public opinion.

    Human beings have a large portion of their brains dedicated to facial recognition. Project enough negative facial shots of an individual, and eventually you're going to end up with some sort of pavlovian conditioning.

    24/7 messaging is a great way to do that. It should be banned outside election periods.

    I suppose somehow I just expect better of ourselves in this day and age, but at the heart of it, we're still a terribly irrational species, organizing in clans for emotional safety and comfort.

  9. Congratulations CRAP, we’re turning into Americans. Where’s my gun?