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Nouns, adjectives and politics


 

Kathryn Blaze Carlson considers socialism and the future of the NDP.

The distinction between “democratic socialism” and “social democracy” grew up in the post-war period, and by the late-1960s, many European parties of this ideological bent started calling themselves social democratic. While a lay person might think the ordering of terms is six of one, half a dozen of the other, sequence actually matters. “It’s a question of which is the noun and which is the adjective,” Mr. Sears said. “If you believe in social democracy, you can say you are a democrat who believes in a system of social justice. If you’re a democratic socialist, you can you are a socialist — whatever that means — who believes in the achievement of socialist ends through democracy.” When asked whether he would describe Mr. Layton as a socialist, Mr. Capstick said, “No. He’s a social democrat.”


 

Nouns, adjectives and politics

  1. The NDP have picked a fine time to have an identity crisis!

  2. When are we going to examine whether Conservatives are conservative? Actual conservatives who voted for these guys have just purchased the biggest pig in a poke since Mike Harris. We’re going to see more orgies of spending, liquidation of government assets and ideological attacks on public institutions with the result of big prisons, big police and big deficits.

    Small c conservatives would preserve Canadian institutions and value social cohesion and reason, while these Big C Conservatives are just populist authoritarians who want revenge on whoever they perceive as being against them.

    • ” When are we going to examine whether Conservatives are conservative?  …. while these Big C Conservatives are just populist authoritarians who want revenge on whoever they perceive as being against them.”

      Other than Cons being populist, I mostly agree with what you wrote. Cons don’t respect msm because msm is liberal and instead of learning what Cons think, libs believe their opinion is only thing that matters. 

      If our liberal msm ever read educated itself on what right wing thinks, they would find knowledge that would help improve their questions to PM immeasurably. Harper is ideologue, I bet PM doesn’t even agree with premise of 95% of msm questions so Harper just basically ignores press.

  3. “The distinction between “democratic socialism” and “social democracy” ….. ”

    Now our people are joking that we look at the U.S. and see “socialism with American characteristics.” [The Chinese term for its mainly capitalist market-opening of the last 30 years is “socialism with Chinese characteristics.”]
     
    This is like our great leader Deng Xiaoping, who said that it doesn’t matter if the cat is white or black, as long as it catches the mouse. It doesn’t matter what we call this. 

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/12/-8220-be-nice-to-the-countries-that-lend-you-money-8221/7148/

    “If you believe in social democracy, you can say you are a democrat who believes in a system of social justice. If you’re a democratic socialist, you can you are a socialist — whatever that means — who believes in the achievement of socialist ends through democracy.” When asked whether he would describe Mr. Layton as a socialist, Mr. Capstick said, “No. He’s a social democrat.”

    Judean People’s Front song:

    There’s a man we call our Leader.
    He’s fine and strong and brave,
    And we’ll follow him unquestioning
    Towards an early grave.
    He-e gives us hope of sacrifice
    And a chance to die in vain,
    And if we’re one of the lucky ones,
    We’ll live to die again.

  4. Democratic socialism vs. Social democracy:  same sh*t, different pile.