Rae vs. Mulcair

Joan Bryden and Susan Delacourt note that, in addition to calling for Stephen Harper to resign, Bob Rae has turned his attention to Thomas Mulcair.

“If there was any doubt in anyone’s mind in Canada, let me just say that the era of love and good feeling is clearly over inside the NDP. It’s a new regime.”

Invoking Layton’s deathbed social democratic manifesto, Rae added: “We’ve now moved to a world where anger apparently is better than love, arrogance is now better than humility and petulance is much stronger than respect.”




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Rae vs. Mulcair

  1. Oh, it`s going to be a nasty fight amongst the left.
    The civil war is the dirtiest. There is no home to go to afterwards. No winner. 
    Democracy in action.

    • Sadly, this all plays into the Conservative hands as you point out.  However, there is one tiny glimmer of possible hope.  Rae is Interim leader and if the Liberals elect someone else as Leader after Rae and Mulcair duke it out, and from what is seems at the moment – expose Mulcair for who he is and how he is behaving – that would leave the new Liberal leader in a more advantageous position.  

      Another possible glimmer of hope is that Mulcair will learn and not repeat stunts like he pulled in Parliament again. If he does, Rae should continue to expose them for what they are.

      • Two problems.
        Mulcair knows the only place for the Liberals to reestablish a beachhead is in Quebec. Where else?  PEI ?
        He will do whatever is necessary to hold onto those Quebec seats, even if he is alienating his troc caucus.
        Secondly, Your hope that Mulcair will see the folly of his ways and begin to play nice   is fantasyland. People don`t change. Especially those with an increasingly high opinion of himself, living in Stornoway, and enjoying the squirming from Rae.

  2. That was very astute of Rae to point out.

    Cynical opinion alert: the NDP have been using Jack’s words like their are manna from heaven, they have been ’marketing’ these words and using them as if a mission statement of the NDP…….the first time they get put to the test, the NDP demonstrate that Jack’s words are nothing more than ‘marketing’ rather than mission.

    The NDP have always been afforded the time to voice their concerns, it was a courtesy extended to them (and the Bloq and the Alliance and the Reform and the Grteens) by whoever was the official opposition at the time. The first time, it’s their turn to repay that courtesy in kind, they pull this so-called filibuster stunt.

    And there IS no excuse for it, the NDP weren’t delaying anything or preventing anything….they were merely trying to appear as if THEY were the only opposition, the were jockeying for polling points, poticking for the next election. 

    In fact, one of their arguements was that they wanted to prevent the government from spewing talking points……and what if they did? It’s their right to do so even if it isn’t what you wanted to hear. And as for the content on Julian’s screed? He at least owed people the courtesy of an intelligent, reasoned response…..instead he read tweets and emails……there is no point to having MPs if all they do is read consituents emails and I don’t care whose emails he read…….

    IF Mulcair wanted to pull a stunt, a quick call to the Greens, the Bloq and the Liberals might have gone a long way…..instead he just hikacked the process and declared his party’s unilateral opinion to be the only one.

    • To be fair, I’m not sure that Mulcair has ever used Layton’s words.  They really are not his style.  He has never presented himself as a love, cooperation type person.  

      Still this stunt is just so disrespectful, even by Mulcair’s style.  What struck me is how disrespectful it was to so many Canadians.  He told Canadians if they didn’t have an NDP representative to go find one in another riding – essentially saying all Liberal, Green and Bloc MPs had been rendered irrelevant by him, the great Mulcair.  Mulcair really did seem to be channeling Harper.  Perhaps that is his idol.  Not on policy, but on style.

    • It looked chippy and small and offered little meaningful criticism of the budget.  I was disapointed with Julien, I have always had a lot of respect for him.

      •  Somehow I had never paid attention to Julien before so this was my introduction to him – very negative.  But I’ve heard from a lot of people who had a high opinion of him and were surprised and disappointed.  Perhaps that is why Mulcair picked him.  As to why he agreed, no one knows.  Maybe Mulcair will pay him back somehow.

        • He’s always been a very conscientious MP, very good in committees.  Let,s hope this is a one off, we don’t need two parties playing silly bugger, we have enough of that with the Cons.

  3. Mulcair’s break with the Parliamentary norms to monopolize the budget debate for 13 hours was striking behavior for a new leader, and one can see from Elizabeth May’s tweets that she felt just as strongly as Bob Rae.  A number of MPs consulted with constituents and thought thought they would be able to present their own researched criticisms of the budget, only to be unexpectedly silenced by Mulcair. 

    I doubt Bob Rae or Elizabeth May or even his own caucus (did Megan Leslie try to get Peter Julian to shut up at one point — seemed like it, maybe she had something to say too) will impact on Mulcair.  Seems some of the reputation that preceeded his election is accurate.

  4. Certainly it seems a bit unfair to the other parties.  But if we’ve gone from Muclair is angry! too Muclair hogs time!  then it’s a big improvement. 

    • Actually, it’s gone to “Mulcair is a mini-Harper.” I’m not making that up. It’s the new attack from Bob Rae.

      •  Well if it keeps changing so much that the message can’t sink in on the impressionable and people actually have to decide by policy, then it’s all to the good, I guess.

      •  Divisive and nasty are ones that seem to apply before and after and during to Mulcair.  Doesn’t seem to change much.

  5. Rae should simply ignore Mulcair, and get on with his own job.

    Never fight a two-front war when there’s no need to.

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