‘Respecting and Renewing our Democracy’

For those of us who are interested in such things, here are the democratic reforms promised by the Liberals.

Liberals will adopt a new approach to information, issuing government-wide direction that the default position for all departments and agencies will be to release information to the public, both proactively and responsively … all Access to Information requests and responses will be posted online … a searchable, online database for grants, contributions and contracts … restore the mandatory long form census … procedural limitations on the prime minister’s power to prorogue … all Canadians will be able to participate in People’s Question Period, where the Prime Minister and Ministers will respond directly to unscripted, user-generated questions online … a new Standing Committee on National Security … regular face-to-face meetings of all party leaders … direct Elections Canada to develop an online voting option.

The Liberals also commit to pursuing Question Period reforms similar to those proposed by Michael Chong. And elsewhere, under deficit reduction, the Liberals suggest a smaller cabinet.

‘Respecting and Renewing our Democracy’

  1. And were Ignatieff to be PM he would sign such democratic agreement, I suppose.

    Does Wherry believe Ignatieff will honour such agreement this time around?

    Has Ignatieff honoured the last 'democratic document" he signed?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/pdf/081201_Accord_en.pdf

    3. A “no surprises” approach

    That signature is valid untill June 10, 2011. And after that Ignatieff can sign on to another binding accord.

    • I'm not listening… May ears are covered. Babblers give me a severe headache.

      • Yeah, I know Mr.Wherry babbles most of the time, and it is silly to respond to his posts, but

        it's so darn interesting to see how long Wherry's spinning machine works before it finally wears itself out.

        His machine is still spinning pretty good. I'm amazed, actually!

        • You have been running on your rims for quite a while now.

          • Oh, hi Jan. How's your morning going so far?

            Learned any new songs during this morning's Catch 22 service?

            "Anti-Harper, here we come
            Anti-Harper, you're so done!"

            That hymn's getting a bit old, no?

          • I was highly amused watching Harper presenting another of his 'sometime in the future' tax credit plans this morning. The contrast of him standing there with that stomach of his and people exercising in the background – who was the genius that thought that up?

          • I'm glad you were amused. Jan.

            See, that's so nice about following the Catch 22 group. It amuses me. Forever the Catch 22 group pretends that elections should be about more than simple superficial stuff, and here comes the catch: let's talk some more about Harper's belly.

            When is it Ms.Atwood's turn to do some high pitching?

          • Harper's performance – hard to be more superficial than his Get Fit Infomercial. Didn't they use to call him a policy wonk?

    • I see "coalition" has overtaken "adscam" as the conservative topic changing mechanism.

  2. And were Ignatieff to be PM he would sign such democratic agreement, I suppose.

    Does Wherry believe Ignatieff will honour such agreement this time around?

    Has Ignatieff honoured the last 'democratic document" he signed?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/pdf/081201_Accord_en.pdf

    3. A “no surprises” approach

    That signature is valid untill June 10, 2011. And after that Ignatieff can sign on to another binding accord.

  3. I like this…very much.

    • me too.

    • Finally a promise of open accountable government : I like it.

      • Yeah, something fresh. LOL

        • Now, there, Igarvin. Don't make fun of cowpatties.

  4. I like this…very much.

  5. I'm not listening… May ears are covered. Babblers give me a severe headache.

  6. Just watched the town hall. Iggy was superb. Platform makes sense.
    Dueling headlines on NNW….
    Libs: 9B for Families,
    vs
    Cons: Fitness Tax credit if we can ever fix the financial mess we created

    • Ah, NorthernPoV is taking a break from the Catch 22 website

      You people take turns as who is to post on Macleans on Sunday morning? Your turn this morning, NothernPoV?

      Have your buddies at Catch 22 been able to do some number crunching? Or could not anyone find the numbers which will work.

      Hey, don't worry. I have lots of time. Anytime you're ready to give me the numbers, let me know. You know where I'm at.

      • Thanks for the plug!

        Yes, simply google "catch 22 campaign" and you can join the effort to stop Harper.

      • Seems like lately, FVerhoeven, it's all your turn, all the time.

        • She probably gets paid by the post. I guess the book isn't selling very well.

          • My book will never sell. You gotta be connected in the Bookworld, in order to write one thing and then do the exact opposite.

            Sure, Ignatieff has written and published many books, some on human rights and stuff to boot.

            And where was Ignatieff's voice when he decided to be appointed leader of the Liberal party rather then deciding to be chosen by the party membership?

            It's easy to write down the theoretical stuff when it comes to democracy, but in practice leader Ignatieff doesn't stand up for any of the principles he so eloquantly writes about.

            Should we care? I think we should. I think it is important to be able to think independently. And I am capable of doing that.

          • Oh, so it's the news media and the book world who are conspiring to keep you down?

            Protip: Book world people are literate, and are used to seeing a lot of nonsense. I haven't read your book, but if the quality of your ideas there parallels your writing here, you may want to consider direct sales through talk radio ads.

          • Oh, and Curious, I'm not afraid to place my real name above every posting I make.

            Very few people here on the boards are as courageous as I am.

            When hiding behind a ficticious name, one can say whatever.

            I hold honesty as value # 1. How come you don't?

          • By all means, please post your full name, address and place of employment, in the interests of courage.

          • Where, oh, where, Andrew (not PorC) did you find that bag of excuses? It never seems to run out.

          • I'm not the one bragging about being open about my identity. You said you're posting under your real name. You haven't actually posted your name in a way that clearly identifies you from any of hundreds or thousands of people. So, that isn't really courageous.

            That said, I don't want you to actually post that info. There are good reasons to maintain a degree of anonymity on the net.

          • I don't agree with you on much, but I agree about this…

            I've been saying it for years; "be yourself online."

          • "I'm not afraid to place my real name above every posting I make."

            … probably necessary to get that paycheck with the big 'Steve's Government' sticker on it. Do you also get 'free coffee refills in 2015' stamps?

          • Don't blame FV (completely)… the lethargy emitted from the Harper campaign has now hit its peak. By week 3 the so-called leader will be turtling when someone asks to do a piano 'duet' and he'll just be tossing out recycled John Howard policies…

        • I didn't know there was a limit on postings. You don't have to read what I write. It's really that simple. I thought folks like you could at least understand that much, no?

          • Hey, don't get me wrong. I enjoy reading what you write, and even if I didn't, what right would I have to tell you not to post all day and all night if that's what floats your boat? I just couldn't help but notice, be vaguely amused by, and point out the dig you made at somebody else for essentially the same thing.

  7. Just watched the town hall. Iggy was superb. Platform makes sense.
    Dueling headlines on NNW….
    Libs: 9B for Families,
    vs
    Cons: Fitness Tax credit if we can ever fix the financial mess we created

  8. me too.

  9. Ah, NorthernPoV is taking a break from the Catch 22 website

    You people take turns as who is to post on Macleans on Sunday morning? Your turn this morning, NothernPoV?

    Have your buddies at Catch 22 been able to do some number crunching? Or could not anyone find the numbers which will work.

    Hey, don't worry. I have lots of time. Anytime you're ready to give me the numbers, let me know. You know where I'm at.

  10. Before you make a big deal about Democracy, you had better inform the public of your intentiions of "Honesty" with regards to THEFT.

  11. Before you make a big deal about Democracy, you had better inform the public of your intentiions of "Honesty" with regards to THEFT.

  12. Yeah, I know Mr.Wherry babbles most of the time, and it is silly to respond to his posts, but

    it's so darn interesting to see how long Wherry's spinning machine works before it finally wears itself out.

    His machine is still spinning pretty good. I'm amazed, actually!

  13. "Procedural limitations on the Prime Minister's power to prorogue"–yet to be defined?

    What a joke. The LPC had 16 months to come up with something concrete, yet all they have to offer in their platform is vague, earnest-sounding fluff.

    • And that is still twice as much as Harper proposed!

    • I dunno, I think you're being way too cynical. Yes, the proroguing stuff is junk. But most of the other stuff is actually really interesting, and fairly concrete too. For instance, the access to information posting service would be extremely powerful and important (can you imagine the fun that whistleblowers or leakers would have if they could see that somebody had played games with a request, as everyone thinks they do?).

      Similarly, the contracts/grants database would also be very important for the same reasons, and the long-form census is a bit of a no-brainer at this point.

      • Thanks for a thoughtful response, pdpd! I would have to know more about the proposed access to information posting service before I could comment on its merits. I like the contracts/grants database too. I also support reinstating the long-form census, although it's probably a stretch to file it under "democratic reform".

        • Yes, I agree the devil is always in the details, for sure. And I just guffawed while drinking my coffee, because my reaction to the census was exactly the same; Good? Yes. Democracy? Uh, sort of, I guess.

  14. "Procedural limitations on the Prime Minister's power to prorogue"–yet to be defined?

    What a joke. The LPC had 16 months to come up with something concrete, yet all they have to offer in their platform is vague, earnest-sounding fluff.

  15. Danny, do you watch the new CBC mini series? It's called "Canadian Historic Revisions"

    Last week's episode was a hoot. Did you know the 2008 Lib/NDP/BQ coalition agreement never really was? Yeah, Keith Boag told us all about it.

    Now I've heard that next week's episode will explain to us how the stuffed brown bags were never filled with money. During the Liberal sponsorship scandal, them brown bags were just filled with home made lunches! Who would have thought, eh!

    CBC's investigative reporters are the best!

    • That report was completely factual. They mentioned how the coalition agreement between the Libs/NDP mentioned consultation with the BQ, and they mentioned the supply and confidence agreement with the BQ. If you feel that the report was inaccurate because it wasn't frothing at the mouth about how Gilles Duceppe was going to be running the country, you and I have different ideas of what balanced reporting is. I'm guessing your definition is shared with FOX News? They make full use of the media's right to knowingly lie and mislead in the US… much like Harper lobbied for here.

      • When the Canadian bag of excuses runs out, grab for the anti-American goody bag of excuses. That one is as empty as it is laughable.

        How do you feel about Obama lately, now that he's decided to keep that prison in Cuba in tact? Like it so far?

        • I'm confused. I thought conservatives were anti-America now. The biggest hobby horse in the negative campaign ads seem to be that Iggy lived in the US and even had the audacity to say that he liked the place.

          I don't care about Obama. He wasn't my pick for president, even if it mattered.

          You're adept (no, that's not the right word–consistent) at changing the chanel. Your comment was about biased CBC reporting. I refute, you change the channel. Yes. Consistent is the word.

          I get the distinct impression that Harper could do absolutely anything and you would be cheering. It's more than a little unsettling and demonstrates a dearth of critical reasoning skills. What was the last thing Harper did that you disagree with? If it makes you happy, I'll go first with Iggy:

          Iggy is picking winning sectors. I don't think we should favour one sector of the economy over others. This is misguided industrial policy. Your turn. What was the last thing Harper has done that you disagreed with?

          • "You're adept (no, that's not the right word–consistent) at changing the chanel."

            Chanel :-) Now I have the image of Francien heavily doused in perfume traipsing through the room trying to distract us.

    • the real brown bags full of money, that we know for sure, were handed to Mulrony.

  16. Danny, do you watch the new CBC mini series? It's called "Canadian Historic Revisions"

    Last week's episode was a hoot. Did you know the 2008 Lib/NDP/BQ coalition agreement never really was? Yeah, Keith Boag told us all about it.

    Now I've heard that next week's episode will explain to us how the stuffed brown bags were never filled with money. During the Liberal sponsorship scandal, them brown bags were just filled with home made lunches! Who would have thought, eh!

    CBC's investigative reporters are the best!

  17. Thanks for the plug!

    Yes, simply google "catch 22 campaign" and you can join the effort to stop Harper.

  18. I don't like changing the mechanisms for pro-roguing. We need leaders who won't abuse the power, not changes to the power!

    • Yes, Yes, if only we could have caught PM Chretien in time. Oh, wait, he did some pie throwing too. What an inventive guy that was!

    • What harm is there, for instance, in requiring the House to demonstrate confidence in the house before granting prorogation? The executive works for Parliament, and shouldn't be able to dismiss it without consent.

  19. I don't like changing the mechanisms for pro-roguing. We need leaders who won't abuse the power, not changes to the power!

  20. I want to hear what experts on democratic renewal have to say about these suspiciously vague and insubstantial gestures. I imagine that many of them (at least the non-partisan ones) are pretty disappointed with this vacuous window dressing.

    • They know where they stand with Harper, who made many noises about transparency and increased accountability but didn't do much to deliver and generally lessened transparency and accountability.

      I suppose the platform could have consisted of all the legislation they intend to introduce over the mandate, but it might get a bit large.

      The problem is that when you make very specific promises, you tend to box yourself in. If the committee process and negotiations with other parties lead to alterations in how these policies are implemented, then they will have broken their promise. I'd rather get better policy.

    • Life is full of gambles, but I think the guy who says he's not gonna punch you in the face strikes most reasonable people as a better bet than the guy who has already punched you a few times and doesn't want to talk about it now.

      • Halo, if you think the "face-punch" metaphor is apt, wouldn't you also be disappointed in the guy who broke his promise to change the rules? After all, he was the guy who tried to capitalize on the anger sixteen months ago, by pledging to reform the system so that face-punching would no longer be possible.

        Now he's just offering a shrug and a smile, saying: "Fuhgeddaboudit! Just trust me!" The worst part is that his own knuckles bear the faded scars of decades of face-punching transgressions. ;-)

    • Have you been talking to Mark?

      • Jenn, I've been corresponding with Mark and Phil regularly during the campaign (via email). I can certainly understand Mark's frustration on this point.

        What is your take on the prorogation stuff?

        • Cheater. I don't have emails. I actually haven't had a chance to read the thing yet, even though its been emailed to me three times and I've seen links at least three other times. I did good watching it this morning, although I'll pay for it tomorrow. Having an election during tax season is the most unfair thing in the world, to me!

          • I feel your pain, because I've been inconveniently snowed under with work in the past week. I don't have as much time as I'd like to follow the election.

            By the way, I also enjoy following Mark on Twitter–he has some great observations!

    • Thank you CR, it's gone!

      How about that uh, I am still a little bit shocked to tell you the truth!

      Thanks again!

      • You're welcome! Any time!

        • : )

  21. I want to hear what experts on democratic renewal have to say about these suspiciously vague and insubstantial gestures. I imagine that many of them (at least the non-partisan ones) are pretty disappointed with this vacuous window dressing.

  22. In my thoroughly unbiased opinion, I thought both the platform and the performance were great!
    as to this ….
    "all they have to offer in their platform is vague, earnest-sounding fluff. "
    Was this complicated critique dreamed before the release (like the main Con response)
    And that so describes the Con approach (that has worked so well) for the past 5 years.
    And if one was to accept your take on the Lib platform, then the line: "cons did it first" comes to mind.
    (echoing the first defense of any Con caught doing anything untoward: Libs did it first.)

    • Waw, I'm impressed, NothernPoV.

      You're going beyond the one-liners this morning. How does it feel to step out of your comfort zone?

    • NorthernPoV, were you responding to my comment? It's hard to tell, because even though you copied and pasted something I said, you failed to connect in any way with the point I was making.

      Helpful suggestion: Try using the "Reply" button next time!

      • Your so durn smart (and important too) CR! How's the pickup truck?

        • I don't understand the "pickup truck" reference. Is it because I'm from Alberta?

      • Yes, it is hard for rational people to "connect in any way with the point" you attempt to make here or elsewhere.
        I tried the reply button but your post was still regurgitated nonsense. ;-)

  23. In my thoroughly unbiased opinion, I thought both the platform and the performance were great!
    as to this ….
    "all they have to offer in their platform is vague, earnest-sounding fluff. "
    Was this complicated critique dreamed before the release (like the main Con response)
    And that so describes the Con approach (that has worked so well) for the past 5 years.
    And if one was to accept your take on the Lib platform, then the line: "cons did it first" comes to mind.
    (echoing the first defense of any Con caught doing anything untoward: Libs did it first.)

  24. You have been running on your rims for quite a while now.

  25. Seems like lately, FVerhoeven, it's all your turn, all the time.

  26. Finally a promise of open accountable government : I like it.

  27. Oh, hi Jan. How's your morning going so far?

    Learned any new songs during this morning's Catch 22 service?

    "Anti-Harper, here we come
    Anti-Harper, you're so done!"

    That hymn's getting a bit old, no?

  28. Yes, Yes, if only we could have caught PM Chretien in time. Oh, wait, he did some pie throwing too. What an inventive guy that was!

  29. Election promises are worth about as much as the "cash value" of a savings coupon, regardless of party.

  30. Election promises are worth about as much as the "cash value" of a savings coupon, regardless of party.

  31. Waw, I'm impressed, NothernPoV.

    You're going beyond the one-liners this morning. How does it feel to step out of your comfort zone?

  32. She probably gets paid by the post. I guess the book isn't selling very well.

  33. That report was completely factual. They mentioned how the coalition agreement between the Libs/NDP mentioned consultation with the BQ, and they mentioned the supply and confidence agreement with the BQ. If you feel that the report was inaccurate because it wasn't frothing at the mouth about how Gilles Duceppe was going to be running the country, you and I have different ideas of what balanced reporting is. I'm guessing your definition is shared with FOX News? They make full use of the media's right to knowingly lie and mislead in the US… much like Harper lobbied for here.

  34. What harm is there, for instance, in requiring the House to demonstrate confidence in the house before granting prorogation? The executive works for Parliament, and shouldn't be able to dismiss it without consent.

  35. They know where they stand with Harper, who made many noises about transparency and increased accountability but didn't do much to deliver and generally lessened transparency and accountability.

    I suppose the platform could have consisted of all the legislation they intend to introduce over the mandate, but it might get a bit large.

    The problem is that when you make very specific promises, you tend to box yourself in. If the committee process and negotiations with other parties lead to alterations in how these policies are implemented, then they will have broken their promise. I'd rather get better policy.

  36. Yeah, something fresh. LOL

  37. Now, there, Igarvin. Don't make fun of cowpatties.

  38. NorthernPoV, were you responding to my comment? It's hard to tell, because even though you copied and pasted something I said, you failed to connect in any way with the point I was making.

    Helpful suggestion: Try using the "Reply" button next time!

  39. I didn't know there was a limit on postings. You don't have to read what I write. It's really that simple. I thought folks like you could at least understand that much, no?

  40. And that is still twice as much as Harper proposed!

  41. My book will never sell. You gotta be connected in the Bookworld, in order to write one thing and then do the exact opposite.

    Sure, Ignatieff has written and published many books, some on human rights and stuff to boot.

    And where was Ignatieff's voice when he decided to be appointed leader of the Liberal party rather then deciding to be chosen by the party membership?

    It's easy to write down the theoretical stuff when it comes to democracy, but in practice leader Ignatieff doesn't stand up for any of the principles he so eloquantly writes about.

    Should we care? I think we should. I think it is important to be able to think independently. And I am capable of doing that.

  42. Oh, and Curious, I'm not afraid to place my real name above every posting I make.

    Very few people here on the boards are as courageous as I am.

    When hiding behind a ficticious name, one can say whatever.

    I hold honesty as value # 1. How come you don't?

  43. A general layout of policy is nice but does any of it have any more of snowballs chance in hell of being enacted?

    • It all depends: With the consulting powers of the BQ, one never knows!

      :)

    • That power rests with us, the Canadian voters. So it can live to be enacted if you vote accordingly.

      • I'm old enough to know it takes more than voting for platform to expect a Government to implement it.

  44. A general layout of policy is nice but does any of it have any more of snowballs chance in hell of being enacted?

  45. Your so durn smart (and important too) CR! How's the pickup truck?

  46. By all means, please post your full name, address and place of employment, in the interests of courage.

  47. Yes, it is hard for rational people to "connect in any way with the point" you attempt to make here or elsewhere.
    I tried the reply button but your post was still regurgitated nonsense. ;-)

  48. Where, oh, where, Andrew (not PorC) did you find that bag of excuses? It never seems to run out.

  49. Con bitterness is a sad thing. LOL

    Chicken Harper still hiding.

  50. Con bitterness is a sad thing. LOL

    Chicken Harper still hiding.

  51. It all depends: With the consulting powers of the BQ, one never knows!

    :)

  52. I was highly amused watching Harper presenting another of his 'sometime in the future' tax credit plans this morning. The contrast of him standing there with that stomach of his and people exercising in the background – who was the genius that thought that up?

  53. That power rests with us, the Canadian voters. So it can live to be enacted if you vote accordingly.

  54. I dunno, I think you're being way too cynical. Yes, the proroguing stuff is junk. But most of the other stuff is actually really interesting, and fairly concrete too. For instance, the access to information posting service would be extremely powerful and important (can you imagine the fun that whistleblowers or leakers would have if they could see that somebody had played games with a request, as everyone thinks they do?).

    Similarly, the contracts/grants database would also be very important for the same reasons, and the long-form census is a bit of a no-brainer at this point.

  55. When the Canadian bag of excuses runs out, grab for the anti-American goody bag of excuses. That one is as empty as it is laughable.

    How do you feel about Obama lately, now that he's decided to keep that prison in Cuba in tact? Like it so far?

  56. I'm curious to know if anyone here, of any stripe, has in the first week of the campaign been heard or seen anything that would sway you to switch your vote from your usual to something new?

    I think I will ask at the end of every week. Anyone … anyone?

    • Yes…Liberals have performed very well, and will vote liberal for the first time ever!

    • Nope : )

      • Oh but you're a die-hard, Claudia — if we ever win you over, that will indeed be impressive.

        • Hahaha that I am, I've always voted Liberal until 2008, so never said never, I must say they the LPC is better organized and Iggy was really engaging and likeable, I am not surprised about that, I've always knew he would do well that way but he still doesn't have good leadership skills or raw instincts for politics to be able to vote for him.

          One thing is to be a good speaker and another a good leader. Rex Murphy said it best when he was talking about Obama a few weeks ago "He is an excellent Master of Ceremonies" and I feel Iggy is the same, he has a philosophers mind, full of hope and dreams and it does sound wonderful, but reality is different and you have to put those aside somewhat, is not to say that cannot be achievable is just that it takes more than that, assertiveness it`s gold, there are tough calls to be made and Iggy doesn`t have it in him.

          I also disagree with harper 50% of the time I think he is very wrong in a lot of issues but I like his focus and discipline.

          • So you will condone Harpers Contempt of Parliament actions because Ignatieff does not seem quite right as a leader?

            Go figure..

          • No, I don't agree I am not a blind partisan, but I still rather have him than someone like Ignatieff with no vision or instincts.

            Now, let's turn the question around has any other than Harper had done the same, would you be OK with it? Methinks yes, this you just not liking Harper. There have been other PM who have gotten away with it because of their majority status, you want Parliament reform, Iggy is not the answer.

      • Mike T,

        I find this highly offensive.

        This is not the first time that you have chosen to insult me or my integrity because you don't like my political views.

        I will respectfully ask you, to abstain to reply to any of my comments from now.

        Thanks.

        • yawn.

        • Claudia, I reported Mike T's highly offensive comment. It should be gone soon.

    • Not yet, but every time I step behind the cardboard screen I find the urge to vote Marxist-Leninist fairly overwhelming :)

      • I am going to vote for me : )

    • My vote is not going to change; my wife, who works for one of the other parties (in a provincial jurisdiction) is changing her vote. But she tends to sway between the Grits and dips from election to election…

  57. I'm curious to know if anyone here, of any stripe, has in the first week of the campaign been heard or seen anything that would sway you to switch your vote from your usual to something new?

    I think I will ask at the end of every week. Anyone … anyone?

  58. I'm glad you were amused. Jan.

    See, that's so nice about following the Catch 22 group. It amuses me. Forever the Catch 22 group pretends that elections should be about more than simple superficial stuff, and here comes the catch: let's talk some more about Harper's belly.

    When is it Ms.Atwood's turn to do some high pitching?

  59. I'm old enough to know it takes more than voting for platform to expect a Government to implement it.

  60. Thanks for a thoughtful response, pdpd! I would have to know more about the proposed access to information posting service before I could comment on its merits. I like the contracts/grants database too. I also support reinstating the long-form census, although it's probably a stretch to file it under "democratic reform".

  61. Yes…Liberals have performed very well, and will vote liberal for the first time ever!

  62. I don't agree with you on much, but I agree about this…

    I've been saying it for years; "be yourself online."

  63. Yes, I agree the devil is always in the details, for sure. And I just guffawed while drinking my coffee, because my reaction to the census was exactly the same; Good? Yes. Democracy? Uh, sort of, I guess.

  64. Harper's performance – hard to be more superficial than his Get Fit Infomercial. Didn't they use to call him a policy wonk?

  65. I'm confused. I thought conservatives were anti-America now. The biggest hobby horse in the negative campaign ads seem to be that Iggy lived in the US and even had the audacity to say that he liked the place.

    I don't care about Obama. He wasn't my pick for president, even if it mattered.

    You're adept (no, that's not the right word–consistent) at changing the chanel. Your comment was about biased CBC reporting. I refute, you change the channel. Yes. Consistent is the word.

    I get the distinct impression that Harper could do absolutely anything and you would be cheering. It's more than a little unsettling and demonstrates a dearth of critical reasoning skills. What was the last thing Harper did that you disagree with? If it makes you happy, I'll go first with Iggy:

    Iggy is picking winning sectors. I don't think we should favour one sector of the economy over others. This is misguided industrial policy. Your turn. What was the last thing Harper has done that you disagreed with?

  66. I'm not the one bragging about being open about my identity. You said you're posting under your real name. You haven't actually posted your name in a way that clearly identifies you from any of hundreds or thousands of people. So, that isn't really courageous.

    That said, I don't want you to actually post that info. There are good reasons to maintain a degree of anonymity on the net.

  67. Oh, so it's the news media and the book world who are conspiring to keep you down?

    Protip: Book world people are literate, and are used to seeing a lot of nonsense. I haven't read your book, but if the quality of your ideas there parallels your writing here, you may want to consider direct sales through talk radio ads.

  68. Life is full of gambles, but I think the guy who says he's not gonna punch you in the face strikes most reasonable people as a better bet than the guy who has already punched you a few times and doesn't want to talk about it now.

  69. Nope : )

  70. I see "coalition" has overtaken "adscam" as the conservative topic changing mechanism.

  71. Oh but you're a die-hard, Claudia — if we ever win you over, that will indeed be impressive.

  72. "You're adept (no, that's not the right word–consistent) at changing the chanel."

    Chanel :-) Now I have the image of Francien heavily doused in perfume traipsing through the room trying to distract us.

  73. Not yet, but every time I step behind the cardboard screen I find the urge to vote Marxist-Leninist fairly overwhelming :)

  74. The party that told its members they could not vote for a leader by democratic vote but rather annointed one by its internal politbureau….tells Canada how its democracy must be improved.

  75. The party that told its members they could not vote for a leader by democratic vote but rather annointed one by its internal politbureau….tells Canada how its democracy must be improved.

    • I guess we could be taking democracy lessons from Peter Mackay and Rob Anders instead.

    • I can't understand how I haven't met any of you people at the Liberal Converntions you seem to have attended. The one, specifically, where Liberals voted in rules regarding a leadership change, and if a convention is required for an acclaimed candidate, etc.

      Liberals voted, in other words.

    • "The party that told its members they could not vote for a leader by democratic vote but rather annointed one by its internal politbureau….tells Canada how its democracy must be improved."

      Why is this a constant meme among critics of the Liberals in general, or Ignatieff in particular, when the mother of all parliamentary democracies has at least twice in recent history replaced not just party leaders, but sitting prime ministers?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_thatcher#Rehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_blair#Events_pr

      Ignatieff came into office via a selection process that is both accepted and established in parliamentary democracies, and that doesn't directly involve either a convention of party members or the electorate.

      If you're unhappy with this process, you should view it as a long-persistent flaw in parliamentary democracies, not an example that "tells Canada how its democracy must be improved".

  76. Hahaha that I am, I've always voted Liberal until 2008, so never said never, I must say they the LPC is better organized and Iggy was really engaging and likeable, I am not surprised about that, I've always knew he would do well that way but he still doesn't have good leadership skills or raw instincts for politics to be able to vote for him.

    One thing is to be a good speaker and another a good leader. Rex Murphy said it best when he was talking about Obama a few weeks ago "He is an excellent Master of Ceremonies" and I feel Iggy is the same, he has a philosophers mind, full of hope and dreams and it does sound wonderful, but reality is different and you have to put those aside somewhat, is not to say that cannot be achievable is just that it takes more than that, assertiveness it`s gold, there are tough calls to be made and Iggy doesn`t have it in him.

    I also disagree with harper 50% of the time I think he is very wrong in a lot of issues but I like his focus and discipline.

  77. I am going to vote for me : )

  78. Mike T,

    I find this highly offensive.

    This is not the first time that you have chosen to insult me or my integrity because you don't like my political views.

    I will respectfully ask you, to abstain to reply to any of my comments from now.

    Thanks.

  79. I guess we could be taking democracy lessons from Peter Mackay and Rob Anders instead.

  80. Can someone please come out and say they will abolish crown copyright already?

  81. Can someone please come out and say they will abolish crown copyright already?

  82. Have you been talking to Mark?

  83. I can't understand how I haven't met any of you people at the Liberal Converntions you seem to have attended. The one, specifically, where Liberals voted in rules regarding a leadership change, and if a convention is required for an acclaimed candidate, etc.

    Liberals voted, in other words.

  84. yawn.

  85. "The party that told its members they could not vote for a leader by democratic vote but rather annointed one by its internal politbureau….tells Canada how its democracy must be improved."

    Why is this a constant meme among critics of the Liberals in general, or Ignatieff in particular, when the mother of all parliamentary democracies has at least twice in recent history replaced not just party leaders, but sitting prime ministers?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_thatcher#Rehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_blair#Events_pr

    Ignatieff came into office via a selection process that is both accepted and established in parliamentary democracies, and that doesn't directly involve either a convention of party members or the electorate.

    If you're unhappy with this process, you should view it as a long-persistent flaw in parliamentary democracies, not an example that "tells Canada how its democracy must be improved".

  86. Jenn, I've been corresponding with Mark and Phil regularly during the campaign (via email). I can certainly understand Mark's frustration on this point.

    What is your take on the prorogation stuff?

  87. Halo, if you think the "face-punch" metaphor is apt, wouldn't you also be disappointed in the guy who broke his promise to change the rules? After all, he was the guy who tried to capitalize on the anger sixteen months ago, by pledging to reform the system so that face-punching would no longer be possible.

    Now he's just offering a shrug and a smile, saying: "Fuhgeddaboudit! Just trust me!" The worst part is that his own knuckles bear the faded scars of decades of face-punching transgressions. ;-)

  88. Cheater. I don't have emails. I actually haven't had a chance to read the thing yet, even though its been emailed to me three times and I've seen links at least three other times. I did good watching it this morning, although I'll pay for it tomorrow. Having an election during tax season is the most unfair thing in the world, to me!

  89. I feel your pain, because I've been inconveniently snowed under with work in the past week. I don't have as much time as I'd like to follow the election.

    By the way, I also enjoy following Mark on Twitter–he has some great observations!

  90. I don't understand the "pickup truck" reference. Is it because I'm from Alberta?

  91. Claudia, I reported Mike T's highly offensive comment. It should be gone soon.

  92. the real brown bags full of money, that we know for sure, were handed to Mulrony.

  93. Thank you CR, it's gone!

    How about that uh, I am still a little bit shocked to tell you the truth!

    Thanks again!

  94. You're welcome! Any time!

  95. Hey, don't get me wrong. I enjoy reading what you write, and even if I didn't, what right would I have to tell you not to post all day and all night if that's what floats your boat? I just couldn't help but notice, be vaguely amused by, and point out the dig you made at somebody else for essentially the same thing.

  96. Don't blame FV (completely)… the lethargy emitted from the Harper campaign has now hit its peak. By week 3 the so-called leader will be turtling when someone asks to do a piano 'duet' and he'll just be tossing out recycled John Howard policies…

  97. "I'm not afraid to place my real name above every posting I make."

    … probably necessary to get that paycheck with the big 'Steve's Government' sticker on it. Do you also get 'free coffee refills in 2015' stamps?

  98. My vote is not going to change; my wife, who works for one of the other parties (in a provincial jurisdiction) is changing her vote. But she tends to sway between the Grits and dips from election to election…

  99. : )

  100. This is a good start…

    Restore Democracy . . . Vote Liberal!

    Or at least do not vote Conservative. The current group are power hungry neo conservatives with a mission to destroy the middle class.

    Bring back the Conservatives with a conscience

  101. This is a good start…

    Restore Democracy . . . Vote Liberal!

    Or at least do not vote Conservative. The current group are power hungry neo conservatives with a mission to destroy the middle class.

    Bring back the Conservatives with a conscience

  102. So you will condone Harpers Contempt of Parliament actions because Ignatieff does not seem quite right as a leader?

    Go figure..

  103. No, I don't agree I am not a blind partisan, but I still rather have him than someone like Ignatieff with no vision or instincts.

    Now, let's turn the question around has any other than Harper had done the same, would you be OK with it? Methinks yes, this you just not liking Harper. There have been other PM who have gotten away with it because of their majority status, you want Parliament reform, Iggy is not the answer.

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