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The Commons: Justin Trudeau, Monday night, Renfrew

‘What I’ve seen over the past six months … is people who want to believe that politics can matter once again’


 

It is important to keep this much in mind: This might be as good as it ever gets for Justin Trudeau.

He is, in the estimation of one poll released last week, in position to become the 23rd prime minister of this country. In the three weeks he has been leader of the Liberals, the party has raised more than a million dollars, the sort of pace that would finally challenge the significant financial advantage the Conservatives have enjoyed in recent years. Another poll suggests the attack ads that the Conservatives have used their riches to deploy are failing to deeply undermine Mr. Trudeau’s standing with the public.

All of which is all well and good, but not much, if anything, more than might have been said of Stephane Dion or Michael Ignatieff or Thomas Mulcair or even Nycole Turmel (thirteen months ago, with the interim NDP leader in place, the New Democrats were tied atop the theoretical standings). It did not end well for Mr. Dion, nor Mr. Ignatieff. It has not gone obviously well for Mr. Mulcair. (And the New Democrats had the temerity to dump Ms. Turmel a mere two days after she pulled them even with the Conservatives.) And so it must be understood that this might be the high point for Mr. Trudeau.

Where Mr. Trudeau is now along the arc of his story we can’t know now.

Where he is this evening, in the literal sense, is the Ottawa Valley, where the bugs are big enough to make a sound when they hit your windshield. Past Calabogie and Arnprior, but before Cobden, to Renfrew (pop. 8,218), an hour northwest of Parliament Hill. Past the water tower and the fast food franchises and through downtown to the Royal Canadian Legion, Branch 148, with a french fry stand in the parking lot.

Inside the legion hall, blue plastic chairs are lined up before the stage. On the stage, father and son fiddlers warm up the crowd. Atop the stage is a picture of the Queen. Red and white Liberal signs are taped on the wood-panelled walls. Trays of triangle sandwiches (turkey, salmon, ham, egg and beef) sit on tables in the corner beside trays of vegetables and trays of cookies, cartons of juice (lemon ice tea, raspberry lemonade and lemonade) and urns of coffee and tea and the sort of small styrofoam cups that you might have thought were illegal to use by now. There is, of course, a lot of white hair here, but also parents with children and several men and women who are old enough to vote, but not old enough to have mortgages and young men with clipboards. Everyone is made to wear a name tag and the young men with clipboards will get the names and email addresses of 250 people this evening.

A Liberal last won this riding in 1997—there’s a small picture in the far left corner of the room here of Hec Cloutier posing with a veteran of D-Day—and with that Liberal running as an independent against the Conservative incumbent in the last election, the Liberals received just 6,545 votes here.

He arrives a little after 6:30pm and proceeds with the shaking of hands. He is wearing a white button-up shirt, open at the collar, slightly weathered jeans, a brown belt and brown sneakers. When he is invited to the stage he receives a standing ovation.

“What a pleasure it is for me to be back in the valley,” he says. “Here in Renfrew the welcome is always as warm as the sunshine and today it’s really warm indeed.”

Now a joke.

“What a great time of year it is. It’s spring and, like clockwork, the birds are singing, the buds are coming out on the trees, attack ads are appearing on TV,” he quips. “It’s the rite of spring here in Canada.”

The crowd laughs.

And now both a flattering assessment of the country and a segue to the problem Mr. Trudeau claims to aim to address.

“It’s been a wonderful past six months, through this leadership campaign,” he says, perhaps still getting used to the fact that that campaign is over, “I’ve managed to travel to all sorts of different corners across the country and everywhere, whether they’re Conservative areas or less-Conservative areas or Liberal areas or anywhere across the country, everywhere I meet Canadians who aren’t defined by the brand of politics that they follow or the colour or the approach, but are defined by a sense of optimism about our future. We are a people who are confident, forward-looking, engaged and ready, always, to roll up our sleeves and build a better country.”

Hurray for us.

“And that’s what we’ve lost a little bit of in the past days and past years in politics,” Mr. Trudeau says. “And that’s what I know Canadians are hungry to get back.”

The crowd applauds.

He talks here about the “politics of negativity, of division, of fear.” He says it will get you elected, but it leaves you unable to govern.

And then there is an explanation of the country that might best be reported at length.

“And let’s face it, Canada is an extraordinary, unlikely, country. We are defined by the fact that our ancestors, or ourselves, came to this country, from distant lands, trying to build a better future for ourselves and for our children and our descendants, and when we got to this land, whether it was 400 years ago or 40 days ago, we deal with the same thing. A country that’s too big, too empty and, notwithstanding beautiful days like this, too dang cold too many months of the year.”

Someone in the crowd suggests long johns, but Mr. Trudeau doesn’t pause to engage the joke.

“So what we do and what we’ve done throughout history is learn to lean on each other. You learn to succeed in Canada, it takes a lot of hard work, but no matter how hard you work, no matter how smart and capable you are, you need to know that you can rely on your neighbours in times of trouble,” he says. “And that’s universal. Here in this country, we’ve learnt how to lean on each other. How to build success as communities and as a country out of what was an inhospitable land. And those two facets of working hard and strong communities is what has shaped us into the modern country we are. We’re that one place in the world that has figured out how to be strong not in spite of our differences but because of them. Regardless of your background, regardless of where you settled geographically, or your religion or your language, Canadians are defined not by singular histories or culture, but by a shared set of values. Values of openness, respect, hard work, compassion, a willingness to be there for each other, a willingness to roll up your sleeves and drive to succeed, a desire for equality, for justice. These are the things that define us. And we had to learn how to define ourselves by these shared values because, on the surface, we are so different. And that’s what has made Canada just such an extraordinary success through the 20th century.”

There is something here. There is a hint of what could be a serious discussion about government and democracy and what we want and what we should hope for and how we should go about doing it.

He talks about inequality and resource and environmental concerns and fear and insecurity. He wonders aloud, rhetorically, why the politics of division is so effective. He mocks the government’s assurances (“We’re doing better than Spain,” he fake boasts). He says something has changed. And then he’s explaining the country again.

“The story of this country—that story of hard work and pulling together—built the premise, the basic promise of this country. That wherever you are from, whatever language you spoke, you could come to this country, work hard and you’d be able to create greater opportunities and a better life for your children here than you ever could have anywhere at home. And every successive generation has built on that, so that every coming year, every next generation, could expect better than the last. And that’s something deeply comforting in the very idea of progress that this country is built on. That you build for the future. That your hard work will provide for your shoulders for your kids and grandkids to stand on,” he says. “But now… for the first time perhaps… in the story of this country… people are worried that the next generation will not have the same or better quality of life than this. That our kids might not have greater opportunities than we did. And that’s incredibly destabilizing.”

The country is doing well, but as individuals we are feeling the strain, he says. He has a statistic on median family income. He takes note of where he is and there’s a tangent about our history of military sacrifice and then it’s back to what division has wrought: a sort of hiding and settling.

“That’s. Not. Good. Enough,” he says.

To listen for the first time is to wonder where he’s going with all this and whether he’s really ready to engage in a philosophical debate about achieving the collective good. His speaking style is not too overwrought. His left hand is halfway into his pocket and he gestures with his right. He is smooth and loud and generally without affectation.

“What I see right across the country is, more now than ever before,” he explains, “Canadians don’t believe that politics is a useful tool to achieving those big, collective dreams for ourselves.”

There is still, he adds, a “a very strong sense of citizenship in Canada.” And then he elaborates and expands and then there’s a bit about our willingness to take a position on big issues like climate change and peace in the Middle East. And then he’s back to our ability to believe in politics.

“But politics? Politics has ceased to be a meaningful way for ordinary citizens to help shape their community and their world, particularly the politics that happens down the road from you in the House of Commons. And that’s what we have to turn around.”

Fair enough. But how? With speeches like this? With someone like Mr. Trudeau? With a new app? With open nominations at the riding level and more freedom for MPs, sure, maybe. But what else?

There are the bones of something here. Or, rather, there are the guts of something. At some point it needs the structure and ability of muscle and bone.

“What I’ve seen over the past six months and what I’ve continued to see as I get out across the country is people who want to believe that politics can matter once again,” he says. “Can be a place where we talk about big words like vision and a long-term plan and robust, meaningful solutions that’ll have an impact on the next generation. But we’ve grown cynical. And we’re not sure that’s possible anymore. And collectively, as Canadians, we’ve begun to despair.”

There is an argument here. Or at least an argument to be made. There is something deeply important here. Or there could be. About how Stephen Harper has governed and how Mr. Trudeau wishes to govern and how we want to govern ourselves. About what politics is and should be. About how we imagine ourselves as a collection of 35 million people.

It is an argument that Stephen Harper has been quietly engaging for seven years. It is an argument that Thomas Mulcair quietly confronted last month (“We don’t have to accept less. We can strive for more.”) And it is an argument Mr. Trudeau now seems to be building towards here in Renfrew in the company of a couple hundred people and several varieties of sandwich.

“And that’s why over the past six months of this leadership and into my three weeks as the leader of the Liberal party of Canada now…”

The crowd applauds.

“I have seen people responding, incredibly positively, to the idea, not that we’re going to bring in all the answers, but that the Liberal party of Canada is once again going to ask Canadians to help us build those solutions.”

He mocks the Liberal tendencies toward self-satisfaction and arrogance and he talks about rebuilding the party and this idea of doing that in collaboration with Canadians.

“That sense of trust we have to rebuild doesn’t come from convincing Canadians to once again trust politicians,” he says, “but from convincing Canadians that there are politicians who trust them.”

The crowd applauds, but it’s not clear what this means. And it can’t be known what this will amount to as it pertains to what Mr. Trudeau and the Liberals will offer the country in 2015.

What he has to offer now is the idea of him and a sense of what he might do. He has the broad strokes of what might be an interesting stump speech and a raw ability to deliver it. He has some favourable polling results and the party has a million dollars and the young men with clipboards have another 250 names and email addresses. There are so many more days between now and when it might all amount to something. And so much depends on Mr. Trudeau and his advisors and, of course, fate. Potential is a wonderful thing. But it is theoretical.

At about 7 o’clock, his advisor gives him the sign to wrap it up and Mr. Trudeau finishes on a rousing note. A woman comes on stage to thank him and present him with a bottle of maple syrup. And then Mr. Trudeau walks off the stage and down to the floor of the legion hall, where a line forms around the room of those who want to shake his hand or get his autograph or have their picture taken with him or some combination thereof. He pulls people in close for photos and flashes a toothy grin. Young women and old women giggle in his presence. It takes him more than a hour to get through the line.


 

The Commons: Justin Trudeau, Monday night, Renfrew

  1. You really are one of the better journalists out there, you never let cynicism shape your narrative, and while the been there, seen most of it and the you have too many t-shirts to not prove it is there, it’s not the story.

    • I grt the feeling by the way Wherry describes even the most minute detail of Justin/s dress and actions that he may have crossed the stalker line.

  2. Wherry I think gets it and I think most Canadians get it. Trudeau is lacking substance and talking about negative politics is appealing but gets to be boring pretty quickly. Trudeau needs to put some meat on the bones or people will stop listening. I think he is a typical Liberal without any real policy other than sitting around the campfire singing kumbaya.

    • Mervin, I suspect you might be the very last person in the nation to know what a “typical Liberal” looks like or or thinks about. I mean, seriously, when was the last time you sat around a campfire singing kumbaya with even one Liberal, let alone a representative sample?

      • We don’t sit around with them… we just watch and shake our heads.

        • A sure sign that you don’t get it. Liberals are far from the only source of Con befuddlement.

          • what befuddles us Tories is how easy it is to get you haters going :)

          • That’s a pretty amusing construction of recent events. As far as I can tell, it’s Cons who are reaching apoplectic levels of hysteria over Trudeau.

            I mean, who’s been putting out the personal attack ads lately?

            Oh, yeah – the JT haters.

          • Cause when I think Luvbug, Pierre Poilievre comes to mind.

      • If Trudeau keeps talking the way he does people are going to stop listening. Can you imagine someone who wants to be PM talking about Economic Action ads in his opportunity to question the PM? Really is that all that is important or is it really a sign that Trudeau has nothing serious to say about anything of significance.? These talking points about making Canada better and the other crap he spouts is like sitting around a campfire singing kumbaya.
        By the way I did vote for the Liberal party…first PET and then Chretien. However, it will be a frosty day in hell before I vote for this kid born with a silver spoon in his mouth and is where he is because of a name.

        • That’s OK, Mervin…you just keep wallowing in your certitude and purity of conviction, while Con support continues to erode virtually everywhere but in Alberta.

          Harper may yet get his firewall in a highly ironic way..

          • you are too funny – keep up the good work!

        • same here – I worked my young Keyster off for Trudeau Senior and was an executive in the Young Liberals and ran a committee for Chretien (policy planning and review) – however it will be a cold day in you know where before I vote for junior – I will answer pollsters that I support him – I will hand over a 10 dollars contribution now and then as I put my money where my mouth is and I will thumb up everything that supports him on web forums – BUT – I will most certainly vote for Harper :)

          • I guess all those polls and all that money do not tell the tale. In reality they represent Harper supporters pretending to support Trudeau in order to give liberals a false sense of confidence.

            (the claim you actually donated kind of gave you away…)

          • This has to be the most cunningiest of cunning plans so far, It’s so brilliant it could only improved by sending larger amounts, Wayne. I assume it includes giving yourself the old thumbs up.

    • Amen.. And a typical liberal will slap a carbon tax on us quick … they like to spend other people’s money.

      • Nice use of the follow up talking point but huge deduction for getting the party wrong, How could anyone not now think carbon tax=NDP?

        • Listen, there is really no party … its ideals I’m talking about. Either you believe in big nanny cradle to grave govt. You believe in providing special interests with lots of support at the cost of the working people, You believe in pie in the sky Kumbaya we all have to love each other and get along garbage or you believe we need to make Canada an economic engine and everybody as self sufficient as possible. We have to stop letting every poor Tom Dick and Harry in here as refugees and get quality immigration policies… we need to develop our resources and stop the taxation and regulation that is killing business. Yes.. the business that built this country. Government did not build this country … we did. The less they have intrusion into our lives… the better and more prosperous we are… its a proven fact. Socialist/communist societies never prosper and always fail. So if you are non-socialist non-communist then you vote conservative. If you love socialism, make your money off government or off the dole … then you vote liberal or NDP… they are pretty much the same thing anymore. But to get the money that supports their utopian theories, these socialists need money from the taxes of fhe people… and they need victims to serve so they can take their share. If you think for one moment Mr. Trudeau sees you as anything more than a pay check then I feel sorry for you and you will never see how much freedom you lose by letting government make all your decisions for you.

  3. Hollinm you talk about ‘typical Liberals’ without a hint of irony. You realize these kinds of devisive attitudes are part of what he’s saying we need to fix, right? Wow, you must be a typical ‘narrow minded Conservative.’ See how easy it is to label someone without substance? Let’s see what happens. He’ll come out of the gate with some policy shortly. There’s over 2 years until the election, he’s buidling good faith amongst the people right now, policy comes later. Once they release anything, the Tories are just going to attempt to shred it anyway. Better to play it close to the chest at first, and play the hands you know you’ll win until it’s time to go all in.

    • Generalizing is hollinms speciality… Just don’t get him talking about how “we”Canadians all think this or that.

    • So I guess it’s all about beating Harper, not about informing Canadians about your vision for Canada through policies, but fluffy speeches to the young gullible people.

      • Heh – I’m guessing you’re a Harper supporter. In which case, the irony of your comment is completely lost on you.

      • Huh? Where did you get that? The comment said no such thing.

      • YES !! that is exactly what it is – it is all about beating Harper and if you lose sight of that Harper wins and if you make it all about beating Harper Harper wins – the worse Harper does in the polls the next while the more likley he will win – you don’t see it becuase your hatred of the man blinds you to the obvious and this is what we Tories are counting on – there is only one way to beat Harper and that is a lot of NDP have to vote Liberal – OR – a lot of Liberals have to vote NDP – what do you think it is going to be?

        • I like it! You seem to be saying that the more widely loathed Harper becomes, the more likely he’ll be re-elected.

          I hope he and his enablers continue to work on that odd assumption. It’s already caused Con support to crater in Quebec and it appears to be in a free-fall in Atlantic Canada.

      • Real leaders get up in the house and repeat the words ‘jobs and the economy’ over and over and over…

    • Yes and his policies will be typical liberal ones… tax and spend.

      • Personally, I’m looking forward to a moratorium on gazebo construction.

      • As opposed to Harper’s policy to “blow the budget, flip the bird at Canadians, and party until you can’t find $3.2BILLION.” That’s okay ?

    • Trudeau’s problem is Tom Mulcair not Stephen Harper. If you think the Libs are going to win 100+ seats in the next election then you are dreaming in technicolour. Quebec, the Maritimes and a few seats in Ontario and B.C. won’t do the trick. Lets see his policies then. In the meantime he is simply talking platitudes, bromides and spinning himself silly.

      • Whistlin’ past the graveyard, Mervin. Keep it up, while Trudeau amasses party finances and rebuilds riding infrastructure. It’s ‘way too early in the game to be articulating an election platform and you know that, too.

        So you can rend your knickers into shreds about his lack of policy for a while yet. I suspect he would enjoy your evident frustration, if he paid you any attention at all.

      • You know h, and of course the weather out here is gorgeous but there were men everywhere – of all ages wearing cargo shorts and t shirts. It’s like while you guys were so busy denying climate change Trudeau was amassing an army of followers. I don’t want to alarm you, because I know how excitable you are but – they’re freaking everywhere.

        • Oh the foolishness of the naïve. I hope they can come out of their parents basements long enough on election day and vote. Do they know there is no internet voting yet?
          Once again if you believe that Trudeau is going to win 100+ seats to win government in the next election you really are living on the left coast.

      • Harper is going to get cut off at the knees, he’s going down hard. Trudeau has policies, and he’s a long-range planner. He’s smart to keep his cards close to his chest while he builds support across the country. There’s going to be one big party across Canada when Harper is ousted – (if he has the guts to stay for the election); that’s all I can say.

        • I don’t know if you are personally involved with Liberal policies but Trudeau is doing a good job in hiding those policies if he has any. I know as an ordinary citizen that I have no intention of voting for a kid who wears cargo pants, a T shirt and has not spoken seriously about anything of real substance. He has not espoused much about what he believes in other than platitudes and bromides. I would suspect a lot of Canadians think he is a cute kid with a famous name but is an empty suit. You may believe that we should fall for the guy because of his name and hair but running a country is serious business. He is not a serious person. And that is all I have to say.

  4. “We wonders aloud, rhetorically, why the politics of division is so effective”

    I like that we… Leave it in there. Great writing.

    Harper must be horrified. He likely never imagined he might end his political days drowning in an ocean of schmaltz. … but Canadians seem to want to “believe” again. And Harper has nothing to offer them.

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      • Sign of the times – punctuation marks seen as partisan. lol

    • Some Canadians want to ‘believe’ again, absolutely correct.

      This is why the name trudeau is so critical to any hope the liberals have of coming back to like. They have faith in the trudeau legacy, they dream of the day a trudeau leads them into glorious heaven on earth once again. Remember how great it was under pet, I mean – it just couldn’t have got any better!!

      Yes, they definitely want to believe again.

      Some people also want to believe in UFOs.

      In both cases, these people are just delusional.

      • I thought i put “believe” in quotes for a reason.

        Not perfect under PET. Unfortunately for you we can compare him to Harper or other PMs , not perfection…either way Harper loses for most of us still.
        Good to see just the name alone bugs the hell out of you still. Scared of ghosts or legends are we?Lacking a little faith in ourselves are we?
        Maybe you need to “believe”?

        • As I’ve said before, the name is a threat – not because pet really accomplished anything, or did any good for Canada – but rather than the liberals have done a very good job of building this myth of canada under pet. It is not based on reality, more on delusions – but nevertheless it exists.

          It is this myth, this legacy of pet being attributed to JT via the name trudeau. This is what they want to believe, I agree, and it has just a solid grasp on reality as belief in UFOs.

          • Whatever! You wont find a decent political scientist or historian in the country who would agree with you; even those who are most critical of PET’s economic legacy have good things to say about his national unity policies and social legacy in general. You’re simply insulting the people of this country who chose to keep him in office for 16 years.
            But then you guys aren’t really big on expert opinion are you?
            Even his Lordship disagrees with you. Can’t say fairer than that.

          • Maybe George Bush has put you off father/son leaders.

      • I used to believe in ‘fiscal conservatism’ – now I’m a cynic – you?

  5. Why did Wherry followed the leader of the 3rd party to Renfrew? Why all the reporting on Trudeau? The media barely cover Mulcair and keep all their vitriol for Harper. It.s pretty sad to see how low the media has sunk. It’s all fluff, like Facebook.

    • Is it fluff or vitriol, it really cannot be both, can it? I guess Aaron Wherry went to see what all the fuss is about and report back — isn’t that what media members do? Harper hates talking to the media, so why do you care anyway? If he announced he would take questions, every media outlet would attend. But he won’t.

    • And if Aaron Wherry wrote that the event was poorly attended, Justin Trudeau spoke foolishly, and nobody stayed to talk to him — well, then you would be really happy he went to the event and reported on it. Hypocrite apologists, all of you.

      • not this Tory !!!! the better Trudeau does the weaker Tommy is !!!!! and Tommy is a sly and cunning adversary far more so then the young Dauphin who doesn’t stand a chance with speeches like this one !!!

        • Then maybe you should lay off the carbon tax b.s. – problem is you can’t figure out who is the real enemy, can you?

    • How you gonna get attack material if the press doesn’t cover him – duh? This must be your first rodeo.

  6. Hey, I like the guy. I’ll vote for his party.

    • Likeability is not the reason you vote for somebody. That’s how we’ve been fooled. You vote for someone who can really lead ..and this guy is a name only.

      • Just look what happened in the States when they elected Obama. The country is in a mess with more division than ever before. That’s what happens when a cult like personality is voted for rather than solid, proven leadership.

        • Absolutely. No bigger divider than Obama. Any person who puts us into sections like “aboriginal vote” “women’s vote”, “immigrant vote”, “white vote”, “gay vote”. These are people to fear. And Left wingers thrive on that divisiveness.. So Justin has no room to talk …. His party would love us to believe conservatives are all rich white men… the trouble is that Liberal policy has not helped any of those groups and never will. We are all in this together… Martin Luther King had it right… we are all equal – there should be nobody treated differently than any one else. Special interest pandering has ruined this great country. And the sooner we stop this the better. Justin is trying to sneak in the back door with his words of “hope and change”. . so did Obama. Yeah.. if that’s hope and change you can keep it.

          • Harper used hope in his majority winning speech – of course he was just kidding.

          • Stupid is as stupid does. Obama inherited the mess George Bush left behind. Duh.

          • And how just how long are you going to fall for that old excuse… and George Bush inherited Clinton’s problems… who inherited Bush Sr’s problems…and on and on it goes..

      • Canadachick: I decided there’s no point in responding to your comment. Quite often I’ll debate someone of an opposing viewpoint if I see a spark of intelligence, or ingenuity, or even a sense of humour. Not this time.

      • Likeability is pretty much a signal that he’s intelligent, and that he connects with humanity. Unfortunately for you, it takes intelligence to recognize intelligence in another human; that’s why you choose Harper.

        • Unfortunately for both of you… I’m sure anyone could sell you just about anything.. if they have winning ways and a pretty face…which is absolutely obvious by your degrading comments because someone “dares” to challenge your support for an absolutely unqualified persona “cult of personality”. Don’t feel bad though … many have been fooled before you and many still will.. His handlers will fool a lot of people that way. Likeability is a signal of intelligence? That could be very true. Hitler was very intelligent and quite likeable. Funny how the neighbors were all commenting on how “likeable” Ariel Castro was… shocked and disbelieving that he could do such a thing. The problem with psychopathy is that they can charm the heck out of anybody…. and often do.

          • Obviously you have something right by that remark. You were all fooled easily by Harper and his goons. Harper could not charm anyone period. He’s as cold as a fish and as slippery as one . Maybe we could flush him down the toilet if we could find a big enough one to place him in.

            Apparently chicky you have been fooled and I am quite sure is was easily done. Cult you Say? That about describes the Harper regime and the man himself, his cult him personally stringing you a line which you fall for lure bait and sinker.

  7. “That sense of trust we have to rebuild doesn’t come from convincing Canadians to once again trust politicians,” he says, “but from convincing Canadians that there are politicians who trust them.”

    We all know its kinda of a cheesy line, but it hits pretty much the right note when you’re dealing with a trust deficient character like Harper. Expect to hear it again and again, because it’s effective and essentially true.

    • Are you talking about trust or faith/

      Trust should be earned, faith is given.

      JT has done absolutely nothing to earn your trust, therefore it is clear that you have mixed up faith with trust here.

      I am sorrily afraid that your ‘trust’ in JT will become a pitiful disappointment if he ever gets into office.

      • You didn’t read the quote did you? Sure JT has earned nothing yet. But he’s quite craftily turned the question on its head – does Harper trust Canadians? For many that answer will be no!
        Notice how they aren’t ceding the economy t Harper anymore or running on the mushy side of the liberal party like MI or Dion…they’ve learned something anyway.

        • What does it mean, for a politician to trust canadians? Even the reporter doesn’t know, and neither does JT. He just spun something that sounds good, but means nothing – its drivel.

          • Actually Wherry wondered[imo] what it might mean in practical real terms, he didn’t dismiss it out of hand. But you guys aren’t too big on distinction and nuance either.

          • Its plain b.s. but people like kcm2 who are driven by hate for Harper lap it up.

          • It means respecting what Canadians want, like legalizing marijuana.

        • Harper trusts us to care for ourselves. To be great Canadians. WE don’t need him, but JT will convince all you needy ones that you need HIM. You love him and you want him. He’s so cute, sexy wonderful…. Ooooh what a man. Makes me gag.

          • Yawn.

      • He has a trust fund!! Maybe he should start by sharing it!! !

        • Just like Harper does to reward you lazy, uneducated senseless childish bunch of morons who have no credible thoughts and verv few working brain cells.

    • Yeah… he’s got backers and he’s going to try the hope and change thing. Thats a typical left wing ploy… you play on the dissatisfaction of so many and sell them the utopia that can never be reached.

      • Sorta like Harper and open, accountable and transparent govt eh!

        • No government is open and accountable. But there is no such thing as utopia either.

          • SH 06 shouldn’t have to answer for SH 13 eh. Why not? He seems to feel that previous liberal govts are to held accountable right back to when a liberal tricked Adam[the first Conservative[ into trying the apples.

  8. And they called it puppy love…

    • Quite true. Personally I don’t trust or like any of them.. but I do feel I would have to stick with the path that will do the least harm and that would have to be Harper. Trudeau will change Canada to be something none of us will recognize in 20 years. Totally broke and rivaling Greece in our debt loads…

      • Harper has already done that. Changed Canada that we already do not recognize in 7 years. Didn’t take him long to do that did it canadchick.His pain far surpasses all the previous PM in Canada’s history but you wouldn’t know that would you? Too much in love with a reformer wesern allianc party leade who told Canada we would not recognise with him at the helm. That is the only promise he has kept and obviously the fence he put around Alberta is working. . A bunch of redneck brainless people.

  9. I remember when the Liberals governed. They would float ideas out about 6 months before they adopted them. If the ideas were not popular they did not need to adopt them.
    They also stole ideas from other parties and adopted them as their own. I like that kind of governing as it shows that they are listening to the people.
    As compared to now when they are pushing an agenda on people. It is an agenda that I do not want any part of.
    All I ask for in a government is to be fiscally responsible and socially listen to the people.

    • I like that kind of governing as it shows that they are listening to the people.
      It’s a double-edged sword. Yes, we want our leaders to listen to the people, but we also want them to lead, which means taking action without constantly floating trial balloons, polling, etc.

  10. 44 paragraphs describing a speech without a point or any substance. I guess Wherry and Trust Fund Trudeau have something in common!

  11. Nobody divides like a liberal. If the guy showed up in parliament much of the time, he’d have a lot more credibility. Its easy to talk the talk, but I don’t see him walk the walk.

  12. This speech is exactly why we Tories are supporting him as much as we are. I even forked over a few dollars for him and signed on as supporter and a few pollsters have heard from me and how much I support him and think he will be the next PM !!! – of course I am no longer and doubt I will ever vote Liberal again – Trudeau’s moment in the sun will end judging by how high the mainstream media is putting him the fall will be disastrous – this worries me a bit because he isn’t any real competition for Harper. The real fight though and you can see it shaping up as I type this is between the NDP and the Libs .. contrary to popular opinion which is almost always wrong – it isn’t Trudeau that Harper is afraid of as he will roll over the kid like a hot knife through warm butter – the real opposition to Harper is Mulcair and his Quebec block – right now every time Harper attacks Trudeau it isn’t Trudeau that is the target at all as what it really does is take the spotlight off of the NDP and makes them look irrelevant which they are right now! As it stands it is the NDP that is shaking in it’s collective boots because they are sinkin fast – ther really is only one option and you can see it at the scrums and on multiple party interviews whwere almost as much time is spent subtetly striking at the Lib’s and vice versa – you willl see this increase otherwise they are doomed! The best part for Harper right now is that there is no way there will be any ABC, or cooperation, or association and most assuredly no merger – as long as Harper keeps us Tories happy and he will because we haven’t had so mcuh fun in ages :)

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