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The Mercer challenge (II)


 

Michael Ignatieff tweets his acceptance of Rick Mercer’s offer.

I’m in.

You can make that contribution to the Alzheimer Society.


 

The Mercer challenge (II)

  1. I'm so discusted with Iffy!!1! Using his mother like a prop! His family hates him – and so does Canada!!1!!

    /snark off/

  2. I'm so discusted with Iffy!!1! Using his mother like a prop! His family hates him – and so does Canada!!1!!

    /snark off/

    • I like Michael Ignatieff, and I am a Canadian. I haven't seen or read anything in the news indicating that Mr. Ignatieff's family hates him.

      • I believe that Richard's comment was intended as a joke….

        • I bloody well hope that snark is a joke as one dealing with Alzheimer's in the family.

          • Yes, it was a joke. As someone who took care of his father as he died of Alzheimer's I find the attacks on Ignatieff to be in especially poor taste.

            (I thought the misspelling of "disgusted" and the use of "Iffy" would be sufficient to let people know I was mocking the right wing attacks :)

        • It wasn't really funny.

  3. This is awesome!

  4. This is awesome!

  5. I'd watch Ignatieff go after Harper.

  6. I'd watch Ignatieff go after Harper.

  7. I like Michael Ignatieff, and I am a Canadian. I haven't seen or read anything in the news indicating that Mr. Ignatieff's family hates him.

  8. I believe that Richard's comment was intended as a joke….

  9. Such a debate would provide Rick Mercer with enough material for the rest of the year … bring it on.

  10. Such a debate would provide Rick Mercer with enough material for the rest of the year … bring it on.

  11. We accept the challenge on one condition: we are shirts / Iggy is skins.

  12. We accept the challenge on one condition: we are shirts / Iggy is skins.

    • REversing this could lead to a Lib majority!

    • Yes, please. No one wants to see Harper without a shirt on!

      (Not that we want to see Ignatieff with his shirt off, either, but at least it wouldn't scar us for life!)

      ;D

  13. It would have been funny if Ignatieff offered his contribution to the Agoraphobic Society in support of Harper's 'condition'.

    I have immense respect for Mercer as an entertainer and I'm an avid watcher of RMR, but he's no moderator. I'm affraid this will be more a spectacle than a useful election venue.

  14. It would have been funny if Ignatieff offered his contribution to the Agoraphobic Society in support of Harper's 'condition'.

    I have immense respect for Mercer as an entertainer and I'm an avid watcher of RMR, but he's no moderator. I'm affraid this will be more a spectacle than a useful election venue.

    • And your problem with that is…?

      • Yeah, no kidding. I seem to recall in the US Presidential race, that the candidates did appear on shows like the Tonight Show and Daily Show. Some people have a sense of humour in this country.

  15. This blog post started me thinking about Harper's behaviour — then I found an essay titled "When the Boss is a Bully" — here's an excerpt along with a link:

    "Bullies do a lot of damage in organizations. They make subordinates run scared. They put people in a protective mode, which interferes with the company's ability to generate innovation. They don't build in perpetuation of the organization, says Levinson. "It keeps you in a state of psychological emergency. And add to it the rage you feel towards the bully and a sense of self-rage for putting up with such behavior." These are hardly prime conditions for doing your best work–any work."

    [ http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199509/wh… ]

  16. This blog post started me thinking about Harper's behaviour — then I found an essay titled "When the Boss is a Bully" — here's an excerpt along with a link:

    "Bullies do a lot of damage in organizations. They make subordinates run scared. They put people in a protective mode, which interferes with the company's ability to generate innovation. They don't build in perpetuation of the organization, says Levinson. "It keeps you in a state of psychological emergency. And add to it the rage you feel towards the bully and a sense of self-rage for putting up with such behavior." These are hardly prime conditions for doing your best work–any work."

    [ http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199509/wh… ]

  17. I don't know much about Stephen Harper pre-politics other than what one can read from various sources. One thing I can surmise though is that he was a nerd.

    Politics is probably one of the few areas he gets to be the bully instead of the bullied.

  18. Et qui pour la partie français, alors? Guy A. Lepage?

  19. Et qui pour la partie français, alors? Guy A. Lepage?

    • N'est-il pas séparatiste ? Guy A a-t-il la moindre idée de ce qu intéresse ceux qui choisissent la fédération à la séparation ?

      Il faudrait trouver quelqu'un qui n'est pas connu comme étant séparatiste – mais dans la communauté artistique, ils se font rares. Vous en connaissez ?

      • Jean-René Dufort ou Mathieu Pichette

  20. Ball's in your court, Prime Minister.

  21. Ball's in your court, Prime Minister.

  22. I bloody well hope that snark is a joke as one dealing with Alzheimer's in the family.

  23. REversing this could lead to a Lib majority!

  24. Empty chair while Mercer asks questions of Iggy?

  25. Go Rick! Go Iggy!

    As to Harper, Doris Day is likely getting a chuckle!

  26. Empty chair while Mercer asks questions of Iggy?

  27. Go Rick! Go Iggy!

    As to Harper, Doris Day is likely getting a chuckle!

  28. Wouldn't that be great? Downside for both harper and Ignatieff: we'd all realize we'd rather have Rick as PM.

  29. Wouldn't that be great? Downside for both harper and Ignatieff: we'd all realize we'd rather have Rick as PM.

  30. What's to stop Rick Mercer from inviting others to play if Harper will not? Why not announce that, should the pm decide not to participate, that for the same donation to charity, Jack Layton can debate Ignatieff.

    I have a feeling harper would come around.

    Oh come on steve, we want to hear you answer some questions and debate someone in a one on one situation where you do not have baird to answer for you. And no sending Baird to the debate in your place.

  31. What's to stop Rick Mercer from inviting others to play if Harper will not? Why not announce that, should the pm decide not to participate, that for the same donation to charity, Jack Layton can debate Ignatieff.

    I have a feeling harper would come around.

    Oh come on steve, we want to hear you answer some questions and debate someone in a one on one situation where you do not have baird to answer for you. And no sending Baird to the debate in your place.

    • And no sending Baird to the debate in your place

      Would you settle for Dimitri Soudas and a press release announcing Stephen Harper won the debate?

      • Is that bailiff's warrant still in effect?

        If so, I think Dim Dimitri will take a pass

      • LOL!

      • Most emphatically no! Hilarious!

    • Maybe he will send Bev Oda to answer any questions. Or Not.

    • I can't believe the Layton is not all over this, saying that HE will debate Iggy if Harper won't.

      I'm sure that Iggy's inclination to such a thing would be identical to Harper's (too little to gain, lots to lose, and you make the other guy look like an equal), but it would be tough for him to back out now.

  32. Yes, please. No one wants to see Harper without a shirt on!

    (Not that we want to see Ignatieff with his shirt off, either, but at least it wouldn't scar us for life!)

    ;D

  33. And no sending Baird to the debate in your place

    Would you settle for Dimitri Soudas and a press release announcing Stephen Harper won the debate?

  34. Mr. Harper you are missing an opportunity to demonstrate your superiority to Mr. Ignatieff. You could prove that to be a winner you don't have to go to Harvard. Don't let us down Mr. Harper. Have that one on one debate. Stand up for Canada!

  35. Mr. Harper you are missing an opportunity to demonstrate your superiority to Mr. Ignatieff. You could prove that to be a winner you don't have to go to Harvard. Don't let us down Mr. Harper. Have that one on one debate. Stand up for Canada!

  36. And your problem with that is…?

  37. Is that bailiff's warrant still in effect?

    If so, I think Dim Dimitri will take a pass

  38. LOL!

  39. Yeah, no kidding. I seem to recall in the US Presidential race, that the candidates did appear on shows like the Tonight Show and Daily Show. Some people have a sense of humour in this country.

  40. Maybe he will send Bev Oda to answer any questions. Or Not.

  41. The Conservatives would be best not to ignore the influence Rick Mercer can have on a campaign. Remember the Doris Day gag that pretty much sunk the Canadian Alliance campaign in 2000?

  42. The Conservatives would be best not to ignore the influence Rick Mercer can have on a campaign. Remember the Doris Day gag that pretty much sunk the Canadian Alliance campaign in 2000?

    • It wasn't their greatest moment but other stuff hurt them too.

  43. Judging by almost every poll out there right now, Mr. Ignatieff is one of the most unpopular Liberal leaders in the party’s history, polling below even Dion’s personal approval ratings.

    Yet the small cabal of partisan commenters here and (sadly) a similar cabal in the media, appear to have attributed to Mr. Ignatieff near Superman like qualities.

    This cannot be healthy. Politically or emotionally.

  44. Judging by almost every poll out there right now, Mr. Ignatieff is one of the most unpopular Liberal leaders in the party’s history, polling below even Dion’s personal approval ratings.

    Yet the small cabal of partisan commenters here and (sadly) a similar cabal in the media, appear to have attributed to Mr. Ignatieff near Superman like qualities.

    This cannot be healthy. Politically or emotionally.

    • And yet it is difficult to comprehend how Iggy is not the better candidate than harper. Why the disconnect?

      • The effectiveness of propaganda?

  45. CBC comedians are setting Iggy's campaign agenda.

    Holy God in heaven this is funny! And the commenters here are saying Iggy can get a majority? I guess you haven't noticed that Layton has better leadership numbers than Iggy in every poll.

    Comedy gold, pure comedy gold! Keep it up Maclean's commenters, and kudos to the Maclean's bloggers for ginning them up. You can't make this stuff up, you really can't.

  46. CBC comedians are setting Iggy's campaign agenda.

    Holy God in heaven this is funny! And the commenters here are saying Iggy can get a majority? I guess you haven't noticed that Layton has better leadership numbers than Iggy in every poll.

    Comedy gold, pure comedy gold! Keep it up Maclean's commenters, and kudos to the Maclean's bloggers for ginning them up. You can't make this stuff up, you really can't.

    • I think you are grasping at straws if you think there are posters here saying Ignatieff will get a majority. In fact, I have yet to see any posts suggesting that. Also, I don't see how Ignatieff's leadership polls have any bearings on whether or not there is a one-on-one debate with Harper.

      In fact, the only thing that can be read into this whole issue is that Ignatieff called Harper's bluff on a one-on-one debate, and Harper backed down. I personally don't see the problem of having multiple debates, including an all party debate and a debate between the definite front-runners (this does happen in other countries, like Australia). I find it hard to believe that a leader wouldn't want maximize face time on national TV, not to mention have the opportunity to trump you opponent. This makes Harper backing down a bit curious. By backing away, it makes him look weak or afraid.

      Of course, you are a shill and using sound reasoning is probably beyond you.

  47. It wasn't their greatest moment but other stuff hurt them too.

  48. And yet it is difficult to comprehend how Iggy is not the better candidate than harper. Why the disconnect?

  49. I can't believe the Layton is not all over this, saying that HE will debate Iggy if Harper won't.

    I'm sure that Iggy's inclination to such a thing would be identical to Harper's (too little to gain, lots to lose, and you make the other guy look like an equal), but it would be tough for him to back out now.

  50. I think you are grasping at straws if you think there are posters here saying Ignatieff will get a majority. In fact, I have yet to see any posts suggesting that. Also, I don't see how Ignatieff's leadership polls have any bearings on whether or not there is a one-on-one debate with Harper.

    In fact, the only thing that can be read into this whole issue is that Ignatieff called Harper's bluff on a one-on-one debate, and Harper backed down. I personally don't see the problem of having multiple debates, including an all party debate and a debate between the definite front-runners (this does happen in other countries, like Australia). I find it hard to believe that a leader wouldn't want maximize face time on national TV, not to mention have the opportunity to trump you opponent. This makes Harper backing down a bit curious. By backing away, it makes him look weak or afraid.

    Of course, you are a shill and using sound reasoning is probably beyond you.

  51. N'est-il pas séparatiste ? Guy A a-t-il la moindre idée de ce qu intéresse ceux qui choisissent la fédération à la séparation ?

    Il faudrait trouver quelqu'un qui n'est pas connu comme étant séparatiste – mais dans la communauté artistique, ils se font rares. Vous en connaissez ?

  52. The effectiveness of propaganda?

  53. Most emphatically no! Hilarious!

  54. Get someone else to moderate. If Harper won't show Rick can 'represent' him.

  55. Get someone else to moderate. If Harper won't show Rick can 'represent' him.

  56. Jean-René Dufort ou Mathieu Pichette

  57. The other interesting thing about this is that Rick Mercer is so influential with young people — I hope this encourages youth to vote, and to perhaps pay more attention. Rick can be our Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert.

    Also, as Warren Kinsella suggests, I would like to see youth rally in chicken suits outside the PMs photo opps.

  58. The other interesting thing about this is that Rick Mercer is so influential with young people — I hope this encourages youth to vote, and to perhaps pay more attention. Rick can be our Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert.

    Also, as Warren Kinsella suggests, I would like to see youth rally in chicken suits outside the PMs photo opps.

    • I think we could do without the chicken suits. That campaign tactic went the way of the dodo back in the '90s. Just because it's been used in the West Wing doesn't mean it has any effectiveness.

  59. It wasn't really funny.

  60. Yes, it was a joke. As someone who took care of his father as he died of Alzheimer's I find the attacks on Ignatieff to be in especially poor taste.

    (I thought the misspelling of "disgusted" and the use of "Iffy" would be sufficient to let people know I was mocking the right wing attacks :)

  61. I think we could do without the chicken suits. That campaign tactic went the way of the dodo back in the '90s. Just because it's been used in the West Wing doesn't mean it has any effectiveness.

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