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‘This is a case of a prime minister who doesn’t believe the climate is an important issue’

Elizabeth May talks to Americans


 

Two weeks after the President of the United States, in the process of discussing the Keystone XL pipeline, says Canada “could potentially be doing more to mitigate carbon release,” Elizabeth May takes part in a conference call with American reporters to criticize the Harper government’s environmental policies. Politico notices.

“What I don’t think the U.S. and American audience sufficiently understands, because you have a vague sense of Canada as a nice, good country, is that the current administration under [Prime Minister] Stephen Harper is against climate action,” said Elizabeth May, a member of Parliament and leader of the Green Party of Canada. “This isn’t a case of a government that means well but accomplishes little. This is a case of a prime minister who doesn’t believe the climate is an important issue, and all of his policies reflect that.”

This possibly does not matter much—Marc Jaccard’s comments that Canada is unlikely to meet its GHG reduction targets might be more serious—but it probably doesn’t help the Harper government’s cause. Of course, Leona Aglukkaq could announce stringent new oil and gas regulations and rebut this argument.


 

‘This is a case of a prime minister who doesn’t believe the climate is an important issue’

  1. GHG emissions are down 5% under Stephen Harper despite record immigration and an economy that has grown 6 out of 7 years – they skyrocketed under her Liberal pals and under Obama.

    Harper signed the Copenhagen accord and has provided $1.2 billion in Fast Start financing to help developing countries with climate change.

    The Environment Canada website has been EXCEEDINGLY clear about the government’s commitment to fighting climate change since day 1 and lists chapter and verse the government’s efforts in this regard.

    It is unforgivably STUPID in 2013 to bitterly cling to the myth Harper’s government doesn’t care about climate change. Anybody who says otherwise should stick to Kardashians and Bachelorette as convo topics and leave politics to the grownups.

    Liz May’s act is wearing thing – she’s the most dishonest politician I’ve ever seen. It’s time for blatantly dishonest “journalists” like Wherry who credulously parrot her nonsense to be held to account.

    Aaron Wherry lies, and we have proof. Liz May lies, and we have proof. Both are a cancer on Canada.

    • ‘The Environment Canada website has been EXCEEDINGLY clear about the
      government’s commitment to fighting climate change since day 1 and lists
      chapter and verse the government’s efforts in this regard.’

      Gosh, and who writes Environment Canada’s website?

      • Evil secret agents from the PMO?

        • Heh….yeah, I’d say so.

      • “Gosh, and who writes Environment Canada’s website?”

        Gosh, let me take a stab at that: Bureaucrats?

        • Not hardly.

          • Good. Then I’m glad they are slashing the bureaucracy at EC because they obviously aren’t doing much of anything.

    • If you work in the PMO or for the CPC, do everyone a favour and identifiy yourself. There is a difference between signing accords and actually doing something. Peter Kent liked to claim that Canada was 50% of the way towards its Copenhagen target. What he didn’t mention is that the entire 50% was the result of provincial government actions, economic slowdown, and the revision of UNFCC rules regarding LULUCF emissions. Federal government contribution to target? Big fat 0. Bottom line, Harper government has talked a big game but has not delivered anything yet that impacts our emission trajectory prior to 2020. If you wan to talk cancers, look in the mirror. Start being part of the solution.

      • Exactly, its like the BC government trying to claim that their carbon tax is responsible for reduced emissions. The public is fully aware that emissions were falling in BC at least 2 years before the tax was brought in. An economic slowdown will reduce emissions far more effectively than some fruity carbon tax.

        • As it did in the United States. Signatories to nothing, but decreased emissions because of the economic downturn.

          • A missed opportunity for US politicians. If only they had signed something, anything, they could have taken credit for the reduced emissions. Oh well, better luck next time.

      • ” There is a difference between signing accords and actually doing something.”

        Precisely. Just like Chretien and the Kyoto Accord. Oh, wait ….

        And lest you confuse me with a staffer at the PMO, let me assure you that I am only here because Emily told me to get a new hobby after I had the most unpleasant task of having to point out a teeny tiny error in her thinking. Thanks for the suggestion, Emily!

      • Straight Talk wrote:
        “There is a difference between signing accords and actually doing something. ”

        Ok…..how well did the Liberals do with Kyoto?

    • “Aaron Wherry lies, and we have proof. Liz May lies, and we have proof.”

      Oh, just for kicks – let’s see the proof.

      • Proof is easy to find.

        If Lizzie may is talking…chances are she is saying something that is factually incorrect.

        If Aaron Wherry is writing…….same applies.

    • If “Lies Are Cancer”, I hope you have a healthy autoimmune system.

      • Fibs are ok, right?

        • …until someone comes along with an avatar named “Fibs Are Cancer” and a propensity to tell them.

    • “It is unforgivably STUPID in 2013 to bitterly cling to the myth Harper’s government doesn’t care about climate change. ”

      …don’t tell that to the many card-carrying Conservative Party members who believe climate change is a leftist hoax.

      • What? You mean it isn’t a leftist hoax? Ha ha funny joke, I almost fell for it.

      • ” …don’t tell that to the many card-carrying Conservative Party members who believe climate change is a leftist hoax.”

        Of course we don’t believe it is a leftist hoax. Climate change was around LONG before leftists existed.

      • That the climate changes is not a hoax.

        The hoax is in trying to convince people that humans are responsible for it, and that the only way to stop it is to empty our wallets and give our money to a bunch socialists so they can do what their ideology demands….without first asking the people if this is what they want….. through an election process.

    • By proof, do you mean the lab grade alcohol that fueled your rant?

    • “Liz May’s act is wearing thin – she’s the most dishonest politician I’ve ever seen.”

      True, but she’s making a healthy living at it. I could never do it, I respect her for that. As Xzibit once said ‘Never diss someones hustle’.

    • I think you are conveniently ignoring important issues compared to which, whether May or Wherry are lying are insignificant. 5% emission reduction is pathetic. And tar sands oil is a double whammy because of major emissions as a result of its processing, and the emissions that result when it is used. Then there are the local environmental issues in the area it is produced.

      I wonder where we’d be if the resources, financial & otherwise had been invested instead into environmentally friendly alternative energy technologies.

      • We’d be exactly where we are today.

      • BC KENMO:

        the question is where we would be if we didn’t have fossil fuels to drive industry.

        Hint: It would have hooves pulling a wooden plow, and about 60% of us would have to be farmers, or farm labourers just to grow enough food.

  2. Has Elizabeth May checked the explosion of US thermal coal exports to the rest of the world under Barack Obama?

    Has Elizabeth May checked on the uncontrolled natural gas flaring in the US Bakken oil fields of the Dakotas, which make the Dakota brighter as seen from from than the US eastern seaboard?

    Obama has done far more damage to the the global climate than Harper has done.

    Do not actual actions and results speak louder than words?

    • Sooo… no criticism of Harper is valid as long as there’s an American president with a worse record?

      • Well, previously we couldn’t do anything because China wasn’t. LOL

      • No you can criticize Harper all you want. I think that its time to start scrutinizing Obama’s record and stop letting him off the hook because of his skin colour. He’s getting away with murder and the public is turning a blind eye.

        As Obama himself once said to the media “My job is to be president; your job is to keep me humble. Frankly, I think I’m doing my job better.”

        And he’s correct.

        • I thought we were trying to sell the Keystone to him.

          • Its already been sold. The Keystone has been delivering oil to Illinois for more than 3 years now. That’s right, the Keystone is delivering oil to the US, and right to Obama’s backyard. For three years.

            However most greenies think their messiah Obama has saved the planet by stopping that filthy Canadian oil at the border. And Obama hasn’t said a word. Wow.

    • “Has Elizabeth May checked ….. Do not actual actions and results speak louder than words?”

      wiki – May’s permanent residence is in Sidney, British Columbia. Her family home is in Margaree Harbour, Cape Breton Island. On May 2, 2011, she became the first elected Green Party Member of Parliament in Canada ….

      —————-
      David Suzuki – Air Travel And Climate Change

      Q) How do greenhouse gas emissions from flying compare with emissions from other forms of transport, like driving?

      Compared to other modes of transport, such as driving or taking the train, travelling by air has a greater climate impact per passenger kilometre, even over longer distances (see graph below). It’s also the mode of freight transport that produces the most emissions.

      Q) What sorts of greenhouse gases do aircraft produce?

      Scientific studies have shown that these high-altitude emissions have a more harmful climate impact because they trigger a series of chemical reactions and atmospheric effects that have a net warming effect. The IPCC, for example, has estimated that the climate impact of aircraft is two to four times greater than the effect of their carbon dioxide emissions alone.

      http://www.davidsuzuki.org/issues/climate-change/science/climate-change-basics/air-travel-and-climate-change/

      • Oh well….if you take a plane anywhere, anytime…it cancels any effort you might make otherwise eh?

        System paralysis means the west is doomed.

        • No not at all. Governments everywhere have prepared a carbon credit card to be issued to their citizens when the time is right. The credit card will have a couple of tons of carbon on it. Every time you fly or buy gas you swipe the card, eventually the card will be emptied and then you buy more carbon credits. So you can fly all you want, just buy more credits to offset your filthy flying habit.

          The card will be managed by our trustworthy banks and will be issued to your social insurance number. I can’t wait for the day when Prime Minister May or Trudeau issues my children their first carbon credit card. What a glorious day for the motherland.

          • Have another coffee.

          • If you insist.

      • Another PD response – Suzuki travels by air, Gore has a big house etc.

        • So does Harper – so what? What a stupid argument.

      • It’s time for Suzuki to retire, he’s old. The question is who will replace him?

        • The question isn’t who will replace him….it is, who would actually miss him?

          Save our money…..any dude / dudette from the CBC will do. Ensure diversity however, so it will have to be a non-white, non-male replacement.

    • If you’ve got a point to make, by all means get to it.

      I’ll start you off:

      “So, therefore….”

      • So therefore, MacDonald’s provides the best value meal of all of the major burger chains. There.

    • Pavlov’s dog response – utter words Harper and environment – response Obama and coal. Works every time.

      • Pavlov? Did you say Pavlov?…..

    • Ok, Bud, you claim to have a PhD and yet you come with the same old talking points as you do above – for a supposedly smart person you should know people will notice this. Of if your from Harper’s message central, you think you’re fooling everybody.

      • There could be PhDs working in Harper’s message central. Could happen.

  3. I can’t believe the new environment minister will announce anything she didn’t when she was in health so don’t expect a sudden revival. in spite of” lies are cancer” comments, this government has committed itself to destroying the environmental protection act, the fisheries act and the navigable waters act, all of which were protecting the environment, so don’t expect anything just smoke and mirrors, soot and mirrors

  4. Canada is one of the few nations on the planet that would greatly benefit from climate change. It would behoove the PM and the whole nation to support inaction on climate change.

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