Time gentlemen

by Aaron Wherry

The Liberals have released figures documenting what they believe to be Mr. Harper’s abuse of power.

By their reckoning, 21 government bills have been debated over the first 66 days of this Parliament. Five of those bills (23.8%) have been subject to time allocation motions and time allocation motions have been passed a total of nine times. By comparison, they say, under the last Liberal majority government Parliament sat for 419 days and debated 153 government bills. Eight of those (5.2%) were subject to time allocation motions and a total of ten time allocation motions were passed.

The Liberals report that, per sitting day, the Harper government has used time allocation more than any government since time allocation was added to the standing orders in the mid-1960s. Furthermore, they say time allocation has been invoked after an average of three hours and 53 minutes of debate, while the last Liberal majority did so after an average of eight hours and 22 minutes.

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Time gentlemen

  1. Is there some kind of award or prize for this???

    • Yes, bad legislation.

  2. The Liberals are correct.

    Therefore, the Prime Minister should extend the sitting of the House through the Christmas holidays until all the legislation is thoroughly debated to the satisfaction of the Liberal Party of Canada.

    • I’m almost certain that the Liberals and NDP would be there with bells on if the Tories wanted to do that.

      That said, let’s not pretend that the Tories are basically rushing their entire legislative agenda through the House in less than six months with less than four hours of debate because Christmas is coming.  They’re doing it because legislating the things you campaigned on is BORING, and they want to spend most of their time in office legislating things that they DIDN’T campaign on…

      • Chretien is spicing things up today with his fund raising letter about now Harper has killed Kyoto, gun registry, etc., abortion, same-sex marriage next!!!!

        Drum roll – back to that ‘hidden agenda’, lol

        • Did you miss the bit where it was revealed that there is no hidden agenda? I think we now know pretty conclusively that the Tories in fact never had a hidden agenda waiting to be implemented once they got their majority. If they’d had a hidden agenda in their back pockets the whole time there wouldn’t be rumours that they’re going to prorogue Parliament right away once they get their entire agenda pushed through in less than a year, in order to give them time to WRITE UP their plans for the next four years.

          If the “hidden agenda” had really existed all these years, the Tories wouldn’t need time now to write it.

          Frankly, I kinda wish there WAS a “hidden agenda” somewhere, as I actually prefer the idea that the Tories know exactly what they’re going to do from 2012-2016, and have been cleverly hiding it from us, to the idea that the Tories have absolutely no idea what they’re going to do over that time period. In this context, I think I prefer “sinister” to “clueless”.

          • I’m not sure what the problem is with having no particular legislative agenda, once the platform’s been taken care of.

          • It’s not a problem, per se, taken out of context like that.

            If, however, the party in government has been running on basically that same agenda since time immemorial, has been careful to keep their election platforms paper thin (once they’re goaded into creating a platform at all that is) and has even delayed their own legislation on numerous occasions through ill-timed prorogations and the like, and then suddenly finds the need to pass their ENTIRE AGENDA in about 6 months flat with less than four hours of debate, right after they finally get their majority, it starts to look weird.

            A cynic would suggest that the government has deliberately kept certain issues from being resolved previously because they were vote-getters on the trail, and they were only interested in getting their majority, and much more concerned with politics than governance.  A conspiracy theorist would say that now that they have their majority, they’re in a rush to get all of the stuff that they ran on out of the way as fast as possible, so as to have that much more time to implement all of the policies that they DIDN’T run on.

            I’m not sure that any citizen should ever feel comfortable with any government that has a five year mandate, and apparently has a plan to implement basically every policy that they’ve laid before the voters in the first year, leaving them four years to do some other things (who knows what, I guess we’ll find out at some point, maybe…).

        • It’s  ‘reprehensible’  to make unfounded statements about our PM !!!
          How can Harper do his job in Parliament when untrue statements are being made to the public!!!!!! Breech of Privilege

          oh right, Conservatives are expected to take the heat

          • Desperate times…….I like where Chretien’s letter asks for a $5.00 donation to the liberal party at the end, lol!

  3. Liberals enjoy pulling random fractions out of their arses and saying whatever they do is just right while NDP and Cons are too hot, too cold. And it is not very persuasive.

    Always delightful to read about supposed abuses of power from Lib Party that brought us shawinigan handshake. 

    Chretien ~ Some people came my way… and I had to go, so if you’re in my way

    Goldilocks:
    “This porridge is too hot!” she exclaimed.
    So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl.
    “This porridge is too cold,” she said
    So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge.”
    Ahhh, this porridge is just right,” she said happily and she ate it all up.

  4. Liberals, 2011:

    “I can see relevancy from my house!!!”

  5. You know, it takes a lot of chutzpah for the Liberals to use their last majority as a basis to accuse this Conservative government of abuse of power.

    On the one hand, you have Conservatives using perfectly legitimate rules of Parliament to advance a legislative agenda that’s been on the table for many years now, and that got them a majority government only a few months ago.

    On the other hand, you have Liberals that used their last majority engaging in some of the largest scandals in Canadian political history.

    Again, a lot of chutzpah.

    I’ve said this before, and I guess I’ll have to keep saying it again and again — or at least until the Liberals finally fade away into oblivion. They have not learned one thing since being elected out of office by the Canadian people. Not one thing.

    • Yes, chutzpah…and don’t forget the gall, Dennis…don’t ever forget the gall.

      • I love it when people like you can’t rebut me on anything else. lol.

        • That’s OK, Dennis…you cling to that inference if it reinforces your delusions.

          • You’re more than welcome to rebut me on substance any time. Thanks.

  6. I wonder what kind of mischief the Cons will have to invent to fill up the rest of their mandate, having railroaded their pet projects through the mill in record time.

    I also wonder what will be left of traditional democratic process after they’ve established new precedents for abuse of power.

  7. The last Liberal government didn’t have an obstructionist Official Opposition, that was bent on holding up legislation, just because they can.

    Chretien forced closure on the SSM debate after only a few months.

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