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Tonight in Guergis


 

Ms. Guergis and Mr. Jaffer visited Belize in 2008. Ms. Guergis encouraged her cousin, a Simcoe politician, to consider a company connected to Mr. Gillani and Mr. Jaffer. Canadian Press investigates Ms. Guergis’ club-going days. The private investigator whose allegations led to Ms. Guergis’ exit from caucus has liabilities totalling $13-million. A friend says the PI is a “skillful” investigator. Mr. Gillani’s spokesman says Mr. Gillani did not boast of having pictures of Mr. Jaffer and Ms. Guergis partying with cocaine and prostitutes, nor does he possess any pictures of Mr. Jaffer and Ms. Guergis partying with cocaine and prostitutes. And Gilles Duceppe visits Edmonton and makes a joke about Mr. Jaffer.


 

Tonight in Guergis

  1. I love it! This is terrific. When do you think the movie will be coming out?

  2. This has gotten way out of hand by the media. Why in hell are they interviewing people about her past? It's like The Inquirer. Who cares about her dating days?

    Notice they don't seem concerned about who Jaffer dated years ago. Oh ya, he's a man. Being a ladies man is manly,

    Good grief

    • The backlash has been felt by Barrie's Municipal Council. They would like to point out that Guergis is not the MP for Barrie, but rather is from Angus (g absent on signs due to pranksters) just a few kms up the road.

      Accordingly, they have erected a sign reminding would-be investigative journalists that different laws apply there: http://www.flickr.com/photos/48662524@N02/4525838

    • I'm disgusted by it all. Reporters have gone as far as printing stories about her previous miscarriages. This woman has been violated in ways that boggle the mind. For the first time in I can't remember how long, I found myself in agreement with Rex Murphy last night on The National. It doesn't much matter anymore if Guergis is innocent of all accusations. Her life is ruined.

      Why anyone would want to get into politics after such a display is beyond me.

      • I'vebeen saying the same for days but a lot of the commenters on this site have been cheering on the witch hunt.

  3. $13 million in liabilities? Maybe the Tories hired him as a finance minister in waiting.

    • You are not up-to-date and are evidently having trouble reading a balance sheet. The liabilities relate to a wrongful dismissal suit filed by a disgruntled former employee.

      • Why bother, Wherry's regulars don't want facts, they just want to have their little con bashing gleeclub.

        • "Wherry's regulars…."

          I bet a survey of Wherry's commenters would put you in the top ten.

  4. $13 million in liabilities? The PI will probably turn out to be as crooked as a dog's hind leg.

    • Depends on the circumstances. I didn't find the connection between bankrupt and not credible to be as strong as many knee jerk reactions. Belize. Are GM executives in the same league?

    • Depends upon he circumstances. I don't link bankrupt = not credible as quickly as some with more knee jerk reactions. Are GM executives in the same league?

    • In 2009 121,800 Canadians and business' went bankrupt, and now are considered as crooked as a dog's hind leg

      But heh, for those who feel a wee bit guilty of cruelty to Helena,
      just pile on and tear the PI's life and career apart.
      That'll make yah all feel better about yourselves.

  5. Mr. Gillani's spokesman says Mr. Gillani did not boast of having pictures of Mr. Jaffer and Ms. Guergis partying with cocaine and prostitutes, nor does he possess any pictures of Mr. Jaffer and Ms. Guergis partying with cocaine and prostitutes.

    Not surprising. It would be self incriminating otherwise, and part of his alleged modus operandi.

    Had Guergis resigned ages ago when she was being publicly rebuked by current and former Conservative talking heads, a lot of this would have never come to light.

    In a different era, this whole affair would have provided lots of fodder for John Candy's Magnum PEI on SCTV, a private detective chasing his quarry through the scenic potato patches of Prince Edward Island. "Drop the Potato!"

  6. Ms. Guergis encouraged her cousin, a Simcoe politician, to consider a company connected to Mr. Gillani and Mr. Jaffer.

    Sounds like a 10 percenter.

    • A commenter on Kady's blog asks "Why does Wright Tech Systems have a Government of Canada logo on the bottom right hand side of its website?"

  7. This whole thing is spiralling way out of control. Didn't the PMO vet the PI Derek Snowdy before they went public with the "serious allegations" story? I'm thinking that this was just a way for the Harperites to get rid of a Cabinet Minister that was becoming a liability because of the behaviour of her and her former MP husband.

    Another question that should be asked is "How many other MPs of all Parties bring their spouses along on domestic and overseas junkets?" Fortunately, for most MPs, the faces of their spouses are not easily recognizable in promotional photos taken during these trips.

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/

    • It should be remembered that it was a Conservative lawyer who vetted PI Derek Snowdy and must have believed he had an air of credibility before passing the allegations onto the PMO. Taken separately, out of the blue, I doubt much would have happened – maybe Guergis would have been suspended while they were looked into. In the context of all the questionable activities surrounding her and Jaffer, and lack of forthrightness from ALL parties, the conclusion was foregone.

      Perhaps a lesson in damage control. At that stage, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

      • If the PI was willing to sign a affidavit, then I think the government would believe it was a credible allegation.

        Either way, once the media and the liberals change there narrative to, "maybe PM Harper acted to fast" you know the story has jumped the shark.

        the government is damned if they do and damned if they don't, the only question is which you want to be damned with.

        • Hey, even with cocaine and prostitutes, the Liberals passed on the story before the Conservatives picked it up.

          Cocaine and prostitutes…Maybe it's time for me to join a political party…

        • The thing is there were plenty of ways he could have let her go without prompting the "maybe he acted too fast" response. Just accepting her response and not making the big press conference splash about the RCMP & Ethics Commissioner is the first one that jumps to mind, for example. There certainly was enough already to suggest that maybe she should spend some time on the backbenches even without these allegations being added to it.

          In this case though he did act too fast by releasing the presence of allegations to the public without first having somebody vet whether or not they were credible.

          • "Just accepting her resignation," not "just accepting her response."

        • "If the PI was willing to sign a affidavit, then I think the government would believe it was a credible allegation."

          How can it be considered credible when the source of the PI's report was Gillani?

        • If the PI was willing to sign a affidavit, then I think the government would believe it was a credible allegation.

          You would think so, but the government seems to have a sliding scale on who is to be considered credible .

        • Exactly. The Liberals and Dippers demanded she be fired for months. Then when she was fired, they complain about it. They must think we're all too stupid to see how mindless that argument is.

    • "How many other MPs of all Parties bring their spouses along on domestic and overseas junkets?"

      Ruby Dhalla took her Momma with her to India, at taxpayers expense.

  8. Am I the only one who wishes there was an alternate universe where separatism was not an issue for Quebec, and Duceppe was a federalist MP? Say what you will – the man has charisma, personality, and a good sense of humour!

    • I disagree with SamDavies. Duceppe is like the Toronto Maple Leafs after they`ve been eliminated from the playoffs. There`s no pressure on them and they play like hell.
      Duceppe has the best gig in Ottawa: There`s no pressure on him to ever contribute to the governing process—to satisfy his voters he just has to show he`s being a pain in the a$$ to English Canada, and when he`s in TROC he can be a wisea$$ because nobody cares.
      Put him in a pressure situation like maybe running for a leadership of a provincal party and he looks like a lost little boy in a bad hairnet searching for the nearest ride back to Ottawa to his safe pension seat.

      • Well – I guess the true test would be to look at how he handled the referendum. I don't have anything more to add on that point, as I really do not know much about him (during that time).

        Fair enough – the BQ has an advantage, so Duceppe can speak freely outside of Quebec without any worry of hurting the ambitions of the party there. Nevertheless – It is refreshing to have a politician who isn't concerned with these types of logistics, and can therefore be more candid. I guess the true test would be how he handles things within Quebec, in order to maintain his support. Once again, I don't have a strong background of how this plays out on a day to day basis.

        I believe my longing is a direct result of the minority government stalemate, where no one is willing to say anything that hasn't been analyzed, calculated, etc. I'm sick of everything being about optics and talking points.

        • Agreed….especially your last paragraph.

  9. I agree with SamDavies. Mr. Duceppe seems to be the only politician working for his people. Granted he only ensures Quebec's interests are protected but at least he does his job. All our other politicians seem to be more interested in playing political games and looking after their personal interests than in looking after the interests of their constituents or even their country.

  10. Look, we told you there wasn't a Nigerian prince in your family history, but would you listen?

    Geez, get over the loss and move on…

  11. The sordid little details of the Geurgis-Jaffer affair are of no interest to me except as an example once again of the hypocracy of the holier-than-thou extreme right. What does interest me is what Harper's actions say about his judgement. When the PI took his story to the Liberals, they told him to get lost. But when he then went to Harper, who apparently accepted it without even bothering to check into the PI, Harper acted 'decisively' and expelled the former Minister from his caucus. It should trouble all Canadians that someone with his apparent lack of judgement is running this country, but most seem not to care, so it is the kind of government most of us deserve, and God help the rest of us.

  12. Yah, the media was doing all of the smearing: not

    "They are being called the Bonnie and Clyde of the Conservative Party," Liberal MP Marlene Jennings pantomimed.
    "They are young, Conservative and above the law … Is this what the Prime Minister meant a few months ago when he sang 'I get by with a little help from my friends, I get high with a little help from my friends'?"

    Read more:http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/story.ht

  13. I just want to thank Macleans for keeping us up to date with these convenient summaries.