Towards lasting power

by Aaron Wherry

The Prime Minister talks to our editor-in-chief.

What I want to do, of course, is really entrench, over time, a Conservative-majority coalition in the country. I probably—the more I’ve thought about it—I should probably stay away from the natural governing party terminology, because I think as soon as a party believes it’s the natural governing party it’s in a great deal of trouble. Since coming to office, we’ve grown steadily. We’ve grown from our base out. We haven’t tried to re-engineer the Conservative movement, we’ve built on it by bringing more people into it. We still have more work to do to be as representative of people as we’d like to be, but all the elements are there in terms of the coalition. I think, obviously, it has to be backed up with an agenda, and the agenda has to be successfully implemented, and the country has to buy into it and be happy with the results. So that’s the big thing we have to do, but I think in the end—given the outcomes of the election—we’re greatly helped not just by our own result but by the relative incoherence of the opposition as an alternative for government.




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Towards lasting power

  1. This is the mystifying part:

    “What I want to do, of course, is really entrench, over time, a Conservative-majority coalition in the country.”

    Surely Harper isn’t so politically naive that he believes Cons will be a permanent govt from here on in?

    Even Libs, who were govt for 60% or more of the 20th century, got tossed out occasionally.

    The Cons will be as well….and it doesn’t matter what the name is of the party that replaces them…they will be replaced, and nothing Harper does will prevent that.

    At least as long as we remain a democracy.

    • He could be hoping to remake Canadian politics in the image of that thriving democracy, Alberta.

      • LOL good point!  He might well figure he can remake Canada in Alberta’s image.  If so, he’s dreaming.

  2. But wait… aren’t coalitions evil incarnate? That’s what he was saying at elecion time! LOL!

  3. “We haven’t tried to re-engineer the Conservative movement, we’ve built on it by bringing more people into it.”

    “We haven’t tried to re-engineer the Conservative movement, we’ve built on it by not actually doing any of the things that we claim as conservative values. Oh, and through intimidation and attack ads targeting those who would oppose us.”

    Fixed that for you. Conservative “movement”. Sheesh.

    • Wow. Kind of inappropriate.

      • Do go on.

        • No need.

          • I guess not, since you’re only speaking to yourself.

            Also this guy: “it would be nice if we saw some ‘conservative’ governing. By that I mean – cut spending”

            Sounds like that guy and I agree, at least on what’s actually happening and it ain’t “conservative”.

          • Huh?

          • Haha! Genius – your new MO is to declare victory and scuttle off.

            That way you can say anything at all and never have to defend it! It’s as though you’re trying to extend your little bubble to smother other people too….

          • You are right about the genius part of your post – not the rest.

            Not everyone who is on here is retired – some of us have to work for a living.

          • You had time to come back for more silly snark. You also had time to give a detailed reply to somebody below. You could have used that time to explain your earlier comment.

            Why would you think I’m retired? I have a corporate job, a small business, a mortgage and multiple children.

  4. Surely Harper/Cons are looking to UK where Cons and Labour are major parties and Libs are minor. I assume Harper has dreams of turning Con Party of Canada into Canada’s natural governing party for twenty first century. 

    Depends on how NDP react over next few years – are dippers going to remain as loony as they are now or will they move more to middle? 

    Also depends on what Lib supporters do – will Libs stick with their party and try to rebuild or will they move to new party that better reflects their beliefs? 

    “The oldest and most successful political party in the world, “the natural party of government” as it sees itself, has rarely been further from power.”
    http://www.economist.com/research/articlesBySubject/displaystory.cfm?subjectid=483478&story_id=E1_GVGGDR

    • In the UK Lib-Dems are in govt with Tories, in a coalition….while Labour is the Opposition

      I doubt Libs are going to ‘move’ to any other party….there isn’t one.

  5. “We haven’t tried to re-engineer the Conservative movement, we’ve built on it by bringing more people into it.”

    Coyne: 

    Under the Conservatives, spending, which conservatives once promised to cut, has been growing at a rate of 8 per cent a year. The budget, which conservatives once aimed to balance, is now in deficit to the tune of $54-billion, with literally no end in sight. 

    Corporate subsidies, which conservatives once vowed to eliminate, continue to be doled out by the billions every year; much of the auto industry has been nationalized; the number of regional development agencies has increased by one. 

    “The Conservatives topped the polls in the May 2 election in part by winning over religious voters, particularly Protestants, but also Jews and longtime immigrants.

    The New Democratic Party came in second in part by appealing to those who have no religion, as well as by holding their own among Catholics and recent immigrants.”

    http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=4748583&sponsor=

    Orwell ~ As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents.

    • The auto industry hasn’t been nationalized

      The NDP is loaded with religious people, having been started by a minister

      Orwell was both a christian and a democratic socialist

  6. Yup – now it would be nice if we saw some ‘conservative’ governing. By that I mean – cut spending.

    • Sure thing…what would you be willing to give up?

      • Department of Justice Canada

        Governor General – Department

        House of Commons

        Human Resources and Skills Development of Canada

        Public Service Labour Relations Board

        Statistics Canada

        The Senate

        Treasury Board of Canada, Secretariat

        And of course, there is:

        Public Works and Government Services Canada

         

        I am sure that we could find quite a bit of stuff that most
        people wouldn’t mind being cut in here.

        • I don’t think one office and a dictator is what Canadians have in mind for our democracy.

          Perhaps you could give up drinking.

          • Make more sense.

            “I am sure that we could find quite a bit of stuff that most
            people wouldn’t mind being cut in here.”

            I said that there is surely a lot to cut in these areas – not that they should be eliminated completely.

            You’re ‘jumping to conclusions’ with zero basis for it.

          • Why am I not surprised that you wouldn’t cut the travelling costs of the prime minister’s stylist, Michelle Muntean. Seems to me that if the Duchess of Cambridge can do without, so could the PM. 

          • Well if you want to cut the HOC, the Senate and the GG….there isn’t much left but an office and a dictator.

          •  @OriginalEmily1:disqus – Emily – again – I never said to ‘cut them all’ – I said that cuts could be found in those areas. Quit adding what you think is there to my comments.

            Which one of us is drinking?

            @LoraineLamontagne:disqus – you are doing the same thing.  Who said that I wouldn’t cut the traveling costs of the PM’s stylist?

        • Wow.

          • Thanks. :)

          • Oh.  I thought you were saying to “cut them all” (completely).  My bad.  You are not as insane as I first feared.  I hope. :)

          • Thanks. :) (should have been thanks – I fixed it)

            No – not insane – I just feel that there are many efficiencies that can be found. Gov’t, by it’s very nature, wastes money.

        • No cuts in the PMO – yet costs have been exploding since PMSH occupation of it.  Why not?

          • Didn’t see it on the list. This was just a list of things to start looking into. Didn’t say that it was all that could be looked at. I am sure that there is much, much more.

        • So basically, to you the best form of government is none whatsoever.

          • You, as well, seem to think that you can read minds.

            I said that in these areas there is stuff that most people wouldn’t mind being cut. You extrapolate that out to me saying that I think that we should have no gov’t whatsoever.

            Amazing how some people can only understand what they want to understand.

          • When asked what parts of the government you could do without, you replied with a list that included the HoC, GG, and Senate, as well as the treasury. It’s not that I (and others here) tried to read your mind and failed. I just read your list. It seems you misread the question or failed to correctly explain your view (judging by your corrections below.) Of course your corrections above and below seem to extrapolate the views of the entire country based on your own opinions.

            I find it amazing that you think that your issues with the written language are somehow a weakness on the part of others.

          • @Alowishes2:disqus
            Emily did ask what I would be willing to give up. I answered with a list, and followed the list with:
            “I am sure that we could find quite a bit of stuff that most
            people wouldn’t mind being cut in here.”

            It’s pretty clear to me that you didn’t read the whole post. I would submit that someone would need to be reading selectively to equate ‘finding a bit of stuff to cut in here’ with obliterating the majority of the gov’t.

  7. Well of course this is his aim. Why wouldn’t it be?

    That said, it took an awfully long time to cash in on the weaknesses of the Liberal Party. Nearly a decade by my count.

    Ironically I think it would have been better for Liberals if the Conservatives had been stronger from the get-go. Languishing in a minority with no ability to take their time to recoup is likely what’s brought the LPC so low. They had to be election ready at a time when they needed to be rebuilding and it’s cost them big time.

    In any case, unless the NDP moves way further right, the CPC will stay in government for some time to come and the LPC will eventually recover. Socialists will never win government in this country.

    Canada is a centrist nation, and without a real alternative in the center to keep the government in line, the CPC will fester just as the LPC did.

  8. It would be more interesting if the PM were to interview Mr. Whyte.
    They could compare date books. Surely there must be one name
    of a right-wing sugar daddy that the other doesn’t have.

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