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When Michael Ignatieff’s hair was longer


 

The Liberals have released three new English clips: one on their family care program, one on the Liberal leader’s experience as a teacher and one on the Liberal leader’s experience as a journalist. There is also a French ad on the red door analogy.


 

When Michael Ignatieff’s hair was longer

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    • Your memory is failing. There was nobody else running. It was by acclamation.

      • Emily, it is your right to hold the Canadian voters for fools.

        Most everyone knows that at the time in 2008, the Liberal Party had worked themselves in a real mess.

        And by trying to climb out of the Liberal created mess, they decided to appointed a leader rather than let the party membership elect a Liberal leader.

        Ask Rae why he fought to the last minute to have the party membership select a leader rather than the Liberal Party elite. Ask Rae why he even, untill the last minute, suggested to have the full party membership involved when deciding on the new Party leader? Ask him. Don't be afraid to ask some real questions.

        • No, it isn't a right to hold Canadian voters for fools….Harper is unaware of that

          No one was running against Iggy…..he was elected by acclamation.

          All provided for in the Liberal party constitution….and an internal matter

          Canadians don't care if a name is drawn out of a hat…..they vote for the leader the party puts forth.

    • Heh. It is histrionics and desperate attempts to change the channel like this that lead me to conclude the CPC supporters are scared.

      • Do you ever answer questions being posed, Gayle?

        Do you ever consider the facts?

        You have nothing to offer but a anti-Harper sentiment.

        It's ringing real hollow by now.

        We'll see how hollow our federal Canadian parliament rings, when the separatists BQ party is given the balance of power over our federation. When Ignatieff is done with changing Canadian history, perhaps he will write a book about that, too. We could all then read in hindsight when we lost our Canadian heritage. But oh, what a great book it would be!!

        • Ha ha ha

          You want me to answer questions that have nothing to do with the subject? As if.

          Start your own blog and then post your silly little questions. The rest of us will continue to discuss the topic on this thread.

          That was a real nice try though.

          • The topic of the coalition has nothing to do with the topic under discussion?

            You mean to say that when Ignatieff's ad talks about a lack of order and human rights in other countries, it has nothing to do with how Canadians chose leadership?

            You mean, it is ok to report on other countries being in turmoil because they lack a proper understanding of democratic rights and here in Canada we should not care about party leaders being appointed by the party elites?

            Or Canadians should not worry about men who sign coalition ageements with separatist parties?

            I think perhaps Ignatieff should have stayed closer to Canada; he could have covered the Quiet Revolution episodes or the Meech Lake and Charlottetown agreements, and he could have guessed that what Quebec cannot achieve through the front door, they are now trying to grab through the back door.

            Are you keeping an eye on what Ignatieff is covering?

          • Yawn

          • Keep yawning, Canada!

        • Emily answered your questions. Yet you choose to ignore her answers and keep posting this drivel. Try to keep up; the dialogue is moving along and you're still in 2009.

          • Emily never answers questions. She merely ignores the issues. Emily is not very politically astute.

            And you have no understanding of history if you think the 2008 coalition signing has nothing to do with the future.

            Nowhere has it been written in our Canadian constitution that a separatist party should be given the balance of power over our Canadian federation, but in 2008 two federal parties decided to do just that: to give the balance of power over to a separatist party. Ignatieff did sign such an agreement and only refuted it once the Canadian public rose up in protest.

            Next time he may try again. But if the BQ has been given the balance of power once, there will be no going back. Once the BQ has tasted such power, they will then proceed to elect not 50 members but a maximum of 75 within future elections, thereby making a federal party majority all but impossible for the future.

            Open your eyes, and try to answer the real questions not being addressed in this country because Ignatieff is too busy explaining to us what he had seen taking place in other countries.

          • Emily has been elected to govt office twice..

            Now stop lying.

  2. Ohhhh….beauty-full!

  3. Ohhhh….beauty-full!

    • Is this a religion to you? A job? Both?

  4. Your memory is failing. There was nobody else running. It was by acclamation.

  5. Oh boy. Even before seeing the ads, but knowing what they were about, I thought to myself: uh oh, it's all about Iggy again. Then I saw the "teacher" ad, and I think it's worse than I imagined.

    He uses the word "I' at least 12 times in that ad alone. Wow!

    Indeed, it's always about Micheal, isn't it. Always has been. Always will be! lol

  6. Oh boy. Even before seeing the ads, but knowing what they were about, I thought to myself: uh oh, it's all about Iggy again. Then I saw the "teacher" ad, and I think it's worse than I imagined.

    He uses the word "I' at least 12 times in that ad alone. Wow!

    Indeed, it's always about Micheal, isn't it. Always has been. Always will be! lol

    • So when you have to talk to someone about a job, you refer to yourself as what?

      • I hand my prospective employer a resume that doesn't have one "I" in it, just like most professional communications don't.

        For the record, I'm not a proponent of always using a third person when obviously talking about oneself. But Iggy sure does like to talk about himself, doesn't he?

        It has always been about him, hasn't it.

        • That explains your frequent unemployment, and your work for Craig's list.

          • Why do you have to constantly engage in these personal smear attacks? Why isn't anybody allowed to criticize your precious Liberal agenda? Why can't you defend that agenda with honesty and sincerity? And why do the usual suspects applaud you for it? This is why we need an election, is it? So that the Harper haters can feel good about themselves? Unbelievable.

          • I have not read any criticisms from you on the liberal agenda.

            Just a lot of stuff and nonsense about Ignatieff referring to himself in the first person.

            Why do you want to be a victim Dennis? Do you just like feeling sorry for yourself?

          • Yeah he does….he's a victim of his own paranoia, and just lashes out at everybody

          • Why do you need this crap? Is the Liberal agenda that ugly?

          • No, but you are.

            Paranoia is never pretty.

          • Why am I not allowed to say anything against Liberals on any topic? Why do you applaud these smears against people who dare say anything against you or your agenda? And what kind of agenda is it that applauds these personal smears?

          • A better question would be why do you invent positions of others and then question them?

            Why do you totally ignore what people really say and then claim victimhood over something they are NOT saying?

            That was a real nice try though Dennis.

          • Dennis specializes in strawman arguments.

          • Really. What arguments have I ignored? I came on here to talk about the ad. Nola/Emily decided to attack me personally. You're great with that. This is the Liberal agenda nowadays, is it? This is why we needed this election? To make you bashers feel good about yourselves finally? Well, if you keep this up, you're not going to feel great for that much longer. Believe me.

          • "Well, if you keep this up, you're not going to feel great for that much longer. Believe me. "

            That's sounding a bit ominous Dennis, you may want to affirm that you did not intend that as a threat to anyone.

          • I thought it was pretty clear what I meant, which was that this nonsense from the opposition and its supporters will only lead to a tragically disappointing loss, and probably four more years of Harper. Comprendez?

          • You may have thought so, but a casual observer might legitimately think otherwise.

            As you are in the writing profession, surely you know that.

          • PS you may want to brush up on your French verb conjugation.

            Comprenez?

          • They learned it from their the Dems down south. Liberals are only tollerant when you agree, otherwise STFU.

          • Dennis_F. Did you just say ' Why do you have to constantly engage in these personal smear attacks'? Have you seen Harpers ads lately?

          • because your out of your league Dennis. the reason that resumes don't have "I" is because they are written in point form, thereby alleviating the need for pronouns. this is compounded by the fact that the pronoun is obvious and therefore unnecessary…if a person were to try to talk like this it sounds utterly ridiculous.

            if you'd like to critique the liberal platform go right ahead, but do it on a valid basis. your criticism is ridiculous, defensive and obnoxious, arising out of the distrust for a leader who is educated, intelligent and worldly. your response? count the number of personal pronouns he uses. i'm be willing to bet that he has a better grasp of standard use of English than you do.

            you want to criticise, go right ahead, just don't be so childish. find an issue and go to it. small minds like to talk about people, bigger ones talk about the issues.

    • We know you prefer ones that are all about Harper – our own Captain Courageous keeping us safe from all those scary things that go bump int he night.

      • Funny how the preferred tactic by some on here is not to address the points raised, but to immediately throw eggs at Harper. Do you really think you can win an election that way, or even justify forcing one in the first place?

        • Don't worry, Harper's got no problem hiding behind his RCMP, or barring that, Laureen.

          • You really hate him, don't you. That's why we need this election, right?

          • I really hate him. I hope other Canadians join me in my hatred and are motivated enough by their sheer hatred of the lying, loathsome toad to vote the ar$ehole out.

            I have never so viscerally hated a politician before in my life. Harper has won my hatred.

          • Come on, posters! Gimme a thumbs up if you also hate harper! In fact, reply to me and tell me what you hate most about harper. His cold personality? His lying? His contemptuous nature? His muzzling of the MPs we vote in to represent us? His gut? His hairystyle? The fact that he wears lip gloss and guy liner? His inability to compromise? His rudeness? His anti-democratic actions? His mud-slinging? His hypocricy?

          • His behaviour. The disgusting disrespect he shows for anyone who disagrees with him.

            I think the man pretends to be a Christian in order to win the so-con vote. I have never met a true Christian who is so vile in the way he treats others. When I read about how he sends his little back bencher minions into the House to mock Dion before QP started, that was enough for me. I think Canadians want to elect a Prime Minister, not a school yard bully.

          • It truly amazes me that you think Canadians would join you in hour hatred. Truly amazing.

          • Truly-really or just truly?

          • For me, it's always been the kittens. What kind of man eats kittens for breakfast!?!

          • Yeah and that's just on the days he's not really hungry; otherwise it's entire litters plus their mother cats.

            Do you think he uses catsup?

          • I don't hate the man, since I don't know the man. But I sure do hate the politician. Mind you, I think he's very good at what he does. But what he does is divide my country and my countrymen. We are a diverse country and it has been prudent, while acknowleging our diversity, to focus on that which unites us as a country when speaking of generalities. Harper's idea is to pit the West against the East, the rich against the poor, the English against the French, the educated against the ignorant, and the right against the left–all the time! I wonder why anyone would want to lead a country that is so fractured in so many ways, and especially to take pride in the fact that this is your legacy.

          • East against West is a complete falsity, or maybe you could ask the liberal member from Alberta? Maybe the Conservative member from Montreal or Newfoundland? Harper didn't start the East West fight, unless you've been out of the country for 26 years… there are reasons each party has success in one region and not another – usually this is credited to party history (see BQ formation, NEP, etc.)
            Educated vs. Ignorant is a pretty loaded accusation, considering scientific polls have never supported that assertion beyond a 5% split. Were it a 30% split that might matter, but the fact remains that LPC/CPC support remains fairly steady across all levels of education.

          • Thanks for those good reminders, Poker Face. But the fact that he hasn't been as successful as he maybe would like doesn't absolve him from the attempt.

          • True, absolution wasn't what I was going for there. Just because politician X or Y didn't start the fire doesn't mean he or she hasn't dumped the odd jerry can of fuel on it.

        • Given how much energy Harper has used at discrediting Ignatieff personally – it seems only fitting Ignatieff should respond to that.

          • Apparently Ignatieff is never supposed to say a word in his own defence, but the Cons are free to attack him on everything. Strange logic.

          • Oh, he says at least 12 words in his defence: "I" 12 times. lol

          • And amazingly enough, it's neither illegal nor immoral to do so.

            Or are you back into the Bolshie stuff again?

          • Like I said, Iggy could go in front of the camera and throw up, and you'd all love it, while bashing Harper while you're at it. Fine. It's a great ad. Iggy loves talking about himself. Good luck.

          • I'm guessing that if Iggy weren't involved in politics, you'd find these spots thoroughly uncontroversial. He's just telling stories.

            The impression that I get is that Iggy probably has a lot more real experience than Harper. I respect a guy who has been in warzones before more than a guy who's never left the country before becoming PM.

          • Actually, if Iggy wasn't running to be our prime minister, I'd wonder who this guy is who's always talking about himself so much. lol

            And how can Iggy be more experienced than Harper when it's the latter who has run a country for over five challenging years? It takes some leap of logic to suggest it's Iggy who's more qualified to be prime minister – some leap of logic alright.

      • Like carbon dioxide, and guns??

    • Ha ha ha

      So Harper spends millions of your donated money to villify Ignatieff personally, and then you get all huffy when Ignatieff releases his own ads to rehabilitate himself.

      No fear Dennis. Despite your desperate attempt to make Ignatieff look like something he is not, I suspect the LPC will continue to produce these ads, because they are doing exactly what you fear.

      • All I pointed out what how many times Iggy refers to himself in his own add. And this drives some of you to these kinds of non-responses, does it? Interesting.

        • I am sorry. I have trouble responding to you because I do not know what kind of ludicrous fantasy you are going to base your next question on.

          It would be really nice if you actually stuck to what people are saying instead of making other stuff up, but I cannot help you there. Clearly you think that you can ignore my response, falsely identify it as a "non-response" and then you do not have to actually address mypoint. I am not sure if that is because you are not smart enough to do so or it if it because you actually believe what you are saying.

          I don't really care which one it is. I am simply not going to be drawn into your weird little world.

    • Wait a sec… all the pre-election advertising conducted by the Conservatives focussed not on the Liberals, but on Ignatieff. Isn't there some logic in the Liberals developing advertising that attempts to counter that effect?

      • Or it just confirms the Conservatives' already established narrative, that it's all about Iggy.

        • I agree that Iggy's narcissistic. But, put yourself in the Liberal war room. How else would you go about trying to counter the 'it's all about Michael' campaign?

          • Well, first, Iggy didn't respond to the established Tory narrative. They thought the media did enough to discredit the attack ads, and they didn't. That in and of itself was a conceit that they have paid for dearly.

            However, since that's in the past, I wouldn't keep playing on Tory turf. Maybe they think they can win back soft NDP female voters. I don't know. But they also risk cementing general sentiment about the guy.

            But, if you have to directly counter the Tory narrative, then why not do it with a softer touch? Have Iggy talk in the background. Show the clips of U of T and Canada in his youth. Show international shots with Iggy saying how Canada was always in his heart, and how others appreciated him being Canadian overseas. That was a missed opportunity, at least in the teacher ad. Then show Iggy now within a Liberal team, bringing that international experience to Canada within a broader context.

            But I still don't think that's necessary. Use the debates and the daily events to prove Iggy isn't arrogant. Use the ads to focus on a better message than yourself. Just my two cents, since you asked.

          • Dennis, what alternative did the CONs have really? They HAD to make it all about Iggy. I will not start slinging mud, but as we have all heard, Harper does not have a lot in the way of impressive stories of his coming of age. He just doesn't.

            If Canadians were to look at Iggy and Harper side by side, where they've worked, what they've accomplished before politics, what they studied and what these say about the individuals…it would be the CONs worst nightmare. They had to establish these frightening narratives of elitism, conspiratorial nationalism and,…the best one, an egomaniac seeking the PM's office.

            and sadly, it has permeated so many brains out there, the ones that are subject to fear mongering and simplistic imagery like,…man sitting at a large burnished wooden desk, hand to temple, panelled room…THIS IS AN INTELLIGENT MAN!! hahahaah

      • Yes…they are trying to own Iggy's time away. It's certainly the best strategy to counter act a narrative that is critical of Iggy's time away.

        • Or you just confirm the already negative narrative. Simply responding to something isn't a good thing.

    • Dennis, I truly admire that you use your real name online, and even provide links to your professional life. Given that, why would make statements (about the use of I as unprofessional) that contradict your own web presence?

      • I addressed that specific point in a reply to Nola/Emily. I'm not a big advocate of using a third person narrative when it's obvious you're talking about yourself. I just find it to be a curious choice for a politician who's been accused by opponents, and with some success, of always making it about himself.

        • For someone who isn't blinded by partisanship, those clips tell one about what it means to inspire and teach others about human rights or what it means to be unexpectedly saved from a dangerous situation by a friendly soldier. Most people who aren't blinded by partisanship are moved by stories of compassion, courage, passion and commitment, whether it is the Canadian soldier, the bright students, or Ignatieff.

          For blind partisans, counting I's trumps all that because they actually get what they need to know from attack ads.

          • Then why is it that that post of yours could have been written by Iggy's PR specialist? lol Who are you trying to kid? All I said is that he used the word "I' at least 12 times in that ad. At least you're not disputing that!

    • But he hasn't sent out Christmas cards of himself admiring photographs of himself yet…

      Or produce a calendar of Himself with pictures of Himself for every month except May, which is, of course, reserved for the Queen.

      And thank goodness, he doesn't try to get applauds for second-rate singing and second-rate piano playing.

    • Harper constantly harps about Ignatieff being away from Canada. This ad shows the experiences Ignatieff has had, which give him a perspective that will serve him well as PM. Unlike Harper's narrow perspective from his "Alliance" past.

  7. So when you have to talk to someone about a job, you refer to yourself as what?

  8. Is this a religion to you? A job? Both?

  9. These are great ads. Instead of running from his past experience, as the Conservatives have long wanted him to do, Ignatieff and the Liberals are doing the right thing by running towards it, explaining it and embracing it as the strengths they are in a leader. Pitch perfect, in my opinion.

    I'd love to see Harper's version. "I studied economics, but never worked as an economist. My only private sector experience was a mail room job my dad snagged me. Then, tiring of having to earn my keep and rise according to merit, I started working for politicians in the backroom. Eventually, I became an MP, which was great, but when my leader didn't do everything I wanted, I quit in protest. Luckily for us all, remained in Ottawa, working for a lobby group for years until I merged two political parties. Vote for me, or we'll be in serious trouble!"

  10. We know you prefer ones that are all about Harper – our own Captain Courageous keeping us safe from all those scary things that go bump int he night.

  11. These are great ads. Instead of running from his past experience, as the Conservatives have long wanted him to do, Ignatieff and the Liberals are doing the right thing by running towards it, explaining it and embracing it as the strengths they are in a leader. Pitch perfect, in my opinion.

    I'd love to see Harper's version. "I studied economics, but never worked as an economist. My only private sector experience was a mail room job my dad snagged me. Then, tiring of having to earn my keep and rise according to merit, I started working for politicians in the backroom. Eventually, I became an MP, which was great, but when my leader didn't do everything I wanted, I quit in protest. Luckily for us all, remained in Ottawa, working for a lobby group for years until I merged two political parties. Vote for me, or we'll be in serious trouble!"

    • I agree. Harper never talks about himself, because a) there's not much he can say, b) he doesn't believe in actually applying for the job and c) he's re-branded the entire govt with his name.

      As in 'vote for the Harper govt, or it's Armageddon'.

    • Sometimes I get the impressions that Ignatieff could go and throw up in front of the camera, and some of you would absolutely adore him for it, while finding some way to bash Harper in the process. lol

      • Well you get a lot of strange impressions, so that's not unusual.

      • Well, I admired Harper when he admitted he was always ashamed at not having served in the Canadian Forces.

        • a) I don't recall that. Do you have a link?

          b) Yes, it's always about bashing Harper and feeling good about it, isn't it. That's what this election is about, is it?

          • Where did I bash Harper? You Conbots are so programmed to act like victims, you take compliments for attack. Get over yourselves.

          • By suggesting he said he's ashamed of himself for not serving in the military. This makes you happy, does it? lol. You bashers!

          • No, I admired his willingness to admit his regret. Not everyone does that.

          • It didn't sound like a very flattering remark on your part. You still haven't posted the link I asked for. And You went on to accuse me of being a "Conbot." Again, you seem more intent on resenting political opponents than you do anything else. This is the kind of agenda that justifies our fourth $300 million election in seven years, is it?

          • "This is the kind of agenda that justifies our fourth $300 million election in seven years, is it?"

            If Stephen Harper was serious about avoid an election, he would laid out have put his cost-saving measures in his budget projections rather than save it as an election plank. If he was actually honest with us, he might actually get a his majority.
            http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/budg

          • Why? Are you saying the opposition would have supported him even if he did? I read the rhetoric here from the opposition supporters. We're having this election because they love hating him.

          • We could play hypotheticals all day, but regardless the opposition parties (other than perhaps the liberals) made it clear what they wanted to see in the conservative budget to gain their support. Harper has never shown a bipartisan streak in his entire time as Prime Minister.

          • Then why has his minority government been the longest serving in Canadian history? Like I said, give it a rest.

          • Haha, it wasn't by being bipartisan!

          • Do you even know what the term means? He always had support from other parties to support his agenda. And he didn't need an unelected coalition to do it, either!

      • I just know it would be more honourable and democratic vomit than harper could ever dream of.

        • If Harper vomited he would blame it on someone else. That's the way he rolls.

      • Ignatieff's vomit would at least be rational, well-thought and probably full of intelligent, cosmopolitan European food. Harper's throw-up would be petulant, take-out detritous.

        Happy now, Dennis?

      • Duh…Ya

    • But at least Mr.Harper has a real democratic mindset. He puts his money where his mouth is.

      Mr.Harper was not afraid to run in the merged party leadership election, and was chosen by the party membership to lead the party.

      So much cannot be said for Mr.Ignatieff. He in fact chose to be appointed leader by the Liberal Pary elites.

      You had a choice, Mr.Ignatieff. You could have shown what democracy is really all about but you chose to take the side of the Libeal elites.

      • Yes, Harper is so democratic he keeps shutting down Parliament or refusing to hand over documents.

        And you've already been answered about Ignatieff running unopposed for the leadership, so don't repeat the lie.

        • The Liberals would like to hold Minister Oda in contempt?

          What about holding Ignatieff in contempt of democracy when he signed a 2008 coalition document which involved a separatist party, a signed document he now claims never existed?

          Mr.Ignatieff so readily accuses others of circumventing the truth, but here is the real truth:

          In 2008, Mr.Ignatieff DID sign an agreement to form a coalition government in cooperation with the separatist party the BQ. Why does Mr.Ignatieff now deny such agreement ever existed?

          And does Mr.Ignatieff, as a professor of history, really not understand that if the BQ would get the opportunity to hold the balance of power over our Canadian federal parliament, that our Canadian federation would be altered forever? Does Mr.Ignatieff not understand that had such coalition government been put in place with a formal agreement with the BQ signed, the BQ would have been given immense power over our Canadian federation?

          Is he willing to do that for real? For the sake of Canada, I'm hoping Mr.Ignatieff understands as much about the future as he does about the past.

          • No dear, the 'Harper govt' was found in contempt of Parliament as the whole world knows.

            Ignatieff refuted any coalition right after he became leader….so give it a rest

            And stop looking for 'evil separatists' under your bed. The BQ was never part of any coalition.

            Yes, Ignatieff understands about the future….it's why he's promoting education so heavily

          • Emily says: "Ignatieff refuted any coalition right after he became leader….so give it a rest "

            So, you are saying there was a coalition at one time or another? why, yes, we all know there was!!

            Mr.Ignatieff signed onto it and only refuted it once he found out that Canadians weren't in favour of giving the BQ the balance of power.

            The Liberal Party knew very well at the time that they had made a complete mess of the Canadian system, and in order to set things right, they decided to appoint Ignatieff in a hurry, because his principled stand could be turned on a dime: he signed onto an agreement, and then he refuted the agreement.

            Ignatieff talks about democratic principles and does the opposite: he choses to be appointed leader.

            Ignatieff talks about democratic principles and does the opposite: he signs and he then says his signature meant nothing.

            What a leader! What a democracy! What principles????

            Promoting education? I'd say; it would be extremely educational for Canadians to understand what games are being played by Ignatieff, Layton and Duceppe. The three men would rather have the wool pulled over our Canadian eyes by being anti Harper so that the BQ could be handed the balance of power over our federation.

            I'm so glad I've always learned to read the writings on the wall.

          • And repeating lies is something you've NEVER learned.

          • What is this Francine – sweating with the oldies? Between che, t Dennis and you I'm calling the Cons rattled.

          • The only contempt for democracy shown during the 2008 coalition drive was Stephen Harper's lying to the public about it not being a democratic option. In a parliamentary democracy, the majority of elected mps from any party/parties have the opportunity to form government if they can convince the GG that they have the best chance of commanding the confidence of the House. That's democracy. Democracy is not when the leader of a party elected with a minority mandate — because it's been made clear to Harper twice now…and soon to be three times…that Canadian's do not want him having a majority — insists that he has the right to govern the way he wants to come hell or high water.

        • I suspect she is just trying to hijack the thread. It is only two weeks in and she is already getting desperate.

          • Yes, I figure all Cons will be increasingly frantic in the 3 weeks yet to go. LOL

      • When anyone says that Harper has a "real democratic" mind set, is an insult to any Canadian who has half a brain.

        1: Harper's Conservative government is the first in history to be held in contempt of Parliament.

        2: Ask Joanna MacDonald (21-year-old environmental science student), Awish Aslam (political-science) etc… about democratic mindsets. There source of apprehension; Facebook! Then have the RCMP do the dirty work of telling them to buggar off.

        As you know, the list gets longer…

        If you would stick to the facts and relevant information, maybe you wouldn't look so ( fill in the blank).

        Also, there's a free dictionary / spell-check in most browsers, use it!

    • That sounds great except for one thing. Iggy's version goes something like this. I was born rich. My daddy paid for everything for me and sent me to nice schools, where I studied hard and sucked up to all the right people and eventually i just stayed in school. Never lived in the real world with real people. I have not got a clue what it means to flip burgers……….except for the ones I flip for all your hard working Canadian on the BBQ rounds trying to convince you I am a patriot who understands your plight.
      You sure know your facts.

  12. Funny how the preferred tactic by some on here is not to address the points raised, but to immediately throw eggs at Harper. Do you really think you can win an election that way, or even justify forcing one in the first place?

  13. I hand my prospective employer a resume that doesn't have one "I" in it, just like most professional communications don't.

    For the record, I'm not a proponent of always using a third person when obviously talking about oneself. But Iggy sure does like to talk about himself, doesn't he?

    It has always been about him, hasn't it.

  14. I agree. Harper never talks about himself, because a) there's not much he can say, b) he doesn't believe in actually applying for the job and c) he's re-branded the entire govt with his name.

    As in 'vote for the Harper govt, or it's Armageddon'.

  15. Sometimes I get the impressions that Ignatieff could go and throw up in front of the camera, and some of you would absolutely adore him for it, while finding some way to bash Harper in the process. lol

  16. Well you get a lot of strange impressions, so that's not unusual.

  17. Well, I admired Harper when he admitted he was always ashamed at not having served in the Canadian Forces.

  18. But at least Mr.Harper has a real democratic mindset. He puts his money where his mouth is.

    Mr.Harper was not afraid to run in the merged party leadership election, and was chosen by the party membership to lead the party.

    So much cannot be said for Mr.Ignatieff. He in fact chose to be appointed leader by the Liberal Pary elites.

    You had a choice, Mr.Ignatieff. You could have shown what democracy is really all about but you chose to take the side of the Libeal elites.

  19. Yes, Harper is so democratic he keeps shutting down Parliament or refusing to hand over documents.

    And you've already been answered about Ignatieff running unopposed for the leadership, so don't repeat the lie.

  20. Thanks for showing up with your usual insults and nonsense. The Liberal vision!

  21. Emily, it is your right to hold the Canadian voters for fools.

    Most everyone knows that at the time in 2008, the Liberal Party had worked themselves in a real mess.

    And by trying to climb out of the Liberal created mess, they decided to appointed a leader rather than let the party membership elect a Liberal leader.

    Ask Rae why he fought to the last minute to have the party membership select a leader rather than the Liberal Party elite. Ask Rae why he even, untill the last minute, suggested to have the full party membership involved when deciding on the new Party leader? Ask him. Don't be afraid to ask some real questions.

  22. a) I don't recall that. Do you have a link?

    b) Yes, it's always about bashing Harper and feeling good about it, isn't it. That's what this election is about, is it?

  23. Another strange impression of yours.

  24. Another strange impression of yours.

  25. No, it isn't a right to hold Canadian voters for fools….Harper is unaware of that

    No one was running against Iggy…..he was elected by acclamation.

    All provided for in the Liberal party constitution….and an internal matter

    Canadians don't care if a name is drawn out of a hat…..they vote for the leader the party puts forth.

  26. Where did I bash Harper? You Conbots are so programmed to act like victims, you take compliments for attack. Get over yourselves.

  27. Don't worry, Harper's got no problem hiding behind his RCMP, or barring that, Laureen.

  28. The Liberals would like to hold Minister Oda in contempt?

    What about holding Ignatieff in contempt of democracy when he signed a 2008 coalition document which involved a separatist party, a signed document he now claims never existed?

    Mr.Ignatieff so readily accuses others of circumventing the truth, but here is the real truth:

    In 2008, Mr.Ignatieff DID sign an agreement to form a coalition government in cooperation with the separatist party the BQ. Why does Mr.Ignatieff now deny such agreement ever existed?

    And does Mr.Ignatieff, as a professor of history, really not understand that if the BQ would get the opportunity to hold the balance of power over our Canadian federal parliament, that our Canadian federation would be altered forever? Does Mr.Ignatieff not understand that had such coalition government been put in place with a formal agreement with the BQ signed, the BQ would have been given immense power over our Canadian federation?

    Is he willing to do that for real? For the sake of Canada, I'm hoping Mr.Ignatieff understands as much about the future as he does about the past.

  29. By suggesting he said he's ashamed of himself for not serving in the military. This makes you happy, does it? lol. You bashers!

  30. That explains your frequent unemployment, and your work for Craig's list.

  31. Heh. It is histrionics and desperate attempts to change the channel like this that lead me to conclude the CPC supporters are scared.

  32. You really hate him, don't you. That's why we need this election, right?

  33. Ha ha ha

    So Harper spends millions of your donated money to villify Ignatieff personally, and then you get all huffy when Ignatieff releases his own ads to rehabilitate himself.

    No fear Dennis. Despite your desperate attempt to make Ignatieff look like something he is not, I suspect the LPC will continue to produce these ads, because they are doing exactly what you fear.

  34. No dear, the 'Harper govt' was found in contempt of Parliament as the whole world knows.

    Ignatieff refuted any coalition right after he became leader….so give it a rest

    And stop looking for 'evil separatists' under your bed. The BQ was never part of any coalition.

    Yes, Ignatieff understands about the future….it's why he's promoting education so heavily

  35. These ads are really good. They need to release the French one in English and get it on TV.

  36. Do you ever answer questions being posed, Gayle?

    Do you ever consider the facts?

    You have nothing to offer but a anti-Harper sentiment.

    It's ringing real hollow by now.

    We'll see how hollow our federal Canadian parliament rings, when the separatists BQ party is given the balance of power over our federation. When Ignatieff is done with changing Canadian history, perhaps he will write a book about that, too. We could all then read in hindsight when we lost our Canadian heritage. But oh, what a great book it would be!!

  37. These ads are really good. They need to release the French one in English and get it on TV.

  38. I really hate him. I hope other Canadians join me in my hatred and are motivated enough by their sheer hatred of the lying, loathsome toad to vote the ar$ehole out.

    I have never so viscerally hated a politician before in my life. Harper has won my hatred.

  39. I suspect she is just trying to hijack the thread. It is only two weeks in and she is already getting desperate.

  40. Come on, posters! Gimme a thumbs up if you also hate harper! In fact, reply to me and tell me what you hate most about harper. His cold personality? His lying? His contemptuous nature? His muzzling of the MPs we vote in to represent us? His gut? His hairystyle? The fact that he wears lip gloss and guy liner? His inability to compromise? His rudeness? His anti-democratic actions? His mud-slinging? His hypocricy?

  41. Interesting experiences.

    I'd like to see a clip of Harper describing what he believed in and/or tried to achieve in his non-political experience, such as at the National Citizens Coalition. I hear Harper made some changes to that group, but I get the feeling he doesn't want Canadians to know much about what his true motivations were or are. Such clips are selected for what the leader wants you to know about, but, even in that selection, they tell you more about the person. Talking about one's experiences and what they meant beats a "courageous warrior" or "sweet sweater man" clip any day, as far as I'm concerned.

  42. No, I admired his willingness to admit his regret. Not everyone does that.

  43. Interesting experiences.

    I'd like to see a clip of Harper describing what he believed in and/or tried to achieve in his non-political experience, such as at the National Citizens Coalition. I hear Harper made some changes to that group, but I get the feeling he doesn't want Canadians to know much about what his true motivations were or are. Such clips are selected for what the leader wants you to know about, but, even in that selection, they tell you more about the person. Talking about one's experiences and what they meant beats a "courageous warrior" or "sweet sweater man" clip any day, as far as I'm concerned.

    • Well here's one thing Harp said at the time:

      “It's past time the feds scrapped the Canada Health Act.” (Stephen Harper, then Vice-President of the National Citizens Coalition, 1997)

      • Don't worry, Emily: once the BQ will hold the balance of power, it will be the province of Quebec dictating to the rest of the provinces how the "Canadian" Health Act should be enforced.

        All the provinces are looking forward to such negotiations. They can't wait!

  44. Ha ha ha

    You want me to answer questions that have nothing to do with the subject? As if.

    Start your own blog and then post your silly little questions. The rest of us will continue to discuss the topic on this thread.

    That was a real nice try though.

  45. His behaviour. The disgusting disrespect he shows for anyone who disagrees with him.

    I think the man pretends to be a Christian in order to win the so-con vote. I have never met a true Christian who is so vile in the way he treats others. When I read about how he sends his little back bencher minions into the House to mock Dion before QP started, that was enough for me. I think Canadians want to elect a Prime Minister, not a school yard bully.

  46. Emily says: "Ignatieff refuted any coalition right after he became leader….so give it a rest "

    So, you are saying there was a coalition at one time or another? why, yes, we all know there was!!

    Mr.Ignatieff signed onto it and only refuted it once he found out that Canadians weren't in favour of giving the BQ the balance of power.

    The Liberal Party knew very well at the time that they had made a complete mess of the Canadian system, and in order to set things right, they decided to appoint Ignatieff in a hurry, because his principled stand could be turned on a dime: he signed onto an agreement, and then he refuted the agreement.

    Ignatieff talks about democratic principles and does the opposite: he choses to be appointed leader.

    Ignatieff talks about democratic principles and does the opposite: he signs and he then says his signature meant nothing.

    What a leader! What a democracy! What principles????

    Promoting education? I'd say; it would be extremely educational for Canadians to understand what games are being played by Ignatieff, Layton and Duceppe. The three men would rather have the wool pulled over our Canadian eyes by being anti Harper so that the BQ could be handed the balance of power over our federation.

    I'm so glad I've always learned to read the writings on the wall.

  47. Why do you have to constantly engage in these personal smear attacks? Why isn't anybody allowed to criticize your precious Liberal agenda? Why can't you defend that agenda with honesty and sincerity? And why do the usual suspects applaud you for it? This is why we need an election, is it? So that the Harper haters can feel good about themselves? Unbelievable.

  48. It truly amazes me that you think Canadians would join you in hour hatred. Truly amazing.

  49. And repeating lies is something you've NEVER learned.

  50. Yes, I figure all Cons will be increasingly frantic in the 3 weeks yet to go. LOL

  51. I have not read any criticisms from you on the liberal agenda.

    Just a lot of stuff and nonsense about Ignatieff referring to himself in the first person.

    Why do you want to be a victim Dennis? Do you just like feeling sorry for yourself?

  52. Well here's one thing Harp said at the time:

    “It's past time the feds scrapped the Canada Health Act.” (Stephen Harper, then Vice-President of the National Citizens Coalition, 1997)

  53. The topic of the coalition has nothing to do with the topic under discussion?

    You mean to say that when Ignatieff's ad talks about a lack of order and human rights in other countries, it has nothing to do with how Canadians chose leadership?

    You mean, it is ok to report on other countries being in turmoil because they lack a proper understanding of democratic rights and here in Canada we should not care about party leaders being appointed by the party elites?

    Or Canadians should not worry about men who sign coalition ageements with separatist parties?

    I think perhaps Ignatieff should have stayed closer to Canada; he could have covered the Quiet Revolution episodes or the Meech Lake and Charlottetown agreements, and he could have guessed that what Quebec cannot achieve through the front door, they are now trying to grab through the back door.

    Are you keeping an eye on what Ignatieff is covering?

  54. Given how much energy Harper has used at discrediting Ignatieff personally – it seems only fitting Ignatieff should respond to that.

  55. Yeah he does….he's a victim of his own paranoia, and just lashes out at everybody

  56. Wait a sec… all the pre-election advertising conducted by the Conservatives focussed not on the Liberals, but on Ignatieff. Isn't there some logic in the Liberals developing advertising that attempts to counter that effect?

  57. Apparently Ignatieff is never supposed to say a word in his own defence, but the Cons are free to attack him on everything. Strange logic.

  58. Emily answered your questions. Yet you choose to ignore her answers and keep posting this drivel. Try to keep up; the dialogue is moving along and you're still in 2009.

  59. It didn't sound like a very flattering remark on your part. You still haven't posted the link I asked for. And You went on to accuse me of being a "Conbot." Again, you seem more intent on resenting political opponents than you do anything else. This is the kind of agenda that justifies our fourth $300 million election in seven years, is it?

  60. Yawn

  61. I think it is great that Ignatieff worked as a correspondent for the BBC and CBC and taught at Harvard—I am sure he did other real interesting things in his life, but I am a voter and this election is about the leader of the country not the president of the local Rotary Club.

    Some questions to ponder before deciding how to vote:
    If Iggy uses an Alliance with the NDP and Bloc to sieze power, what will be the role of the West in this government.
    How deep into debt will Iggy drive us in his efforts to keep the NDP and Bloc on side.
    If there is a PQ government in Quebec, and there is another referendum, what will be the role of a Federal Liberal government that depends on a separatist Party for survival.
    These are just a few things to ponder—-there are several more I am sure like cabinet make-up, lack of confidence from the global markets to an unstable Canadian situation, etc.—-all of them more useful then pondering over those interesting jobs a middle-aged Iggy had twenty years ago.

  62. Why am I not allowed to say anything against Liberals on any topic? Why do you applaud these smears against people who dare say anything against you or your agenda? And what kind of agenda is it that applauds these personal smears?

  63. Why do you need this crap? Is the Liberal agenda that ugly?

  64. I think it is great that Ignatieff worked as a correspondent for the BBC and CBC and taught at Harvard—I am sure he did other real interesting things in his life, but I am a voter and this election is about the leader of the country not the president of the local Rotary Club.

    Some questions to ponder before deciding how to vote:
    If Iggy uses an Alliance with the NDP and Bloc to sieze power, what will be the role of the West in this government.
    How deep into debt will Iggy drive us in his efforts to keep the NDP and Bloc on side.
    If there is a PQ government in Quebec, and there is another referendum, what will be the role of a Federal Liberal government that depends on a separatist Party for survival.
    These are just a few things to ponder—-there are several more I am sure like cabinet make-up, lack of confidence from the global markets to an unstable Canadian situation, etc.—-all of them more useful then pondering over those interesting jobs a middle-aged Iggy had twenty years ago.

    • I would have guessed that you don't actually want to know anything more before you decide to vote.

      • No, just the usual Con patter….nothing about the actual election…..that's Blue.

    • These ads seem to follow a pattern evident recently in the Liberal Party.
      They are the Party of the past—it is all about nostalgia—-from their leader who was supposed to be the new Trudeau, their obsession with the fact they called themselves the natural governing party, Their economic platform that Coyne called the Back to the Sevenyies Platform, and now these ads that celebrate the wanderings of their leader 20-30 years ago.

      Something else to ponder—Which Party is living in the past and which Party is preparing for the future—-Hey Harper has even promised tax breaks and new spending 3 and 4 years down the road.

      • I don't agree. I think the values these clips speak to – human rights, education as using your knowledge and experience to inspire others, the smarts of Canadian soldiers in protecting others — these values are timeless.

        I was struck listening to one of Ignatieff's stump speeches and the 45 minutes of so of questions and answers which followed, about how much of it focussed on values. In the end, politicians will make promises, some of which they will be unable to keep even if they really want to because circumstances will change or prevent that, but if a politician lets you get to know who they really are and what values inspire their passion and commitment, to me, that is what really matters.

        Perhaps values seem out of date to you in this age where all that seems to matter is political gamesmanship and soundbites, but not everyone feels that way.

        • catherine: Here is the problem with values.

          When you hear someone go on and on about their values, there is a good chance you are not getting the real story about them. You are getting what they want you to hear—-it is usually not genuine.
          When I make a judgement about someone/s character, I don/t listen to what they say as much as watch what they do especially with family and friends.

          So when you hear a politician go on about values, that is probably a good time to bring out the Bull Meter.

          • It is not going on about their values, it is talking about values and things that matter. I learn a lot about a person listening to them speak about values, but it certainly isn't due to them saying "I value this" or "I am that".

            As to bull, it is surprising how gullible some people can be, believing images only created in ads.

    • "the election is about the leader of the country"

      That's pretty impressive considering no one can do that. These people are running to be the one who leads the government.

      • That is strange—–The Cats we all know would never play with words like this guy.

    • Funny. When I'm hiring somebody for a job, I want to know a little something about their education and experience and what they think they got out of it.

    • You have tough standards at your rotary club

  65. Truly-really or just truly?

  66. All I pointed out what how many times Iggy refers to himself in his own add. And this drives some of you to these kinds of non-responses, does it? Interesting.

  67. I just know it would be more honourable and democratic vomit than harper could ever dream of.

  68. For me, it's always been the kittens. What kind of man eats kittens for breakfast!?!

  69. Or it just confirms the Conservatives' already established narrative, that it's all about Iggy.

  70. Yes…they are trying to own Iggy's time away. It's certainly the best strategy to counter act a narrative that is critical of Iggy's time away.

  71. Emily never answers questions. She merely ignores the issues. Emily is not very politically astute.

    And you have no understanding of history if you think the 2008 coalition signing has nothing to do with the future.

    Nowhere has it been written in our Canadian constitution that a separatist party should be given the balance of power over our Canadian federation, but in 2008 two federal parties decided to do just that: to give the balance of power over to a separatist party. Ignatieff did sign such an agreement and only refuted it once the Canadian public rose up in protest.

    Next time he may try again. But if the BQ has been given the balance of power once, there will be no going back. Once the BQ has tasted such power, they will then proceed to elect not 50 members but a maximum of 75 within future elections, thereby making a federal party majority all but impossible for the future.

    Open your eyes, and try to answer the real questions not being addressed in this country because Ignatieff is too busy explaining to us what he had seen taking place in other countries.

  72. Like I said, Iggy could go in front of the camera and throw up, and you'd all love it, while bashing Harper while you're at it. Fine. It's a great ad. Iggy loves talking about himself. Good luck.

  73. Oh, he says at least 12 words in his defence: "I" 12 times. lol

  74. I would have guessed that you don't actually want to know anything more before you decide to vote.

  75. Yeah and that's just on the days he's not really hungry; otherwise it's entire litters plus their mother cats.

    Do you think he uses catsup?

  76. I agree that Iggy's narcissistic. But, put yourself in the Liberal war room. How else would you go about trying to counter the 'it's all about Michael' campaign?

  77. If Harper vomited he would blame it on someone else. That's the way he rolls.

  78. A better question would be why do you invent positions of others and then question them?

    Why do you totally ignore what people really say and then claim victimhood over something they are NOT saying?

    That was a real nice try though Dennis.

  79. "This is the kind of agenda that justifies our fourth $300 million election in seven years, is it?"

    If Stephen Harper was serious about avoid an election, he would laid out have put his cost-saving measures in his budget projections rather than save it as an election plank. If he was actually honest with us, he might actually get a his majority.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/budg

  80. I am sorry. I have trouble responding to you because I do not know what kind of ludicrous fantasy you are going to base your next question on.

    It would be really nice if you actually stuck to what people are saying instead of making other stuff up, but I cannot help you there. Clearly you think that you can ignore my response, falsely identify it as a "non-response" and then you do not have to actually address mypoint. I am not sure if that is because you are not smart enough to do so or it if it because you actually believe what you are saying.

    I don't really care which one it is. I am simply not going to be drawn into your weird little world.

  81. Or you just confirm the already negative narrative. Simply responding to something isn't a good thing.

  82. Keep yawning, Canada!

  83. Dennis, I truly admire that you use your real name online, and even provide links to your professional life. Given that, why would make statements (about the use of I as unprofessional) that contradict your own web presence?

  84. Perhaps the CPC needs to respond in kind by releasing ads about Stephen Harper's past – you know, the past where he states that the NDP proves that the devil is alive and well and living on Planet Earth, the past where he tells Americans that they know more about Canada than Canadians do, the past where he tells members of the NCC that Canada could be made up of a whole set of federal governments for all he cared.

    Or, perhaps they'd rather not embrace the past life of their leader. Perhaps they'd just as soon Canadians forgot all about who Mr. Harper really is.

  85. Perhaps the CPC needs to respond in kind by releasing ads about Stephen Harper's past – you know, the past where he states that the NDP proves that the devil is alive and well and living on Planet Earth, the past where he tells Americans that they know more about Canada than Canadians do, the past where he tells members of the NCC that Canada could be made up of a whole set of federal governments for all he cared.

    Or, perhaps they'd rather not embrace the past life of their leader. Perhaps they'd just as soon Canadians forgot all about who Mr. Harper really is.

    • go to wikipedia and type in Stephan Harper. It's all there for everyone to see. Scary, scary stuff. While you're at it check out Michael and jack as well.

    • and the past where he speaks on Parliament Hill, as leader of the opposition, where he says if he's elected he'll make sure marriage is defined as between one man and one woman. he's a horrible man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFbPz6hMa1c

  86. Well, first, Iggy didn't respond to the established Tory narrative. They thought the media did enough to discredit the attack ads, and they didn't. That in and of itself was a conceit that they have paid for dearly.

    However, since that's in the past, I wouldn't keep playing on Tory turf. Maybe they think they can win back soft NDP female voters. I don't know. But they also risk cementing general sentiment about the guy.

    But, if you have to directly counter the Tory narrative, then why not do it with a softer touch? Have Iggy talk in the background. Show the clips of U of T and Canada in his youth. Show international shots with Iggy saying how Canada was always in his heart, and how others appreciated him being Canadian overseas. That was a missed opportunity, at least in the teacher ad. Then show Iggy now within a Liberal team, bringing that international experience to Canada within a broader context.

    But I still don't think that's necessary. Use the debates and the daily events to prove Iggy isn't arrogant. Use the ads to focus on a better message than yourself. Just my two cents, since you asked.

  87. Don't worry, Emily: once the BQ will hold the balance of power, it will be the province of Quebec dictating to the rest of the provinces how the "Canadian" Health Act should be enforced.

    All the provinces are looking forward to such negotiations. They can't wait!

  88. No, but you are.

    Paranoia is never pretty.

  89. Why? Are you saying the opposition would have supported him even if he did? I read the rhetoric here from the opposition supporters. We're having this election because they love hating him.

  90. Coming from someone who bashes Harper even when the topic is Iggy. Do people like you have no shame? Do Canadians have to endure this election to make you feel good about your hatred of Harper?

  91. And amazingly enough, it's neither illegal nor immoral to do so.

    Or are you back into the Bolshie stuff again?

  92. Dennis specializes in strawman arguments.

  93. The worm is turning.
    Look our Harper!

  94. The worm is turning.
    Look our Harper!

    • What a terrible thing to call iffy your leader!

    • From an ancient proverb, "the worm will turn when trodden upon" meaning the meekest among us will fight back when provoked.
      No name calling, apologies if you took it that way, especially with my typo…
      should be: Look out Harper!
      ;-)

  95. Emily has been elected to govt office twice..

    Now stop lying.

  96. Your pants are on fire, dear.

  97. No, just the usual Con patter….nothing about the actual election…..that's Blue.

  98. Really. What arguments have I ignored? I came on here to talk about the ad. Nola/Emily decided to attack me personally. You're great with that. This is the Liberal agenda nowadays, is it? This is why we needed this election? To make you bashers feel good about yourselves finally? Well, if you keep this up, you're not going to feel great for that much longer. Believe me.

  99. Torie voters never mind these childish left wing blogs that disagree with any thing that is blue including the sunny days ahead under Torie Blue. skies. Just let the kids and the left wing talking heads and journalists play until May 2 .then we the silent majority will shut then down for the next four years

  100. What is this Francine – sweating with the oldies? Between che, t Dennis and you I'm calling the Cons rattled.

  101. Torie voters never mind these childish left wing blogs that disagree with any thing that is blue including the sunny days ahead under Torie Blue. skies. Just let the kids and the left wing talking heads and journalists play until May 2 .then we the silent majority will shut then down for the next four years

    • It's Tory not torie…other than that I can't understand a word you are saying?!

  102. What a terrible thing to call iffy your leader!

  103. left/right you all act like there is actually a decent answer to the question who can run this country. Im not sure there is an answer currently in Ottawa

    LIB or PC your acting like anyone under the current situation can do a good job?? Fix the system

  104. left/right you all act like there is actually a decent answer to the question who can run this country. Im not sure there is an answer currently in Ottawa

    LIB or PC your acting like anyone under the current situation can do a good job?? Fix the system

  105. I addressed that specific point in a reply to Nola/Emily. I'm not a big advocate of using a third person narrative when it's obvious you're talking about yourself. I just find it to be a curious choice for a politician who's been accused by opponents, and with some success, of always making it about himself.

  106. This comment was deleted.

    • I'm going to check your site out because I like the acronym CRUSH. And all the hearts you used to invite us.

  107. I'm guessing that if Iggy weren't involved in politics, you'd find these spots thoroughly uncontroversial. He's just telling stories.

    The impression that I get is that Iggy probably has a lot more real experience than Harper. I respect a guy who has been in warzones before more than a guy who's never left the country before becoming PM.

  108. These ads seem to follow a pattern evident recently in the Liberal Party.
    They are the Party of the past—it is all about nostalgia—-from their leader who was supposed to be the new Trudeau, their obsession with the fact they called themselves the natural governing party, Their economic platform that Coyne called the Back to the Sevenyies Platform, and now these ads that celebrate the wanderings of their leader 20-30 years ago.

    Something else to ponder—Which Party is living in the past and which Party is preparing for the future—-Hey Harper has even promised tax breaks and new spending 3 and 4 years down the road.

  109. Actually, if Iggy wasn't running to be our prime minister, I'd wonder who this guy is who's always talking about himself so much. lol

    And how can Iggy be more experienced than Harper when it's the latter who has run a country for over five challenging years? It takes some leap of logic to suggest it's Iggy who's more qualified to be prime minister – some leap of logic alright.

  110. That sounds great except for one thing. Iggy's version goes something like this. I was born rich. My daddy paid for everything for me and sent me to nice schools, where I studied hard and sucked up to all the right people and eventually i just stayed in school. Never lived in the real world with real people. I have not got a clue what it means to flip burgers……….except for the ones I flip for all your hard working Canadian on the BBQ rounds trying to convince you I am a patriot who understands your plight.
    You sure know your facts.

  111. When anyone says that Harper has a "real democratic" mind set, is an insult to any Canadian who has half a brain.

    1: Harper's Conservative government is the first in history to be held in contempt of Parliament.

    2: Ask Joanna MacDonald (21-year-old environmental science student), Awish Aslam (political-science) etc… about democratic mindsets. There source of apprehension; Facebook! Then have the RCMP do the dirty work of telling them to buggar off.

    As you know, the list gets longer…

    If you would stick to the facts and relevant information, maybe you wouldn't look so ( fill in the blank).

    Also, there's a free dictionary / spell-check in most browsers, use it!

  112. These are great ads. Instead of running from his past experience, as the Conservatives have long wanted him to do, Ignatieff and the Liberals are doing the right thing by running towards it, explaining it and embracing it and hoping the public will forgive him.

    I'd love to see Harper's version. "I studied economics, but like many Canadians, I did not work in my chosen field. I started in the private sector at the bottom – like most hard working Canadians, in a mail room job. Then, I started working for the grass roots in politics, working to effect change in the corrupt Liberal environment. Eventually, I became an MP but I set my sites even higher. Now, after years of hard work, I am honoured to be your Prime Minister."

  113. I'm going to check your site out because I like the acronym CRUSH. And all the hearts you used to invite us.

  114. These are great ads. Instead of running from his past experience, as the Conservatives have long wanted him to do, Ignatieff and the Liberals are doing the right thing by running towards it, explaining it and embracing it and hoping the public will forgive him.

    I'd love to see Harper's version. "I studied economics, but like many Canadians, I did not work in my chosen field. I started in the private sector at the bottom – like most hard working Canadians, in a mail room job. Then, I started working for the grass roots in politics, working to effect change in the corrupt Liberal environment. Eventually, I became an MP but I set my sites even higher. Now, after years of hard work, I am honoured to be your Prime Minister."

    • I completely agree. I honestly would like to see how Harper would define himself – but he acts like he is scared to have Canadians actually know him and his real values.

      When Ignatieff discusses education, democracy, human rights,… you can see the passion. Harper gets passionate about reckless coalitions, and some claim he is passionate in his hatred for Liberals, but there must be some positive things he is passionate about. Or maybe not.

  115. For someone who isn't blinded by partisanship, those clips tell one about what it means to inspire and teach others about human rights or what it means to be unexpectedly saved from a dangerous situation by a friendly soldier. Most people who aren't blinded by partisanship are moved by stories of compassion, courage, passion and commitment, whether it is the Canadian soldier, the bright students, or Ignatieff.

    For blind partisans, counting I's trumps all that because they actually get what they need to know from attack ads.

  116. It appears that the worst the Conservatives can find to say about Dr. Ignatieff is that he is a man-of-the-world and his French is better than theirs.

  117. It appears that the worst the Conservatives can find to say about Dr. Ignatieff is that he is a man-of-the-world and his French is better than theirs.

    • And that he built his career slandering Canada internationally.

      • That would be Harper that slanders Canadians internationally.

  118. "the election is about the leader of the country"

    That's pretty impressive considering no one can do that. These people are running to be the one who leads the government.

  119. I completely agree. I honestly would like to see how Harper would define himself – but he acts like he is scared to have Canadians actually know him and his real values.

    When Ignatieff discusses education, democracy, human rights,… you can see the passion. Harper gets passionate about reckless coalitions, and some claim he is passionate in his hatred for Liberals, but there must be some positive things he is passionate about. Or maybe not.

  120. I would like a Family value add where Iggy's first wife explains how she got shafted.

  121. I would like a Family value add where Iggy's first wife explains how she got shafted.

    • Would you now? Dude, that is not a place you want to sally forth. It's a can of worms that, once opened, would expose a fat, white flank on the CPC leader that would quickly become fodder for said worms. So best just put it away, fella.

      • Haven't heard a lot from Norm Spector recently …..

        • The guy who wrote that Dion should leave his wife at home during the last campaign?

          I am sad not to hear from Norm Spector cause I am sure he would recommend the same approach to Mr. Harper.

    • Since you brought it up. Isn't Harper separated from his wife? But he still takes her campaigning. Don't go there, it wont be pretty!

      • In pictures and video from the campaign Laureen seems VERY unhappy….cranky even…of course this is just an observation.

    • yes, let's bring wives into this campaign, please

  122. That is strange—–The Cats we all know would never play with words like this guy.

  123. I don't agree. I think the values these clips speak to – human rights, education as using your knowledge and experience to inspire others, the smarts of Canadian soldiers in protecting others — these values are timeless.

    I was struck listening to one of Ignatieff's stump speeches and the 45 minutes of so of questions and answers which followed, about how much of it focussed on values. In the end, politicians will make promises, some of which they will be unable to keep even if they really want to because circumstances will change or prevent that, but if a politician lets you get to know who they really are and what values inspire their passion and commitment, to me, that is what really matters.

    Perhaps values seem out of date to you in this age where all that seems to matter is political gamesmanship and soundbites, but not everyone feels that way.

  124. We could play hypotheticals all day, but regardless the opposition parties (other than perhaps the liberals) made it clear what they wanted to see in the conservative budget to gain their support. Harper has never shown a bipartisan streak in his entire time as Prime Minister.

  125. And that he built his career slandering Canada internationally.

  126. What's going to happen to our rights when, he grabs the rest of our guns, implements the feel good, do nothing carbon tax, imports even more uneducated refugees to inflate our welfare roles, forces even more PC and Milticulti nonsense down our throats and spends us into a black socialist hole.

    No thanks Iggy, take it somewhere else.

    That strategy is isn't working out for your buddy Obama, and it won't work here.

  127. What's going to happen to our rights when, he grabs the rest of our guns, implements the feel good, do nothing carbon tax, imports even more uneducated refugees to inflate our welfare roles, forces even more PC and Milticulti nonsense down our throats and spends us into a black socialist hole.

    No thanks Iggy, take it somewhere else.

    That strategy is isn't working out for your buddy Obama, and it won't work here.

    • Andre, I have one response for you: Ewwwww!

      oh, I lied. Unless you are a First Nation you too came from somewhere else which would make you a hypocrite.

      Signed,
      Mimi (5th generation Canadian)

    • Why do you need a guns? Guns are for the weak of mind and body.
      Learn some martial arts it will give you the confidence you currently lack.

  128. Then why is it that that post of yours could have been written by Iggy's PR specialist? lol Who are you trying to kid? All I said is that he used the word "I' at least 12 times in that ad. At least you're not disputing that!

  129. They learned it from their the Dems down south. Liberals are only tollerant when you agree, otherwise STFU.

  130. Like carbon dioxide, and guns??

  131. Would you now? Dude, that is not a place you want to sally forth. It's a can of worms that, once opened, would expose a fat, white flank on the CPC leader that would quickly become fodder for said worms. So best just put it away, fella.

  132. Ignatieff's vomit would at least be rational, well-thought and probably full of intelligent, cosmopolitan European food. Harper's throw-up would be petulant, take-out detritous.

    Happy now, Dennis?

  133. Then why has his minority government been the longest serving in Canadian history? Like I said, give it a rest.

  134. Haha, it wasn't by being bipartisan!

  135. Do you even know what the term means? He always had support from other parties to support his agenda. And he didn't need an unelected coalition to do it, either!

  136. From an ancient proverb, "the worm will turn when trodden upon" meaning the meekest among us will fight back when provoked.
    No name calling, apologies if you took it that way, especially with my typo…
    should be: Look out Harper!
    ;-)

  137. Haven't heard a lot from Norm Spector recently …..

  138. Dennis_F. Did you just say ' Why do you have to constantly engage in these personal smear attacks'? Have you seen Harpers ads lately?

  139. Funny. When I'm hiring somebody for a job, I want to know a little something about their education and experience and what they think they got out of it.

  140. Wow, you get touchy when you're losing the debate aren't you? This fantastic video by UBC should cheer you up!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpp3quce1Vo

    And yes I do know what bipartisan means, I would argue that weak leadership and vision by the opposition is generally what kept the conservatives ahead. Also I would rethink your last statement on coalitions too, I'm pretty sure in David Cameron and Nick Clegg never ran as a coalition in the UK last year, but formed a coalition government nonetheless. Last I checked, the UK has a pretty similar democratic system to ours!

  141. go to wikipedia and type in Stephan Harper. It's all there for everyone to see. Scary, scary stuff. While you're at it check out Michael and jack as well.

  142. That would be Harper that slanders Canadians internationally.

  143. Had Obama lived in Australia and Britain for 15 years prior to entering into presidential elections, would the citizens of the United States have voted him in as President?

  144. Had Obama lived in Australia and Britain for 15 years prior to entering into presidential elections, would the citizens of the United States have voted him in as President?

    • Despite your glorious leader's best efforts, we are not quite yet Americans, okay? Some of us don't believe we have to do everthing like the Americans. Sheesh.

      • Yes, within Canada it is difficult to know when it is acceptable to talk about Obama and when not. Sometimes it's ok to talk about him and support him, while other times it's not so good to do that. I apologize for having picked the wrong example.

        Let me rephrase:

        If Chretien had lived in the United States and Britain for 30 years prior to entering into Canadian leadership elections, would the Canadian Libeal Party have chosen him as party leader?

        See, we will never know if the Canadian Liberal party membership would have chosen Chretien under such circumstances because we all know, of course, that Chretien did not live abroad for 30 years prior to being selected Canadian Liberal leader, for back then they still had party leadership conventions.

        That sounds much better, doesn't it?

        • Sir John A Macdonald, our first prime minister, was born in Glasgow. So the precedent's not all that terrible.

        • Why not!!! We live in the jet age. The flight between Toronto and London (England, that is) takes about 6 hours – about the same time it will take to fly between Ottawa and Vancouver.

          Whenever I hear this kind of arguments from Conservatives I think of polls a few years back showing that a significant number of citizens believed Bill Clinton was President of Canada. Living in Canada in of itself is no guarantee that you know anything about the country. Harper, for one, claims to never watch Canadian news – the perfect type to think that Bill Clinton is the President of Canada. Or that Canada is a second-rate failed experiment. Or that we would envision our country with not one but two or ten national capitals.

    • Well, most of them think he's from Kenya. They wouldn't have elected a lobbyist who hates the country though.

  145. Since you brought it up. Isn't Harper separated from his wife? But he still takes her campaigning. Don't go there, it wont be pretty!

  146. because your out of your league Dennis. the reason that resumes don't have "I" is because they are written in point form, thereby alleviating the need for pronouns. this is compounded by the fact that the pronoun is obvious and therefore unnecessary…if a person were to try to talk like this it sounds utterly ridiculous.

    if you'd like to critique the liberal platform go right ahead, but do it on a valid basis. your criticism is ridiculous, defensive and obnoxious, arising out of the distrust for a leader who is educated, intelligent and worldly. your response? count the number of personal pronouns he uses. i'm be willing to bet that he has a better grasp of standard use of English than you do.

    you want to criticise, go right ahead, just don't be so childish. find an issue and go to it. small minds like to talk about people, bigger ones talk about the issues.

  147. Dennis, what alternative did the CONs have really? They HAD to make it all about Iggy. I will not start slinging mud, but as we have all heard, Harper does not have a lot in the way of impressive stories of his coming of age. He just doesn't.

    If Canadians were to look at Iggy and Harper side by side, where they've worked, what they've accomplished before politics, what they studied and what these say about the individuals…it would be the CONs worst nightmare. They had to establish these frightening narratives of elitism, conspiratorial nationalism and,…the best one, an egomaniac seeking the PM's office.

    and sadly, it has permeated so many brains out there, the ones that are subject to fear mongering and simplistic imagery like,…man sitting at a large burnished wooden desk, hand to temple, panelled room…THIS IS AN INTELLIGENT MAN!! hahahaah

  148. and the past where he speaks on Parliament Hill, as leader of the opposition, where he says if he's elected he'll make sure marriage is defined as between one man and one woman. he's a horrible man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFbPz6hMa1c

  149. Andre, I have one response for you: Ewwwww!

    oh, I lied. Unless you are a First Nation you too came from somewhere else which would make you a hypocrite.

    Signed,
    Mimi (5th generation Canadian)

  150. Despite your glorious leader's best efforts, we are not quite yet Americans, okay? Some of us don't believe we have to do everthing like the Americans. Sheesh.

  151. Yes, within Canada it is difficult to know when it is acceptable to talk about Obama and when not. Sometimes it's ok to talk about him and support him, while other times it's not so good to do that. I apologize for having picked the wrong example.

    Let me rephrase:

    If Chretien had lived in the United States and Britain for 30 years prior to entering into Canadian leadership elections, would the Canadian Libeal Party have chosen him as party leader?

    See, we will never know if the Canadian Liberal party membership would have chosen Chretien under such circumstances because we all know, of course, that Chretien did not live abroad for 30 years prior to being selected Canadian Liberal leader, for back then they still had party leadership conventions.

    That sounds much better, doesn't it?

  152. The ads are brilliant. Just brilliant. Glad to see them fighting the conservative line. I for one will be happy to have a brilliant scholar, journalist, diplomat for prime minister. Sure beats having a paranoid, mean man in the chair.

  153. The ads are brilliant. Just brilliant. Glad to see them fighting the conservative line. I for one will be happy to have a brilliant scholar, journalist, diplomat for prime minister. Sure beats having a paranoid, mean man in the chair.

  154. catherine: Here is the problem with values.

    When you hear someone go on and on about their values, there is a good chance you are not getting the real story about them. You are getting what they want you to hear—-it is usually not genuine.
    When I make a judgement about someone/s character, I don/t listen to what they say as much as watch what they do especially with family and friends.

    So when you hear a politician go on about values, that is probably a good time to bring out the Bull Meter.

  155. Should have a Seinfeld theme – The Election about nothing. (except Iggy)

  156. Should have a Seinfeld theme – The Election about nothing. (except Iggy)

    • about Iggy and Zsa Zsa getting into a new house on Sussex Drive

      • Classy.

        Actually it could just be about Steve and Laureen moving back into Stornaway. Or Harper leaving Ottawa and collecting a pension. Both of which are things he would never do if actually true to his Reform Party roots, btw.

        Stephen Harper's past – paid lobbyist to politician. Has he ever held a respectable job?

  157. Sir John A Macdonald, our first prime minister, was born in Glasgow. So the precedent's not all that terrible.

  158. You have tough standards at your rotary club

  159. yes, let's bring wives into this campaign, please

  160. Well, most of them think he's from Kenya. They wouldn't have elected a lobbyist who hates the country though.

  161. It is not going on about their values, it is talking about values and things that matter. I learn a lot about a person listening to them speak about values, but it certainly isn't due to them saying "I value this" or "I am that".

    As to bull, it is surprising how gullible some people can be, believing images only created in ads.

  162. Why do you need a guns? Guns are for the weak of mind and body.
    Learn some martial arts it will give you the confidence you currently lack.

  163. about Iggy and Zsa Zsa getting into a new house on Sussex Drive

  164. "Well, if you keep this up, you're not going to feel great for that much longer. Believe me. "

    That's sounding a bit ominous Dennis, you may want to affirm that you did not intend that as a threat to anyone.

  165. I don't hate the man, since I don't know the man. But I sure do hate the politician. Mind you, I think he's very good at what he does. But what he does is divide my country and my countrymen. We are a diverse country and it has been prudent, while acknowleging our diversity, to focus on that which unites us as a country when speaking of generalities. Harper's idea is to pit the West against the East, the rich against the poor, the English against the French, the educated against the ignorant, and the right against the left–all the time! I wonder why anyone would want to lead a country that is so fractured in so many ways, and especially to take pride in the fact that this is your legacy.

  166. I thought it was pretty clear what I meant, which was that this nonsense from the opposition and its supporters will only lead to a tragically disappointing loss, and probably four more years of Harper. Comprendez?

  167. You may have thought so, but a casual observer might legitimately think otherwise.

    As you are in the writing profession, surely you know that.

  168. PS you may want to brush up on your French verb conjugation.

    Comprenez?

  169. But he hasn't sent out Christmas cards of himself admiring photographs of himself yet…

    Or produce a calendar of Himself with pictures of Himself for every month except May, which is, of course, reserved for the Queen.

    And thank goodness, he doesn't try to get applauds for second-rate singing and second-rate piano playing.

  170. The guy who wrote that Dion should leave his wife at home during the last campaign?

    I am sad not to hear from Norm Spector cause I am sure he would recommend the same approach to Mr. Harper.

  171. Why not!!! We live in the jet age. The flight between Toronto and London (England, that is) takes about 6 hours – about the same time it will take to fly between Ottawa and Vancouver.

    Whenever I hear this kind of arguments from Conservatives I think of polls a few years back showing that a significant number of citizens believed Bill Clinton was President of Canada. Living in Canada in of itself is no guarantee that you know anything about the country. Harper, for one, claims to never watch Canadian news – the perfect type to think that Bill Clinton is the President of Canada. Or that Canada is a second-rate failed experiment. Or that we would envision our country with not one but two or ten national capitals.

  172. Harper constantly harps about Ignatieff being away from Canada. This ad shows the experiences Ignatieff has had, which give him a perspective that will serve him well as PM. Unlike Harper's narrow perspective from his "Alliance" past.

  173. It's Tory not torie…other than that I can't understand a word you are saying?!

  174. Hey Andre What's going to happen to our rights if Harper gets a majority. We've already seen the knock on the door in the middle of the night to dismiss Linda Keen for telling the truth about Chalk River, and the forcing out of Pat Strogran for daring to speak up for veterans and that was with a minority government. Then during the election campaign while running for the highest office in the land Harper brags about limiting the press to five questions a day and obsessively screens citizens at conservative rallies. Anyone truly concerned about democracy and rights should be very afraid of a Harper Majority.

  175. Hey Andre What's going to happen to our rights if Harper gets a majority. We've already seen the knock on the door in the middle of the night to dismiss Linda Keen for telling the truth about Chalk River, and the forcing out of Pat Strogran for daring to speak up for veterans and that was with a minority government. Then during the election campaign while running for the highest office in the land Harper brags about limiting the press to five questions a day and obsessively screens citizens at conservative rallies. Anyone truly concerned about democracy and rights should be very afraid of a Harper Majority.

  176. In pictures and video from the campaign Laureen seems VERY unhappy….cranky even…of course this is just an observation.

  177. East against West is a complete falsity, or maybe you could ask the liberal member from Alberta? Maybe the Conservative member from Montreal or Newfoundland? Harper didn't start the East West fight, unless you've been out of the country for 26 years… there are reasons each party has success in one region and not another – usually this is credited to party history (see BQ formation, NEP, etc.)
    Educated vs. Ignorant is a pretty loaded accusation, considering scientific polls have never supported that assertion beyond a 5% split. Were it a 30% split that might matter, but the fact remains that LPC/CPC support remains fairly steady across all levels of education.

  178. Thanks for those good reminders, Poker Face. But the fact that he hasn't been as successful as he maybe would like doesn't absolve him from the attempt.

  179. True, absolution wasn't what I was going for there. Just because politician X or Y didn't start the fire doesn't mean he or she hasn't dumped the odd jerry can of fuel on it.

  180. The only contempt for democracy shown during the 2008 coalition drive was Stephen Harper's lying to the public about it not being a democratic option. In a parliamentary democracy, the majority of elected mps from any party/parties have the opportunity to form government if they can convince the GG that they have the best chance of commanding the confidence of the House. That's democracy. Democracy is not when the leader of a party elected with a minority mandate — because it's been made clear to Harper twice now…and soon to be three times…that Canadian's do not want him having a majority — insists that he has the right to govern the way he wants to come hell or high water.

  181. More Ignatiff ads all about Ignatieff…..yawn.

    "Michael Ignatieff must know that the one topic he must avoid at all costs is Michael Ignatieff — yet he can't help himself." http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/04/09/jo

    But he has made some improvements……

    "The self-obsesser. For instance, “I made a very calculated decision that I am the guy I am.” Who really cared? But some intense derision and humiliation can work wonders. Failure is a teacher. He doesn't say stupid stuff like, “Don't mess with me,” anymore. He actually looks more interested in others than in himself. Nor does he talk up his “adventure” in Canadian politics as if it's mainly there to provide material for his next book." http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/a

    Handlers are doing a good job….I counted only 13 "I" in the teacher ad of 1:18 min. vs 12 in the last .31 sec. ad, lol!!!

  182. More Ignatiff ads all about Ignatieff…..yawn.

    "Michael Ignatieff must know that the one topic he must avoid at all costs is Michael Ignatieff — yet he can't help himself." http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/04/09/jo

    But he has made some improvements……

    "The self-obsesser. For instance, “I made a very calculated decision that I am the guy I am.” Who really cared? But some intense derision and humiliation can work wonders. Failure is a teacher. He doesn't say stupid stuff like, “Don't mess with me,” anymore. He actually looks more interested in others than in himself. Nor does he talk up his “adventure” in Canadian politics as if it's mainly there to provide material for his next book." http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/a

    Handlers are doing a good job….I counted only 13 "I" in the teacher ad of 1:18 min. vs 12 in the last .31 sec. ad, lol!!!

  183. Classy.

    Actually it could just be about Steve and Laureen moving back into Stornaway. Or Harper leaving Ottawa and collecting a pension. Both of which are things he would never do if actually true to his Reform Party roots, btw.

    Stephen Harper's past – paid lobbyist to politician. Has he ever held a respectable job?

  184. Duh…Ya

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