Why would any woman vote for Donald Trump? Here’s why.

Female voters determined the last president. This time, they have a choice between a woman—and a man who brags about sexual assault. Simple, right? Not so much.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump signs autographs for fans at a rally at the Fort Worth Convention Center on February 26, 2016 in Fort Worth, Texas. Trump is campaigning in Texas, days ahead of the Super Tuesday primary. (Tom Pennington/Getty Images)

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump signs autographs for fans at a rally at the Fort Worth Convention Center on February 26, 2016 in Fort Worth, Texas.  (Tom Pennington/Getty Images)

During Sunday night’s U.S. presidential debate, Donald Trump attempted to deflect a question about his boast that he sexually assaulted women by pivoting to what he saw as the far greater threat of ISIS. Whether the Republican candidate realized that the terrorist group systemically rapes and enslaves women is unknown, but the moment perfectly encapsulated the topsy-turvy gendered cage match the 2016 election has become. The first woman to run for U.S. president on a major ticket is positioned as a connected Washington insider while an avowed male billionaire with a worldwide brand is the outsider selling himself as the alpha male protector of the disenfranchised—while defending his penis size. During the debate, Trump waved off comments he made in a 2005 Access Hollywood videotape to co-host Billy Bush that his celebrity entitled him to touch women without their consent (“I don’t even wait . . . Grab them by the pussy”) as “locker-room talk.” The dismissal echoed a videotaped apology released a day earlier, that his were just “words,” unlike the actions of his opponent and her husband: “Bill Clinton has actually abused women and Hillary Clinton has bullied, attacked, shamed, and intimidated his victims.”

Trump’s criminal seduction MO, caught on tape, served as a microcosm of the candidate’s talent for “negging,” that infamous pick-up artist methodology—insulting or uttering a backhanded compliment in order to exploit insecurity and gain approval. Trump’s chauvinistic nationalism, isolationism and trade protectionism seduced an audience that believes the liberal project has failed them. His hateful, incendiary remarks about countless groups—Muslims, Mexicans, the disabled, parents of a son who sacrificed his life in combat in Iraq—made no more than a ripple in the Republican Party.

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Then his “women problem” kicked in, beginning with Clinton baiting him at the first debate with past remarks of where he called women “pigs, slobs and dogs” and fat-shamed former Miss Universe Alicia Machado as “Miss Piggy” and “Miss Housekeeper,” a slur against her Latina heritage. The fact that university-educated, white women comprise a key swing demographic explains why an 11-year-old videotape from a B-list entertainment show could do so much damage so swiftly. Female voters determined the 2012 election: Obama won 56 per cent of the female vote compared to 44 per cent for Romney, the largest gender gap in Gallup’s history of polling the electorate. This summer Trump, who leads with white, high school educated men, brought aboard adviser Kellyanne Conway, co-author of What Women Really Want.

A late September Washington Post-ABC News poll found the two candidates virtually tied among white women overall: 46 per cent for Clinton and 44 per cent for Trump. Clinton’s support among college-educated white women was higher (57 per cent to 32 per cent) but Trump led with white women without college degrees (52 per cent to 40 per cent). Clinton improved her lead slightly after the first debate. Hours after the Access Hollywood tape dropped, Clinton tweeted, “Women have the power to stop Trump.”

Yet while the Republican Party has renounced the candidate en masse, Trump’s base remains, a fact that reflects a vast schism in the American political fabric. On issues surrounding women particularly, the candidates are at a profound divide: Clinton promises to defend Roe v. Wade, Trump wants an abortion ban, with a few caveats, and promises to defund Planned Parenthood. A Politico/Morning Consult poll taken after the Access Hollywood tape found 74 per cent of Republican voters stood by Trump; only 12 per cent of men and 13 per cent of women thought he should quit. It also found 10 per cent of Republican voters said the video gave them “a positive feeling.” It was that base, male and female, that Trump was messaging during a debate that saw him threatening to imprison Clinton if elected, talking over the mainstream media moderators, and physically looming over Clinton like a primate in the wild.

Guests wait in line before Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump addresses a rally at the Indiana Theater on May 1, 2016 in Terre Haute, Indiana. Trump is campaigning in Indiana ahead of the state's primary election on May 3. (Charles Ledford/Getty Images)

Guests wait in line before Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump addresses a rally at the Indiana Theater on May 1, 2016 in Terre Haute, Indiana. (Charles Ledford/Getty Images)

Anyone who attends a Donald Trump rally is quickly disabused of the notion that women coexist in some sort of sisterly quilting bee. Yet flashes of girly bubblegum pink punctuate the grey late October drizzle outside the Suburban Collection Showplace in Novi, Mich., a half-hour’s drive from Detroit and 50 minutes from Flint, a city where lead-contaminated water runs from the taps. It’s noon, hours after Trump’s middle-of-the-night vile tweetstorm regarding Machado, and a week before the Access Hollywood video will drop. Hundreds are lined up for doors that open at 2 p.m. A Ford pickup with monster wheels and “TRUMP” grill telegraphs the testosterone level of the mostly male crowd. Slightly less than one-third is female. Sales of gendered Trump merchandise—pale pink army camo hats, fuchsia “Deplorable Lives Matter” T-shirts—is brisk. Leslie Gausden, 52 and Mindi Tietz, 34, are creating a stir in homemade sweatshirts with the Republican logo topped by a swoop of faux Trump hair. Debbie Smith, a stay-at-home mom, is in a custom “Pro-life deplorable mother” T-shirt while her 18-year-old son Connor’s says: “1st time deplorable voter.” Clinton’s “basket of deplorables” comment struck deep, Smith says, especially the “racist” charge. Her four adopted children span ethnicities, she says.

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Her husband’s T-shirt, “Deplorable head of the household,” reveals a mindset that the election is a referendum on masculinity, evident in a “Trump: Finally someone with balls” bumper sticker. (The Clinton camp too employs masculine language as code for power: “Sometimes the man in an arena ain’t a man, it’s a woman,” New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker said recently, introducing Clinton.) The paraphernalia and rhetoric on display reflect a casual dehumanization, even demonization, of Clinton. Posters show her and Barack Obama with horns, portending Trump’s charge at the last debate that she’s “the devil.” His threat to put her in jail is foreshadowed by “Hillary for Prison” T-shirts and bumper stickers. Inside the rally, “Lock her up! Lock her up!” chants are as frequent as “USA! USA! USA!” One bumper sticker reduces Clinton to fast food: “KFC special: 2 fat thighs, 2 small breasts, left wing…” Other merchandise calls for her death: “I wish Hillary had married OJ,” one T-shirt reads. “Trump that bitch” buttons are seen on boys but not on girls.

Women here range widely in age, occupation and education, if not race. They’re friendly and eager to talk, especially about perceived media bias against Trump. As for Clinton, she’s the ultimate symbol of a corrupt, pay-for-play political system. “Liar” and “cannot be trusted” are frequent criticisms. A sense of dissatisfaction percolates. Kate Sturgill, a 38-year-old in a black Trump T-shirt who works in big-box retail, says she volunteered for Bill Clinton before she could vote, and voted for his wife in 2008. Then she became cynical: “There’s nothing cute about Hillary taking money from Saudi Arabia for her foundation. And there’s nothing cute about putting burkas and hijabs on U.S. teenage girls in Saudi Arabia on a civic program in an exercise for diplomacy. Saudi Arabia allows women to be raped by their husbands. Shame on any woman who votes for her.”

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Julia, a financial analyst and one of the few African Americans in the crowd, counts herself an independent: “I have not heard Donald Trump say one thing I do not agree with,” she says. Denise Hooker, who lives in nearby Flat Rock, holds a master’s degree in teaching and likes everything about Trump: “I like his economic policies, I like his anti-political-correctness, I like his support for Christians.”

Jobs and illegal immigration are a big concern. “I’m trying to come here legally,” says Rachel Cahill, a Canadian who just completed university here. “That’s what everybody should be doing.”

Betty Traud, 38, waiting with her 12-year-old daughter, Lily, says Trump has inspired her to vote for the first time. “I never thought it would make any difference. They just want to line their pockets.” Traud, who is unemployed, disliked Trump on The Apprentice. “I thought, ‘What a jerk.’ ” Now she’s sold: “I believe he does love this country.”

Female support for Trump has mobilized in various forms—“Real Women 4 Trump,” “Women Vote Trump” and the glam Trumpettes USA, a “Real Housewives of Bel Air for Trump” which counts Gennifer Flowers, with whom Bill Clinton admitted having an affair, as a founding member. “No one networks better than women,” its website boasts. Then there’s @babesfortrump (“Making America great again one babe at a time”), young women expressing support via selfies in Stars and Stripes bikinis. Trump would approve.

At Novi, Mindi Tietz, who works in IT and defines herself as “a pro-life Catholic,” approves of Trump’s abortion stance. “Hillary thinks it’s okay to murder babies,” she says. “It’s not okay. Everybody talks about, ‘Black lives matter.’ But what about babies’ lives?” Trump’s lack of political experience has an inoculating effect, one that protects him from judgment for past actions or remarks. “You don’t vet a private citizen the same way you do a politician,” says Julia. “He thinks like any normal person does.” Trump’s objectification of women is him just telling it like it is. “Trump says things that other men think,” says Sturgill.

Women judge women by the way they look, says Betty Traud, who blames Miss Universe for gaining weight. Sturgill calls Trump “an equal-opportunity offender,” pointing to his mocking of Marco Rubio as “Little Marco.” Trump hires women at top levels of his organization, she says, one of the first real estate developers to do so.

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton speaks as Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump listens during the second presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis, Sunday, Oct. 9, 2016. (Rick T. Wilking/Pool via AP)

Hillary Clinton speaks as Trump listens during the second presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis, Sunday, Oct. 9, 2016. (Rick T. Wilking/Pool via AP)

Another stock answer is that Trump may be crude and offensive, but he’s authentic. Or it’s all just theatre. He doesn’t really think that way, says Gaudsen. “He wouldn’t be married if he did.”

“Is Trump a little crass?” asks Sue Burnsteinowitz, a small-business owner. “He is. Do I agree with everything he says? No. It’s not a deal-breaker. But her history is.” A repeated line is that Clinton “enabled” her husband’s affairs: “She sat back and let her husband do all of these nasty things with women—rape them—she stood by his side saying, ‘It’s okay,’ ” says Teitz.

Clinton playing the gender card turns them off as well. “It scares me that people say, ‘She’s a woman so I’m going to vote for her,” says Traud. The women here wave off the import of Clinton campaign’s recent ad featuring girls looking in mirrors to a soundtrack of Trump’s past statements, including: “I’d look at her in that fat ugly face of hers,” “a person who is flat-chested is very hard to be a 10,” and an exchange with Howard Stern in which he’s asked, “So you treat women with respect?” Trump answers: “I can’t say that either.”

“I don’t care one iota about him offending women in the past,” says Julia. “I don’t even want Donald Trump focused on it. I just want him to stay on message: economy, jobs, America first.”

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Focusing on Trump’s comments about women is a “distraction,” women here say. Distraction is the same word Trumpettes USA use to dismiss Trump’s remarks on the Access Hollywood video: “The ‘real story’ is not that Donald Trump was a typical guy 11 years ago, but that Hillary Clinton funded both radical Islam and ISIS,” it claimed.

Another recurring theme is distrust of “lamestream media,” and reliance on information from the Internet, a hub of confirmation bias. When statements about Clinton’s net worth of $600 million or Bill Clinton raping women are questioned, there’s a stock response: “It’s on the Internet.” During the nominee’s speech in Novi, the man himself stokes the crowd’s anger, then massages them with praise: “You are the smartest people, the most loyal people,” he shouts. He promises jobs for coal miners, for “American cars made right here in Michigan.”

“Together we are going to save this country,” Trump promises. “We won’t have a second chance. Our country can never recover. We have 39 days. Do not let this opportunity slip away. Get out and vote.”

Until this week, Trump talked about his finesse with women with a braggadocio that was mocked but indulged: “All I can say on women’s issues and women’s health issues, there will be nobody better than Donald Trump,” he told the Morning Joe Show in 2015. By last week’s debate he had dialled it down: “The media is so after me on women . . . Nobody has more respect for women than Donald Trump.”

Ivanka Trump, daughter of Republican Presidential Nominee Donald J. Trump, speaks during the final day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Thursday, July 21, 2016. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)

Ivanka Trump, daughter of Republican Presidential Nominee Donald J. Trump, speaks during the final day of the Republican National Convention. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)

Throughout the campaign Trump’s “woman” surrogate has been his 34-year-old daughter Ivanka, a mother of three and an executive at his company who has also been enlisted to deflect charges he is a “groper.” Ivanka narrates “Motherhood,” a national ad that launched last week: “The most important job any woman can have is being a mother—and it shouldn’t involve taking a pay cut,” she began before discussing the campaign’s promise of “maternity leave” and “child care tax credits.” It’s a narrative that plays into gender norms, a time when men were breadwinners and women were mothers, first and only. But it also references a time when women existed as extensions of their husbands, a fact that allows Trump to hammer Clinton for her husband’s behaviour.

Trump created a gendered fault line in his party months ago: the group Republican Women for Hillary Clinton was born this spring out of concern over Trump’s temperament, lack of experience and divisive effect on the party, says co-founder Meghan Milloy, a 29-year-old who works for a conservative D.C. think tank. The group is launching chapters in 10 battleground states, including Ohio and Florida. Finding female Trump supporters who are on the fence is nearly impossible, Milloy says. “Trump supporters tend to be all in. That said, there are a good number of undecided Republican voters.”

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Some of those voters will likely be swayed by a tape that unveiled a creepy pick-up artist reliant on Tic Tacs who failed in his attempt to “f–k” a married woman, or, as he put it, “I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there,” and refers to actress Arianne Zucker as “it” (“Oh, it looks good”). The tape also lends credence to decades-old reports from women, including Jill Harth’s 1997 lawsuit that accused Trump of sexual assault and “attempted rape.” In May, a New York Times investigation quoted Temple Taggart, a former Miss Utah, who said Trump kissed her twice on the mouth without consent (Trump denied the charge).

Trump is now campaigning as a caricatural alpha male whose debate behaviour was analyzed by chimp anthropologist Jane Goodall. His need for attractive women to affirm his masculinity, to the point he once asked someone if he thought the then 16-year-old Ivanka was “hot,” has been exposed.

A man who once told Howard Stern that he checks out of a relationship when a woman hits 35, used women well over that age as human shields before the second debate at a “news conference.” There, he enlisted Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey, women who accused Bill Clinton of sexual harassment or sexual assault, and Kathy Shelton, who said she was raped by a man Hillary Clinton defended in 1975. Trump’s plan to have the women confront Bill Clinton on national TV was thwarted by debate organizers.

Little surprise then that women close to Trump are bailing. Campaign manager Kellyanne Conway has distanced herself. New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte, who called Trump a “role model” a week earlier, ended her support so her 12-year-old daughter would “someday know that rejecting him for his offensive comments is more important to me than winning any election.” A much-circulated video shows his daughter Tiffany sidestepping a kiss at the debate.

Yet Trump’s shunning by Republican “elite” is more chum for the base who see his divisive effect on the party as positive. “Democrats and Republicans are different wings of the same bird,” says Traud. What the women at the Novi event think of the more recent developments is unknown; none responded to Maclean’s requests for further interviews.

The “Trump effect,” the coarsening of political discourse, is evident. A sign outside a Trump rally in Pennsylvania this weekend read, “Better to grab a pussy than to be one!” Inside, a man with his three children wore a T-shirt saying, “She’s a c–t, vote for Trump,” as the nominee trotted out his now-tired seduction techniques. “I consider myself, in a certain way, to be a blue-collar worker,” he said before reverting to negging. “Don’t believe you’re doing well, because you’re doing lousy,” he said. It was the unvarnished truth for once—for both a nation and his campaign. Still, a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll now has Clinton ahead nine points. That’s down three points from before Trump bragged that he was a sexual predator.


Why would any woman vote for Donald Trump? Here’s why.

  1. Some women vote for Trump because politics in the USA is totally broken. There’s such intense partisanship that some women are willing to vote against their own best interests just out of hatred for the other party. It’s incredibly stupid and sad.

  2. ‘Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people’

  3. I come to realize that if Trump looses in this race to become president, it will effect his ego more, knowing that he is loosing to a women, than he would, from loosing the presidential race itself. Trump has never had this kind of competition in his life, from a women so powerful as Hillary Clinton. To loose to a women, and especially Hillary, will kill Trumps ego. Hillary only has to nudge him a little about his ‘Tribal Locker Room Talk’ in the next debate, and this guy will go postal all over her I bet, especially knowing he is in a free fall. Just a little nudge Hillary, and you could end up with the prize. Keep throwing out the policy.

    • I think the tactic is ‘give a calf enough rope……’ LOL

  4. But, what say you, Kingston, about the well documented Clinton criminality? You can’t have this discussion without bringing up her ongoing email scandal that simply gets worse every day. Over 2000 more emails over the last two days outlining the depths to which the American media has fallen by going all-in for Hillary, or how we are learning more and more the extent to which Clinton, DNC insiders, and media players gamed the DNC’s own system especially to disenfranchise the supporters of Sanders.
    That alone raises questions. If the Clinton camp is willing to abandon any and all sense of ethics to defeat an inter-party rival, what would let you believe she wouldn’t turn an already politicized IRS (Does the name Lois Lerner ring a bell? She too, had an email problem. She too, like several Hillary aides, invoked the 5th Amendment as a bulwark against self-incrimination. News flash: While invoking the 5th Amendment may stymie an investigation, it is also an outright admission that criminal acts have occurred, and that the individual being questioned was complicit.) into a weapon of the state against the perceived enemies of the Democratic Party? Can we honestly believe that a pair of people who have never not been embroiled in legal controversies of varying degrees of seriousness are the kind of people that common Americans want back in the White House?
    And then what are we to make of Hillary’s aiding and abetting of Slick Willy’s penchant for slickin’ his willy with unwilling partners? Her response has always been to attack- and viciously so- any woman who has come forth and accused WJC of any kind of sexual impropriety. How is WJC’s sexual predation of a White House intern, barely more than a teen at the time, less important than trump’s trash talk?
    The Clinton list is almost endless. Whitewater, Hillary’s infamous pork-belly futures, White House interns, Juanita Broaddrick, Bill’s links to Jeffrey Epstein, Benghazi, pay-for-play at the State Department, the Clinton Foundation and Haiti, deleted emails, and on and on. This is just stuff I can come up with from memory. You could fill this page on the legal failings of the Clinton’s alone, let alone the moral and ethical bankruptcy that is embodied in Hillary Clinton. She got kicked off the Watergate hearings team for being unethical, fer cryin’ in the sink!
    Whaddya got on Trump that compares?

    • Hogwash

        • You’ve been told repeatedly that this is all hogwash. No proof of any of it.

          Just your alt-right fantasies

          So, if you like…….big fuckin’ hogwash.

          Clear enough?

          • So, Lois Lerner didn’t invoke the 5th Amendment? Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills didn’t ask for and receive immunity from prosecution in exchange for information on Clinton’s email server? Bryan Pagliano didn’t invoke the 5th Amendment 125 times during his deposition as to the eventual fate of Hillary’s email server AFTER said server was subpoenaed by the FBI? Hillary Clinton didn’t actually manage to earn $100k in cattle futures trades on a $1000 investment back in 1979, when she had never traded livestock futures ever before in her life?
            Gee, I must be mistaken. It must have been another Hillary Rodham Clinton that all those stories were about.

          • Wow Emily. I cannot believe you would use a sexualized slur. Do you even know what you are saying? Try converting your argument to English? Do us all a favour and study the etymology of your tirade.

          • Chip M

            I think you’re talking to the wrong person.LOL

          • No all you Emily. You look up the etymology of “f-in”. I’m sorry to inform you that it’s a sexualized slur. As we learn from the article, ignorance is no excuse.

          • Chip M….both lame and reaching

            Not to mention wrong.

        • Anybody in jail?

          Hillary under arrest?

          ‘Stories’ is the only true word in your post.

    • Taking the 5th is NOT an admission that an offence has taken place or that the person was involved in any criminal activity. It’s a way to ensure that your rights are protected.

      • You’re half right. Under the terms of the 5th Amendment, one cannot be compelled to testify against one’s own self. It is a protection of the individual, and of individual rights and liberty.
        However, invoking one’s 5th Amendment rights is also a clear admission of some level of guilt, in MOST circumstances, if you approach from a purely logical point of view. There are situations where someone could refuse to give an answer without it being an indication that they were involved or complicit in a criminal act.
        However, in the cases of Lois Lerner or Bryan Pagliano, there is no remotely plausible explanation other than criminal acts occurred, any testimony about those acts will tend to incriminate them, and offers of immunity will not protect them from other consequences (such as Lerner losing her several hundred thousand dollar per year pension).

    • It seems we have a choice between a shit sandwich and a turd burger. Or a criminal and someone who is criminally stupid. It astounds me that anyone is waving either flag.

  5. The premise of this article, that choice of candidate should be based primarily on gender is ridiculous.
    And in comparing the pros and cons of Trump versus the pros and cons of Clinton, gender is irrelevant.
    The reason the race is close is because both candidates have major character flaws.
    I think most American voters recognize the difficult choice they face and are basing their decisions not on the candidates themselves, but along party lines. There have been crossovers in both directions due to dissatisfaction with either candidate. The fact that the Democrats are united behind Clinton while the GOP is in disarray over Trump, has as much to do with the way the Democratic-backed media are reporting the campaign. Nevertheless, as the British Brexit vote demonstrated, putting your faith in pre-election poll results can be dangerous.

    • Well put. Case in point- Note the absence of articles on this website regarding the ongoing Wikileaks email dumps. Unless one peruses the Drudge Report daily, one would not be aware of the number of American journalists who have crossed a very serious line by doing behind-the -scenes work for the Democrats, and Clinton, while maintaining a false veneer of impartiality. Despite some of the very serious issues being illuminated by these emails, many American media outlets are choosing to wholly ignore them. The bottom line is that Donald Trump on the worst day is better than Hillary on her best, if ethics are any indication.
      What is worse is the level of collusion apparent with the media. When journalists collude with a political party to suppress valuable information from public disclosure, or when a journalistic community operates collectively to give a clear advantage to a party that it clearly favors (Wouldn’t we love to see how closely some members of the Canadian media community actively colluded with the Libranos?), democracy loses.
      The underlying problem here is that the internet has given the general public the ability to fact-check their media. Too often, we’re finding that they’re actually “adjusting” the story to fit a narrative that is more closely aligned with their own world view. Some call the scribblers on their BS. Some just pull the plug on them. Unfortunately, the media has largely doubled down, pushing even harder on their leftist agenda loud pedal. Just from what I read, I can see that this is clearly a case of too many journalists adopting an advocacy role instead of an informative one. Worse, a great number of them are openly condescending to their readers/viewers when they deign to disagree with the viewpoint being pushed. This is a self-destructive spiral for the media, and it’s not good for society in general. The media’s role is to inform. Any influence that generates must be a product of the public’s interpretation of that information. It is not to inform the public in such a way as to be influenced by how the media presents or edits the information it provides.

      • Be careful now. Strenuous attempts at deflection and diversion can cause long-lasting, painful injuries. Therapists strongly recommend sticking with the point.

    • Yeah, I guess that’s why Nixon, LBJ, Dubya etc were presidents.. Pure as the driven snow.

      • Nixon was threatened with impeachment for attempting to do what the Obama admin has actually done- used the IRS against political foes. Unlike the Clinton’s, there is not a hint of evidence that Nixon took a dime of money improperly, or was influenced in any way by political donors.
        However, further to my point above, I’ll leave this right here:
        Like the American media, the bulk of Canada’s scribblers have a love affair with left-of-center parties, and “progressive” policy. Where this manifests itself most egregiously is the over-reporting of ethical and moral failings of conservatives, and the under-emphasizing of the same on the left (see: Clinton, Hillary). An excellent case in point is Justin Trudeau. How is it that not a single member of the Ottawa press pool has asked, and they’ve had multiple opportunities, Justin to square up his admonitions against the over-use of fossil fuels with his penchant for jetting his family across country strictly for vacations? If global warming is a crisis, why does he not limit his vacations to the Ottawa region? Simple, easy question, yet unasked.
        Look, I’ve rubbed elbows with people who have spent their entire careers as reporters and journalists. Not one was a candidate for “brightest bulb on the tree”. It is the height of hubris for them to consider themselves the arbiters of public opinion, let alone directors of public policy.

        • Again, you’re talking nonsense.

          Mostly you’re trying o wangle it so the oil industry flourishes, and your taxes go down

          Ain’t gonna happen dude

          PS TMZ is a Hollywood gossip magazine

          • And if you look into Hillary’s Top 10 corporate donations, Time Warner (owner of TMZ) is right up there with $800,000+. LOL

          • Chip M….which has nothing to do with the topic

          • Eleanor Lipson

            Don’t blame me if you can’t keep up

          • So you tell us TMZ is a “gossip magazine” in an attempt to discredit Bill’s argument? And then you tell me to stay on topic? Oh my!

            I simply was pointing out to you your very own hypocrisy. TMZ is a major contributor in $$$ to the DNC. And we all know how you love the DNC.

            Why don’t you try to attack the argument instead of the person? Is that something you’re capable of doing?

          • LOL yer cute Chip…just not too bright

            Now move along

        • I hope you don’t have a family, Greenwood. Your wife and children would have to live in constant humiliation and embarrassment.

          • Way to go Bill you’ve got the Commies on this site running in circles trying to defend the HilldaBeast….

          • I doubt Bill has a wife and family….that would cost money

          • JoeFrmEdm…don’t drag your religion into this.

            Stay on topic

          • Any one foolish enough to cross swords with Emilyone will deserve her abusive ad hominem respsonses as well as standard leftist claptrap that she expresses so liberally.
            She apparently feels that if she gets in the last insult, she wins the argument.
            Best to avoid her completely.

          • Eleanor Lipson

            Don’t blame me if you can’t keep up

  6. The fact that this line was buried in the story is telling.

    “I just want him to stay on message: economy, jobs, America first.”

    Hillary and her surrogates have tried to make this economy all about sexism/racism/xenophobia because they know that Hillary is dishonest and will be terrible for the American economy.

    That the race is still a toss up despite the never ending barrage of attacks from CNN/New York Times/Washington Post illustrates how many of Hillary’s most influential supporters are out of touch with main street Americans.

    • Mmmm no, Hillary never mentioned it. She never has in fact.

      And the race is not a toss-up

      • Never mentioned what?

        Emily we get it. Hillary has the bitter shut in Octagenarian female vote locked up. That was never part of Trump’s winning coalition.

        • You rarely make any sense shoop, but that post takes the cake.

    • NYT owned by Carlos Slim, Mexican billionaire, Washington Post owned by Jeff Bezos (Amazon)

      The economy will do fine at the statistical level – Hillary or Donald will want everyone to have jobs: menial, mind-numbing jobs at a subsistence level.

      Hillary is probably the least honest, try to get her talking about the Clinton Foundation’s involvement in building sweatshops in Haiti (pushing a crowd of subsistence farmers off the land in the process)

      Trump is what he is – a bully using the cloak of ‘businessman’ who has a case of narcissism I can only compare to Kim Jong Un – can’t think of anyone else even close. They might even use the same barber.

  7. Emilyone, you are a bigot and a bully. Rude and arrogant. Do you just troll these comment sections as a living? You deny anyone else their opinion. People like you are the scariest of them all.

    • No John, I just disagree with you.

      This bothers you for some reason

      Stop whining.

    • Don’t mind Em, John. She’s just dumber ‘n’ a stick ‘n’ we like to make her head pop off once in a while.
      Meanwhile, I’ll just leave this hear-
      Note the typo way down near the bottom. Friggin’ libs can’t even spell.
      The question for Kingston is simple- How many of your cohorts are so far up the Librano Party’s backside your clothes flutter when Gerald Butts breaks wind?

      • Like I said…..less than 10 years

    • John Elias:
      Squaring off with Emilyone is similar to stepping into a pile of feces. You will only end up befouling yourself. Avoid her.

      • This is why Cons….and Repubs….will disappear within 10 years.

        • Sure, Em. If we kept the room temp equal to your IQ, we could hang meat in here.

          • OMG that’s clever!

            Did you think that up all by yourself?

  8. What this campaign reaffirms is that there are different rules for those who have money. The rule of law is broken, a fundamental pillar of western civilization. Security breaches that would get an ordinary person years in prison (Clinton emails) and conduct that verges on assault, hints at assault and encourages assault (Trump) is used against ordinary men all the time in court to take away their wages, their home, their job and their children. There is only one clear strategy for American voters: on the basis of the last known polls before the election, vote for the opposition. Neither of these candidates should be permitted a majority in Congress.