Why are the Conservatives keeping Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations secret?

Jesse Brown on a deal that could effect a third of global trade


Japanese farmers protest the TPP

NDP MP Don Davies is the Official Opposition trade critic. As such, he’d love to have a look at the latest version of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), a huge trade deal currently being hashed out between Canada and 11 other nations. The problem is, he can’t get his hands on a copy. While any member of U.S. Congress can review the latest TPP draft, in Canada the governing Conservatives are restricting access. It’s just the latest in a series of transparency problems surrounding the TPP, a free-trade deal that would encompass two-fifths of the world economy and a third of all global trade.

Earlier this summer, Conservative Trade Minister Ed Fast hosted a TPP meeting in Vancouver in absolute secrecy. Only when Peruvian media leaked word of it after the fact did Fast own up. Earlier, Fast assured the press that no particular corporate group or interest had any special access to the negotiations. Shortly thereafter, Internet law professor Michael Geist turned up documents showing that Fast’s ministry had created a consultation group including Bombardier and the Canadian Steel Producers Association, both companies signed a confidentiality and non-disclosure agreement giving them access to “certain sensitive information of the Department concerning or related to the TPP negotiations.”

The Opposition has had enough. Today, MP Davies released a demand for transparency from the Conservatives. “The TPP is a sweeping agreement covering issues that affect many areas of Canada’s economy and society – including several areas of policy that have never been subject to trade agreements before,” says Davies in this release.

Which issues is he talking about? Despite the secrecy under which the TPP has been negotiated, a steady trickle of leaks since the process began in 2008 have provided insight into just how sweeping this deal might be. The implications have sparked angry demonstrations across the world, raising the hackles of everyone from Japanese farmers to New Zealand public health advocates.

Perhaps the TPP’s most passionate critics come from the tech world. Internet freedom advocates object to leaked details of the deal’s blanket intellectual property provisions, which they argue would overrule policies that sovereign nations have arrived at democratically, imposing draconian restrictions on Internet content. The Electronic Frontier Foundation calls it the biggest threat to Internet freedom since the defeated ACTA pact:

“The TPP is likely to export some of the worst features of U.S. copyright law…a broad ban on breaking digital locks on devices and creative works (even for legal purposes), a minimum copyright term of the lifetime of the creator plus seventy years (the current international norm is the lifetime plus fifty years), privatization of enforcement for copyright infringement, ruinous statutory damages with no proof of actual harm, and government seizures of computers and equipment involved in alleged infringement. Moreover, the TPP is worse than U.S. copyright rules: it does not export the many balances and exceptions that favour the public interest and act as safety valves in limiting rightsholders’ protection. Adding insult to injury, the TPP’s temporary copies provision will likely create chilling effects on how people and companies behave online and their basic ability to use and create on the Web.”

There may be an argument to be made in favour of the TPP, or parts thereof,  but it’s hard to debate a deal that no one in the public has official access to. As the Conservative government moves with partner nations towards finalizing the deal, it needs to realize that the longer it keep this thing under wraps, the more resistance it will meet.

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Why are the Conservatives keeping Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations secret?

  1. Jesse’s gonna be Maude Barlow when he grows up.
    That’s a good thing.

  2. Harper doesn’t want us to know the truth, until it is too late. Accountability and transparency my @$$.

  3. Because you can’t negotiate ANYthing with 34 million people at the table?

    • Another apologist for Harper folks . Save Canada vote out a Conservative


    • It is the Opposition’s job to review, criticize, make corrective suggestions, etc. They can’t do that if they can’t see the document.
      Plus, if you know anything about the whole TPP process, secrecy is one of its cornerstones. Any democracy worth the name should run screaming from negotiations as shrouded as this.
      Fast’s (and by extension this government’s) actions as described here are frankly scary and potentially treasonous.

      • What r u, a cumminist or sump’n? I suspect you don’t support our troops either.

      • Nope.

        Canada has signed numerous trade deals. They are negotiated by our qualified and experienced trade officials. People we pay to do that job, and get us the best deal possible.

        We in turn, leave them alone and let them get on with it…..we don’t collectively hang over their shoulder and breathe down their neck, and then argue amongst ourselves and with them over every clause….nothing would EVER get accomplished that way.

        Left-wing Americans are saying the same thing….so are the busybodies in every other country involved

        • Canada’s trade deals done by Conservatives get a F

          • It’s being negotiated for the country, not one party. All the provinces are involved ya know, and they aren’t all Cons.

            If we had a Lib or NDP govt right now, everybody would be screaming about the same stuff.

            Canadians always assume that we’re so stupid any ole ‘furriner’ can come along and cheat us senseless.

            Canada was created from trade….and we’ve been a trading nation ever since…..relax.

          • The conservatives claim they are better than the rest , as it turns out they are the bottom of the pile . Martin and Chretien both had surplus, Not one Conservative could manage a balanced budget on their own merits

          • Yes, we all know that. That has nothing to do with the TPP though.

          • It’s being negotiated for select special interest – the rest of us be damned. And I have yet to see anything to suggest the provinces have even been consulted on TPP so far. Got a link?

          • No, that’s just your ideology.

            Dunderdale has been in the news recently on Muskrat Falls and the trade talks.

          • That’s the EU trade talks; completely diferent animal.

          • So look that one up. I’m not doing your homework for you.

          • i.e. you once again don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • You simply have no say in any of this, and that makes you mad….so you try and take it out on me because you know I’m pro-trade.

            You did all this before on the EU trade deal….went on at great length about changing the names of our wines and cheeses…I have no intention of dancing around that mulberry bush again to soothe your feelings.

            You want info….look it up yourself this time. I’m not gonna spoon-feed you.

          • I’m worried that none of us save those Harper deems worthy has any say. I’m not “taking it out on” you; I’m pointing out that you don’t know what you’re talking about. As usual.
            But what do I expect of a Walmart greeter who pretends to be… what was that term you use to refer to yourself again? The fancy one for BS artist?

          • No, you’re just whining. Not to mention lying.


          • Once again, you are just nattering and nagging for something to do.

            Sorry, not interested


          • Emily, act like an adult and do a bit of research into the subject, or continue being a sheep, keep wearing blinders, and allow Harper to whore out our country to the highest bidder.

          • It’s just a trade deal. We have lots of them. Get a grip.

        • Emily, at what point do Canadians get a say (or the right to be informed) about what international obligations their representatives are entering into on their behalf? After the treaty is ratified?

          • That’s not an answer.

          • Well you can read as many trade deals as you want. Somehow I doubt you will though….so when did we learn the details of the FTA? And then NAFTA?

            Have you read either of them yet?

          • So citizens have no right to know about any laws unless they’ve read all the laws cover to cover? I can’t agree with you on that, Emily.

            There were fulsome debates about FTA and NAFTA. Will we get the opportunity to have that debate about TPP, or will we be bound by TPP without allow us as citizens input? There are sweeping and significant changes to IP and consumer rights rumoured to be included in this treaty, not mere haggling over tariffs. If we as citizens are run roughshod over and presented with TPP as a fait accompli with no option but to agree, it will be a shitstorm.

          • It’s a trade deal Andrew, not a body of laws. That would be an omnibus bill….something no one objects to apparently

            There were no ‘debates’ about FTA or NAFTA…..there were a bunch of screamers loaded with rumours….and a memorable t-shirt people wore in front of kids. And that was during an election campaign….one that got Mulroney a second majority.

            And afterwards, it was forgotten about. Same as all our other trade deals.

          • Did you miss the 1988 general election?

          • I said that….and I also said Mulroney got a second majority.

            Much ado about nothing.

          • I disagree. Process is important. I think NAFTA was the right thing to do. But NAFTA being the right thing to do does not mean TPP is the right thing to do. It’s impossible for us to say without knowing what it entails, which is of vital importance to the process.

          • See the Japanese rice farmers in the photo at the top? Well they don’t want TPP because they are protectionists. They’ve each had little rice farms for centuries….it’s a comfy life. They don’t want imported rice coming into Japan. That would be competition for them.

            Consumers however would have cheaper rice….and different kinds of rice, and it would create new jobs. They can even export their own rice.

            But the rice farmers are so keen on protectionism they’ve even claimed that Japanese people are different physically than anyone else on earth…..and that Japanese people can’t eat anybody else’s rice or they’ll get sick. [rolls eyes]

            You can’t negotiate with them….they don’t want to change, period.

            And yet they have to….for the benefit of Japan….which is in a financial mess and has been for years.

            So no….everybody doesn’t get a say.

          • Democracy is not the same thing as consensus. Democracy means the people of Japan have a say in whether they liberalize trade in rice, not Emily or cabals of technocrats and connected special interests.

          • We don’t have direct democracy, and neither does anyone else. We have representative govt. We choose the govt, and they make the decisions. So there’s no sense in carping at me about it.

            We are globalizing, like it or not….and every govt everywhere, no matter what the political party ….is keen on it. It means a higher GDP, it means jobs…and every govt wants that. Any party that got votes by being contrary and opposing it would only delay the benefits…maybe even lose them….for their own countries. Short-term gain for long-term pain….or party before country.

            But either way, it will happen….and the Japanese farmers are SOL.

          • Our representatives are not involved in these negotiations… unless you live in Calgary SW.

          • Con govt under Harper started all these trade negotiations. The Libs have been burned twice on free trade, so it’s doubtful they would have….even though Jean Charest pushed for the EU one.

          • And how is it they know about the contents of TPP and we don’t? At least, you are implying they do…

          • From your link:

            “These ongoing negotiations have drawn criticism and protest from the public, advocacy groups, and elected officials, in part due to the secrecy of the negotiations, the expansive scope of the agreement, and a number of controversial clauses in drafts leaked to the public.” Emphasis added.
            Maybe you should have read a little. The underlined part is the crux of what I and others here have been getting at: We are being deliberately kept in the dark. When even the opposition – elected members of our own government – are not allowed to see the proposed agreement, there’s something fishy going on.
            You’re right – it is unreasonable to expect 34 million people to individually have their say. But as you also pointed out, that’s why we have elected representatives. And even they are not allowed to know what’s up.
            We can hardly trust them to speak for us when they themselves know nothing of what the document contains.

          • Yes, the negotiations have always been secret….everywhere.

            You’ll just have to live with it.

          • Well… no. I don’t have to just live with it. We are still pretending that Canada is a democracy, are we not?

          • No, you could always move elsewhere….otherwise the trade deals will go on without your input.

            However I’m not going to pretend you’re intelligent anymore, or even honest….so as I said…..Ciao.

          • Emily, why don’t you expose your true name and identity and who it is that is paying you to spout Harper’s rhetoric for him? You are so blinkered and single minded that it is impossible to have a conversation with you, Even the links you provide don’t support your position. You really are tiresome to read. However, YOU also will ‘just have to live with it’. Good luck with that.

          • It’s a trade deal, not Armageddon. And there are many more to come..

        • When some businesses are consulted and sworn to secrecy, and no one else is allowed to see the document, then it is not being negotiated in the best interests of the nation but rather in the best interests of specific groups.

          That usually means to the detriment of most.

          Our access to the internet is particularly vulnerable to being reduced, censored and controlled as a result of this agreement. Lots on this at http://openmedia.ca/

          You are an interesting contradiction Emily: on the one hand you often are on here preaching for freedom and equality, and transparency in government; other times, you say we should let government alone to look after our interests [see above], or preach a vision of World Government – which, given the governments in the majority of the world’s nations, is more likely to produce a Big Brother world than the utopia you seem to think we’ll get. TPP certainly seems a significant step toward Big Brother. The incredible secrecy alone suggests as much.
          Which do you want: freedom and equality, or world government? From what I’m seeing, they are likely mutually exclusive.

          • Groups affected by it, yes. If you aren’t, you won’t be consulted.

            I’m not a contradiction, it’s just that you confuse me with other people.

            I am a globalist and always have been….and that means global trade.

            I’m for technocracy….people who know what they’re doing.

            People everywhere are equal no matter what the colour, gender, religion etc and free to live their lives as they choose.

            But I’m not interested in left-wing ‘come the revolution’ stuff.

          • Ah, technocracy… the belief that a select group knows what is best for us all and should decide for us. Kind of the opposite of everyone being equal. But then the way you look down your nose at those you think are of a lower social class belies your equality claims.
            Technocracy is a form of dictatorship; Big Brother. You’re a fool to think any form of totalitarian rule will be benevolent in the long run.
            And what’s with this “left wing” nonsense? You going back to your Reform roots?

          • Technocrats are simply qualified people….engineers, doctors, scientists and the like. People who know what they’re doing.

            People choose their own class Bram, and can change it at any time. Your constant concern over ‘class’ and Big Brother shows your left-wing credentials.

            My ‘roots’ btw are PC, not that idiotic Reform

          • Strange; you’ve said on here several times that you were once a member of the Reform party.
            And whether or not a person can change their class is irrelevant to the fact that you look down on those who choose a different path than you (or do not, for one reason or another, have the abilityto make the change – not everyone is as mobile as you seem to think).
            As for the technocrats: who gets to decide which of them are qualified to rule over us? If we don’t elect them, then it is a form of dictatorship.

          • Yes, I was. I was PC for 30 years before that.

            People can change their class at any time….if they choose not to do so they have no reason to complain to me.

            I have no idea how you confuse doctors and engineers with dictators.

          • If they aren’t elected and they are in charge then they are dictators. Doesn’t really matter what their original career path may have been.

          • Who said they weren’t elected? You did.

          • Well how about that? I committed an Emily! Between your anti-democratic, pro-secrecy stance re the trade negotiations, your seemingly disagreeing with me that we live in a democracy, and “I’m for technocracy….people who know what they’re doing”, I read in something that wasn’t there.

            For a change, it’s me reading in things instead of you. I’m shocked and appalled, and I apologize for stealing your schtick.

          • You’ve also picked up the weaselly political anti-apology apology…..so it stays Ciao.

          • Yes – deliberately so. I was wrong, but as you’ve wronged me so many times without acknowledging same – let alone apologizing – any apology from me would now be insincere. However, unlike you, I do acknowledge when I am wrong.

            Ciao baby! See you at Walmart!

          • I’ve never wronged you….I’ve been factual. You just don’t like it.

          • You have called me racist and sexist on several occasions when my comments suggested neither. You have suggested that I lied about what I do for a living. You have repeatedly taken my words out of context and tried to make it appear I said something other than I said. In short, you have lied about me and attempted character assassination many times.

            So I now take pleasure in returning the favour :-)

          • Sorry, you aren’t

            You are just continuing the whiny lying routine.

          • I’m not what?

          • Good night, Bram.

          • You frequently make stupid remarks and then back yourself up with a wacky reference to Wikipedia.
            I’m surprised Wikipedia doesn’t pay you to cease and desist. You make them look useless.

          • Well, Emily, by your own words you were PC, but that surely does not mean Politically Cognizant, does it? Or Politically Correct? Or Particularly Compassionate? I would like to understand why you think someone who can’t get anything but a minimum wage job (because there are not enough of any other type of jobs) can possibly change their ‘class’, as you put it.

            One of the reasons for these dreadfully low paid jobs is because Canadian and American corporations move operations to countries with lousy pay, lousy working conditions, and a starving population willing to work for pennies an hour. They do this because all they are interested in is amassing more money for themselves. I am not against a company being profitable; I do believe they should pay a reasonable wage to the employees whose labour earns that profit for them.

            I might as well stop, since you, Emily are the full embodiment of this: There are none so blind as those who will not see. There are none so deaf as those who will not hear. And you do not hear or see anything outside your narrowly defined viewpoint.

            BTW, when people say Ciao, we really expect them to leave. So stop saying it if you don’t mean it.

          • ‘Class’ is determined by your social standing. And your social standing is determined by your education.

            If you don’t like minimum wage jobs, get more education and qualify for something better.

            We’ve always had low-paying jobs….it has nothing to do with the US or China.

            And no company is obligated to provide you with a living.

          • And here lies the problem with your thinking. Genetics is the most predominant force which makes us who we are. Social position and background is the next. Both these forces affect us and in both, we have no control. The only way we as a species can solve “human” problems is when we all look after one another. In Canada we understand that some issues are best looked at by competent people. In a democracy, these issues are then brought back to our elected officials for debate and discussion. What is happening is that a few of the “elite” with much to lose or gain will have an impact on what is said and heard, except for Canadians.

          • That post makes no sense at all.

          • I was commenting on your post indicating that “People can choose their own class and can change it at any time”. Such thinking borders on a lack of critical thinking skills. It is a regurgitation of the obvious error in the US constitution. We are in 2013 and any enlightened individual should know that we are all born to certain circumstances, weakness and strengths and privilege or poverty. Further, each is dependent on the other. It therefore is incumbent on our government to make decisions that are not only good for business but also good for Canadians. And we all know that often what is good for business is not necessarily good for the population.

          • Or you could just further your education, and get a better job…thus raiising your class.

          • One of the issues of some Conservatives is the inability to see the world from different eyes. Having come from a family raised by a single mother due to the death of my father, I know and understand what it is like to strive for a better life. Your comment about getting a better education is not only simplistic but downright uninformed. Education takes money and inborn ability not to mention the issues that come from poverty. If you can’t see this then it is of no use to keep the discussion going.

          • Yes, education past high school costs money. Make some.

            You’re not helpless, and this isn’t Somalia.

          • I have. Besides being a professional (retired) I have owned several businesses and a major shareholder of a corporation. The issue you seem to overlook has already been stated in my previous post. Read it.

          • Then stop complaining.

          • If you view these posts as mere complaints then I think you have shown the shallow individual you most likely are. In that regard, I would think my time is wasted on such a human being.

          • You told me about how hard it all was….and couldn’t be done….and that you shouldn’t bother talking to me.

            I agreed that it was hard, and required a backbone and a job.

            Suddenly you’re a rich retired professional….so I said quit complaining then.

            Again you say you shouldn’t be talking to me.

            Please at least stick to that last bit.

          • Emily, you’re a fountain of human kindness. Why don’t you set up a free webinar series, call it “Trolling for Bucks.”

            People might even come to admire you instead of laughing themselves into hysterics when they read one of your 7,569 vapid comments.

          • Emily you poor, sad, pathetic wretch. All around you folks say things you don’t understand.

            I’ll bet if you just went off to Troller”s Rehab they could help you. Intellectual blindness is a curse.

          • Emily, you really have no concept of ‘left-wing’ anything. You are too blind and indoctrinated to even make an effort to understand anything that doesn’t meet your limited view.

          • I think Emily is at least 3 different people, each covering one aspect of the asinine points she (or he, or they) support.

        • This is the stupidest argument I’ve ever heard it’s beyond stupid. ANYBODY who is working for the people on policy NEEDS to be transparent, and if the public does not support it, then they do not sign. If they are negotiating a law that is to be enforced on the people don’t you think the people ought to know about it? That is something people who love human rights call “democracy”. It’s pretty simple, actually. I suppose though you prefer the alternative? Why not move to China?

          • 35M people cannot negotiate a trade deal. 35M people cannot even decide where to go to lunch.

            We have representative govt for a reason.

          • Thank you for stating the obvious. I did not say I was against a representative government. I am against a representative government abusing it’s power, like hiding things behind closed doors.

            The C-30 spying bill was an obnoxious bill Harper’s government was pushing and society pushed back, rightfully so, and the bill was scrapped. Representative government at work. But that was through transparency and the government did well (in the end) handling the issue, plus it was Canadian made, not something drawn up by Hollywood and the drug companies.

            I would much rather a law be written by people I can vote for rather than the American’s ramming it down our throat, and much worse, negotiate it behind closed doors.

            As for the TPP itself, it’s a method to force American style Copyright on society, even though Harper has done (relatively) well himself, like capping fines in contrast to what happens in the US. I definitely didn’t agree with everything in that bill, but I’d pick it a hundred times over to what would be forced on us if the TPP went through.

            Raiding someones house and taking a 9 year old’s laptops for sharing songs (Finland, iirc) with a few people is Hitler-style oppression, rather than embracing the technology and monetizing sharing like numerous people have suggested (See Richard Stallman’s Copyright vs Community proposal, Canadian Songwriters Association proposal and Brazil’s proposal). This is one of the things TPP gets wrong, but instead, they are doing the opposite and forcing ISPs disconnect internet users when their kids share stuff (something we’re all taught to do as we grow up in this world) the parents didn’t even know they shared. It’s pure censorship, and policy makers know it. That is why it’s kept behind closed doors. Even if people support such restrictions on them, they should at least KNOW it’s being discussed!

          • This is neither law nor policy, it’s trade

            And it’s in negotiation

            Which means it’s not settled, it’s not decided yet….and everyone has their wish list out.

            We are also getting ‘leaks’ just like we did with NAFTA and CETA….misleading ones from mid-negotiation

            But unless you are an expert on cheese tariffs or copyright law etc you aren’t at the table. We are seeking to join a trade agreement amongst 12 nations….we don’t get total say as a country either.

          • So essentially what you’re saying is people should not know about agreements being made and being brought to the table that would affect their everyday lives, and they shouldn’t have a say during these negotiations. No regard to transparency or open policy? Great! I hear Tehran has a decent climate. You could assist them in their policy they develop there.

          • So essentially what you’re saying is that you want to read and decide on every one of thousands of documents the govt deals with every day? Great. Run for office.

          • Absolutely! I’d would love to be able to read any law being debated or in effect because I have to potentially, or am required to OBEY them! I shouldn’t have to get into politics to get those “privileges” either, this isn’t China, Emily.

  4. Why have Canadians put up with the Conservatives , wasn’t Mulroney enough that we had to but this other clone in?

  5. Trade agreements are driven by business elites seeking to preserve their personal economic and political interests. The more enlightened among the representatives hope that will intersect with the general public interest, but when it comes down to it, they don’t want anyone else at the table in case their interest conflicts with social or environmental concerns.

    • As far as i can tell most of them seem to believe their personal economic and political interests and those of the public are one and the same; if they’re not they jolly well should be. I don’t find this so strange, but where is our govt?
      Thus we the public get no representation at the table; thus all the secrecy. Lost in all this is the elected GoCs fiduciary duty to speak for all of us at the table, not give sneak peeks and heads up solely to the business community. Heh, but that’s a Harper govt trade mark by now, one we all know and love.

      Edit: Is it possible for an enterprising journalist to somehow obtain a draft copy or whatever is being released to our more trusting cousins in congress? Just a thought.

      • If it were so easy Maude would have a copy by now.
        I’m sure our journalist contingent is interested .. but
        since our current crop would be generally in favour
        their pressing concern is who wins/who loses.

        • To be honest it might be more valuable in the hands of even a skeptical journalist, rather than in Maudes…
          It’s just a farce that the draft is available down there while our so called govt plays coy…’draft? What draft? Oh you mean the one Bombardier has, that one?’

  6. The lack of coverage of this by the MSM is criminal. The lack of transparency by Harper and refusal to allow MP’s to see it and debate it is also criminal …. or should be.

  7. Another job killing “free trade” deal. While sectoral trade deals like the Auto Pact created jobs, these free trade deals export them.

  8. Heil Harper ! It rings like unto the good old days. The rallies, the flags, the goose stepping, seig heiling in the street until you were hoarse and trains running on time. Vote Conservative!!! and we can have it all again. Ze morning has kom when ze vorld ist mein tomorrow belongks to me.

  9. This is typical Conservative behavior. So why is everyone so surprised. It will probably get pushed through before Parliament even sits again.

  10. It is possible that the other parties have asked us to keep it a secret and if we do not then we will get kicked out of the TPP negotiations. That could be the reason for the secrecy. Now the official opposition not being able to see it, that may be going a bit to far.

    • Then why is it being seen in the US?

  11. ” As the Conservative government moves with partner nations towards
    finalizing the deal, it needs to realize that the longer it keep this
    thing under wraps, the more resistance it will meet.”

    Sorry Jesse, but on this as on most important issues the Canadian public pays much more attention to the price of beer and gas — and the antics of celebrities. They’ll only notice after the fact, and then they’ll blame anything but their own indifference.

  12. When an actual deal gets close, it will be tabled in Parliament.

    The CPC doesn’t want to reveal it now because doing so will attract all kinds of distracting claims of looming disaster at the hands of the evil Harper empire – end of the world exaggerations – duty to consult process whining – irrelevant accusations on this or that – claims Harper is trying to destroy this or that special interests – CPC succumbing to corporate masters – you get the picture. Opposition in this country is more about innuendo and contradiction than it is about the claimed altruism they wish you to believe.

    But as I said, they will get a chance to hurl their claims once a deal nears.

    You may argue this process of keeping cards to their chest during negotiations is wrong…fair enough. I understand why they do that, and in the hopes that a deal gets done, i am OK to await the result and judge it at that time.

  13. The freedoms and rights of all people are in jeopardy. What do we the people do when our government no longer protects us? We the educated need to share this information with everyone and anyone who will listen. Vote out the people that are ruining the county and world. CRIMINALS that want to line there pockets while the planet dies and the people starve. REVOLT