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A proof is a proof (II)


 

A collection of reassurances offered in QP over the last two and a half weeks.

November 19
Peter MacKay. Mr. Speaker, it has been stated here a number of times that there has not been a single, solitary proven allegation of abuse involving a transferred Taliban prisoner by Canadian Forces.

Peter MacKay. Clearly the reality is there is no credible evidence, none, zero, to suggest that a Taliban prisoner transferred from Canadian Forces was ever abused.

Peter MacKay. First, there has never been a single, solitary proven allegation of abuse involving a transferred prisoner from Canadian Forces.

November 20
John Baird. I should remind members opposite that there has not been a single, solitary proven allegation involving a transferred Taliban prisoner.

November 23
Peter MacKay. There has never been a single proven allegation of abuse involving a prisoner transferred by the Canadian Forces, not one.

Peter MacKay. There has not been a single proven allegation involving a prisoner transferred from the Canadian Forces.

Peter MacKay. Mr. Speaker, there has not been a single, solitary, proven allegation of a prisoner being abused that was transferred from the Canadian Forces.

Peter MacKay. We are asking for these allegations to be proven. There have been no proven allegations that we can refer to.

Peter MacKay. It is also important to note, again, that not a single, solitary, proven allegation involving a transfer of a Taliban prisoner from the Canadian Forces has been proven.

November 27
John Baird. The reality is there is no credible evidence suggesting that any Canadian transfer of a Taliban terrorist has resulted in any torture.

November 30
John Baird. They all have said the same thing, that no substantiated allegations have ever been proven on any detainee transferred by a Canadian soldier.

December 1
John Baird. What we have seen at the committee is that there has never been a confirmed case of the torture of a transferred Taliban captive.

December 2
John Baird. I should remind the House and the Leader of the Opposition that there have been no proven allegations of abuse of Canadian-transferred prisoners.

Peter MacKay. There has never been a single, solitary proven allegation of abuse of a detainee, a Taliban prisoner, transferred by Canadian Forces.

December 4
John Baird. There has not been a single proven allegation of abuse of a Canadian-transferred prisoner.

Laurie Hawn. All the evidence from their side points to the fact that there has not been a single substantiated allegation of abuse of a Canadian transferred detainee.


 

A proof is a proof (II)

  1. "Peter MacKay. We are asking for these allegations to be proven. There have been no proven allegations that we can refer to."

    You know, as far as I can tell, any allegation needs a trial of some kind or another in order to be proven. I mean, let's say you have a soldier's notebook, for example, detailing a detainee abused so badly the soldier felt he needed to take custody of the detainee back. And let's say those notes were substantiated by the medic that treated said detainee's wounds, and let's say that was confirmed by a general in theatre. In spite of such overwhelming evidence, it hasn't been "proven" until, say for example, a public inquiry proves it.

    So, Peter MacKay, we are asking for these allegations to be proven, too!

  2. He who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual

    Thomas Jefferson

  3. "Not a single…proven allegation..has been proven."

    Nov 23: a particularly brilliant day for the Minister of Defense, who has yet to tell a lie when he's not lying.

  4. It almost seems like Harper is sending Peter MacKay's political career to an early grave.

    • It starts to look that way when you consider the usual modus operandi is to have some other minister not responsible to answer poping up to take quiestions on issues before the House. Or maybe theyll have a designated resignee, too.

    • Considering that he's the one who killed the PC party, it seems only fitting.

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